A MORE IMPORTANT QUESTION TO BE ASKED...BY THE "HOT" GIRL IN THE CORNER, AS SHE SEES THIS PATHETIC, LUDICROUS, SELF OBSESSED, EASILY LED, GULLIBLE FOOL MINCING TOWARDS HER, IS...WHERE IS THE EMERGENCY EXIT?. HOPE THAT HELPS. :)
Another thing to consider, Porsche’s customer service is top notch. Their staff is always willing to help and cater to any needs you might have. That car will always turn heads but most importantly it will always put a smile on yours. If it were my money, I’d go with the Porsche.
@@BobK5 Wow really? That’s very disheartening to hear, I have only had positive experiences with my dealership. I’m a younger guy in my early 20s. They always took care of my first 944 and even after it was crashed and totaled they contacted me and were willing to help me look for another car. Anytime I had the car in for anything, a service or an inspection, they took very good care of it even if it wasn’t a show car. Always took extra time to hand wash it, gave me good rates on parts etc. The staff themselves are kind always offering refreshments and quick to assist. That has been my experience with my specific dealership. Both of them actually. They also have me a lot of help over the phone in trying to diagnose things and aid in any quotations I had about my car. Unfortunate he wasn’t treated that way.
@@TakeFlightGarage is Take Flight Garage a Porsche garage? Seriously though, I’m just repeating what an owner said, I stopped to speak to him about his 718 s as it looked awesome. He had the back and side windows tinted as otherwise it got really hot in there, did you find that? Have you got a manual box or semi auto, sorry to ask so many questions but I’d like a view from someone who’s got that experience. Btw which dealer do you use?
@@BobK5 my go to dealership is Porsche Chandler in Chandler Arizona. My first 944 was actually totaled in March. I recently acquired newer model that’s already very well sorted so I haven’t had to worry about it too much. I have yet to take it down there but they let the local PCA host membership meetings there so I’m hoping to be at the next one in July. This car already has the rear quarter windows tinted on it which is nice. I may have them do the side passenger windows though I’m still debating on that.
I loved how excited you got when you started to initially push on , as petrolheads we all recognise that buzz when a car is phenomenal to drive. Porsche’s have always been my guilty pleasure, so well built and such amazing drivers car. My only worry is the sound but I must admit it sounded bloody good. Thanks for taking us on this journey Peter, your channel continues to be a breath of fresh air and I look forward to every upload!
I have ‘wanted’ one of these for years and finally picked up a 718 Cayman S a couple of months ago. Fully specced up and it is amazing. It also does 40mpg down the motorway if you want it to.
Ped, let me put it this way. I had a Cayman 981s, the wife somehow talked me into buying a more practical car. I ended up with a Range Rover. Couldn't have been any more different. I did not get on with it. Sold it and bought a Mustang GT, sold that and I am now looking to go back to a Cayman , or maybe some other options. Cayman is at the top of the list. Buy one, you will not regret it, they are as you say a special place to be.
You sound like me lol,had my 370z nismo,mrs wanted a RR so got it and hated it and bought the mustang 5.0 and sold that and my new cayman T arrives next month lol
well I love mine !! yes the flat 6 has its own symphony but the 718 growls .. and lets face it ….you cant hear the 981 exhaust in a 718 because its behind you !!
I’m currently reviewing the used market for my first Porsche- a base 718 cayman. Love your enthusiasm it’s infectious - great vlog and my want one juices are flowing strong
I have the the original Cayman S 987.1 and even though it is 11yrs old I absolutely love it and always enjoy driving it, the handling is just awesome 😁
Screw practicality! I have 2016 981 and I absolutely love it! The flat 6 sounds great too ;) I have 2 dogs and they aren't allowed in the car unless they've just been bathed :)
I bought a brand new Macan in 2017, i had one of the best customer service ever. The car is flawless and rock solid. My next car will probably be a Cayman. An important PRO is the amazing resale value. It was the first time i seen one of your video, good job keep the great content!
That Porsche is amazing , I’ve always wanted a Porsche it’s my dream car. I can’t justify spending that much money and my long suffering Wife would probably leave me as she has put up with me changing my cars constantly over the years. That feeling you get from car shopping is unique, I am hooked. Good luck with the search and look forward to seeing your pick up👍.
