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Should Steven Be Helping the Diamonds? 

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The Great Diamond Authority have returned to the center of conversation in Steven Universe after the release of the Movie, so in our first video examining White Diamond, Blue Diamond and Yellow Diamond after the events of Change Your Mind, let's debate if Steven should even be assisting the Diamonds at all.
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@Tohpeak
@Tohpeak 5 лет назад
Diamonds: inferior live forms Steven: B R U H
@slothful2039
@slothful2039 5 лет назад
*L i f e
@alyssacooksey7937
@alyssacooksey7937 5 лет назад
The diamonds need to have a lesson on being too clingy. They are like puppies😂
@deandra1735
@deandra1735 5 лет назад
........ That's like telling a mother to let go of their child when there not even and adult yet
@omisnchbh3601
@omisnchbh3601 5 лет назад
Bascily i argge with you but my mother left me when i was 7or 8
@Firegirl483
@Firegirl483 5 лет назад
@@deandra1735 aunts and Grandmother. Plus Steven has his dad and adoptive Crystal Gems
@nic8668
@nic8668 5 лет назад
Omis Nchbh argge?
@ariencango4191
@ariencango4191 5 лет назад
True 😂
@Thalia_Aquaticaa
@Thalia_Aquaticaa 5 лет назад
I was just listening to" Let us adore you" what the hecc
@guitarfarrar.junior
@guitarfarrar.junior 5 лет назад
Gojira Fan same lol
@msmx9088
@msmx9088 5 лет назад
Gojira Fan I had that song in my head for a while now
@minecraftmodmaster109
@minecraftmodmaster109 5 лет назад
The song is stuck in my head ill die help me plz!!!!!!
@SpiderMan-ni8ek
@SpiderMan-ni8ek 5 лет назад
It's because of their voices. Their harmonization IS powerful as heckkkk
@razorransom1795
@razorransom1795 5 лет назад
@Justin Rowe eh I like spinel's better with another layer of electro swing 😎
@FloppyMustard
@FloppyMustard 5 лет назад
I would see Steven sitting on pink diamonds throne helping the home world gems one by one and he’ll probably get tired of it
@yooringonghan
@yooringonghan 5 лет назад
basically what Moses's father-in-law remarks to him in the desert
@dr.rustyrustic
@dr.rustyrustic 5 лет назад
True
@EXEcosmoman20
@EXEcosmoman20 5 лет назад
he can split it between hanging on earth and going to homeworld, i mean hes got a warp pad now to homeworld
@dragonempress8367
@dragonempress8367 5 лет назад
Like pink herself!
@mazqueraze3618
@mazqueraze3618 5 лет назад
6000 years after
@EmilyUniverse
@EmilyUniverse 5 лет назад
“I’ve been saying _please_ and _thank you_ even to lower life forms!” “What did we talk about?” “Ugh, _equal_ life forms.”
@thyvideomaker3063
@thyvideomaker3063 5 лет назад
Connie and Safire whos next , steven ? Nope its steven watermelon
@thyvideomaker3063
@thyvideomaker3063 5 лет назад
Sorry spelled sapphire
@thyvideomaker3063
@thyvideomaker3063 5 лет назад
Wrong
@Zamerus
@Zamerus 5 лет назад
thy video maker editing your original comment is easier than making more comments to fix the oopsie
@sunfeatherX3
@sunfeatherX3 5 лет назад
Wow, you are so talented. You are so good at doing nothing but typing a direct quote! Gold star.
@patronofdragons
@patronofdragons 5 лет назад
The Diamonds could have been handled better, especially White. It's the pacing that made the whole thing jarring, which seems to be a recurring problem.
@ernovincze2900
@ernovincze2900 5 лет назад
Yeah, White Diamond was changed too quickly, within a single extra-long episode. The message is good, but it could have been built up a little slower.
@sharktenko267
@sharktenko267 5 лет назад
that and ya know they are genocidal maniacs who have killed millions if not billions
@sharktenko267
@sharktenko267 5 лет назад
@Selim Sultan Akbar you are factually wrong
@someonessidechannel1485
@someonessidechannel1485 5 лет назад
Well, when you're given 15 minute episodes on the regular, pacing is naturally going to be difficult to make feel "realistic."
@1992holycrap
@1992holycrap 4 года назад
I think this recurring pacing problem is primarily due to the series' overabundance of filler episodes that contribute little-to-nothing to the actual story.
@Nagatem
@Nagatem 5 лет назад
Honestly I love the diamonds, they need time to change for real though, they will hopefully eventually want to change and make themselves shine even brighter as people
@sharktenko267
@sharktenko267 5 лет назад
so your willing to accept abd forgive them for killing billions but not pink who has never killed anyone, freed gems, was generally a kind person if you do accept pink ignore all that ^-^
@miraculouseveraftersforeve91
@miraculouseveraftersforeve91 5 лет назад
@SuperCool Guy McGee The Diamonds abused Pink and killed many. They are literally Genocidal killers. What a world we live in when Genocidal space killers are deemed " Kind, and caring."
@hobojo153alt4
@hobojo153alt4 5 лет назад
Maybe we just need them to go on a life changing field trip with Zuko.
@pumpkinseed8515
@pumpkinseed8515 5 лет назад
Toph would agree
@hobojo153alt4
@hobojo153alt4 5 лет назад
@Brittany Bennett Eh he gave Azula a shot so it's probably fine.
@hobojo153alt4
@hobojo153alt4 5 лет назад
@Brittany Bennett I'd say the comics do a good job going into how/why she became how she did. Remember she's like 15, and didn't have an Iroh.
@erikolson4148
@erikolson4148 5 лет назад
Uh, I think, technically, White Diamond is Steven's grandmother, but, I think that Blue and Yellow are more like his aunts.
@MJYoutubers
@MJYoutubers 5 лет назад
its true, white made all of them (daughters) and daughters sisters (aunts) sisters son (nephew)
@erikolson4148
@erikolson4148 5 лет назад
@@MJRU-vidrs glad someone else agrees
@azurengamer9392
@azurengamer9392 5 лет назад
@@MJRU-vidrs But who made White, gems aren't naturally occurring creatures so if White built the gem race including the other diamonds than that means someone else made White.
@ernovincze2900
@ernovincze2900 5 лет назад
@@azurengamer9392 We either get an answer to that in Season 6, or we have to keep speculating. ;)
@MJYoutubers
@MJYoutubers 5 лет назад
AzurenGamer but what people have to understand is that there an asexually produced alien race
@dbpages6327
@dbpages6327 5 лет назад
Beautiful, I mean it. I just wish more time was spent on getting white diamond to come to the good side because she basically became good in the time it took me to make a sandwhich when she hadn’t even been on screen that long.
