Hi Dan, Its always great watching your vlogs whenever you have time to create them, there is always so much to learn from you, each time you upload something it is different from the last vlog, keep up your incredible RU-vid channel, already looking forward to your next upload
You might be interested to know Amazon uses this technology to print books. They use the Oce varioPRINT VP6320 Gemini engine that simultaneously prints both sides with perfect front to back registration. Canon guarantees the VP6320 serviceable life for 1 billion impressions. When Canon purchased Oce the VP115 was the first joint venture machine using half of the Gemini engine with Canon finishing components. It also uses the Oce Prisma controller, there is no other option. The VP115 is still current a current model you should expect up to 500,000 images between "service calls".
Yes, the Amazon setup for digital book printing is very impressive. I'd be willing to bet that Amazon knew what they were doing when they went for the varioprint.
Amazon has an amazing operation. As a keyboard specialist, I create and print business documents and files in the privacy of my home. Not only I am fascinated with computer and electronic technologies; I have an interest in working with print fonts. I like Canon printers and scanners, since I have my third Canon color laser printer, and I purchased extra toner cartridges on my 69th birthday on April 20, 2022. Also, I have a fair supply of laser printer paper that I only use in my printer. I rather be extra-prepared than to be unprepared.
I will say the front to back registrations is not that great, sure once you get it lined up its balls on but it's not automatic like the KM IQ. I have the VP and it is a workhorse with minimum down time and the prints are really good but the front to back thing is a hassle. Oh and the prisma controller is no great shakes either. Should of just stuck with the fiery.
We have 6 km 3080, 6 canon varioprints 10000 and 2 varioprints 140, we have 2 ricohs 9100s, I can tell from experience over 3 years with this setup amd around 60 million clicks. Stay with konica minolta, they are workhorses, canons are divas they need their babysitter with them almost all days for them to work. And ricohs well they are good but they are pricey. Also we spend double in maintenence parts in canon then in konica minolta and we get more production out of the konicas.
Regarding Color printers, all printer can give you good quality prints. Canon parts are expensive but they last much longer . It all depends on the service technician experience. Concerning B/W , Oce Varioprint 140 and titan are without doubt the best at the moment . Also parts are expensive but it cost per click is very low. But the technician should have a very good experience
Having worked in the digital production space for over 24 years now, I can tell you that both manufacturers offer great products. The Varioprint is very good printer, one thing I would watch out for is toner smear, if you do mailers or other prints that will require finishing be careful as the toner WILL rub off and/or scratch. As an example take a print off the Varioprint where there is some nice halftone and rub your fingernail down on it, you will see what I am talking about. This is due to the imaging system being used. It is different than almost all others, including KM. I really enjoy your channel and have recommended it to customers who I have trained in the past, just as an idea starter for them as what they can do and how to do it. Good stuff. Not that you read this far, but if you have the little clip under the touch screen on the vario print is for removing staples, it actually has a little catch tray right underneath.
Nice Dan. We used to have Canon machines. The B/W machines were very well built. And I think since they acquired Oce, Canon monochrome has gotten even better. However, we had a really bad experience with their color equipment and that spurred us to switch to Heidelberg/Ricoh.
@@francissteiner7708 we have the c9200. I also ran a c7110 for five years. Both great machines. The 9200 requires almost zero maintenance on it. We have the TCRU kits and when they reach the end of their lifespan we just swap in the new units and call for service. They replace all the old parts and we’ve got a new machine. Easy.
I do work for a canon/oce dealership, I work on the KonicaMinolta products only. I know some oce products can only be serviced if you have a license. I can ask some techs about that model. I still have about 3 KM Model 1200's still running. It's good to have backup plan, any day could be your last day with the KM 1200 product.
Really? I thought so too but I have a friend who bought a C750 brand new a couple of years back. The print output, wonderful. But I noticed the technician coming in often. It was mostly for streaks of toner residue (often yellow and magenta, sometimes cyan) left on parts of the paper after printing. Other times an error will pop up and the printer simply won't work. Thought you could also help with info on this. Made me a bit scared to get one. This is Francis from Ghana
We have no experience with the Varioprint but we picked up a Canon IRA 8295 because we were having supply issues with the Konica 1200. Honestly haven't missed the Konica at all. The blacks / screens are excellent. Plus it has been running all day for 3 months and we have only changed toner and given it a couple cleanings. No parts!
