Should I sell my 147 GTA? What's More Important, Engine or Fantastic Chassis? 

Yep.. Audi defiantly never had it!! BMW not famed for steering feel either

Yes I think it’s a great design too!!

Lots of pugs of that era were. The best been the 406 coupe

Yep good points Rob!! Take care buddy!

Thanks Rhett... Alfa is more special !

There's a cliche that the 2 happiest days in an Alfa ownership are the day you buy it and the day you sell it. It was def the case for me.

@@th3b0untyhunter also applies to Landrovers, Lotus and yachts 😉

Everyone who had a Busso tho I had a 166 2.5 and 3.2, 2 years and so had passed and I still think about what cars they are and what an engine, god. I regret that I sold them

Trailing arms with torsion bar springs and an anti-roll bar, mounted on a bushes that gave some rear-end steering.

Thanks for the support Steve! Have a great weekend fella!

Peugeot is worthless Alfa is a classic I bet there is thousands of Peugeot's around how many of them Alfa's do you see classic, Peugeot mass production scrap

@@bluerineimb1148 Peugeot GTi’s made before 2003 are pretty rare these days.

@@BibaBananas it's still just a small Peugeot if I was going to have another one I'd be looking for a 505 gti

@@bluerineimb1148 I don’t think it’s “just” a small Peugeot. In it’s time it was a really fast hot hatch and was one of the best handling cars you could buy, even though it is a FWD car. It was up there for the benchmark for c-segment hot hatches (just like the 106 in the a-segment). Comparing it to a car that not only is several years newer with almost 100hp more, but also cost almost double the price from the factory is pretty unfair.

@@BibaBananas you have a good point there. I had a mi16 just dident rate it but yeah that's a good point you made

A damn good trick too.

The only trick that matters, if you've driven a well set up Busso powered car you'd understand.

@@Negativvv Clearly not by your own comment.

You must be joking a borring Peugeot better then a V6 Alfa that Alfa engine is has close has you will get to a Ferrari engine I've had two Alfa's with that engine the was a 75 it wauld do 105 in 3rd & go on to 150 & the sound In high rev was wonderful

@@bluerineimb1148 Thank you for again proving the validity of my comment :)

The pug does not handle better, the alfa has multi link suspension, this v6 has been spoilt by fitting polybushes, they just dont work on alfas full stop.

I had all the french cars and alfas, both handle great but a well sorted alfa leaves the french car way behind.

@@salvofarnia8046 and a well sorted peugeot leaves the italian car behind

doesnt work. It would be very bad. If you need better , take 2 litre Alfa, it nails that Peugeot anytime

@@coltr7561 exactly.

306 all the way here too mate, had a 205 n was driving the company's 306 diesel n that also handled like a dream for an everyday cheap runner, why I always loved the Elan way above the E type or to be honest anything else, the fun of driving is a great handling car round twisting country lanes not fast on a strait road

Agree.. very good car that one! Thanks for watching Garry!

Totally agree Paul!! Thanks for watching and your comments

Thanks chap!! Enjoy the coming weekend!

Haha, yep, that road seems to be only decent road in the south of England to test cars on !

Exactly

Peter cambridge would sort the alfas handling isfues, ex prodrive guy who. Did the Brera for Uk roags

Interesting way of looking at it!!

Funnily enough was just thinking if I sell the Alfa I could daily the Elise for while..

@@Number27 You're a brave man if you do that. I've got an S2 Exige and, as wonderful as it is (and it really is), it's not a daily driver. Make great video content though!! ;-)

Would take handling over engine note any day.

Alfa does sound amazing though, lol

@@philthewriter why you need to drive pumpy roads, find better roads, its much easier than driving shit roads.

@@coltr7561 easier said than done in a daily!

The pug engine is still a nice thing though.

Let’s see how it pans out.. but thanks for your thoughts buddy!!

Would love a rally!!

@@Number27 After watching the video, I did take a peek on Ebay and there's an unmolested red one for sale....£5k, but there aren't any more out there!

Thanks Matthew!