I've only owned one Porsche when I was younger, a 944 S2, and I know that feeling of solidity well. What I love about the one in the video is the buttons, the lovely, nicely weighted buttons, and none of these ugly plastic touch screens.
Pros : looks great, heritage of the brand, reliable, sporty, so many options, amazing resale value (not that you would want to do so). Cons: Ordered in March 2022 and getting the car in July 2024 (long wait at least for Canada), was 'forced' to add options to get the allocation (Porsche Prestige).
Petrol Ped update.....bought one, nothing but trouble, very poor build quality, shit dealer “Porsche Edinburgh” sold it from new with only 400 miles on the clock. Pile of junk.
Have the 981.. love it! ..coming from an F13 6series BMW I find it’s not such a compromise practically wise, and every time I get in it ,it feels like an occasion. Definitely more exclusive than the usual ‘sales rep/ company car’ look alike Mercs/ Audi’s and BMs
All I can say is whatever Cayman/Boxster you get, do yourself a favor and get the manual transmission....much more fun and driver involving and engaging. I owned a new 2005 Porsche Boxster for 10 years and loved every minute of it. Was mostly trouble free, and I did a lot of the maintenance on it myself. I say life is short, get yourself a Porsche and enjoy. Just a little heads up, my Boxster had the fabulous flat 6 Boxer engine and it sounded absolutely glorious, not so much with the flat 4 in the 718. That sounds more like a Subaru. If you think the noise from the 718 is brilliant, take out a 981 with the flat 6 and you will hear a huge difference for the better. Plus a 981 will be cheaper to buy.
I recently picked up a used 2016 Cayman S with PDK and Sport Chrono. The last year of the Naturally Aspirated Flat 6. It's only a 3.4 liter with 325 HP, but man is it fun to drive. And what everyone says about the exhaust note is true, it is like a symphony. If you are thinking about a newer 718 with the turbo boxer 4, it would be worth your while to find a 2016 Cayman S and take a drive. You won't be disappointed.
@@PetrolPed I researched them for about a year and everybody on RU-vid just loves the Cayman It's a driver's car. I pulled the trigger a couple months ago and found one at a dealer and it was certified pre-owned 3 year warranty so I couldn't resist.
I've been a 911 "snob" for 6 years, really because when I grew up, the Boxster/Cayman platform didn't exist. My OPC has loaned me several while my 911s have been serviced or had warranty work, and I have to say, the Cayman is the only car I never want to give back - it's just brilliant. I don't fully understand your requirement for nearly new, but if it were Mrs Windy, our two dogs and me, I'd be looking at a late 997.2 Carrera (or Targa 4S for ultimate practicality) or a leggy early 991.1 for your indicated budget. The OPC extended warranty can be renewed until the car is 15 years old and gives great peace of mind. I'm not knocking the 718 platforms, but you know you need to have a 911 in your life at some time, so why not now?
I agree with your enthusiasm for the 718 - the only down side is the low speed shall we call it roughness and almost agricultural sound of the engine when accelerating from low speed- You can live with it but am continually surprised it is there in a Porsche- I also have a 310 bhp Golf R now there is a car of practicality and after 10,000 miles still yet to find a fault.
Porsche has been my favorite car since early elementary school. I had a electric race track and the 935 was the only car would use. I finally bought a Cayman at 53 years old. Every time I drive it it makes me feel like that kid again. Now I'm dream of getting a GT 3 RS and know it's only a dream.
You're first dream came true Kevin...you never know the second one might one day ! I've driven a GT3 RS on track and it is still for me one of the best cars I have ever driven. Simply AWESOME !
Petrol Ped haha thanks That would be awesome just to drive it. I just showed my wife what you said and she busted out laughing and said it's a dream. Enjoyed your video! Take care.
I own a 40,000 mile 981 Boxster S and have spent 4 hours throwing a 718 Boxster S around various handling circuits and surfaces at the Porsche Experience Centre. Both are great cars and very similar from a handling and drive point of view BUT the power delivery, sound and feel of the 981 are in a different league!!! If I change mine in the next couple of years, I’ll be hunting down the latest and lowest mileage 981 I can find, hopefully a GTS, before I finally have to accept a Porsche with a turbo. 🙄
Mark couldn't agree with you more. Owned a 2005 Boxster for 10 years and the flat 6 is so much more visceral and enjoyable. I too am looking for a low mileage 2016 981 to keep for a very long time.
