Should Christians Vote for Trump? | Detailed Breakdown 

Wrong question, should be "Should Christians allow Kamala to win?"

Of course. Compared to Kamala? Absolutely

How complex should the abortion issue be for a Bible believing Christian? It just amazes me how anyone can support anyone who supports ending the life of an innocent child

Absolutely. He is by far the best option against an increasingly Christian-hostile world.

Why is this debatable. Harris is a disaster.

Weights and measures? Should evangelicals vote for child mutilation?

Well considering the other option I don’t see it as a question at all.

Absolutely. God uses even the most unlikely to accomplice his purposes. Vote Trump if you want freedom

Not judging, but I honestly don’t understand how any evangelical could vote for a pro-abortion ticket. That’s a pretty big one. Is Trump my ideal candidate? Of course not. But in my view he is the *lesser of two evils*. But as always, we trust in God, and not government.

I’m so glad and encouraged that these types of conversations are taking place in Christendom. Thank you Todd and Fortis Institute.

Eisenhower, Patton, McDouglas and FDR all had mistresses during WWII. Should we give Japan and the Nazis a do-over?

Abortion is ultimately a heart issue. Trump put the Abortion issue back to the states. Closer to the people. So now the individual states bear the burden of this moral issue. I think that was a smart move.

Brothers and sisters it's not complicated. One party supports absolute immorality while the other uplifts the family, sanctity of marriage and is pro life. I get conservatives can be better on a lot of issues and certainly the pro life aspect but the alternative shouldn't even be considered. If you are sitting it out and not voting for either one, that's up to you. Ultimately God is in control regardless of who is in office.

Pro-life Evangelicals for Harris is an oxymoron. If I learned my pastor was voting for Harris/Walz, I would leave that church immediately, for that would lead me to think that pastor is lacking in sound moral, biblical, and theological reasoning.

Also, voting is not a holy sacrament. Stop elevating it to a higher value than it is worth. No one is "above" voting bc the candidates aren't flawless human beings.

Look at all of the MANY flawed pastors we have seen exposed lately. Should we never go to church? Every single pastor is guilty of something since no one is perfect. Yet we are called to work within a flawed world with flawed people to bring Gods will on earth as it is in heaven. God expects us to do our part. Vote like those children lives depend on it.

Writing in a candidate is no better than not voting.

Yes Christians should vote for Trump!

LOL... That's not a big question. That's an easy question. Inspite of all Trump's faults. Voting for Trump is a no-brainer.

Sadly, tens of millions of evangelicals will not vote. And too many money-driven pastors will be silent.

The church in America has a major problem and it’s not political. It’s the people sitting in the pews that make videos like this necessary.

The common element of all of these discussions is the refusal to actually discuss and consider anything about Trump. As a result the only issues actually discussed are reasons not to vote for Harris. One knows from the first minute that the “weights and measures” will compel a vote for Trump, no matter what he has said or done. This is of course very easy if one ignores them.

There is nothing pious about pacifisity. We have the ability to influence for good with our votes.

I am Canadian and this post is very informative and helpful, thank for addressing this issues. I would also consider their views on Israel.

If God is going to use someone, I hope it's Trump. If not, God is and will always be in control.

Yes, they should and can vote for Trump. And they will vote for Trump.

Let's use God's truth as our standards.

Stunned at the intention to write in by buck. I get it’s not ideal, but Vance saying they intend to defund planned parenthood federally should be a further nail in the coffin.

Todd's teirs can be summed up in the concept of human flourishing. I used to see myself as a single issue voter, but not anymore.

Thank goodness this is posted now!!! ❤ I've been super stoked to hear perspectives!!

Mr. Mr. Mr. Todd Freil! You assisted my journey to the reformed faith! Thank you for all you do.

Trump is the best option to further & promote Christian and Family values. the End!

"Make America Great Again." "America will be great if America is good. If not, her greatness will vanish away like a morning cloud." -Andrew Reed and James Matheson.