@somenerdpng
@somenerdpng 5 лет назад
finally someone who realises what this video is saying but still knows what problems SU has, finally
@littlefishbigmountain
@littlefishbigmountain 5 лет назад
I wouldn’t say she “became good”, but she certainly changed a lot in a short amount of time. Of course she did; just think about her beliefs. She truly believed she was perfect and the diamond authority was perfect and gems were perfect and their empire was perfect. If you believe yourself to be an absolute good, then you can do whatever you want because everything else is less than you. White realized all at once that none of that is true, which she probably knew all along in some capacity, considering how she talks about her pink light being the part she needs to repress, meaning some part of her must have seen that she wasn’t truly perfect and therefore the diamonds weren’t perfect, even her being the highest of the diamonds, which also means that gems as a whole aren’t perfect and given all that their empire must not be perfect either, but she failed to make the connection because of her own biases and blind spots until she had a moment of epiphany. That epiphany is exactly why she changed so much in such a short time. She had a total paradigm shift that radically affected her entire worldview, even in regards to herself. From here on out is where the real work towards changing just begins, and she won’t be changing at the same pace from this point forward, as is shown in the movie where she still considers herself to be a superior lifeform (also showing that she still equates power with worth)
@dbpages6327
@dbpages6327 5 лет назад
Good was an exaggeration yes, but I was more or less coming from a point where this argument makes sense And is something I agree with, but for me personally, it’s jarring how fast white diamond changed her mind. Yes she did it for Steven and she probably didn’t feel completely confident In her way of rule, but as a conflict and as of how far she was willing to go, it just feels like a let down.
@littlefishbigmountain
@littlefishbigmountain 5 лет назад
Flat to Layered If I’m being totally honest with you, it did seem rushed to me too. Thinking about it, I could see how it makes sense after the fact, but I thought it was jarring too. Then again, the diamonds are also trying to make up for their actions towards Pink too. I think it was also a bit jarring to see how the diamonds acted in the movie, but it also makes the initial jar less severe in my opinion because it shows that they really haven’t changed as much as it first seemed, and it also shows that their motivations for changing don’t really have all that much to do with wanting to be good people for the sake of all life in the universe but for more personal reasons
@sharktenko267
@sharktenko267 5 лет назад
they are evil genocidal maniacs absolutely nothing they do will redeem them
@Jarjar-X
@Jarjar-X 5 лет назад
They seem to be fine now, but they gonna need a bit more lessons on socializing, temper control, and manners
@gaymerjerry
@gaymerjerry 5 лет назад
too be honest given how old the diamonds are the amount of change in 2 years is a lot
@neitherlink6612
@neitherlink6612 5 лет назад
Jerry Remig that’s the problem, they didn’t change at all. It’s like when a child is promised to be given X toy if he behaves, he does for the first 30 minutes, gets tired, and proceed to act just as bratty as before. The diamonds are the same, in order not to loose “Pink Diamond” again, they pretend to be reformed.
@Jarjar-X
@Jarjar-X 5 лет назад
neitherlink mhm, they’re not redeemed.
@neitherlink6612
@neitherlink6612 5 лет назад
Mr. Sub yes!
@miraculouseveraftersforeve91
@miraculouseveraftersforeve91 5 лет назад
Yeah, the people who killed thousands of gems seem fine now.
@yoshibts4180
@yoshibts4180 5 лет назад
When White Diamond did that hand gesture at the end, I died😹 "Steven has your planet always looked this..." *hand gesture* "destroyed"
@TelikiMouse
@TelikiMouse 5 лет назад
The irony of that statement. Considering homeworld condition white should not be talking XD
@yoshibts4180
@yoshibts4180 5 лет назад
@@TelikiMouse ikr😹 pieces of Homeworld are literally floating around it😹😹
@watertea9419
@watertea9419 5 лет назад
The diamonds have to learn and change slowly over time
@musaflora9874
@musaflora9874 5 лет назад
I hope the diamonds get new forms like pant suits
@burntshrimp9583
@burntshrimp9583 5 лет назад
Amazing Charizard you probably can it would just be very hard
@nyx1078
@nyx1078 5 лет назад
I think diamonds can be poofed but they have to poofed a certain way and because of spinel we know that they can change by them selves
@Madison-jm4oo
@Madison-jm4oo 5 лет назад
Y e s
@mikeoxfat6081
@mikeoxfat6081 5 лет назад
@@AdmiralWillisLee1942 they can but it takes longer like seen in change your mind with yellow zapping blue
@cobaltcyclic7490
@cobaltcyclic7490 5 лет назад
@@AdmiralWillisLee1942 pearl poofed pink diamond
@tori6056
@tori6056 5 лет назад
Thank you for talking about this. The diamonds aren’t “redeemed” just because they stopped fighting Steven. I think the issue is the fan base assuming they’re changed out of context. I would say the same of peridots arch. She wasn’t “redeemed” until after she betrayed yellow, which was half a season after she stopped fighting the crystal gems on a regular basis. In short, there’s still more that these characters need to learn and work on
@lordseelenfresserdemonking1168
Maybe instead of the Daimonds we see more of spinel Like once an a while she Teleports in using the galaxy warp an she an Steven have fun
@krispy4119
@krispy4119 5 лет назад
We need more of spinel or this show will be a waste
@johnhayward998
@johnhayward998 5 лет назад
I think the dimoands need family counseling
@wehweh6791
@wehweh6791 5 лет назад
fuck everything else we need some spinearl in this show
@christinewhoyt
@christinewhoyt 5 лет назад
I'm pretty sure that's gonna happen.
@HouseRevolter
@HouseRevolter 5 лет назад
Im sure they will show more of Spinel I mean shes made to make people happy. Soooooo what if Idk like one of the gems are experiencing stress or somethin like that and Spinel is brought in to help them
@sublis939
@sublis939 5 лет назад
I like the Diamonds on how they slowly changed.
@tyrkun1624
@tyrkun1624 4 года назад
Slowly?
@peridottheclod5325
@peridottheclod5325 5 лет назад
"Welcome back to another video with..... TOM!?!?"
@tinycloud7738
@tinycloud7738 5 лет назад
When you dump all of your points into Charisma: STEVEN
@TheeStarryMeadow
@TheeStarryMeadow 5 лет назад
They conquered 66+ celestial bodies and did a bunch of other stuff. So I don't know what to expect from them given they've done far worst than PD.
@Ellie-bs5zq
@Ellie-bs5zq 5 лет назад
To be fair, we don't know how many of those celestial bodies were home to life. And well, redeeming them as opposed to shattering them can help a lot more people.
@TheeStarryMeadow
@TheeStarryMeadow 5 лет назад
@@Ellie-bs5zq considering Pink liked playing with Organics I'd say some were inhabited. And yeah I suppose they have a lot of gems they need to make up for hurting. There are likely a lot more gems like the topaz who are hurting inside. I feel most concerned about the gems who had to be pieces of buildings
@TheeStarryMeadow
@TheeStarryMeadow 5 лет назад
@@layanabuamara4854 how is conquering planets and wiping out all flara and fauna on it not as bad or worst than what Pink did. Considering the creation of gems robs a planet of it's ability to sustain life we can only guess how many civilizations they've ended. I will never understand how lying is worst than genocide and cruel subjugation of your own race is worst. Her actions are not justified but it's obvious PD was too terrified to stand up to the other diamonds and didn't believe they'd listen to her.
@Stormrunner1981
@Stormrunner1981 5 лет назад
I'm hoping we find out who created them to be like this (Even White said as much), the fact they can fight against their own programming is pretty epic IMHO. I think white gave up on fighting it at one point, since before the diamonds all use to gather together, then she situated herself in her ship to rule on high as it were. Even Yellow and Blue were doing what White told them to until Pink faked her shattering - then Yellow and Blue stopped colonizing (if I read the show correctly that was why the jungle moon's planet wasn't "finished"). I dunno, there is so many places this could all go.
