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Комментарии : 827   
@griminale1334
@griminale1334 3 года назад
Paying for extra content is never an issue for me, paying to use the features of my new console is.
@griminale1334
@griminale1334 3 года назад
@Drick Hahaha wow, that's as original as it is big brained. I'm sure a £450 self built rig would stand toe to toe with either of the new consoles.
@griminale1334
@griminale1334 3 года назад
@Drick I completely get that but the price to build a future proof rig that can run Ghosts as good as it runs on the PS5 or any new game at the moment is just insane. A 2080 card alone is practically the same price as a new console and I dread to think what a 3080 costs if you can even find one. If I wanted to chuck £3,000-£4,000 grand to build a damn fine rig then I could but I just do not see the bang for buck there. I'm happy with my old rig and both consoles but surely even a PC Master Chad like yourself can see that being charged for what is essentially a patch is just ridiculous, regardless of platform.
@Argonisgema
@Argonisgema 3 года назад
@@griminale1334 you don't see it as original cause its true.
@griminale1334
@griminale1334 3 года назад
@@Argonisgema No, it's just because PC gamers all chat the same bollocks while huffing each other's farts. To completely dismiss consoles because a PC is the best way to game (if you can afford to keep up with the tech) is stupid. Let me explain my argument in a way even you can understand, if you bought a shiny new 30 series card and one of your favourite games had an RTX patch but on top of your new card you also had to spend £10 to use said feature wouldn't you be pissed off?
@harshamohite1289
@harshamohite1289 3 года назад
@Drick I have a high end PC and a PS5. The $10 PS5 tax is *still* BS.
@bedlamgaming1494
@bedlamgaming1494 3 года назад
“The big boi I still next to me” My dude. The big boi IS you.
@SuperSeigerman
@SuperSeigerman 3 года назад
Yeah he's thick Boi
@jay7568
@jay7568 3 года назад
Thicc bois
@meth3rlence
@meth3rlence 3 года назад
I was expecting some punchline or something, like he was wearing a bodysuit to try and take the thiccboi title..... but it never came - he just gone thicc :D
@logandenton6467
@logandenton6467 3 года назад
Metro Exodus gave a free update for XSS, XSX and PS5 that included 3 graphic modes with ray tracing, 4k/60fps or 4k/30fps no added price.
@YuriG03042
@YuriG03042 3 года назад
so? they have the right to charge for what they want if they believe there is value in what they are putting out
@logandenton6467
@logandenton6467 3 года назад
@@YuriG03042 Just saying what other companies are doing for different values and as of right now if your a consumer Metro Exodus is the best current gen upgrade with several options.
@lordxboss5700
@lordxboss5700 3 года назад
@@YuriG03042 yup they also have the option to show their players they appreciate them buying their game and give them the update for nothing
@gonnsolo8506
@gonnsolo8506 3 года назад
@@YuriG03042 and people have the right to compare them to other developers that have been doing it for free for a long time, even though Exodus made a ton less money than GoT. Exodus even implemented full ray tracing in another version of the game called Enhanced Edition, and it was entirely reworked, and it is free for everyone who buys regular Exodus.
@andyward8430
@andyward8430 3 года назад
@@YuriG03042 that’s such a strange stance for a consumer to take.
@jordanneal576
@jordanneal576 3 года назад
Should have just done what FFVII did. Free upgrade. Paid DLC content.
@mbovb006
@mbovb006 3 года назад
That honestly makes so much more sense as well. From a business perspective. People loved this game. They will pay for a DLC. Free upgrades keep the game relevant and the player base continues to play. I still log onto Legends a couple times a week. I really hope they keep the game relevant because I love playing it. I got no problem paying for more content.
@ll13gaming
@ll13gaming 3 года назад
Absolutely, I loved this game but it is def way overpriced, greedy bastards!
@Peightun
@Peightun 3 года назад
How about a free 60fps update and free co op dlc? Then an expansion paid dlc and optional 10 dollar upgrade to increase texture quality, res, and push out draw distances oh wait they already did that but our news cycle is dictated by the tiny but very outspoken minority of manchildren
@Kevin_Leonard83
@Kevin_Leonard83 3 года назад
They are doing what FFVII did. What do you think legends was 🤷‍♂️ a free upgrade. And everything after this will be paid content 👍
@jordanneal576
@jordanneal576 3 года назад
@@Peightun Chill out dude.
@JubeiSenpai
@JubeiSenpai 3 года назад
The upgrade should be free and the expansion 19.99, not sure why they can’t get this
@JoseSilva-wv2sh
@JoseSilva-wv2sh 3 года назад
The game already played at 60fps on ps5, don’t expect things for free.
@iKrazyyi
@iKrazyyi 3 года назад
@@JoseSilva-wv2sh its sad you shill for Sony FOR FREE
@Murphy82nd
@Murphy82nd 3 года назад
@@JoseSilva-wv2sh it’s not for free when you buy the console and the game.
@JoseSilva-wv2sh
@JoseSilva-wv2sh 3 года назад
@@Murphy82nd what you paid for was the game at launch and aside from bug fixes thats all you paid for and well worth the money unlike other half ass games like cyberpunk or no mans sky, no expansion or dlc was advertised when you bought the game, also what did you think you should be shower with free games just because you bought the console? In what world are you living in that that would ever happened.
@Murphy82nd
@Murphy82nd 3 года назад
@@JoseSilva-wv2sh that’s an amazing strawman you’ve created. At no point did I say I should be “showered in free games”. I have no problem paying for the expansion. We’re talking about paying additional money to use features that are part of what many consider to be the next generation of consoles. The customer already purchased the console and the game. An additional $9.99 just to enable features that should be part of that game, especially as the PS5 version of the game is already an additional $10.