Sitting it out isn't a valid option. Scripture says to pray for those in authority so that we can live and worship in peace. That should be our #1 priority. I'm reminded of Bonhoeffer who wrote that "Silence in the face of evil is itself evil. God will not hold us guiltless. Not to speak is to speak. Not to act is to act."

Thanks to you guys in comments for the help with me understanding. God bless, Christ is king

Todd Friel, I’m with you.

Once you realize that DJT is not pro-life but simply and exclusively pro-trump, you can remove this political rhetoric as a watershed issue.

Abraham Lincoln said he was anti-slavery but he never said he would issue a proclamation on freeing the slaves, which is exactly what he did when he was in Office.

As much as I have enjoyed this discussion, the one thing I have not heard any Christian leader or any Christian for that matter say, " What would Jesus do?" If you ask that question and you go to the Bible, you will know what to do.

Congratulations for even bringing up Jan 6. Most Trump supporters have conveniently forgotten that day. Walker's argument first is minimize Trump's involvement and then to excuse it by essentially saying the Democrats do the same sort of thing. But let me ask this. If Benedict Arnold somehow came to be the Republican candidate and he claimed to be on the evangelical side of all the issues, pro-life, anti-gay, etc. would you vote for him? My answer is absolutely no. To vote for Arnold would be to approve of treachery, to approve promise breaking, to approve of deceit. And as Mr. Walker has demonstrated, it changes the moral character of Trump's supporters because they will fold, mutilate and spindle the truth until it exonerates Trump.

Thank you, brothers for doing this. there are a lot of believers who buy into the 'in' thing with the millennial and under crowd that is so influenced by social media and secular trends that says YOU MUST LEAVE POLITICS OUT OF THE CHURCH

Hitler was anti-abortion and anti-homosexual and enjoyed support from 80% of the churches in Germany. Trumps "Christian" position is a smokescreen

What are you suggesting, vote for Kamala?

For those who didn't want to vote for either one of them , I think JD Vance added a lot of value to the ticket. I do believe that that debate moved the needle.

the economy and the border certainly are the main concerns

I feel as though this is a complete no brainer. Trump is the best choice for our people. Especially for our children and the unborn.

Thanks for doing this one guys, very helpful and timely

There are those who think that if they vote for someone who is against Christianity and against allowing freedom of worship and expression, that somehow that will speed up Jesus's return to earth. What Arrogance!!! to think we can change God's timetable - Total heresy. Just going to make life more difficult for everyone who believes in God and Nothing more!!!!

I'm with Todd, though Trump's reneging one the life issue breaks my heart, and I will continue to support and defend life from fertilization to God-ordained natural death. Someone needs to educate Trump on the issue.

Yes. Every single Christian should 100% vote for Trump. I would argue you aren't really a Christian if you vote for any democrat...

Grateful for this conversation. Like Tom Buck, I’m not there where I can in good conscience vote for Trump. I’ve heard some good points such as even in this conversation, but I still cannot vote for him when he has changed his position on abortion. I agree he is the “lesser of two evils”. I agree his cabinet would be better. I agree with many of the reasonings behind why my brothers and sisters in Christ give for the freedom of their conscience to vote for him. I just simply have not heard one that can lead me to feel free to check a box knowing that candidate is ok with the murder of some babies.

Abortion isn't the only issue to consider. I hardly ever hear a panel of white men talk about racism or misogyny. These can be existential issues for women and people of color. Where's the analysis on these issues when it comes to who to vote for?

I say Tawd Freel for President.

Litmus Tests 1.Abortion 2.Marriage 3.Israel 4.Gender

What choice do we have… lesser of two evils. My church thinks this way.

If any person who will murder unborn children for ANY REASON...WE SHOULD NOTE VOTE AT ALL! PERIOD!