@kayalandry2249
@kayalandry2249 5 лет назад
Start of Season 5: Bow before our celestial roles, you lower life forms. Now: *LeT uS aDoRe YoU*
@krypto149
@krypto149 5 лет назад
"Steven quite literally got that homie killed" 😂 I was dieing dude 🤣🤣😂
@vlox5638
@vlox5638 5 лет назад
I think there should be an episode in season 6 where Steven asks the Diamonds to tell him about Pink Diamond.
@sadlobster1
@sadlobster1 5 лет назад
Forgiveness is never given freely, it must be earned. On that note, it seems like the Diamonds are working really hard to earn the trust of Steven and his crew. Now, before anyone decides to bring up their past behavior...for like, the eleventeenth time; let me remind you all of someone else who performed similar actions. Two words: Prince...Vegeta! Since his childhood, he had performed countless atrocities while under the command of Frieza. Even after he defected from his ranks, he STILL killed many people for giggles; good AND evil. Then, after the events of the Namek Saga; everyone's begun to show kindness towards the Saiyain Prince. In time, he even becomes one of the good guys...just like the Diamonds. My point is that while people have begun to forgive the Diamonds, in spite of their genocidal actions in the past. Such behavior is not uncommon in the world of media. After all, the surest and swiftest way to defeat one's enemy...is to make them your friend
@PlanetZoidstar
@PlanetZoidstar 5 лет назад
Vegeta went through GRADUAL change over multiple seasons. The Diamonds turned Face in 1 episode. And they don't feel bad about their past deeds, they are purely doing it to make Steven happy, not because of any moral obligation to fix the damage done. If you need to be reminded to stop calling people different than you "lower lifeforms" you aren't really reformed.
@sadlobster1
@sadlobster1 5 лет назад
@@PlanetZoidstar That's what I'm saying, though; if Season 6 IS coming, the Diamonds might get that same kind of change. Plus, we don't know what kind of things happened during the two year timeskip
@miraculouseveraftersforeve91
@miraculouseveraftersforeve91 5 лет назад
@@PlanetZoidstar Exactly! Why is no one else talking about this?
@kiamarie6904
@kiamarie6904 5 лет назад
YASSS D HE SHOULD HELP THEM (MORE BACKGROUND ABOUT THE DIAMONDS)
@zacharyyamashita8554
@zacharyyamashita8554 5 лет назад
Yes
@min_says_h3110
@min_says_h3110 5 лет назад
Honestly, I think the only diamond I can really even feel a tad of sympathy for is Blue. I feel she's the most empathetic of the three and possibly the most influential Diamond since she sort of portrays more emotion than yellow and white. She and Steven can actually do something to improve the world.
@TelikiMouse
@TelikiMouse 5 лет назад
Even though she was part of pink abuse. Blue seemed like the only diamond who truly regretted her actions towards pink. She is the only diamond who did everything she can to keep pink legacy alive. Yellow represses her emotions and trys to ignore the pain. White did not accept the fact that she died until she saw for herself that pink diamond was truly gone.
@8umber
@8umber 5 лет назад
White Diamond knew that Pink didn't die but let Yellow and Blue believe it for thousands of years. Is it cool if I just point that out real quick?
@littlefishbigmountain
@littlefishbigmountain 5 лет назад
What makes you think White knew? I’m just curious because if they said that, or even implied it, I totally missed it
@ZhongliArchonofSwag
@ZhongliArchonofSwag 5 лет назад
GubbaNubNubDooRahKah White called it all a game... and seemed completely unsurprised. It seems to me that it’s very likely she knew.
@fairymairah
@fairymairah 5 лет назад
Yup !
@littlefishbigmountain
@littlefishbigmountain 5 лет назад
Demon Emperor Void Swag I thought that was more just her reaction to finding out Pink had just been running away from her responsibilities his whole time coupled with not understanding that Steven is in fact not Pink. Plus, we know that 6,000 years is a laughably short amount of time to Yellow (literally), so it’s probably even shorter to White. To her, it’d be like a kid running away from home for a few days to a friend’s house and then coming back. Again, because she thought it was still Pink in there, which is why she ripped out Steven’s gem-to force Pink to come back out
@ZhongliArchonofSwag
@ZhongliArchonofSwag 5 лет назад
GubbaNubNubDooRahKah Right, I’m not arguing that. But her reaction to it all wasn’t that of a concerned parent, or even in character for what we’ve seen of white if she was actually upset, likewise consider that she didn’t even turn up to the trial, or even send her pearl. My analogy is that White is the parent who from her perspective knew all along that her child was camped out in her secret hiding place in the back yard, while her sisters were freaking out and holding a pretend funeral for her, and even holding a play trial for her murder, accusing Pink herself dressed up in a silly costume. By her view it was all a silly game that her daughter was playing on her sisters. Nothing more. Then her daughter shows up in a silly human costume. She just sighs, pats her on the proverbial head and sends her to her room. It’s possible she didn’t know and was just reigning in her emotions, but given how Pink seems to be able to get emotion out of her, I think it’s likely she just knew all along.
@greenhat8978
@greenhat8978 5 лет назад
Honestly, I don't think we have enough information to accurately decide whether he did the right thing. And perhaps that's for the best. It leaves it more...... uncertain, that way. In life we're never sure if we made the right choice, or the best choice, and that's what's going on here I think. We aren't supposed to know the best way to handle the diamonds because they're so different from us. We can only try what works and see what doesn't and move on from there. And that's pretty much how any interaction with anyone goes, diplomatic or otherwise
@le3044
@le3044 5 лет назад
There's so much character development in Seven universe, the movie was great!
@christinewhoyt
@christinewhoyt 5 лет назад
You've made a typo.
@pepsicola3561
@pepsicola3561 5 лет назад
@@christinewhoyt so did you
@DragonFang409
@DragonFang409 5 лет назад
Darn, only seven? Thought there were at least ten.
@e.e.y.1803
@e.e.y.1803 5 лет назад
@@christinewhoyt you**
@christinewhoyt
@christinewhoyt 5 лет назад
@@e.e.y.1803 still valid with you've made
@nicholasarvanitis2942
@nicholasarvanitis2942 5 лет назад
the diamonds can sing and adore Steven all they want, you can't wipe away all that they've done.
@nicholasarvanitis2942
@nicholasarvanitis2942 5 лет назад
@Louis Ramirez I agree with you, but still, this could just be me, even if they were to genuinely change and become better people, the damage is still there, or at least a lot of it is. I mean lets assume the worst and say they are responsible for the deaths of billions across hundreds of planets, taken and destroyed without regard or mercy, then put on top the countless of there own people prosecuted and shattered under there rule. I just want to make it clear, there is a point were it's just too much, were forgiveness should not be given and where one deserves to be taken out. Dark, I know but where talking about genocide and 1,000's of years of oppression here.
@IL-CHIMERA
@IL-CHIMERA 5 лет назад
"What is better, to be born good, or to overcome your evil nature?"
@nicholasarvanitis2942
@nicholasarvanitis2942 5 лет назад
@@IL-CHIMERA No one is born good, and overcoming evil nature I'd say is better, but if there were an alien survivor of one of the planets that where conquered and destroyed by the diamonds, all there people wiped out, including family, friends, everything they knew and had taken away from them, then to be told to let it go, the ones who did this are trying to be good now. I ask you to put yourself in their position, to have all your loved ones and friends taken away, your life ruined, then be told to forgive and forget, not a good message to send in my opinion.