@MrSmf500
@MrSmf500 3 года назад
What stings isn't just the fact that it's technically $30 (since you can't buy the upgrade without purchasing the Iki island DLC) but that the upgrade itself is so anemic. There's no improved textures, improved graphics, better lighting, raytracing, or anything else like that. All we're getting is a slight bump in resolution and load times, 3D audio, Dualsense implementation, and Japanese lip sych, which is a next-gen exclusive, quality-of-life solution to a complaint players have had since the game's launch.
@Lord_ofcinder
@Lord_ofcinder 3 года назад
Honestly this game didnt need improved textures or graphics. The game looks next gen as it is, what it needed was resolution bump and 60fps.
@Handonforehead
@Handonforehead 3 года назад
@@Lord_ofcinder The textures look flat and undetailed (esp ground and rock textures), the art direction is what saves it and makes it look good. And it doesn't need a resolution bump, it is currently 1800p. It's also already 60fps on ps5
@R0ndras
@R0ndras 3 года назад
@@Lord_ofcinder It doesnt. One thing is saying that the game looks good but it has never looked next gen aside of the loading.
@Lord_ofcinder
@Lord_ofcinder 3 года назад
@@R0ndras Tell me one next gen game that looks as good as GoT. There is literally a year difference between GoT release and next gen hardware. How the fuck did u even come up with this conclusion. RnC looks great no doubt but different artstyle, Demon souls has photorealistic art style but not open world, The last of us is the same photorealistic but not open world. The game that it can compare with is RDR2.
@Lord_ofcinder
@Lord_ofcinder 3 года назад
@@R0ndras The game has flat textures yes but its the art style of the game that makes it look absolutely drop dead gorgeous, not to mention the insane realistic particle effects. The reason it doesnt look next gen is ray tracing and photorealistic graphics. I dont even think there is one next gen game that can compare itself with GoT as of now (I am talking playstation games) xbox I dont know if they even have any next gen games now. The only next gen thing i would love if it was there in the game is 4k textures and less clipping.
@axelstone3131
@axelstone3131 3 года назад
We should not be forced to have to upgrade to the Ps5 version for 30 Gil. That’s absolutely ridiculous. Charging for the dlc is fine but the upgrade isn’t.
@JDxxatteis
@JDxxatteis 3 года назад
I’m confused I already got the PS5 upgrade for ghosts for free what’s this about?
@laworder6637
@laworder6637 3 года назад
@@JDxxatteis that’s the ps4 version running on BC. DC is the official native ps5 update
@Volker_A4
@Volker_A4 3 года назад
@@laworder6637 The fact that you can still play the version you bought seems reasonable enough.
@axelstone3131
@axelstone3131 3 года назад
@@laworder6637 this
@axelstone3131
@axelstone3131 3 года назад
@@ps5hasalreadywon269 nobody that’s not what I meant. I mean that we’re being forced to pay if we want to upgrade.
@pilks4k
@pilks4k 3 года назад
Could you imagine if every time Intel, AMD or Nvidia released new hardware game publishers where like you know what that means gamers can crank up the graphical settings in our games and they will run better we better jack the price up $10 each time....
@matbroomfield
@matbroomfield 3 года назад
Games interface with PC hardware via the sofware API direct X which enables the graphics to be scalable. There's zero effort for publishers to release versions that work on better hardware. It's true that when RTX ray tracing came out, a few games were improved (Minecraft, Metro Exodus) at no extra cost to the players, but I consider that generous, not an expectation.
@huhhuh364
@huhhuh364 3 года назад
@@matbroomfield there’s no visual upgrade with the ps5 version of ghost of Tsushima other than native 4k. On ps5 the game was already checkerboarded 1800p and solid 60 fps. When minimum effort is put in it should be an expectation. The outliers are games like metro which are massive nextgen improvements and are given for free.
@matbroomfield
@matbroomfield 3 года назад
@@huhhuh364 I agree, if there is absolutely no improvement in graphical quality or underlying code, and the hardware is the bit doing all the work, it's all-but-impossible to justify charging extra for, but then that would mean that people are buying again simply to get native 4k?
@huhhuh364
@huhhuh364 3 года назад
@@matbroomfield people are paying an extra $10 for native 4k and haptics which I doubt will be anything more than an after thought.
@laworder6637
@laworder6637 3 года назад
And that’s why the console market is more profitable than PC
@Arcademan09
@Arcademan09 3 года назад
I don't mind paying for a "directors cut" upgrade but asking more for the PS5 upgrade is kinda crap but then again this is Sony we're talking about, the same platform that makes cross play and cross saves a nightmare
@TimTams_64
@TimTams_64 3 года назад
Only Sony Ponies are divided, everyone else is like why cant they do smart delivery like Xbox?.
@jasonnesmith6518
@jasonnesmith6518 3 года назад
When does Ghost of Tsushima come out on Xbox?
@UltimateBlaze1913
@UltimateBlaze1913 3 года назад
@@jasonnesmith6518 same time as Starfield and Redfall on Sony lol
@stevenkent5351
@stevenkent5351 3 года назад
The truth, "we couldn't afford the rent" which is nothing to be ashamed of. Just keep being the laymen we love!
@shahzarkhan9128
@shahzarkhan9128 3 года назад
Ohh yeah the same Laymen who scammed people into buying cyberpunk.
@cr3d294
@cr3d294 3 года назад
@@shahzarkhan9128Did they though? They reviewed the PC version making it clear they have not played the console version.
@shahzarkhan9128
@shahzarkhan9128 3 года назад
@@cr3d294 PC version wasn't that great either yet they actively shilled for the game same case with that moron YongYea.
@ionisur
@ionisur 3 года назад
@@shahzarkhan9128 shill? Didn't they say the game was super buggy
@nihilistick
@nihilistick 3 года назад
@@shahzarkhan9128 yong shilled the fuck out of it but I don't think the lamon "shilled" it
@ChenWei91
@ChenWei91 3 года назад
Imagine paying money to turn the graphic settings from medium to high...