Unfortunately this is an actual debate. Many of my family members are “conservative Christians” who will vote for any Democrat because they hate Trump so much. They truly believe the Christian thing to do is to not vote for a mean person.

Is this a serious question? Trump is the only option.

55:24 Todd Friel, thank you. Thank you for these valid and very important facts you have stated.

I am a christian who is genuinely getting more confused about US elections. I am an outsider in terms of my political understanding but I see some kind of defense for Trump in this discussion betraying the fact that we all have our own bias regardless of our efforts to make ourselves look neutral. I do understand that the republican need a different leader but it is not Trump and that has been the failure. So instead of defending Trump, I think it is good to emphasize the principles the republic party is governed by to help Christians understand the consequence of their vote. At the same time, it is also important the failure of republic party, one of which is being led by Trump. When the democratic party has become so lost, it would have been so much easier for Christians if the Republic party has a candidate with a common decency.

Strange to see my ethics professor and Todd Friel in the same discussion 😅

Absolutely Trump! No Questions

Tom Buck you are right not to trust trump.

That woman is just wicked according to the biblical principles.

Is God sovereign? If so, we should trust Him and vote for people who stand for God's truth and follows His word when He tells us to write just laws and to not be partial in our justice.

Fantastic!.

Todd Friel - part Matt Walsh, part Wade. 😁

Why would any Christian sit this election out?

The republican party has lost it's way with trump at the helm. Why didn't you choose Mike Pence. A faithful, honest God fearing man with integrity?

I hear of people who will not vote because both choices are bad. One may say, "I can't vote for that person becuse....." (Maybe something they don't like in a candidate's character.) What about vote against the candidate that would by policy do the most damage? (Choice A&B are both bad, but I will vote for ____ because the other bad choice will do more damage because of their policy choices. To not vote because both choices are bad seems to passively allow or accept the worst choice as okay, although you didn't vote for _____.

As a British people person I say bite for him but stop the hero worship. He is a very fallen narcissist. Voting is not approval of every detail

God is in control but we should not sit back and not vote! Be wise

If one was available, would you vote for a truly Christian candidate and not for Trump or Harris knowing that the Christian candidate may not win?

The closing of the Republican Mind 2024.

Let's be honest, unless you are in a handful of states, your vote doesn't really matter. Being red in a blue state or blue in a red state, tiss only swing states that determine who wins. One of the reasons for moving out of Cali was so my vote actually mattered.

On the Abortion issue I do not believe its a federal issue that the reason Roe Vs Wade was overturned was because it was unconstitutional from the beginning. 5 Supreme Court justices do not get the right to make law and determine so broadly for all 50 states the limits and regulations for Abortion. We always knew if the glorious day came that Roe was thrown out it would be tossed back to the states where it should had been all along. Is that not what we wanted? I am confused about how some now basicly want Trump or whoever to push for federal law on Abortion an all out ban on Abortion for all 50 states exactly what democrats are trying to do only to the other extreme end Abortion up to 9 months and beyond. But are we not playing into democrats hand that we now want to force an all out ban on Abortion for all 50 states? How is that any different than 5 justices unconstitutionally deciding for all 50states Roe. Was not the point we been making for 50something yrs was to overthrow Roe as unconstitutional moving it back to the states? Is that not what we wanted? Trump at first if elected wanted to come up with a common ground Abortion Bill to pass going off the Dobbs decision as federal law that Mike Pence was a fan of the Dobbs decision and believes its the more popular decision among Pro-Life movement. Senator Graham was pushing Trump to federalize the Dobs decision. But that was unpopular among Republicans because there was a split in the senate that atleast half or more of senate Republicans believed it should remain a state issue not a federal issue. So basicly Trump would come no where close to the votes he would need to federalize limits on Abortion as most believed in the senate it should remain a state issue. So it was senate Republicans that got Trump to change his mind to go with the issue should remain at the state level not the federal level because he did not have no where near the votes. Its the same with Harris. She knows she does not have the votes in congress or the senate to pass an extreme Abortion law bill. Trump called her out in the debate that she knows she does not have the votes. She is just playing politics with the issue. That is why the democrats want to pack out the Supreme Court so they can put leftist activist on the Supreme Court that will have the "votes" to AGAIN use the courts to reinstate Roe only a more extreme version of Roe among other leftist issues.