@IL-CHIMERA
@IL-CHIMERA 5 лет назад
@@nicholasarvanitis2942 As one who has suffered at the hands of someone else, I can tell you from experience, that you can forgive that person if they truly try to change and repent for what they did
@mikewade1604
@mikewade1604 5 лет назад
Nobody's buying their bullshit, especially Steven.
@erikolson4148
@erikolson4148 5 лет назад
If the Diamonds *do* get new forms, it would be nice if they have stars on their outfits, to show how much they have grown, if they have at all.
@shateeqsmith
@shateeqsmith 5 лет назад
Erik Olson No, no more stars, I want them to be different than the Crystal Gems.
@erikolson4148
@erikolson4148 5 лет назад
@@shateeqsmith I know that the stars are overused, but, I just thought/felt that it might be nice to see.
@shateeqsmith
@shateeqsmith 5 лет назад
Whatever floats your boats.
@gorillazsan
@gorillazsan 5 лет назад
Blue felt like the easiest and more well-handled one. Yellow seemed a bit rushed yet plausible. White was messed up. There was no time to "redeem" her and her whole turn around from being an all-powerful god that could mind control you into being a soulless drone to "oh no I blushed so that means I won't try to kill you now" was just...ugh...it was trash. She got little screen time, little interaction time, big hype, and it ended poorly.
@HellfireComms
@HellfireComms 5 лет назад
Big hype from who? The fanbase? That arc was like five episodes long. The only thing wrong with it was it needed more episodes.
@gorillazsan
@gorillazsan 5 лет назад
@@HellfireComms White is teased a few times throughout the series. We're already presented that she's the big bad that rules over all. Then when we finally see her she is perfect and perfectly handled. But it's her defeat that is just so bad. Sure, like you said, given more episodes she'd be done better. Still keep the pink steven bit but don't make her blush, instead, have her see steven/pink as a flawed or even false gem. Keep her convinced that she can make things right her way and have steven really dig deep to tear down her imperfect ways.
@sirblankface7607
@sirblankface7607 5 лет назад
Right?! Like you can't change millennia of hard wired thinking in 10 minutes. If anything White would find a way to revert Pink to her final form... WHICH SPINEL'S SCYTHE COULD HAVE DONE! If we are to assume that gem weapon is mass produced and not Spinel's personal weapon, season 6's finally would have ended so differently with White refusing to be wrong. Ending in an epic anime fight with the goal of capturing Pink Steven long enough use the scythe. Which White would have won.
@gorillazsan
@gorillazsan 5 лет назад
@@sirblankface7607 The two year gap doesn't help much either. Because the opening makes it look like Steven was with the diamonds for that entire time. Wouldn't it be nice to see that time of interactions to get some character depth? No? Okay crewniverse, keep expecting me to go along with your ideas and not looking into details like I have my own mind that is capable of thought that is obvious.
@sirblankface7607
@sirblankface7607 5 лет назад
@@gorillazsan My god... The next season is gonna play like Naruto's final season with needless flashback arcs every 5 episodes of plot development.
@BenHopkins1000
@BenHopkins1000 5 лет назад
"People change when they decide to change. All you can do is create an environment for change." - Angela Bassett, Chi-Raq
@kaciekk
@kaciekk 5 лет назад
Finally someone explained why the diamonds were redeemed thank goodness. A lot of people don't realize this geez
@GIGAXISBASS
@GIGAXISBASS 5 лет назад
Technically from what we can tell, they aren't redeemed YET. They just stopped everything because Steven asked them to. They do still need time to adjust to everything if White's whole Lesser lifeforms...Ugh Equal lifeforms..thing is anything to go by. Maybe season 6 and possibly beyond will explore the Diamonds trying to be better people the way Pink changed for the better eventually..even if she did make some bad mistakes before the rebellion which was meant to try to fix things for the gems. Baby steps if you will.
@JoseHernandez-xv2bt
@JoseHernandez-xv2bt 5 лет назад
I really didn’t like how they were treated I. change your Mind, I mean, I can understand Blue being the first one to be redeemed, Yellow I thought was a little rushed, but White Diamond, the most mysterious of the 4, and yet she was redeemed by being roasted.
@JoseHernandez-xv2bt
@JoseHernandez-xv2bt 5 лет назад
informed interest I use to dislike Pink after what she did to Spinal, but after watching a few videos about Steven Universe, I changed my mind(no pun intended) because the diamonds are just as horrible, killing millions or even billions of beings and stripping their planets of resources.
@madgodprince
@madgodprince 5 лет назад
Did you guys even watch the video? He literally said that they aren't completely changed or redeemed yet, they've merely begun on the path to redemption, which started at the end of change your mind. They're just trying to not push away Steven like they did Pink, and will do anything to keep that from happening.
@JoseHernandez-xv2bt
@JoseHernandez-xv2bt 5 лет назад
informed interest yeah, I wasn’t into the show when it came out back in 2013, but I slow got into when I was recommended reaction videos of SU, so I decided to watch it. Story aside, now that you bring it up, Blue was obsessed with preserving anything related to Pink, and she somehow forgot that Spinal existed?
@JoseHernandez-xv2bt
@JoseHernandez-xv2bt 5 лет назад
informed interest I didn’t understand why Yellow even disbanded her armies and liberated the colonies under her rule, because the problem I have is that, well, what are the gems that were under her command going to do? They had a single mind/goal and now their general said”ok do whatever”, and the colonies that are liberated might actually be in a terrible state, given the fact that once life is taken from a spot on a planet, it can’t come back.
@JoseHernandez-xv2bt
@JoseHernandez-xv2bt 5 лет назад
informed interest yeah, the idea of home-world gems rebellions isn’t to far fetched, and yeah White should have been bubbled(Given the fact that show won’t kill anyone on screen, expect for Lars) and Steven in the movie was kind of jerk, although he did realized his mistakes.
@archmagus8384
@archmagus8384 5 лет назад
I want to see how Steven would react about trying to redeem these characters if things got really hard. Like if the diamonds or Spinel were directly responsible for the death or shattering of someone Steven actually knew and he couldn't get them back. THEN we would see if Steven's compassion could really be put to the test. It would just put him in the same boat as the other crystal gems, I'm sure Blue Diamond personally had plenty of Ruby or Sapphire's friends shattered. It's easy for Steven to dismiss what they did since they never did it to him.
@JadeDolphin22
@JadeDolphin22 5 лет назад
Arch Magus I’d love to see that as well. Stevens passive, no one deserves to be shattered/killed attitude is easy to say when he’s never been through it personally and has the power to bring people back. Bubbling/Stevens healing/resurrection powers all seem like cop outs.
@archmagus8384
@archmagus8384 5 лет назад
@@JadeDolphin22 As much as I enjoyed the Lars plot, I'd love to see how Steven would have behaved going forward had he not had the ability to instantly bring Lars back to life.