@john18563
@john18563 3 года назад
so play it on medium
@thespeedtapper4
@thespeedtapper4 3 года назад
not even that. Its just a resolution increase.
@jasontodd1226
@jasontodd1226 3 года назад
Big YIKES.
@nicktubby9710
@nicktubby9710 3 года назад
Imagine paying $10 for lip sync.
@john18563
@john18563 3 года назад
imagine you don't have to pay it if you don't want to.
@veckgames
@veckgames 3 года назад
This is why market domination is bad. Companies feel they're free to do whatever they want and reach further and further into consumers' wallets.
@MyWORDisntGospel
@MyWORDisntGospel 3 года назад
The consumer is free to not buy the product. What are you arguing?
@mintgoldheart6126
@mintgoldheart6126 3 года назад
@@MyWORDisntGospel so you're fine with the fact that you have to pay *again* to use the full capacity of your new hardware?
@MyWORDisntGospel
@MyWORDisntGospel 3 года назад
@@mintgoldheart6126 no. That’s why I’m not buying it. Is it that difficult to grasp? I’m letting them know with my wallet. I’m not opening it for this. But I’m not gonna cry about it. It’s business.
@mintgoldheart6126
@mintgoldheart6126 3 года назад
@@MyWORDisntGospel there's a point where you have to be vocal with the bullshit that's being pulled and this is a good occasion.
@Volker_A4
@Volker_A4 3 года назад
This appears in line with their current pricing structure. But, it does remind you that Xbox is kicking their butt in value.
@ticklememary992
@ticklememary992 3 года назад
But you cannot play "value"
@billpickles589
@billpickles589 3 года назад
I value games over discounts.
@tegridyvideos4791
@tegridyvideos4791 3 года назад
@@ticklememary992 ah you sony ponies still clinging to the xbox has no games with your last gen exclusives
@adrianfernandoparedesreyes1068
@adrianfernandoparedesreyes1068 3 года назад
@@ticklememary992 Cof cof *Starfield*
@ticklememary992
@ticklememary992 3 года назад
@@adrianfernandoparedesreyes1068 LOL you can keep starfield
@jacoblesperance2115
@jacoblesperance2115 3 года назад
No longer Buying these games day one. I'll wait a year for the Ultimate Game of The Year Gold Deluxe Supernova complete Gold Wicked edition to release.
@YuriG03042
@YuriG03042 3 года назад
who do you think you are fooling? you will fall for the next marketing campaign
@TrulyMade
@TrulyMade 3 года назад
Exactly my guy even if you may be joking I’m all for waiting for the super supreme ultimate deluxe golden diamonds platinum edition to come out with all the meat and potatoes
@alanohara826
@alanohara826 3 года назад
Does that come with a steelbook 😂
@jacoblesperance2115
@jacoblesperance2115 3 года назад
@@TrulyMade Lol. God of War I'm getting day one. Other then that. Got a big back log. Can wait.
@Siboshi
@Siboshi 3 года назад
Does it come with photos and a post card?
@clockstomper
@clockstomper 3 года назад
It's the convoluted nature of the upgrade pricing that makes it odd and the lack of details on how substantial the new content is.
@kal-el4781
@kal-el4781 3 года назад
Thicc boi covering part of the Laymen gaming sign triggers me lol
@KhaosKontroller
@KhaosKontroller 3 года назад
Kinda sounds nicer though. Laymen Gamin.
@grimmcrag8715
@grimmcrag8715 3 года назад
Loved ghost of Tsushima, really solid game but this really leaves a sour taste. Charge extra for the extra content sure, but even UBISOFT allow you to upgrade assassin's creed Valhalla for free. Charging for the upgrade feels grubby.
@pony26
@pony26 3 года назад
That's not even a correct comparison. You got the upgrade to PS5, sure, but no new content was involved. No new features, content,etc. I think the pricing is absolutely fine.
@Lord_ofcinder
@Lord_ofcinder 3 года назад
Charging for new content is fine. We already got a 60 fps update for free. 4k60 is personal preference. They are giving new content which is justified. but man 20 bucks for already existing players who supported this game is a kick in the balls, they shudve made it 10 bucks. Why 20 dollars ill never understand
@DannyK84
@DannyK84 3 года назад
Ignore the new content for now. Lets just compare ACV to GoT. So ACV got a ps5 upgrade with 4k resolution and 60 fps + 3D audio. First, the 4k resolution is BS, it's something between 1440p and 1728p, so no "real" 4K and the 60 fps? the framerate isn't stable on ps5. GoT has real 4K and with the boost mode option the ps4 version can have 4K AND stable 60 fps. Did Sony charged for this? NO! If they would, i would send them to hell myself. With the DC, we're getting the adaptive triggers + the haptic feedback and 3D Audio for just $10. I think this is really really fair. You can't compare the ACV upgrade with the GoT DC, it's like apples and bananas
@Lord_ofcinder
@Lord_ofcinder 3 года назад
@@DannyK84 finally someone with brains. Many people think we didn’t get the 4k60fps patch and they are charging for that.
@DannyK84
@DannyK84 3 года назад
@@Lord_ofcinder absolutely. If Sony would charge us $10 for just 4K res and 60 FPS, i would be the first in line with my pitch fork sharpened and ready But that is not the case. So relax everyone, the price tag is really really fair
@iKrazyyi
@iKrazyyi 3 года назад
I'm glad Sony is finally getting some clap back from their greedy ways. The price hike went under the radar and charging $50 for a glorified DLC (Miles Morales) went under the radar too.
@TheJaywoodcode
@TheJaywoodcode 3 года назад
I kinda regret paying that much for it because for the life of me I can't get into it. It look stunning, I don't known if it's the story, because I will quit a game if there are sufficient elements of the story I find irritating regardless how good the gameplay loop is.