Mark, do what I did to my 2014 981 Cayman s. Get a COBB Protune to 364hp, 420Nm, 0-100km/h 3.89sec, and retain the stock air filter and exhaust manifolds. You end up with a beast that pulls like the clappers from 3500rpm to redline, a hair-trigger throttle response with that legendary Porsche flat 6 NA engine wail. For only A$1900, it's the best option Porsche never included!! Believe me when I say I'll never need another sports car... I laugh every time I return from a drive now......
I recently met a chap at the local canadian tire shop who had picked up a beautiful blue 719 cayman.... previously loved ........im hooked !!! Im also on a very limited budget ,but its attainable , ill just have to find one a few years older , if the timing and tides are right ,the dream can come true for me as well !!! p.s. thanks mate for helping keep the dream alive
There are excellent condition 981 Cayman S's available in the $40-$50K, which has a real Porsche flat 6. Porsche is constantly offering incentives on the 718 just to get stock off the lot.
PP- I have to agree with the choice. It's a superior car in every way to prior generation. The S version, with 350 BPH is 'enough' to do duty from the garage, it's still too new to be chip programmed (warranty), and, a few choice options really up the car to very close to supercar levels (PSM, sports chrono...) Personally, I LIKE the 4 cylinder turbo sound (flame suit ON!), and, would want all of the improved characteristics MORE than the wail of the venerable flat 6. Both generations are 'special' enough, and buget limits DO keep marriages together, but, I the think the ever so slightly/gently used 718 Cayman S is a better car is too many ways- a true car lovers sleeper of an ownership experience. A genuine "Poor Man's" 911 911.2 Porsche GT3 with a six speed manual (starts @ $150k- Oops!). I'd argue that it's brilliant, but- NOT 3 times as good as a 718 Cayman S.
You are the first Cayman driver who looks like reaaaallly enjoying it...to the last bit of it! Exactly like lapping the last drop of an Elixir beverage prepared by a mystic druid! Congrats buddy...i will be joining the Porsche Club soon FGW!
If you can afford an S, you may as well spring for a GTS for the larger turbo and more linear power delivery...but yes, you definitely should buy a 718.
Pete, I reckon you should try a BMW M140i 3.0 litre 6 cylinder 340hp I did and was blown away by this car and have now ordered one for March. I tried all the contenders in the same class but this thing stood out by miles.
I am a massive Porsche fan, and spent a few years in a 997 .... but .... it’s got to be 6 cylinders, and it’s just not practical enough ... you, Mrs Ped and the dogs won’t fit - so days out will be in the wagon .... a 911 has rear seats (of sorts) !! 😜 and really you need the convertible .... so that’s it, and 911 convertible !!
Nice that getting in this car makes you smile I'm waiting for mine to come in just order at the beginning of this month and wont get it till 1/15/20 so dying to get my hands on my keys and drive around the cost in southern California.
You liked it then and rightly so. Having spent time with both cars, I can say the 718 is better than the 981, it feels more sorted and the torque from that turbo motor is addictive, however the 981 has a way better engine note and slightly better throttle response. I have to say while I love cars such as Audi TT's & BMW M cars, they are eclipsed by Caymans & 911's in feel good factor by some margin.
Roger Bailey I’m a big fan of torque. Having owned a mk 2 Opel Kadett a couple of decades ago that had a NA 1.8l engine with literally about 120nm, even my 320D with 380nm is a revelation. 700+nm is the life goal :)
RB - Oi! Don't go on with making comments just because there's a bloody Porsche in the film. Jeez... Get another video out mate. Chop! Chop! You've not done one for nearly a week on poor old Pete puts out 2 per week...!! So pull your finger out and get filming mate. :-))... From your No1 Stalker. :-))...
Why would anyone use a dog as justification for selecting a car. I wouldn't let a dog anywhere near my two Porsches. A dog belongs in a PU truck. Very nice review. I just got a 718 GTS and it makes me feel exactly they way you describe!! I can't believe I have it! you nailed it on your review. I can't believe there are not more of these on the road. If there was ever a car that would make you throw the budget out the window this is it. It also sound great and is so quick you will not be on the gas for long.