As a reseller for Canon and Ricoh production machines, and formerly Konica Minolta Bizhub production units, the CANON Units are by far and away built better and produce a higher more consistent quality output than the other brands we have represented or now represent. The Varioprint 115 integrates some of the technology from the OCE engines that have a history of excellent grey tones and outstanding reliability. The CANON color engines also produce a more consistent higher quality output on a broad ranges of stocks with less heat required than other devices in the same class, and when paired with the Prismasync controller, you have a system that is extremely easy to use with great color control over the job from either the PC or the touchscreen panel at the print device. Of course, the level of service you get from your provider will affect any output and reliability of any equipment, no matter the manufacturer. Luckily Canon hasn't experience any of the financial or manufacturing challenges that KM, Ricoh and Xerox have over the past few years in a variety of area's that have affected each company in many ways. In the end, you still tend to get what you pay for!
Hey Dan, not sure where you are, but in Massachusetts NECS (New England Copier Specialists) In Woburn, MA has parts for Canons. Also, Precision Roller, Ebay and a few others out of state to round it out (if your interested).
Been running a VP110 for several years. Have over 8 million on it and have been very pleased. VP ink lay is a bit odd with the Direct Press fuserless tech, but makes beautiful halftones and deep blacks. Ink can scuff a bit, but is a small tradeoff for print quality. Does not like dirty paper or large amount of pre-print. Keep an eye on the output to ensure lines don’t form on the drum. I us Brasso Brass cleaner to clean my drum when it needs it.
Toner in the newer production print and some of the office equipment from Konica Minolta have developer mixed in with the toner to keep consistent quality. Just a heads up to never use this toner on these machines as a lubricant for transfer belt/cleaning blade as the developer in the toner can cause scratches to the belt.
I dont have an idea about the prices they give at your country . But Varioprint CPC should be very low. The parts are yes expensive but they last too long. Varioprint printers have absolutely zero waste toner . Which make the cost very low .
Oh yeah, our Xerox C60 has the simultanious scanning as well and it's awesome. The windows OS surprised me. Hope it will run stable enough. Self-cleaning mechanisms are awesome and I seriously miss that on our C60 and Color 570 machines. We had a Kyocera which could do it and get rid of smaller streaks 'n dots. Looking forward for how it will do. Almost every machine that we use in our shop is from a different company, just the lasers are all Xerox. Other than that we have Epson, Canon, Mimaki, Ricoh and OKI machines :D Fun but also a lot of work to keep them all up.
We have a Canon C910 in our shop and we absolutely can't wait to get something different. It was my first big machine purchase and it served it's purpose definitely not the print quality we wanted. Now the Canon Wide Format Inkjets have stunning quality.
With how much scanning you have to do, it might be worth getting a dedicated scanner (or two). They are much faster, can hold even more sheets, and it won’t bog down your printer. Both Kodak and Fujitsu make great models.
And about Canon BW machines, we run those things here in Brasil a LOT, i have friends in São Paulo that wont change Canon for nothing. The ONLY THING that everyone says about them is the Finisher is the first thing that goes down.
We do have Canon for both b&w and color printing. VP115 with 2 million and VP110 with 10 million. C700 with 1 million. We are so pleased with Varioprint. Imagepress c700 delivers very good quality prints but it has needed a lot of service calls during its lifespan.
I worked on the Canon varioprinters for years. While they are reliable and the print quality is ok the finishers on them are awful and tend to have sensor issues with them
I'm sure that you discovered the section you pulled out was the fuser, with the duplexer below it. Don't have any particular experience on these Canons, but prior models had a tendency for overengineering. Never a simple solution when a more complex (but sturdier) way was available.
I had two Canon color laser printers. They worked well, but the first printer had an exhausted fixing assembly for more than five years, that is from 2002 until 2014. It was big and balky, but a separate duplexer could have been added at an extra cost. Then, I had my second color laser printer, which worked fine, until I sold it to my best friend. I replaced it with a Dell color laser printer to match my Dell Inspiron computer. The Dell printer stopped working with a software problem. Then I bought my first Canon multi-function color laser printer with a copier, scanner and fax features since 2018. It prints and scans nicely for more than four years. Canon makes fine printers and scanners. Once you become familiar with the way the machine works, you will find it helpful in your printing course. You may find the Canon printer easy to use like user-friendly. I hope it works well for you. Nothing beats a try but a failure.
I hope your Konica-Minolta presses are working well for you. You have great skills like a technology technician. They help you to run the shop with many jobs that come your way, and I wish you more.
In the UK, and I have a VP120 14 million clicks and it's 8 years old. Due to be replaced with a VP115 in a few months. Hopefully it will run as well as the 120 has.