French cars make the most of basic suspension set up, very very good but the when the limit comesnit comes with a snap. The Alfws multi link is complex but you get enough warning at the limit, thats the differance. Unless its spoilt with plastic polybushes.

Had an S16 in blue, only got rid due to having no room for it :( had 72k on the clock (be around 8ish years back now), becoming a rare car, wish I had kept her :(

@@tonyb1223 Yeah had one of them years ago. Loved the blue they used for it too. Current one is the flat red, but it's getting a respray to Soul Red later in the year ;)

Interesting.. so you weren’t happy with your Peugeot?

@@Number27 I'm not criticising the Pug, it does handle well and the engine is well balanced with the chassis but it just didn't suit what I like in a car. I may have an unusual approach to cars but I like flaws and quirks and a chassis that you have to do battle with...I just find it more appealing. Couple that with the experience of great sounds and great looks then that makes the Alfa a winner for me. No car is without it's frustrations though.

@@Number27 If you do go for the 306 though, I can't stress enough the importance of ensuring the cambelt has been recently replaced and the engine isn't tapping.

Interesting point, thanks Michael!

Type r much better for track, high rev engine, stock lsd, brilliant gearbox but I did not like steering feel. GTA after few mods is perfect for street and you don't need to drive like crazy to enjoy it.

I wrote the same thing about a dc2 then read the comments and found this . You said it first.

Plus red recaros

Oh please, FFS!

Sure it does

Same thought.....👍🏻

No sure, what do you mean on doesn't work on bumps. But the 156/147 had one of the best FWD suspension (front: double wishbone, rear: McPherson) setup. Still very good today's standards. Try the 147 with a smaller, lighter engine. With 1.6 petrol is unbelievably agile, responsive. The heavy V6 ruins the balance.

Yes share on the Busso, such a great engine!! Thanks for watching Mark!

Yep lots of crappy ones around for sure! Thanks for watching

Thanks Ivan.. interesting ideas!!

I kind of do want one.. but not sure if I want it enough!! They are great cars! Rally also but too much money!

Ummm... Maybe I should look at other options too!

Thanks Andrew, enjoy the last bit of the weekend buddy!!

I went from a Renault 19 16v to a 306 GTi-6, the 19 was another car with an excellent chassis, the engine wasn't very torquey though (119lbft peak) so you had to work it hard. Remember going to the Peugeot dealer and test driving a GTi-6 in 97, I was sold after the first minute of driving it, shame that I only had her for 2.5hrs before an uninsured/disqualified driver ran a red light and squashed the front end... they rebuilt it of course, cost about 9k to do so, was never the same after that though, so I part ex'd for a phase 2 9 months later. P616MRJ was my first one, R150YVM the 2nd, that one is still going strong 😁

Very true, he did indeed say this! Tanti saluti Fabio!!

@@Number27 Alfa Romeo has always been awarded in the world (think that Ford itself wanted to buy it in the 1980s) if you know a little history of the Alfa brand, unfortunately it has had the misfortune of being under the control of Italian politics MAFIOSA. this penalized its growth after the 1960s. Alfa is the mother of Ferrari / Volkswagen / F1, thinks Alfa built the engines of military aircraft / tanks / ship engines and so much more. unfortunately for her, Alfa has always been associated with Mussolini's fascism (that Mussolini himself ordered Alfa that every single bolt should be made in Italy) the rest is history. after the killing of Mussolini after twenty years the alpha was managed by the purely communist and corrupt Fiat ..... today more than yesterday the alpha is constantly obscured by the Italian politicians mainly for these historical reasons. both in the world of motors and elsewhere in Italy we have a plague that for the god of money destroys Italian craftsmanship like alpha itself. we call ourselves democrats (but we are not) the Vatican / Politics is the mafia in all its magnificence, out in the streets there is the armed wing of the mafia .... I wanted to tell you a little bit of Italian history this is also the reason why Alfa Romeo has not become the most powerful brand in the world, above Ferrari itself. I write with the translator, I hope it is readable 😉. many greetings from Sicily.