Who would have thought Peter that you got pretty close when you bought the Boxster a few years later. It’s amazing how Porsche dealers understand that you may not buy today, or tomorrow but simply letting you have a test drive may deliver in future years! Cheers, Kevin.
Great video Ped! Love the 718 Cayman, they are amazing cars. Gonna be painful waiting for you to finally show us the REAL purchase though. Spoiler alerts please!!
Ordering my 718 Cayman S next year. I currently have a Panamera and will continue to use it for long trips and winter driving and will use the Cayman S for all other driving conditions.
Another fantastic review Peter. I can't afford one but after your review, I'll have to get one now. Haha. Kidding 🤗. Got to be honest though, I think the more cylinders the better, mainly the sound I guess and I know that more and more manufacturers are dropping down to 4 and less in the average car but I would go for the 6 pot personally and something inside my budget. Any nice used 911s for sale at PC Portsmouth Peter? And you get your 4 seats 👍 Cheers, Jon.
I never thought these types of cars would look good in grey/silver which is what many would consider a "boring color" for a sports car, but it looks nice. I was thinking of mine in either blue or red but I may even consider one in silver in the future.
Thank you for your video. Like you I have 2 small dogs to take along for the ride. I have BMW Z3 with a removable hardtop and it’s tight for them. The 4-cylinder sounds good, reminds me of the older 911s or a VW beetle with an enhanced engine.
Earlier this month I bought a 2013 981 Boxster S with ony 15,000 on the clock, having traded in my 987.2 Boxster S for it. This car is a genuine treat. The sound of it, the handling, the PDK is so noticeably different than the PDK I had in the 2009 Cayman. The interior is downright handsome and puts a smile on my face when I slip in the machine. The car feels luxurious when driven normally and then turns into a hooligan in a nanosecond, when the muse calls and the right foot get to work. I value the sound of the flat 6 very much; it's a real contributor to the experience when I drive. If I want to creep up to the 350 HP there are ecu tunes out there, though without the turbos, it won't approach the grunt of the 718. Here's good luck to you, no matter the car you choose, but I'm glad to hear you're enamored with the Cayman S. Merry Driving! Happy decision-making.
Getting my Boxster 718 GTS in April next year and I’m counting the days. Btw. I drove the “S” 2 month ago and after only 20 minutes I was hooked on that car with the biggest smile in my face.
I know how you felt while driving the Porsche, I bought mine in West Sussex and drove it back to Essex, I had the same grin on my face the whole way home. Had the top down the whole way home.
Petrol Ped Almost. Get the Boxster, it’s convertible, you can’t beat it. Mind you the pooches would both have to share the passenger seat. Very excited for you, and can’t wait to find out what your final decision will be.
guys do as you like! buy the car you like, don't worry about any dogs, wife, or girlfriend, they will leave you one day! but you could always count on the enjoyment of your favorite car! the 718 is a Beast! PDK all the way
Cupholders above center stack, scary! Would never use it. The handling though, sublime.......I tested both Cayman and Boxster, so good. Thinking a fairly well used 911, has the back seats.
there is a parcel shelf behind the seats of the boxster, but you better not lower the top if there's something there. It's deeper than the one in the cayman. You have to remove the wind deflector to access it.
A better buy is a 718 Cayman GTS? Go through the spec and see how much more is offered for a justified amount of more money. Says a Cayman S owner with a 6-cyl and PDK transmission, the model year 2016. The last breed of its kind.
Well it’s hardly surprising that you bought the 718 GTS Pete, you diligently took your time which is unusual for a RU-vidr, for me it took me 15 years to buy my Cayman without upsetting my finances but I have to use strict budget to get a 987.2 and keep all my portfolio intact. Nice content Pete.