Absolutely! just got a 10010 best press I ever ran, thing just keeps on printing 0 jams except for user hiccups had an opertunity to run the vario and that thing is lightning for black and white
Honestly it doesn't break down very user friendly you get more output over time with the Canon I have over 300k had it for a month, played with the prizma system alittle tricky but figured it out pretty quickly
Hi I'm in the uk and work with a VP130 in the 8 million copies ours has done we have has 3 down times that needed parts (2 belts and one gear that lifts the bulk tray No 1 ) anything else has been user replaceable consumables mainly the spiral cleaners (user does the large one when prompted) the smaller one is done by the contract Canon service tech the 4 drawers below the print engine have a wheeled paper pick up that need replacing when smooth ( the screen tells you when that's needed) we have the optional paper trays to the right of the screen and these are vacuum fed. there is an option we have that has 2 trays above the finishing unit that you can insert 2 pre-printed pages ours also has the booklet finisher you feed the web page portrait PDF's and it will impose them into booklets folded and stapled. if you get it running I'll be happy to answer questions on it Paul
Hi Dan, be sure and get yourself torx 20 and torx 10 screw drivers. I've been servicing and training techs on the VarioPrint for 10 years, so feel free to hit me up if you have any service questions!
Hi , I have a Canon VP 110, currently our machine is down with error 2250212 , This started coming after technicians who removed the drum unit and fixed it to another machine to check if the drum unit has any fault .However, when it was fixed to another machine , the drum unit was working flawlessly. But after fixing it back to our machine it started throwing the error 22502012( Image drum command link timeout) .Now the maintenance company is implying that drum is faulty. Do you have any experience with this error?
As you already noticed the Canon dual component technology, no developer, it has its benefits plus a much longer drum life, I think 5 million. You'll have to learn yourself. I have not seen Canons in print shops, Konica Minolta and Ricoh are popular.
Also, the Canon color laser printers have toner cartridges with drums. So, there are minimal parts inside the printer. As a keyboard specialist, I do most of my keyboarding on a Dell microcomputer, and paper printing on a Canon imageCLASS color laser printer. The results are near-typesetting quality, and some graphics are printed nicely. I do all of my work right in the privacy of my home.
The official life given by Canon is 5 million, but normally it lasts between 10 and 15 mill. until you need to replace it. This is based on the statistics from 40-50 machines on the field, i have been monitoring. Be careful not to damage the drum, as its long life means that its expensive. The drum charges itself, without needing a laser and its really unique. No other technology like this in the world.
If you need help scanning books, I'm your man lol! I once had to digitize an entire room's worth of filing cabinets' documents, then make them OCR searchable, and verify each page got scanned. It was on a trusty old Xerox production machine named Betty. Good ol' Betty, she's in semi-retirement now but she still helps out every now and then. I'd see if Fraser Business Systems goes down your way. They're a Canon dealer and they used to sell me parts on imagerunners. Nice people. If you're going to ever replace the drum, don't be cheap and try to install it yourself...I say this because for decades now Canon has been using these expensive drums on production machines that are supposed to last millions of pages and they aren't cheap, maybe like $2,000 each. You don't want to accidentally scratch one so put the risk on the dealer even if it costs a hundred bucks or two...they may even install them for free if you order enough parts. Advantages of the Canon: (even tho Konica ticks a few of these boxes) 1)Single component developer/toner as you have mentioned so no need to replace developer, however, there is still probably a developer charge unit that may need replaced after many prints. 2)Do beautiful blacks. 3)Sometimes the finishers are cross model so could be repurposed. 4)Workhorses. 20 years ago we had a 60ppm imagerunner and man was text beautiful on it. You could run a million a month, hit 20-30 million pages and rebuild them. They were huge in smaller copy shops. Disadvantages: 1)Single developer/toner. The advantage to having separate toner and developer is more fine tuning and control of text and solid blacks. You can do more changing the charges and feeding more or less toner into the development housing. Have fun with your new toy. When you going to start naming them lol?
Solid machines. We have a maintenance contract on a 130 and only see an engineer a couple of times a year. Print quality is consistent but delivery doesn't like like single sided print on light paper - lots of curling (changing to face-up print will cure this generally). Shove some toner in and run the spiral clean once in a while and you won't have much else to do. Did they come with the extra paper draw unit, a must if you want to let it run unsupervised?
our 130 does curl on single sided but finding the up or down curl of the paper sorts this out: run a few through and find the curl then turn the stack over or leave it our pre packed tinted paper goes in with the paper the same way up as the package not turned over to get the seam on the pack
Problem you are going to run into with the Varioprint is the self support or self repair because their manuals are protected and you can't just get it easily.