@user-vu8be4jl6f
@user-vu8be4jl6f 5 лет назад
I think what a lot of people forget is that the diamonds have only just begun to properly change. Sure, they helped heal corruption in Change Your Mind but that one instance won't immediately make them redeemed. They've done a lot of awful things to a lot of plants and species, which is not okay by any standard, not to mention they abused Pink for a long time. They have a chance to change and they are doing their best to. They've only had 2 years to change millions of years worth of atrocities and a lot of people are quick to judge them because of that. You cannot change that quickly, even for someone you care about. It just isn't possible. That's like committing 10 years worth of heinous crime, being arrested then being asked 2 minutes after being put in the cell if you've seen the error of your ways. You just cannot change that fast. The diamonds are inherently bad people, yes, but they- like anyone else- deserve a chance to be redeemed properly. They are working on changing slowly, day by day, and you can see the progress they've made for the better. You have to remember, Yellow laughed at being alone for 6000 years, which obviously isn't very long for a diamond so 2 years couldn't be more than the blink of an eye to them and you can bet anything that Steven didn't stay for the entire time. They may have relapsed in the time he was away and reset all the progress he had made. They mourned Pink as much as anyone else, even if it was their fault, and now having her back is going to make them clingy. Blue is no longer in mourning and so she doesn't make anyone cry anymore, which is a big thing as it hindered her and her court from doing anything for 6000 years. They have flaws, they made some pretty massive mistakes but they are trying and that's all you can ask for from antagonists who have been doing what they did for millions of years.
@setheloe7090
@setheloe7090 5 лет назад
White Diamond = Steven's Grandma Blue & Yellow Diamond = Steven's Aunts I think that seems accurate.
@wook5676
@wook5676 4 года назад
Seth Eloe pretty much
@TheSonicfannumber1
@TheSonicfannumber1 5 лет назад
Loving how the diamonds got off Scott free for committing mass genocide on multiple planets, amazing writing 😒
@nerothedemon7413
@nerothedemon7413 5 лет назад
How were they supposed to be punished
@TheSonicfannumber1
@TheSonicfannumber1 5 лет назад
NERO THE DEMON I don’t know, but they 100% should not have been redeemed
@nerothedemon7413
@nerothedemon7413 5 лет назад
@@TheSonicfannumber1 Their not dude nobody forgives them for what they did but no one can do anything about it
@nerothedemon7413
@nerothedemon7413 4 года назад
@Broly3650 🤨🤨
@fabiangamboa1714
@fabiangamboa1714 5 лет назад
"A teenager isn't going to overthrow an empire" I don't know, Aang didn't have any issues.
@flufftron2781
@flufftron2781 5 лет назад
Not overthrow just keep the diamonds happy by being adored constantly there focus would be on him would it not
@dexstars7307
@dexstars7307 5 лет назад
Do if bismuth was never poofed by ROSE 🌹!!!!🤣🤣🤣
@nesenda
@nesenda 5 лет назад
Gems dont poop (except maybe amethyst)
@krispy4119
@krispy4119 5 лет назад
H o l d u p
@geneticmutation382
@geneticmutation382 5 лет назад
I didn't know Bismuth got turned into poop
@dexstars7307
@dexstars7307 5 лет назад
nesenda sry typo 😂
@gatorcopter
@gatorcopter 5 лет назад
My opinion on the subject is, perhaps they don't deserve forgiveness. Maybe they do. It doesn't really matter. Regardless of whether you think they deserve to be forgiven or not, they're changing. Like Tom said, it's not necessarily the reason for them changing that matters, it's the fact that they're changing at all. They may not be doing it for the right reasons, but they're doing it. Take a look at Homeworld. It's changed drastically since CYM. In the end, they may or may not be deserving of forgiveness. It doesn't matter. They're genuinely making an attempt at changing their ways, and that's what we need to see.
@debodatta7398
@debodatta7398 5 лет назад
we should let out serial killers and rapists when they say they feel bad then I guess since their changing. Maybe they don't deserve forgiveness but at least their changing. Forget justice.
@LeviathanMusic1
@LeviathanMusic1 5 лет назад
@@debodatta7398 Serial killers don't have mind control powers, or the ability to control emotions, or the ability to shoot electricity out of their hands. When you're dealing with some of the most powerful creatures in the known universe you kinda have to take what you can get. This is the best situation they can get out of any alternative.
@gatorcopter
@gatorcopter 5 лет назад
@@debodatta7398 the difference is, the examples you gave are of people claiming to want to change. The diamonds didn't simply say they'd change, they followed through, and they took down their own empire. Their road to redemption is still not over, and it probably won't be for a long time. But it doesn't hurt to recognize that they are actively seeking to improve and fix their mistakes. It may only be to please Steven, but, hey, improvement is improvement.
@sharktenko267
@sharktenko267 5 лет назад
yeah no that doesnt work, they are genocidal maniacs thats like saying you forgive hitler for genociding the jews there are certine things that are unforgiveable
@gatorcopter
@gatorcopter 5 лет назад
@@sharktenko267 you're not getting the point. I'm not saying you should forgive them. I'm saying we can acknowledge and be happy about the improvements they've made. Homeworld is objectively better now than it was before, and that's what I think we should focus on, regardless of whether or not the Diamonds deserve to be forgiven.
@nowlwane9623
@nowlwane9623 5 лет назад
Steven: I think it would be good to reach out to all the saviors of the species that were killed. Diamonds: Like who? Steven: Umm...
@baraxor
@baraxor 5 лет назад
If Steven's entire focus is to be on Earth and assisting the former Crystal Gems adjust to life here, then the only business he needs to deal with concerning the Diamonds is making sure their collective attitude remains friendly towards him, and thus refrain from devastating this world. In such case, it matters nothing whether the Diamonds are "good" or "evil", only that they aren't trying to blast Earth. The rest of the universe will have to take care of itself. If his goal is to institute a complete reformation of Gem society, including halting Homeworld's imperial expansion, then he's going to have to divide his time between Earth and the cosmos, influencing the Diamonds and their instruments of power, and which may entail compromising some principles in the near term for success in the long run. Morally and practically, he can't hang around Beach City exclusively and expect currying much favor with anybody in the Gem Empire. Obviously, there are moral lines that I can't see Steven crossing...I'm sure he'll refuse to shatter a Gem execution-style, and I doubt that he'll contribute his essence for making better Gems if they're intended for the annexation and exploitation of other worlds. If Homeworld does run across a organic life-bearing world, Steven might well balk at cooperating with the Diamonds, so this could be one of the possible compromises he'd have to consider if he wants to make further gains with the Diamonds. Finally, every one of us makes a morally-compromising deal when we decide to purchase consumer electronics made in places like China, so I'd be wary of looking down on Steven when he maintains friendly relations with his "aunts", especially as this keeps Earth safe from deliberate destruction.
@matheuscarvalho9825
@matheuscarvalho9825 5 лет назад
I wise dragon once said this to me:"What is better-To be born good, or to overcome your evil nature through great effort?"
@sharktenko267
@sharktenko267 5 лет назад
the first one cause the second requires you be bad jn the first place what they did is unforgiveable
@yoshibts4180
@yoshibts4180 5 лет назад
Honestly, I feel like Yellow and Blue are redeemable. But, White Diamond, lmao she's probably scared of him. Pink Steven could've shattered her and she wouldn't be able to do a thing about it😹😹😹
@sutextpranks3306
@sutextpranks3306 5 лет назад
*_[k]_*
@sharktenko267
@sharktenko267 5 лет назад
yeah no all three are unredeemable
@kimoore2801
@kimoore2801 5 лет назад
shark Tenko irredeemable**
@miraculouseveraftersforeve91
@miraculouseveraftersforeve91 5 лет назад
@@sharktenko267 Exactly. They harmed many innocents and abused Pink but THEY get redemption?