I've never experienced a bad Porsche. Even the 4 Pot is desirable, light & fun to drive, the sports exhaust give a great sound! Pete I'm watching this May 2019 so months after you released it (I'm delving into your back catalogue at the moment and loving it!) - should have got a Cayman Pete
Keep delving Stephen. I hope you like what you find. I agree about the 'bad' Porsche comment. Most people who slag off the 4 pot have probably never driven one 😜 The Mini GP3 is going to be pretty special 👍
Hi Ped & Petrol Pooch Brilliant, brilliant😀 Takes me back two years when I went to test drive 991 Carrera 4 S, used, which I could not possibly justify spending the cash. However having experienced what I would describe as a brilliant engineering work of art, heart overuled head, and PDK version joined the garage. Not sure if Petrol Pooch and Petrol Pup will approve, but you already face a great dilema! You could be damned if you do and damned if you don’t.
I own a 718 Boxster , I have owned it since new in 2016 and have now done 3 Euro road trips and today hit 36000 miles . It has not missed a beat , fantastic car and has never had a single fault or issue . Do it buy one you won’t regret it ! PS My Spaniel loves it with the roof down ......
Have to agree and it makes a change someone loving the 718 ,I’ve driven a GTS and it was fantastic car and maybe being used to driving turbo cars i loved it and it’s so so quick and PDK is a delightful box
TOTALLY RIGHT !!!!! FLAT 6 IS BEST!! Its like the 911 v the 912 ...haha... THIS GUY IS A PORSCHE 'NEWBIE' ...HE SHOULD TRY A LOT OF OTHER OLDER PORSCHE MODELS FIRST......MY FAVE IS THE OLD 3.3 911 TURBO.....SCARY AND YOU HAVE TO RAISE YOUR GAME WHEN YOU DRIVE ONE - TRUE DRIVERS CAR TO SORT OUT THE MEN FROM THE BOYS.
Once Porsche gets in your blood nothing else will do. Just bought my 4th, current garage C4S Cab and Cayenne SD. Love every mile in them, its a very slippery slope my friend.
I have this car in the non-S regular version but with the Carrera S wheels like the one you’re reviewing. It’s very fun, has great acceleration and gets looks everywhere I go!
You are exactly like me when I first drove one! The tactile sensation through pedals and wheel is very special, as is the noise if you go flat 6. Closest thing to a race car I’ve heard. They lack torque though compared to a turbo engine and that is noticeable. The in car tech is no where near as good as BMW iDrive. The stalk accessing functions is not great. Mine rattled though (not uncommon) and used some oil. And I found 2 seats a pain after a while, though it was my only car at the time. That said, practicality is pretty good. I moved house when I had mine and you really can pack a lot in. At the risk if being a party pooper, all I would say is don’t ignore the cons or how much it’s costing you. It’s easy to get carried away with Porsche. Don’t listen to anyone who says they don’t depreciate either. I think they are a very focussed car and for me I prefer something with a broader range, even if ultimately it’s considered ‘less good’. Still, if you’ve never had one and you want one, go for it. Lots of people love them, just not me!
Petrol Ped no worries. A couple more from me. Be careful on spec. Wheels - the larger they are, the more road noise. So, it’s kerb appeal vs practicality, especially if you’ll use your car a lot, like I did. The other is seats. There are about 4 different ones. Mine had the SportsPlus seat I think it was. Initially they seemed fine if snug. Long journeys, however, left me with bad hip/leg numbness. 2 hours was about enough for my body size and shape and I’m not fat, but fairly broad and quite tall at 6ft 1. Interestingly, my Porsche salesman bought himself a BMW M2 as a performance car and the Porsche Driving Instructor at Silverstone owned a Shoda Octavia vRS...
I had 911 cabriolet and traded it for a fully optioned 2017 718 demonstrator from Fresno Porsche. Very very happy. It really out performs my 2009 911!!!!
hi sir just a suggestion sort list the car you are interested in you top 4 or 5 cars and have your subs have a vote on it to give a good yardstick of what your subs like best out of five then top three and then your winner.
I also drove a Boxster S when I was shopping for my sports car. Nice tiny car but in the end, there are just too many Porsches driving around in my area. So I went for a Jaguar F-Type Convertible.
Damn I have wanted one of these beasts for so long. The GTS looks nice but I think the S is the most intelligent option for me. My last coupe was a Toyota 86 GTS and I feel like the only step up is the Cayman. Similar overall lines and shape as the 86 too, albeit far more beautiful. Watching your face, smiles and reactions while driving this is the reason why I love a good sports car. Driving can be so mundane, especially lengthy trips. So why not make the process enjoyable!