So Sad to hear you switching to Canon. You can't beat the Konica color and experience. I service and sell both products for my dealership and stopped Canon Prodcvution sales because they flat out suck. Konica is superior in every way. The new C7090 is amazing.
The 1200 is just like my 1051, end of life. Parts are getting harder to acquire and I cannot even get toner right now. I've found aftermarket toner to be rough on the developer. Significantly decreases its life. Also, paper shortage is hitting us hard. I've been on the phone everyday trying to get cover gloss and text weight gloss.
Good luck servicing that VarioPrint without support. Plus, you really need the E-Pim air feeder. And no, that VarioPrint isn't like any other copier you've worked on.
@@justaprinter that's very cool and admirable, however you also need to pay attention to the software version of the prism sync controller. If it's updated past version 6 I believe you cannot get into service mode without a dongle or a samkey. So whatever you do, do not ever update the software unless you can get one of those and for my understanding you can only get one from Cannn as a dealer. I work on these and they are a different Beast
Here in Brasil the cenario is: Konica machines are TOTALY WHITHOUT PARTS, even trying to buy a cilinder from konica its impossible today. Everyone is switching to Canon or Xerox.
Konica has been hard to deal with this last year or so because of this. They had a toner factory fire at some point. We're starting to get drums and imaging units back in more consistently.
I was just wondering where you source your Konica parts? I have some parts I have been trying to find and have no idea where to look. I am new to this and would appreciate any advice.
Good afternoon) Please help me. My c4070 prints all images with the addition of 100% magenta. In 1 day everything passes and it prints normally. What could be the reason?
We have some Canon equipment where I work. Cannot say which model because it is too much info. But the machine is a workhorse like nothing else. Millions a month. The touch screen controller and Prisma software on yours is the same as ours. Arms get tired constantly tapping on that controller screen. Our service and parts is supplied for us by Canon Solutions. We make no attempt to service it ourselves. We have newer competing products that are a laughable joke compared to the Canon. We are huge fans of our machine. I would gladly throw out all our other equipment in favor of multiple Canons like what we have.
Hi Dan, I enjoy watching your videos and reading the discussions below them. I am now deciding between a one year old Konica Minolta 3070 with 180,000 clicks and a brand new Canon V700. Please do you have any experience or recommendations on which printer would be better? I am familiar with Konica Minlta, I ran the C6000L happily for 9 years, just now wondering if I should make a change. Thanks for the reply of discussing tecvhniks and printers. By the way, hello from the Czech Republic in the middle of Europe :)
Which printer did you go for in the end ? I'm also in czech and am looking for a reliable place to get a better printer for book printing on a small scale, do you have any good experiences ? Thank
@@ndudman8 I finally bought a Konica Minolta Accurio Press 4070 and I am very satisfied. The print quality is superb and the print speed is absolutely fantastic compared to my old c6000L printer. The support from Konica Minolta is great, but I've gotten used to that over the years.
@@petrlysonek6447 Many thanks for the reply, I'm upgrading from office grade printers as they really don't keep up with 150k monthly requirement as we grow... Either your old or the 4070 would be massive upgrades for us, and these production scale printers is something quite new for me, what kind of like expectancy (inprints) is normal for these 4,5,6 million ? Did you go new or second hand ? any suggestion where to look here in cz ?
@@ndudman8 I was buying a new printer, but Konica minolta offered me a used one for less money. These printers can print hundreds of thousands of prints a month and are focused on color fidelity printing. If color fidelity is not your priority, I wouldn't buy such a powerful machine as the 4070 or similar from Canon in your place.
I follow and watch your videos. I admire your whimsy and yours DIY maintenances. But I really don't understand the number of maintenance of your KM machines. I have been using this machines for 12 years, doing millions of prints and I don't have many problems. (writing from Brasil)
I agree we have 2 - 3070’s and the scanners are brilliant duplex or single sided. How are your toner issues? We are still getting toner from our service supplier but not always genuine Konica and if we do get genuine toner it’s normally not in the correct bottle so we have to cut a tab off at the top to get it to fit. Hence why I am currently nursing a thumb with 2 stitches in. (Schoolboy error) 😃
@@chrisbarton1517 We have had develop toner which is Konica anyway but mostly it’s the correct toner nut the bottles do not fit our machine so they either have to be decanted into used bottles or on some we have to cut some of the lugs off to fit the machine.