I find it interesting how many Christians get hung up on the moral character of the candidates and in some cases refuse to vote unless the candidates are blameless morally. The kicker is we always have two possible/probable candidates and most of the time neither are as upstanding or morally righteous as all of us agree they should be. Regardless, voting isn't necessarily an affirmation of somebody's character, but more of a simple act of choosing the best option on the table. Currently, both of these candidates have widely reported (although unproven) moral failures, especially with respect to sexuality. Neither of them seem to fit the bill of being "after God's own heart" as the Bible wrote about David. However, when everything is taken into consideration including policies and past history, one of these options appears to be able to provide a better environment for the gospel to be preached than the other and these things seem to indicate the better option to be the former president

Was this live? Keep missing it.

Todd Friel you sounded like you were trying to convince yourself. Will you be able to look yourself in the mirror the morning after you vote for trump?

If these guys were so pro-life, why aren't they protesting against the murder of 16,500 children in Gaza?

There are in my mind 2 ways to think about how leaders are selected. In the past, pre US, leaders would rise and fall on their own Hubris, through their own actions, and the actions of those they bring together. In other words a certain type of human with certain characteristics comes to the forefront The other type, the other way, is when God selects that person for a reason, as he did for Nebuchadnezzar to use Babylon to bring judgment to Judah. With the introduction of popular election (note I didn't say democracy or republic), the general citizenry now has the final say as a conglomerate. In this situation I see 2 things. 1. The world is governed by its passions, and desires and chooses whoever for whatever arbitrary and non christ centered reasons it may do so. 2. The Church which has Christ as its head, is not given divine verbal word from the Almighty on who to vote for. We are asked to speak charitably, to be charitable, loving, as a prerequisite for attaining wisdom, and it is that wisdom that Christians MUST use when they choose whom to vote for. Among it is a consideration of the Gospel, which candidate if elected will put the best situation for the furtherance of the Gospel, which will make it harder or bring persecution. Furthermore, because of regionalism, tribalism, or some other idea that divides us that exists outside of the bible, we need to remember to Love our enemies as our self, to pray for them whomever is elected, but ultimately, We each must weigh our conscience here. When we vote for a candidate that's in favor of radical changes to our society, to people's bodies, to silencing Christians, and censoring even those in the world that call out the debauchery of the world, are we not furthering Satan's kingdom in doing so? Jesus was brought a woman accused of adultery, did he judge her publicly when no witness would convict her? (Who would that witness have been? The men?) 1 by 1 each of the pharisees/Sadducees after being asked for he without this sin cast the first stone, knew not just their own sin, but knew that they were not sinless (and maybe not innocent of her claimed sin) I hear a lot about Trump's temper, and past sinfulness, he claims to be Christian, but he comes off as a babe in Christ. On the other hand Harris, seems more interested in herself and promoting herself, and a select subset of society at the expense of life giving aid to people who are in dire need after a natural disaster. If Trump seems greedy, and Harris is self centered, how do you pick between these two? Well some are deciding not to vote, but I tell you, your lack of a vote is a vote in favor of whomever wins, and you will shoulder that burden for the next 4 years rightly or wrongly. The time to choose a third way is earlier, by finding someone else to run against both parties, but not even enough came out to support Kennedy. So I ask you, if God let's you live in a country where you get to use the wisdom HE provides to make choices at the ballot box individually, why is choosing to make no choice actually better folks?

There is no other choice but Trump period !

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Yes

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Should Christians have a job, and pay takes where in turn pay for abortion? Guilty by association.