@@fabiogiglio6494 I am sick of people like you mentioning the most charitable institution in the world, corresponding it with bad politics.

@@philipgligorov5848 are you sick of what? I'm Italian, Sicilian to be exact .. so shut up about arguments that you disown, shut up about the reality that exists in Italy ... what you call CHARITABLE (if you are referring to immigration) here we call it human trafficking ..... here Italian politics helps thieves and billionaires / mafia and corrupt, but 80% of the population works 70 hours a week for € 600 / € 700 with rents of € 400, bills of at least € 150 and the shopping, if you like, you certainly don't fill your fridge .... that Italy is beautiful OK you eat well OK as a FANTASTIC tourist but if you live in Italy armed with patience because here the taxes are more than the earnings. so shut up on topics you don't know ....

Right. In a big hot hatch test of EVO it left all the others behind.

Yep, really odd how they just dropped hot hatches for years! And what they did have was dreadful like the 206 GTI!

I Agree with you comment . I'm now a old bloke and I still remember how good the 306 was . Time moves forward but that 306 in it time was sweet

I even have this test: EVO June 2000 1. 306GTI 2. 106GTI 3. Saxo VTS 4. Clio 172 5. Fiesta 6. Seat Leon

Great to have a new viewer and from France too!! Merci mon ami!

Sounds like a really fun car Michael!! Thanks for watching buddy!

I agree!! Thanks for watching Malcolm

Interesting to hear! Thanks Corran

@@Number27 Thanks, by the way, is this the same road as the one Harry Metcalfe uses for his reviews?

You’ll see I agree!! Take care Michael!

@@Number27 You know what you’re talking about,now if you get one might I suggest Blaze Yellow for the colour,best colour in my opinion 😉

Have yo agree, had 2 of them and they put the 147 to shame, they feel so much more planted and the engine note is slightly more raw

Recently drove a 147GTA and have to agree. Preferred my 916 GTV 3.0v6. Im sure a timing belt change is less than £1,000 these days.

I agree with you.

You're correct, mine leaves people stunned how fast it just out turns them, in my experience cars that people rave about for handling always get left hanging by my little Alfa.

Many other have mentioned the ZX! Must try one. Thanks for watching!

So good to hear this was you first sub, thank you and enjoy your Alfa!!

Good guess

You need to get him on the show!

I hope it is Chris Harris and not the self styled encyclopedia Hub Gut.

I like the quickness.. it’s just the chassis can’t quite cope

@@Number27 same! It was just the effect on the chasis I didn't like

Thanks buddy.. I have the Eibach Pro Street which are basically Rebranded KW V1s... interesting to hear that you like yours!

The suspension is actually pretty God on the cars. At least on 156 if it is in shape (I run eibach pro kit and & HR 30mm drop with decent shocks) as both cars share the same suspension I'd be surprised if the 147 is worse. Maybe the chassis is softer . there are pretty good braces for those cars.. I don't know the brand, but mine where white and realy sturdy... It used 4 point to stiffen the front subframe. Rear was even more extreme if I recall correctly... Wou will notice those A LOT If something is wrong with the suspension look at the rear trailing arms.... If those are f... Things get ah.... Less nice.... And if some dude decides to handfist some polystuff in there... You would mess up the suspension flex... And things will be.... Ahh.... Not nice... If in shape 156 and 147 handle well (driven 1.9 & 2,4 jtdm as well as a 2.5v6) maybe a tad front heavy...and a little soft without chassis brace...

Yes I also like variety!!! Have a great weekend!!

Thank you buddy, and to you too!!

Not yet!

@@Number27 I thought that road was familiar, Jack! Keep the Alfa. You’ve then got a well-balanced collection: Alfa for that wonderful engine, the 308 for the style and the Elise for the chassis. I’d leave the Pug.

Wash video coming soon!! It’s sooooo dirty

Others have mentioned this too Ian!! Must try one sometime

Actually and xsi is an option too...

Totally agree Chris!! All cars have downsides!!