@MrWheelerification
@MrWheelerification 3 года назад
I got so mad about that, not worth it at all I got it a few weeks back on sale, playing it for myself just confirmed how short it was…
@TheJaywoodcode
@TheJaywoodcode 3 года назад
@@MrWheelerification I really got because I just purchased my PS5 I was exited and wanted to see what a next generation game look like. In hindsight I should have gotten Demon Soul. Now I don't see me dropping 70 on demon soul out of curiosity.
@TheJaywoodcode
@TheJaywoodcode 3 года назад
@@MrWheelerification and plus Miles Morales voice was Fuc@%#$ annoying!
@morbid1.
@morbid1. 3 года назад
that's why you get PS5 with disc drive and buy second hand games...
@ayoutubeaccountin2024
@ayoutubeaccountin2024 3 года назад
Imagine buying a collectors edition and still being asked to pay that additional amount.
@Abezilla
@Abezilla 3 года назад
I bought the CE and I don't regret it.
@azurewind3158
@azurewind3158 3 года назад
I'm just going to skip. The game was great but an extra 30 to play a game I've already platinum is wack
@mrsock9135
@mrsock9135 3 года назад
I wouldn't pay $30 for a game I've already got the plat for either. Thankfully this is $20 for an expansion I havnt played and an optional $10 for an upgrade. I'm happy to buy that.
@MrFlibbleable
@MrFlibbleable 3 года назад
@@mrsock9135 yep same, platinumed the game and played Legends mode a shit ton but still happy to shell out some extra money for the expansion. Let’s not forget what great, free, unexpected content Legends mode was which they could have easily charged for.
@octobotimus
@octobotimus 3 года назад
Answer is no
@BrokeGuysEntertainmentTV
@BrokeGuysEntertainmentTV 3 года назад
Just saying WItcher 3's expansions are still cheaper even at launch lmao
@RealSkaarj
@RealSkaarj 3 года назад
Jedi fallen Order = Free Upgrade Doom Eternal = Free Upgrade Metro Exodus = Free Upgrade God of War = Free Upgrade People payd 500€ or more for a PS5, they should not get punished for buying the new console. This would be a wrong sign for the future.
@michaelshahoe
@michaelshahoe 3 года назад
Tbf, while I agree with why people are complaining, Ghost of Tsushima has a free upgrade too if you play it on the ps5 while using the ps4 version. The dev cut or whatever it's called however did add some added features which probably took more time than just what the free upgraded provides on the other games you used as an example. For example, while the lip sync issue might be irrelevant to you, if it took no effort to do, than the japanese lip sync would've been done on the ps4 version back during its original launch too. So assumingly the animators going through all the scenes to replace the facial expressions to fit with the japanese language + whatever else they've done to improve the game is something I can understand why they ask for a fee for the upgrade. How much ofcourse is debatable. But this is also the studio which released a Multiplayer mode for free :/
@JoseSilva-wv2sh
@JoseSilva-wv2sh 3 года назад
Punished? They can keep playing the game as they have at 60fps plus the multiplayer for free. The upgrade and dlc was worked on after the game had already been out for a while they are well within their right to charge money for their work, this expansion dint come out of thin air the studio spent a lot of development time for this and people that expect this for free are entitled retards.
@ps5hasalreadywon269
@ps5hasalreadywon269 3 года назад
Ghost of Tsushima also has the same free upgrade as God of War
@cemarz
@cemarz 3 года назад
It has a free upgrade. This is an upgraded upgrade.
@varno6793
@varno6793 3 года назад
@@JoseSilva-wv2sh Meanwhile, if Nvidia charged its customers $10 for EACH game to unlock ray-tracing & DLSS... AFTER they had already bought the GPU, people would be rioting. But when Sony does it, in comes the "don't whine, just pay the corporation and take it" crowd. I love the fact that even when you BUY the $500 new console, they still need to pay $10 fees for each game to enjoy next-gen abilities. Yeah dude, keep saying dumb shit about "entitled" customers. Sony loves the way you defend their nickle & diming.
@hughmac7423
@hughmac7423 3 года назад
Sam, looking more like Thicboy every additional day of the lockdown... same beard I mean.
@karinzaldanamoran9492
@karinzaldanamoran9492 3 года назад
I liked this video so much! I felt like I was watching an episode of your early videos. I loved the music in the background and how y'all clown on each other and on oneself; exp., with text above the head. Much love y'all
@morzik12345
@morzik12345 3 года назад
everyday publishers and developers show that their greed has no limit
@YuriG03042
@YuriG03042 3 года назад
they have employees they gotta pay, don't be so entitled
@morzik12345
@morzik12345 3 года назад
@@YuriG03042 doesn't excuse predatory methods. And don't bs me how GaMEs CoST MoRe To MaKE when the gaming market has expanded tremendously
@jasontodd1226
@jasontodd1226 3 года назад
@@YuriG03042 wasn't GoT the best selling new IP of 2020 for Sony? They already have plenty of cash for this.
@djkymaera
@djkymaera 3 года назад
they dont owe you shit.
@gogreengameon2146
@gogreengameon2146 3 года назад
@@morzik12345 Amen brother. It's a load of BS. I hope MS go from strength to strength. I only use PS for VR, but am planning to use Game Pass Ultimate for everything else. Won't be renewing my PS Plus this year.
@aliciacook8562
@aliciacook8562 3 года назад
New studio looks 👌🏼
@AizenJabberwock
@AizenJabberwock 3 года назад
Everybody is forgetting that there was a deluxe edition for another 10 more and all that was included in that edition its being given as well in this director's cut, so should I not have to pay 10 less and not receive the deluxe edition items that I already own? Eh? What about that??
@devilgames2217
@devilgames2217 3 года назад
THIS!!!