He’s better than Coconut

Either Pro Life or Pro Choice is equal in regards of murder. Every child is God's children.

How is this a hard question?

Cant vote for either. Neither are a viable candidate for a Christian to vote for. Question? Is God provident or not? He will choose the president. So I leave it to His will and will respect His choice. He has His reasons for whoever He chooses. As Christians, our job is to fulfill our calling to be holy, obedient, and witnesses by spreading the Gospel. Throughout the old Testament, God determined how He would use leaders for His glory. New Testament, Jesus was not political. He was here to complete a mission and did so. Regarding government, He said to render to ceaser that belongs to ceaser. Therefore I pay my taxes and obey the law. No one can justify voting for either. Repubicans are a party that is money driven, and doesn't have empathy for their fellow human beings. Especially if you dont "look" like them. Democrats have gone too far with abortion and LGBT. So, no vote from me. God will supply all my needs according to His riches in glory, so I don't have to rely on any party or government. Trump is not anti abortion.

Hallelujah!!! I’m favored and blessed with $60,000 every week! Now I can afford anything and also support the work of God and the church.

Third party is always an option. The Constitution Party is closest to actual Christian stances these days.

Will not vote. Let the world vote for their own. Unless they are God-fearing, i will not vote.

"Sure he wants babies killed, sure he's gonna veto any federal abolition bill that comes, sure he will use taxpayers dollars to fund child sacrifice BUT he wants LESS babies sacrificed, and I get cheaper gas so I have no problem voting for him, even though I'm disparaging the very standard I'm using to preclude the option for voting for the other one."

Im not voting for a felon.

Learn to vote for those who will allow us to continue to openly share Christ and worship. I would say the most important weight system is some one's ego. Their concern that a President is cordial - Sorry, but Jesus was not cordial to the Pharisees and Sadducees. Nether was John the Baptist. Nether was the Apostle Paul in his letters to the Galatians. But for some reason if you are a Christian and not cordial, then you must be sinning according to those who think being cordial is and end all be all for Christians. Sorry to disturb your fantasy land - but being cordial for the wrong reasons is Sin. As the Apostle Paul said, if someone is living in open sin in the church, you are Not to be cordial to them, you are to throw them out of the church. To think that if we do not have the perfect Politian running for president then, you can not vote for them - might I remind you that the bible teaches that we are All sinners, and you are No exception even if you are a Christian. In this life you will still sin. Saying well, their sins are greater than mine? really? did you not learn anything from Luke 18: 9-14 "9 To some who were confident of their own righteousness and looked down on everyone else, Jesus told this parable: 10 “Two men went up to the temple to pray, one a Pharisee and the other a tax collector. 11 The Pharisee stood by himself and prayed: ‘God, I thank you that I am not like other people-robbers, evildoers, adulterers-or even like this tax collector. 12 I fast twice a week and give a tenth of all I get.’ 13 “But the tax collector stood at a distance. He would not even look up to heaven, but beat his breast and said, ‘God, have mercy on me, a sinner.’ 14 “I tell you that this man, rather than the other, went home justified before God. For all those who exalt themselves will be humbled, and those who humble themselves will be exalted.”

Are we to support anything that goes against the word of God? We shouldn't endorse anything or anyone who is an unrepentant individual willing to inflict hurt on others. That is both options at the moment. Truthfully, when we endorse that which the Bible calls sin we become a hypocrite and besmirch the bible and God to the unbeliever. Call out all sin so that the sinner repents and gets right with God. Including Trump and all blind followers to exactly the same extent as Harris and the people who endorse the policies that are also anathema to God.

This comment thread is more scared of kamala than the judgement of God that led to this situation in the first place

If you or your child needed life saving brain surgery and he was the best surgeon for the job would you let him operate? Of course you would. All of your wrangling about character would fly out of the window.

I'm not voting for anyone until we get adults as candidates again.