@eabox2875
@eabox2875 5 лет назад
Diamonds are the parents who leave and come back when their offspring becomes rich.
@LeavanDragon
@LeavanDragon 5 лет назад
I don't think thats accurate....like at all.
@VKG1027
@VKG1027 5 лет назад
Not at all when pick was the ones who left them to live on there own
@LeavanDragon
@LeavanDragon 5 лет назад
@@VKG1027 Don't forget starting a war over a present they gave her that she asked for on top of millenia of spoiling. Tbh pink took alot of stuff for granted
@miraculouseveraftersforeve91
@miraculouseveraftersforeve91 5 лет назад
@@LeavanDragon They were Genocidal space killers, they abused Pink and she felt trapped.
@LeavanDragon
@LeavanDragon 5 лет назад
@@miraculouseveraftersforeve91 Yeah, because time out in a dark room for what's the equivalent of an hour to gems is abuse. Getting your own personal servants and playground is abuse. Having two loving parents who are willing to give you whatever you want, despite your obvious irresponsibility and anger issues. They encourage you to be a leader and put in the direction that will lead you to be successful. This is GENEROUS, especially given that the concept of children is foreign to gems. They raise you to be in your position, whereas if you had been unfit they would've cast you aside. You even have your own empire of loyal worshippers and warriors. They give you attention, let you watch them work ect. Once or twice you step out of line, but your never proofed or cracked. At worst put in timeout.
@starvingartist733
@starvingartist733 5 лет назад
I think Steven messed up by dismantling the empire and the army’s, but that’s just me.
@cobaltcyclic7490
@cobaltcyclic7490 5 лет назад
Blood for the blood god, skulls for the skull throne
@somenerdpng
@somenerdpng 5 лет назад
why?
@cthulhubecausewhynot1182
@cthulhubecausewhynot1182 5 лет назад
somenerdpng No actual defense.
@somenerdpng
@somenerdpng 5 лет назад
@@cthulhubecausewhynot1182 what?
@matti.8465
@matti.8465 5 лет назад
@@cthulhubecausewhynot1182 As far as we know there are no other intelligent forms of alien life, or any powerful enough to pose a threat to the gems. But it'd be an interesting thing to explore.
@otakuevolution2131
@otakuevolution2131 5 лет назад
I'd like to see Steven put in a difficult situation where he has to defend the Diamonds against their past wrongdoing, knowing what they did was wrong, but not wanting to abandon family. It would be a more mature route to go, to not ignore the elephant in the room.
@flufftron2781
@flufftron2781 5 лет назад
Yes ur very smart
@jjjjrrrr4353
@jjjjrrrr4353 5 лет назад
Otaku Evolution this show will never do that
@xenobestx8423
@xenobestx8423 5 лет назад
That’s right I heard the story over and over again.
@MystMelly_UwU
@MystMelly_UwU 5 лет назад
gee it's swell to finally meet her other friends
@PikaKip32
@PikaKip32 5 лет назад
Jeff the Killer Gaylord [Universal God] :p 2.0 that’s right I heard the story don’t really like how it ends
@MystMelly_UwU
@MystMelly_UwU 5 лет назад
@@PikaKip32 Gee its swell to finally meet her other friends
@drago22x
@drago22x 5 лет назад
Can you do a video about how the Gems are a race of cosmic viruses using a crystal matrix for their bodies? I think that the gems are viruses that once had biological hosts that they controlled. But since the hosts never lasted as long as they needed, they developed crystal matrix bodies that they could project their self identities through. And with the amount of energy that they put into the gems as they develope in the kindergartens, the viruses could probably last indefinitely, especially if they can regain that energy while staying still.
@maweebster8492
@maweebster8492 5 лет назад
the world needs people like you
@nickelplatenerd6989
@nickelplatenerd6989 5 лет назад
Well, I didn't think they really changed due to the announcement Steven was making when White Diamond was telling Yellow Pearl to cut the feed, and how they were all talking about what they stopped doing to other gems, that was when White said "And I've been saying please and thank you to lower life forms." Then Steven had to correct her on equal life forms.
@somenerdpng
@somenerdpng 5 лет назад
he literally said that in the video smart
@StareachValcin
@StareachValcin 5 лет назад
While Steven isn't obligated to help the diamonds, especially after the terrible things they've done, I do think that Steven should help the diamonds to be better people. Also, I do think that the diamonds are sorry for some of the terrible things they've done, especially when in regards to pink diamond (especially Blue Diamond). That's usually how redemption works. A person does terrible things, feels sorry for all or some of the terrible things that have been done, and try to make up for terrible things that have been done.
@sharktenko267
@sharktenko267 5 лет назад
hey no
@StareachValcin
@StareachValcin 5 лет назад
@@sharktenko267 if you disagree, that's fine.
@sandrahubbard447
@sandrahubbard447 5 лет назад
In this early for a diamonds video But 25 mins are good When I see SU I am first, not goddarn last, when I see prefect tasting content, I click hecka fast
@whomilloo
@whomilloo 5 лет назад
I’m in LOVE with the Diamonds!
@sutextpranks3306
@sutextpranks3306 5 лет назад
*_[i'm in love with my diamond.....]_*
@adventarchivist5789
@adventarchivist5789 5 лет назад
I don't know if Steven should take the role of a diamond. However, he should take some kind of ambassador or advisor role. If anything is going to change on homeworld (fusions, off colors, organics) then he needs to give some new directions that the diamonds aren't capable of.
@jasperKaiParker9421
@jasperKaiParker9421 5 лет назад
White: Judging anything by appearance is WrOnG Steven: .............
@claireaquos6532
@claireaquos6532 5 лет назад
Agree with that video. With that said, I still hope the diamonds will have to face some big consequence of their actions and that they will continue their character developpement.
@jjjjrrrr4353
@jjjjrrrr4353 5 лет назад
Claire Aquos Steven universe having shitty people actually earn redemption or face consequences ha good one best joke of 2019 so far
@dragonempress8367
@dragonempress8367 5 лет назад
@@jjjjrrrr4353 I don't think they're joking. That and diamonds being punished would be a hard thing to do... Unless Spinel goes besserk on them.
@jjjjrrrr4353
@jjjjrrrr4353 5 лет назад
Dragon empress the diamonds deserve to rot and don’t deserve redemption
@claireaquos6532
@claireaquos6532 5 лет назад
@@dragonempress8367 Well, when I said "Face the conséquences", I don't say they should punish them. I think more about how one of the problem they cause should comes back right at them and giving a hard task.
@sofig1237
@sofig1237 5 лет назад
You just said everything I've been thinking for so long! Thanks!
@triforceofcourage100
@triforceofcourage100 5 лет назад
You know when Steven dies(we all know he will there is not a human mind out there that can handle immortality) chances are they’re just gonna restart the empire (the diamonds have already grown bored after two years chances are they’ll fall back on the prime directive of empire building) so I honestly think it would be better if Steven truly teaches them the value of life then establish protocols for if they are gonna colonize a planet to pick one with no life on it like say random example Mercury also make sure there’s still some military chances are if there are other space-faring races at least a few will be hostile and won’t talk at all take the Starfleet approach have weapons for defense but never actively seek conflict but be better than Starfleet and continue active weapon r&d so that no technologically superior race can sneak up and destroy what remains of Homeworld
@matti.8465
@matti.8465 5 лет назад
I really don't think so, it seems like they find Steven's ways of handling things better (White's idea of what worked was completely destroyed in "Change your mind") and if he changed so much about the diamomds and gem society in two years, by the end of his life there'll surely be no going back.