@foxhound4829
@foxhound4829 3 года назад
on a same boat as you. the only thing i care about is 4k PS5 upgrade - that should be free at least for deluxe owners
@ramonandrajo6348
@ramonandrajo6348 3 года назад
And I don't care.
@devilgames2217
@devilgames2217 3 года назад
@@deetsitmeisterjd Sony, since becoming a Californian company, does not do any sense.
@UmbraWeiss
@UmbraWeiss 3 года назад
@@devilgames2217 California was the start of Sony downfall, it will get worse :))
@Reikuma-X
@Reikuma-X 3 года назад
I’m fine with paying for the new content, I would enjoy to support them and the work they do. But next gen upgrades should be a free update. Maybe this is me complaining but I spend $500 on a console and in order to experience the best older games have to offer I don’t want to pay more money for an update
@vissermatt1058
@vissermatt1058 3 года назад
just do the math, is the content worth the price? if no, move on with your life this is the base line why DLC has been proven to be acceptable, but has turned into slime ball pay pig fest. if the content isnt worth purchasing dont.
@JoseSilva-wv2sh
@JoseSilva-wv2sh 3 года назад
Exactly you paid 500 for the console not extra work the game developer put in for the upgraded those are 2 completely different things plus they had already put out am update to play this game at 60fps on the ps5. Everything else you just want to get things for free thats called been entitled.
@varno6793
@varno6793 3 года назад
@@JoseSilva-wv2sh "Exactly you paid 500 gor the console not extra work the game developer put in..." Lol, you just described the process of "nickle & diming" a potential customer. Newsflash for ya, Sony is the SAME company that sold you the PS5 and made the game were talking about. Imagine buying a TV and then told, "yo... yer gonna have to pay a little extra at a later date, to change it to certain channels. Lets not forget the starving actors, you entitled piece of..."
@JoseSilva-wv2sh
@JoseSilva-wv2sh 3 года назад
@@varno6793 Not even close to the same thing your comparing apples to oranges. Sony isn’t restricting you at all, you can play Ghost of Tsushima on ps5 and the expansion just fine, the upgraded version is completely optional, now if you couldn’t play ghost of tsushima on ps5 unless you bought the upgraded version now that would be a completely different thing but its not. The upgrade is completely optional and it doesn’t restrict you from playing the game or the expansion in any way. Soooo🤷‍♂️
@king_kappa5263
@king_kappa5263 3 года назад
@@JoseSilva-wv2sh What's the point of getting a ps5 for upgrades I have to later pay for on last gen games? No 3rd party, PC, or Xbox game has yet to do this so why is it acceptable now? It's also retarded due to the fact some niggas like me pre-ordered the game in general (deluxe or default) not knowing they'd ask for an extra 10$ to get an upgrade that should've come with playing it on the ps5.
@zavi3rz
@zavi3rz 3 года назад
I’m missing Shawn Leyden more and more 😞
@JP-wm1cc
@JP-wm1cc 3 года назад
Maybe this is why he left...sometimes the hite ups have more say than the head of PlayStation
@leramar
@leramar 3 года назад
You should always wait for sales, simple.
@BusyDadGaming
@BusyDadGaming 3 года назад
I would have been content by paying for the DLC, but having to pay for an upgrade and DLC, no thanks.
@Lord_ofcinder
@Lord_ofcinder 3 года назад
Its one and the same, U are basically paying for the iki island dlc but with that u getting the ps5 upgrade. Yeah for ps4 users its a kick in the balls.
@BusyDadGaming
@BusyDadGaming 3 года назад
@@Lord_ofcinder - yeah, already owned the game so paying another $30 is a tough ask. For any new users, the Directors Cut is a no brainer.
@justinstoll4955
@justinstoll4955 3 года назад
As a PS5 owner and realizing consoles are cheap and makers generally lose money on the console, I don't mind paying for an upgrade or paying $70 for a game. In this instances, I feel it's crap because as someone who bought the game at launch I'm paying more than people that but it now. That's bullshit.
@Lord_ofcinder
@Lord_ofcinder 3 года назад
Exactly this. Most idiots here are pissed they arent giving this for free. This is basically a dlc, with new content. I loved this game and the mulitplayer, and they already gave a 60 fps update but man why do we have to pay 20 bucks
@ZeroDurability
@ZeroDurability 3 года назад
What own it on PS4 and I buy the upgrade on PS4 then get a PS5? Will they lock it unless I pay the extra $9.99?
@JohnSkeoch
@JohnSkeoch 3 года назад
Has anyone noticed but Ghosts has just gone up another $10 in Australia, all the preorders have been pushed up, not sure if EBGames will honor their initial $114 preorder.
@redscorpion9325
@redscorpion9325 3 года назад
If they’re going to charge $20 then stick to that price but charging and extra $10 for PS5 version is ridiculous
@Evan_Infinite
@Evan_Infinite 3 года назад
Then play the PS4 version on your ps5
@JoseSilva-wv2sh
@JoseSilva-wv2sh 3 года назад
You can already play it at 60gps on your ps5 you dont have to buy the upgraded version stop been so entitled.
@freshprinz9829
@freshprinz9829 3 года назад
You should have enough common sense to know every big released toward the end of the consoles life cycle is mostly gonna be remastered for next gen it’s been that way forever most of y’all complaining about it could just buy the 20$ expansion no need to upgrade 😂😂😂
@alexanderbaldwin1298
@alexanderbaldwin1298 3 года назад
Is this some Playstation problem that I'm too busy Xbox Smart Delivering to understand?
@remidee7276
@remidee7276 3 года назад
Wait it has 60fps already so what’s the next gen upgrade ?
@sugadagud3093
@sugadagud3093 3 года назад
Hepatic feedback on the controller.