@@DP-xc8jp Do you know the model number on the toner that you're speaking of? I would just like to have back up options if possible. Currently I only use the TN 619 but if there's other Konica toners out there that I just have to transfer into my bottles I will Look into it… Just need to know which ones they are.
Enjoyed the video…I’m contemplating purchasing a varioprint for our printing ministry shop but I’m disappointed I can’t run 13x19 (we use that size almost exclusively). I’ll keep my eye out for your updates, we might still go for one.
Which mechine get crct tints cannon konica.. Xerox.. Recoh.. Kyocera 😌😌🤔🤔🤔.. After clearing cmplts show its wrk properly happines in mind.. Coz iam copier techncn😌😌😌😌
Hi Dan, It's a really informative video! i like your video. I am new in digital printing business. I am planning to buy digital printing press business. what are challenges I will get it and what's suggestions on it.
Off topic, just wondering if you have any input on toshiba e studio copiers? I'm interested in buying a machine for wedding invitations and party fliers. I have a local dealer who is giving me a great deal on a toshiba e studio 5506ac.
Toshiba makes great OFFICE machines, I am a reseller, but they DON'T make anything in the production world you might find in a high volume printshop. You can run good quality through a Toshiba 5506ac, but to be honest, you can get a really good deal on a brand new e6516AC that may do the same job and is brand new! But keep in mind, its an office COLOR machine, will handle 30K/mo color, but dont try to run heavy stocks through it in long job runs.
@@hackatak I worked on Toshiba's from 1997 to 2013. There were a few office models that were ok, and I used to think they were good, until I started working on Konica and Canon. Toshiba's are junk compared to those. Part hungry, short PM life, and not tech friendly. Just my 30 year opinion.
@@markbrinton6790 I too have been in the technology business for 30 years, these modern Toshiba units are excellent when properly placed in the right office environment. When your techs are properly trained, the Toshiba units operate as well if not better than their more expensive counterparts, in this case the Ricoh and Canon units we offer. I have a school we had 175 Bizhub units in and over time we replaced those units with the Toshiba units and he loves them, easy to use, great value and operate just as well as his Bizhub's if not better. 12-15 years ago, the Toshiba unit was not quite as robust, they have come a LONG WAY!
Really? I thought so too but I have a friend who bought a C750 brand new a couple of years back. The print output, wonderful. But I noticed the technician coming in often. It was mostly for streaks of toner residue (often yellow and magenta, sometimes cyan) left on parts of the paper after printing. Other times an error will pop up and the printer simply won't work.
We have no problems, the uptime ist about 90 percent, we print up to 400.000 pages in a month without problems. The Color is brilliant and the PRISMAsync is much better then fiery. The Maschine is more expensive then konica or xerox but it’s worth the money. We will never change to an other system :)
With my new job, we have 4 B&W machines from 110ppm to 140ppm. A 4/c at 140 ppm and a 5/c at 75 ppm. The B&W’s are going on 3 years old in august and they all have in the neighborhood of 30 million to 40 million clicks on them! 8 million isn’t even a years use for us! And 1 million, it’s still cutting teeth!
@@justaprinter I am just going to say that the VP machines by Canon don't have a life time. Canon putted the number 100 mill as a marketing trick to make you buy a new machine. The up time your machines can achieve per 24 hours is 22 hours and they can run with this load forever. Because of the technology, this is the best b&w quality you can see on the market. Please compare by your self. The machine fuses at 100 degrees and there is literally no deformation on the sheet, as with Konica and Xerox. Please compare 2 printed stacks of paper.
@@justaprinter Good point. Do you see middle of nowhere Montana as possibility for print shop or area like Las Vegas that might be saturated. Is squeezing customers online good option? Fare from big cities would paper delivery be a problem? I would like to sale my house in Vegas and relocate to northeastern Montana that is why I am asking you such crazy questions. :) I am retired don’t need to make a fortune but I would like to have study income the way Biden is going I could find myself without retirement.
I concur. As a keyboard specialist who prints various office documents as a typewriter in a typewriting capacity, I use a Dell microcomputer, running Microsoft Windows and a Canon color laser printer to print a variety of business documents and create such files right in the privacy of my home. I do use only laser paper in my printer. The Canon printers have been working well for me.
Oh, an the best professionals for fixing laser printers in the entire world is the brazillians! We take those Leasing machines that you guys take new on US, we fix them and run till de day we dont have more parts for them hahahahahah