@triforceofcourage100
@triforceofcourage100 5 лет назад
Matt I. You forget gems are immortal essentially and how do the immortal stay sane they busy themselves and how did they do that before empire building it’s what they did after whatever happened to the creators of gemkind what do expect all powerful near immortal beings to do with their time chances are after Steven goes they’re gonna collect pink Steven if he exists after Steven’s time is done and building small colonies on other planets wouldn’t be too harmful and again if they need to repopulate gemkind pick an uninhabited world and do so maybe they could be like the Federation in the future
@kevinhixson1586
@kevinhixson1586 5 лет назад
I think they need to incorporate an actual villain into the story a person that can't be redeemed with ideas perhaps an opposite Steven Now this next part is my own theory: a gem experiment perhaps a carbon or metal based gem iron pyrite or carbon quarts an opposite Steven he(yes he because he's opposite Steven and an experiment) instead of heal he can only destroy literally he would have something like whitebeards guru guru no mi(because Rebecca sugars favorite anime is one piece and she based a lot of spinels moves off of luffy) his weapon is a sword (based off lemongrabs sword) the diamonds can't effect him because he's not a gem and unlike Steven he can't fuse with any lifeform human or gem etc. He's skinny,pale, and has wavy silver hair, he is meant to be like thanos as in he has good ideas,reasons and believes what he is doing is wrong but believes he has to do it for the sake of the greater good, his ideas are similar to that of legalism,Confucianism and Taoist use because he would believe the diamonds and Steven have betrayed there roles as diamonds.
@Direwolf181
@Direwolf181 5 лет назад
@CD 2021 I don't think well ever see that interesting as it would be one of the biggest points in the show is that nobody is beyond redemption
@blakepeters4137
@blakepeters4137 5 лет назад
Please do what would have happened if connie never went to space camp in the movie?
@E2Gtube
@E2Gtube 5 лет назад
Me: *Watches one SU video* My reccomended: * I GOTCHU HOMIE*
@dizwizard7334
@dizwizard7334 5 лет назад
They're three of the most powerful gems in existence- He's gonna want them on their side. And they lost their sibling. They didn't want to lose their family again.
@sharkanenoa5928
@sharkanenoa5928 5 лет назад
Something tells me that this is going to be a TEMPORARY change
@thevexhex
@thevexhex 5 лет назад
Ok imma just say what everyone is thinking: *”WHERE DA HELL IS VOX??”*
@flufftron2781
@flufftron2781 5 лет назад
We are
@spongeson
@spongeson 5 лет назад
so beautifully put dude !! so so glad someone made a video on this
@justslice6871
@justslice6871 5 лет назад
Actually no because they still of some what way,like to do it how they did it before they only want a diamond on their side to conquer planets maybe the reason why they choose Spinel is because someway the can make he into a diamond,and she is also pink with a personality of Pink diamond and she is also fun and serious and not as begging like Pink is
@dimitrimepham6743
@dimitrimepham6743 5 лет назад
I'd say Blue and Yellow are his aunts and White is his grandmother.
@alanawaddell1320
@alanawaddell1320 5 лет назад
I haven’t been this early since Steven had no neck
@scottbruckner4653
@scottbruckner4653 5 лет назад
That's at least 8 months.
@grantlauzon5237
@grantlauzon5237 5 лет назад
1:45 “Change Your Mind” was rushed but I feel like an argument in its favor is “what are they supposed to do”? The gems can’t fight all of homeworld so asking for peace is the best case scenario. The Crystal Gems were an army of 8 soldiers. 8 Soldiers who aren’t Avengers. Trying to make peace with a Nazi Germany is fine if you’re a Poland. Not much else you can do.
@lagunitadukes2014
@lagunitadukes2014 5 лет назад
Wouldn't the diamonds technically be his aunts.
@ernovincze2900
@ernovincze2900 5 лет назад
Apparently White created Yellow, Blue and Pink, so White is his grandma and Yellow and Blue are his aunts.
@matti.8465
@matti.8465 5 лет назад
The allegory isn't much more specific than "family" Like, in Pink Diamond's story they are more allegory for parents.
@joeyfrost5248
@joeyfrost5248 5 лет назад
Honestly, I feel like Blue is genuinely trying to be better. Yellow is trying but not as much as Blue or it’s a little harder for her because she’s naturally kind of mean. White though? She’s just doing it to keep on Steven’s good side.
@AnimalAnimator
@AnimalAnimator 5 лет назад
*YES YOU CRYSTAL BOY*
@kingdmind
@kingdmind 5 лет назад
Vox - Theories Nemo - News Tom - Opinions
@keems2142
@keems2142 5 лет назад
No I want my badass diamonds back not the soft loving ones ew
@izzymcgee2527
@izzymcgee2527 5 лет назад
I'm still waiting to see if Steven's involvement has long-term consequences but I feel like the Diamonds' arcs were rushed as a whole. But maybe that's because their screen time is so limited.
@christopherbennett5858
@christopherbennett5858 5 лет назад
Well, a different type of villain could've been either gems that do want the diamonds to die and coerce Steven into helping them or gems that are demanding the old ways.
@izzymcgee2527
@izzymcgee2527 5 лет назад
@@christopherbennett5858 I can think of a handful of Homeworld Gems who might not be too thriiled with the Era 3 changes.
@christopherbennett5858
@christopherbennett5858 5 лет назад
@@izzymcgee2527 Instead, we get a pink Banette
@Skybound808
@Skybound808 5 лет назад
I hope blue gets a new form like a slit dress showing her feet
@SuupurSanicc
@SuupurSanicc 5 лет назад
T o e s
@videoxxstudio
@videoxxstudio 5 лет назад
If you want to look at stuff like that look up a fanart website they won't put "that stuff" in a kids show
@Skybound808
@Skybound808 5 лет назад
@@videoxxstudio the put steg in the move why not a kid friendly slit dress
@joseguzman9605
@joseguzman9605 5 лет назад
I think it was nice of how it was dealt with on the Change your mind episode, since at least the diamonds are trying slowly to change to be better people because of Steven's help, since he's the reason they're starting to better to their colonies in homeworld, how things are changing for the better too
@stevenuniversefanboy1801
@stevenuniversefanboy1801 5 лет назад
Last time I was this early, Steven was not a diamond.. 😂
@ryukiravenwing8530
@ryukiravenwing8530 5 лет назад
I think Steven HAS to help them change. Since they still need to find a way to support gem creation and Steven has nixed the "world destruction" path they have used for millenia (and the only way so far shown to create gems), they will need Steven to consult or they may fall back into their old ways in frustration. Speaking of gem creation, Pearl has commented that Gems are born with all their energy they will get, not infinite power. So EVENTUALLY they will die. It's been theorized that homeworld is having a power shortage (since later gems seem to have weaker powers and use enhancers) and that's why they colonize and destroy planets and were creating the gem shard experiments. So now that they are no longer colonizing/creating new gems and gem fashion actually subtracts from their overall population number (creating 1 from 2+ gems) how WILL they sustain their numbers? Have they just all accepted an eventual extintion? Are they still colonizing only uninhabited planets? Or is there a third (unheard of) way to create new gems?