@rynegreen7902
@rynegreen7902 3 года назад
Having already played Ghost of Tsushima and traded the game in, I’m probably just going to wait on getting the director cut for a price drop since several games I’m planning on getting come out around that time
@markokozic
@markokozic 3 года назад
Am I the only one who can see the Tickboi resemblance to Etherwood with that man bun?
@Lowlight23
@Lowlight23 3 года назад
Considering it's still nearly impossible to get a PS5 at retail price I'm not even paying attention to "next gen".
@millwaterj
@millwaterj 3 года назад
To be fair, most upgrades are just flat higher frame rate caps, and more stable resolution. They have essentially taken higher settings already available on PC and injected it to console which Ghosts of Tsushima has already done for free. This looks like a DLC package with PS5 specific features. There should be a way to buy the dlc separate but if the dlc is substantial in size, it’d be a fair compromise.
@emanuelperono1562
@emanuelperono1562 3 года назад
Just gonna wait for PC version in 2-3 years.
@YuriG03042
@YuriG03042 3 года назад
it took 7 for uncharted 4 to come to pc and 4 for horizon. i would expect a longer wait time and also a 60 price tag
@johannjensson6190
@johannjensson6190 3 года назад
And pay less. Old games are cheaper, everyone knows that.
@jasontodd1226
@jasontodd1226 3 года назад
@@YuriG03042 U4 came out in 2016. So its 5 years.
@andyward8430
@andyward8430 3 года назад
@@YuriG03042 nah that timeframe between console and pc release is going to continue dwindle.
@h.a.6060
@h.a.6060 3 года назад
@@YuriG03042 The world will not end if you wait. Lol and maybe you are desperate to play these games but many PC players are not. I own on my Steam library alone more than 2000 games, new and old. I didn't purchase these games yet because they are old games and do not deserve the full price they are asking for.
@masteryoung
@masteryoung 3 года назад
Absolutely hate the price hike, where as it went from $60 to $70 in the US, we got screwed in the UK, standard price went from £49.99 to £69.99. £20 increase! That's $27!
@Freshcornpop
@Freshcornpop 3 года назад
Apex charges this price for one skin.
@emanuelperono1562
@emanuelperono1562 3 года назад
$40 for BLUE!?!
@chicjam8928
@chicjam8928 3 года назад
@@emanuelperono1562 you don fucked it up
@OoXLR8oO
@OoXLR8oO 3 года назад
No it doesn’t.
@thejamemes6758
@thejamemes6758 3 года назад
You are comparing free to play battle royale to 60$ single player game my dude
@logandenton6467
@logandenton6467 3 года назад
@@OoXLR8oO Just looked on the apex legends storefront cheapest skin was worth 17$ and you have to pay 20$ to get the in-game points for that. Apex literally has a event going on that you have to pay 150$ USD in order to complete.
@Whisp360
@Whisp360 3 года назад
I'm not in the Sony ecosystem so I don't have a horse in the race; however it sounds like they would have been better off charging for the free upgrade last year, then have the next gen upgrade free like the good will titles mentioned in the video.
@TheJaywoodcode
@TheJaywoodcode 3 года назад
Ghosts of sushima one of my favorite games. I'm of two minds about it. Ethics aside, In one hand I want to support this game because it's worth every extra penny, on the other hand I'm condoning a pricing structure that's somewhat anti-consumer 😔
@devilgames2217
@devilgames2217 3 года назад
Same boat here. I'll buy the expansion only and keep playing on PS5 through bc.
@outogetyougotyou5250
@outogetyougotyou5250 3 года назад
So much so you don't even know the name of the game rofl.
@mintgoldheart6126
@mintgoldheart6126 3 года назад
It's not somewhat anti-consumer It's full on anti-consumer
@TheJaywoodcode
@TheJaywoodcode 3 года назад
@@outogetyougotyou5250 so glad my shortcoming can bring you such joy. You're welcome
@outogetyougotyou5250
@outogetyougotyou5250 3 года назад
@@TheJaywoodcode The little things make all the difference. Enjoy your favourite game.
@4nZ1
@4nZ1 3 года назад
@laymen gaming Zach from Auntie Donna is related to you boys right? He looks so much like Sam!
@brentc2411
@brentc2411 3 года назад
It was a good game, it wasn't a buy twice good game. Plus I definitely remember them saying the PS5 version would be free if you already owned the PS4 version.. I've gotta say, I'm now glad the PS5 shortage happened, because in the time since release, Sony has successfully convinced me not to buy one.
@charlieburrows7490
@charlieburrows7490 3 года назад
I'm confused as to the complaints here. Currently you can play the PS4 disc on PS5 in back-compat and it runs at target 60fps and 4k...it looks great. That in effect is free, the free "upgrade" if you like. The additional content is new, the dualsense and haptic feedback is PS5 specific, and the audio -tech changes are ps5 specific. So why can't they charge for that? It's new content and upgraded changes to utilise the hardware. All the other games people are saying that have done it for "free" have only offered a 4k 60 bump due to performance. So I have no problem with them charging really for additional hardware advantages and content...
@Branfaol1
@Branfaol1 3 года назад
Well the question asked is misleading. Because the "Upgrade" isn't just a upgrade is a upgrade. It's a Expansion pack with a upgrade bundled with it. So yes paying a extra 20 bucks makes sense. Not could and as should a lite version of some of the updates be made available for free. Possibly. But that can depend on how hard it would be to integrate those changes in a base game patch. It's possible something time that may be in the works. Now that secondary upgrade charge to PS5 is suspect.
@Nerift
@Nerift 3 года назад
1st adopters always get the short end of the stick it is what it is.... its like complaining that a game you bought has now gone on sale
@Mockingbird7504
@Mockingbird7504 3 года назад
They just knew that they could get away with it because the game is so successful. And screwing over day 1 supporters is like a staple of the industry at this point.
@2k7podge2k7
@2k7podge2k7 3 года назад
How does everybody feel about death stranding directors cut its essentially the same thing as got
@devilgames2217
@devilgames2217 3 года назад
These things should be free to everyone that supported at the beginning and then whatever price to the rest. It's fair that way.
@gooieglopp
@gooieglopp 3 года назад
oh noooooo not the top knot
@consoul.34
@consoul.34 3 года назад
The Panebianco brothers are the only true darlings of the industry.
@cemarz
@cemarz 3 года назад
It is odd. They put out a free ps5 upgrade when that system launched. This is effectively paying $10 for a patch to that upgrade.
@leagueofdead569
@leagueofdead569 3 года назад
Its not that bad. You can upgrade to the ps4 directors cut if you just want the dlc (the ps4 upgrade is a normal price for dlc). Its not like you have to buy the ps5 upgrade.
@farmasingh
@farmasingh 3 года назад
But does it really need a ps5 upgrade? It already looks good on the ps5, any other improvements I don't think I will be able to tell.
@DooD7942
@DooD7942 3 года назад
The problem is not charging for the dlc. The problem is charging for dual sense an 3d audio which are features of the ps5
@MBL666UK
@MBL666UK 3 года назад
If I could play a PS5 game with a DualShock 4 or Dualsense controller without haptics & triggers for free but if you want the controller features you have to play. 3D audio is 15-20 years old….. paying for a basic in gaming audio
@vladdracul2379
@vladdracul2379 3 года назад
Honestly, as a 99% PC gamer (1% Switch), I would never pay for an upgraded version after I already bought the game. That is especially so when the game is less than 5 years old. So no, I would be peeved if I was getting the equivalent of a patch update and forced to pay $10-$30. As for the DLC comment, no game that has just been released should be making you pay for DLC within the year of release. I'm sorry, but that's BS. If they had DLC on day one or in the first year, odds are these were all features withheld from the base game to make you pay more to experience the full thing. I am no longer buying games on release and I refuse to buy games that have purchasable DLC within the first year of release, let alone day one DLC. It's absolute BS and I refuse to engage in these companies that are ruining an entire industry.
@MercPunisher
@MercPunisher 3 года назад
If we have to pay at all it should never be full price, 20 to 30 dollars max but free creates more fans which could mean more future sales
@lordxboss5700
@lordxboss5700 3 года назад
I wish there was somewhere I could get next gen resolution and fps boosts for free
@haroldtrei
@haroldtrei 3 года назад
Hmmmmm where could that be? 🤔
@kesubiz8900
@kesubiz8900 3 года назад
THICC boi and the bro formerly known as THICC boi 😭
@MrXxsnipesXx
@MrXxsnipesXx 3 года назад
It seems to be only a thing first party exclusives are doing, meanwhile you have stuff like FF7R which is a free upgrade to PS5
@marsmars2027
@marsmars2027 3 года назад
Should also have a pc release :-)
@elliswhitworth
@elliswhitworth 3 года назад
Sam turning into the big boy
@razvanzamfir1545
@razvanzamfir1545 3 года назад
I think to satisfy both worlds, I'll just wait till it drops 50% off :)
@pushpakbhole2484
@pushpakbhole2484 3 года назад
I think more jarring issue is no option to PS5 upgrade without buying dlc
@doxy6548
@doxy6548 3 года назад
Hey wait a minute who is the new guy
@driftysilver7620
@driftysilver7620 3 года назад
I just wanna say that i fucking love how you're humble enough to include the slips ups (like that you were wrong (at 9:44) . I started watching this channel when it was the era of sam and ralph. But your whole family seems cool as shit. Your humbleness that you include in your cuts makes it seem real, and that's what brings me back everytime. Keep being as cool as you are Sam/Alec.
@driftysilver7620
@driftysilver7620 3 года назад
As a 32 year old dad, I don't have the funds or the time to be buying games on a weekly basis like i used to. And between your back and forth banter channel (which helps give real perspective by the way), and ralph's reviews, I really really appreciate being able to get my 'need to know' information before I dump money on a game that I may play once a month. From the bottom of my heart, thank you to all of you fellows. I hope you know that you do a lot of good with this channel.
@MyEvilTaco
@MyEvilTaco 3 года назад
Better question, did people not expect Sony to do this yet again?
@b_ruff
@b_ruff 3 года назад
I haven't watched one of these in awhile so DAMN did Same get big!
@Visceral66
@Visceral66 3 года назад
Imagine paying for the cyberpunk 2077 next gen upgrade lmao
@shub125
@shub125 3 года назад
My opinion if they do good reward good, like smash bros has a lot of characters so in my opinion it's ok to pay for extra stuff even if the dlc is 50/50. But if they do bad then no reward like how Pokémon sword and shield made their dlc separate for both versions yet not one price for both yet the game was obviously rushed and removed some Pokémon from this version.
@SynthLizard8
@SynthLizard8 3 года назад
It's all about if people "will pay" not if they have too.
@sartavin
@sartavin 3 года назад
If you've already played the game, then why bother? There wasn't a whole lot to do beyond busywork once the story campaign is done. For me, it was a solid 30 hours that I'll probably never come back to. I could wait for a couple years and buy on sale, but by that point the next gen will be really kicking off.
@slippingjimy
@slippingjimy 3 года назад
Hmm, well the DLC is as big as Witcher 3 DLC, I'm ok with it.. bit pricey though. I'm just happy they did the ps5 remaster so soon. Was asking for it.
@superskills1017
@superskills1017 3 года назад
I'm not exactly against them if they choose to charge for the upgrade as they've been very consumer friendly to date, I just hope it's discounted for those who already have it.
@digitizemecapn
@digitizemecapn 3 года назад
Lol the free 60 fps patch and multiplayer for Ghost of Tsushima was the only pro-consumer move sony had left and they fucked it up
@aisucks2637
@aisucks2637 3 года назад
Divided? ... I cant even find a console...
@punipunipyo
@punipunipyo 3 года назад
Try "It Takes Two" with thic boi !!!
@ak1996able
@ak1996able 3 года назад
3D audio isn't an upgrade it was available on PS4 version of the game
@fvxxk
@fvxxk 3 года назад
Multiplayer was amazingly done, with loot that makes sense and a grind that is a lot of fun, raid mode is perfect. It was all free! So they’re asking for $30 to release single player dlc, enhance it with ps5 features, 60 FPS, and more multiplayer content! All while (insert live game service here) charges $40 for blue!
@morbid1.
@morbid1. 3 года назад
standard PS5 game in my country already cost 80-90$... I have GoT ps4 and I can buy upgrade to ps5 for 22$ my financial advice is to buy ps4 version second hand (I got mine for like 40$) and buy upgrade so it will be 60$ overall ofc we are paying for upgrade so yeah, it kinda sucks... unless it's not just "upgrade" but proper dlc content
@savvgorr3578
@savvgorr3578 3 года назад
If you ask me they shouldn’t charge us for just upgrade only but what Sony did is just smart. We gonna find out after we play the DLC if $30cdn is worth it.
@GuyverN7
@GuyverN7 3 года назад
Thicc boy is the thin one now
@GENKI_INU
@GENKI_INU 3 года назад
A simple re-release costing MORE than the original price of the game should be illegal. Especially if there's no additional content being added. And even then, I'd argue the price should be the same even WITH additional content/DLC, as a gesture of goodwill.
@devilgames2217
@devilgames2217 3 года назад
Bought Returnal and R&C on release ($90 here in Canada). Got Demon Souls remake as a present. DO NOT PAY a cent over $50 for each. It's just, not worth it.
@bjorn970
@bjorn970 3 года назад
I’ll wait for a deal, no problem.
@thewu910
@thewu910 3 года назад
I've had the PS4 version since day one, and I am really excited about the DLC. That said, it does feel kind of shitty that the most loyal customers are getting borked for the most cash on this. The previous free DLC was a revelation, and such a good feeling when measured against most of the industry. It just doesn't feel like Sucker Punch had anything to do with this decision...
@Lord_ofcinder
@Lord_ofcinder 3 года назад
This is clearly sony, SP gave us a great multiplayer and jesus that was so different so much new shit. I dont mind paying for this but this does smell a lot like sonys bullshit
@jasontodd1226
@jasontodd1226 3 года назад
@@Lord_ofcinder you guys gotta stand up against this BS just like the Xbox users who did when Microsoft thought they could get away by charging 120$ for Gold for 1 year.
@Lord_ofcinder
@Lord_ofcinder 3 года назад
@@jasontodd1226 See like I said there is no harm in paying extra for this cause we are getting new content. But the problem comes with existing ps5 users wtih this game. Why do we have to pay 20 bucks is my question. I dont mind paying 20 bucks but that brings our value for this game to 80$. They shudve given this for 10$.
@SteddiFLo
@SteddiFLo 3 года назад
So we shouldn't pay Suckerpunch going back in GOT PS4 code and transforming into a PS5 native version. Playstation & Suckerpunch could had just left it as PS4 game because PS5 has backwards compatibility but they went back and implemented haptic Feedback, Adaptive Triggers, 3D Audio, and perfect Japanese Lip Sync.
@christophluger793
@christophluger793 3 года назад
Well they gave a decent dlc for free so I would pay the 30€ for the upgrade and new content (so it's basically the price of a big addon)
@Thump505
@Thump505 3 года назад
It simply feels like Sony trying to hardline the $70 next gen pricing standardization and seeing where they land early in the platform's life cycle.
@erraddict
@erraddict 3 года назад
Digital Foundry said that the PS5 version of FFXIV runs worse than the PS4 version (on PS5) and I hope this isn't the same I'd be okay with paying for a $20 upgrade but $30 is a little steep..
@lesserlogic9977
@lesserlogic9977 3 года назад
Worth it, although I wasn't excited about having to pay anything
@chrisn3819
@chrisn3819 3 года назад
is it me or is thicc boi not the thiccest boi on that couch lately?
@Secret_Takodachi
@Secret_Takodachi 3 года назад
Sony should just be honest and drop the L from Playstation & just call their console what it really is: whether you're a developer or a player "F U pay me" is the most consistent business practice Playstation has lol
@Tybear-qz4bx
@Tybear-qz4bx 3 года назад
Xbox fanboy spotted
@Mercs_Beamers
@Mercs_Beamers 3 года назад
Xbox were the ones that started charging to play online & tried to destroy the preowned market, they’re no angels, they’re only trying to be a little more consumer friendly until they can challenge the dominance of PlayStation then they’ll start their old tricks again. Didn’t they just double the price to play online recently too? They got a massive backlash and changed their mind because of it.
@AlphaAceEX
@AlphaAceEX 3 года назад
@@Mercs_Beamers and why shouldnt sony get the same backlash?
@Secret_Takodachi
@Secret_Takodachi 3 года назад
@@Tybear-qz4bx nah bro I'm an adult I play on PC. But thanks for admitting you're a Sony simp lol
@Secret_Takodachi
@Secret_Takodachi 3 года назад
@@Mercs_Beamers so.... Microsoft *is bad* for what they did almost 20 years ago, but Playstation *isn't bad* for doing all of the following in the last 5 years: fighting cross platform play, charging indie developers more than any other platform while also being more controlling in regards to game prices (aka not allowing devs to put their games on sale without official Playstation approval) & forcing players to pay to play the next gen version of a game they already own? There's more examples but those are 4 off the top of my head.. That's some interesting logic........
@dhruvholla9090
@dhruvholla9090 3 года назад
Sam is now bigger than the big boi...
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