@flufftron2781
@flufftron2781 5 лет назад
Steve needs to be with family
@OfficialNinjaSkillz
@OfficialNinjaSkillz 5 лет назад
SU is bad about forgiving villains
@jjjjrrrr4353
@jjjjrrrr4353 5 лет назад
Obsolete Excellence the show is bad about how it forgives villains but also on how it portrays certain situations
@ariane2809
@ariane2809 5 лет назад
You’ve brought up some very good points! I really liked that video!
@Petar_C
@Petar_C 5 лет назад
mi Srbi nismo toliko grozni ;_;
@thesailormercury2
@thesailormercury2 5 лет назад
i think the diamonds Authority should pay for there war crimes that also include the and not limited too some of of the crystal gems
@thesailormercury2
@thesailormercury2 5 лет назад
@steelhound duncan idk being they are super tall but they should pay for there crimes.
@drpencil7093
@drpencil7093 5 лет назад
Wait RU-vid isn't drunk? I view and 1 like?
@christinewhoyt
@christinewhoyt 5 лет назад
@@AndrewJpeg7 RU-vid is own by Google
@drpencil7093
@drpencil7093 5 лет назад
@@AndrewJpeg7 wait........uh oh
@ZXL000
@ZXL000 5 лет назад
I really enjoyed your video. It was nice, soothing, calming and explained everything that I was I am sure that other people wanted to say but couldn't put it into words. Thank you.
@DarkOps4
@DarkOps4 5 лет назад
And this all could’ve been avoided if change your mind wasn’t written so poorly
@xqzqcv7950
@xqzqcv7950 5 лет назад
It's great that Steven is repping Diamond colours on his new clothes. Quite wonderful
@tylergarcia8106
@tylergarcia8106 5 лет назад
grandmothers? maybe white diamond but blue and yellow are more like his aunts
@WizBunny3
@WizBunny3 5 лет назад
Should Steven Be Helping the Diamonds? Uh...Yes. He's a diamond. He may be called Steven now but he IS an ACTUAL DIAMOND.
@matti.8465
@matti.8465 5 лет назад
If he has the chance to change gem society into something better why wouldn't he take it? People really think Steven would go "No! You did bad things in the past so i'm not helping you make things right!"
@MonikaLover
@MonikaLover 5 лет назад
1 view and 62 likes Yep RU-vid drunk and high
@gachaoof2988
@gachaoof2988 5 лет назад
I believe RU-vid is on weed XD
@itsyourbestfriendspinel6738
@itsyourbestfriendspinel6738 5 лет назад
Drugh
@nhilz
@nhilz 5 лет назад
im living for this video, this is 100% how i feel about the issue. excellent analysis!!
@gachaoof2988
@gachaoof2988 5 лет назад
1 view and 15 comments *is RU-vid on weed again?*
@Skybound808
@Skybound808 5 лет назад
Nope crack cocaine and heroin and crystal meth
@itsmax9535
@itsmax9535 5 лет назад
imagine white diamond was acting to be so nice but was planning to get Pink back through other forms and because of that she helped spinel with the injector and rejuvinator so steven dies but stevens gem will be resetted to pink diamond through the rejuvinator
@itsmax9535
@itsmax9535 5 лет назад
and shed also keep it a secret from yellow and blue so they won´t attack her
@PhilCrownz
@PhilCrownz 5 лет назад
I thought the diamonds are Steven's sisters 6:11
@PhilCrownz
@PhilCrownz 5 лет назад
@Ari3ll 2 steven and pink are the same person
@PhilCrownz
@PhilCrownz 5 лет назад
@Ari3ll 2 yeah you're right
@carlosportillo573
@carlosportillo573 5 лет назад
Steven say he will visit them often on weekends to play seems nice
@flufftron2781
@flufftron2781 5 лет назад
Ok aslong as he do that it's fine but how abt spinel he did use her
@loregoblin3854
@loregoblin3854 5 лет назад
_uuuuuuuUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUGH._ this is a _PACING_ issue!!! Change Your Mind _was_ the point where everything went haywire with the story, and it _wasn't_ because the diamonds shouldn't have been redeemed... it was because they were redeemed _WAY TOO QUICKLY._ I am so sick and tired of seeing this issue framed as either "the diamonds should've been straight up evil and should never have been redeemed ever!" or "Steven Universe is fine the way it is and y'all are just salty that your headcanon didn't come true." the diamonds being redeemed is not necessarily an issue. the fact that White Diamond herself had like, one appearance before her redemption scene is a _HUGE_ issue. and yeah, I am a little disappointed that a lot of the diamonds' villainous clout seems to have been squandered! I think that the diamonds are an area where Steven Universe could've really gone ham on the villainous panache! god, like, just the wasted aesthetic potential with White Diamond alone has me grinding my teeth... that character had such good bones for villainy! she gave off the same vibe as the other mother from Coraline, like, the show could've really leaned into that and made her a big threat! _she didn't even get a creepy villain song. do you understand how cool that could've been?? she could've possessed a whole room and turned them into a CHOIR for god's sake!!! that could've been THE MOST EPIC SHIT EVER._ I friggin LOVE a good villain, okay? they up the tension in the plot by giving the characters a lot to do. a framework in which to express their values as they oppose the values of someone they disagree with. and because Steven Universe is so concerned with redeeming antagonists, having a really challenging antagonist is the show's _bread and butter._ this is what the show is _for._ I wanted Steven Universe to spend a decent amount of time with these heroes, and these villains, and the messy, difficult struggle to come to some sort of understanding. like, I've mentioned this in other comments on roundtable videos, but I personally would've loved it if Steven had only managed to redeem Blue at first. that would create a schism in homeworld's leadership, with the diamonds split, two and two. Pink and Blue would be advocating for more freedom of expression for the common gem, while Yellow and White would be intent on maintaining homeworld's strict policy of conformity. and Steven Universe is in the unique position of being able to pull that off in a medium aimed at kids. it could show how this complexity manifests in an easily understood narrative. and there would be so many stories to explore within the resulting situation! they could've explored what it would mean for a gem to "defect" from White and Yellow's side in order to join Pink and Blue. they could've shown Blue still having doubts about the side she's chosen, because she had spent so long operating as homeworld expected her to. they could've focused on how Blue is going through character development and getting closer to the people around her, while Yellow is becoming stagnant in her thinking, and White is as aloof and detached as she's ever been... they aren't united by anything more than a shared ideology. they even could've put emphasis on the fact that Steven is trying to change a society that has remained unchanged for a long time. change takes time, and change takes work, and Steven is willing to do it, but it is hard. he may have the ear of one diamond, but she became a rebel the moment she decided to step out of line, because the backbone of the system is a higher power than even her. and ultimately, affecting societal change might have to happen from the bottom up, rather than the top down. because the truth of the matter is, whether you're the highest of the high, or the lowest of the low, we are all equally thinking, feeling people, and that needs to be recognized. and if the leaders won't look down, then sometimes you do have to get their attention in an aggressive sort of way. sometimes you have to force them to see the people they should be empathizing with. anytime you have the basis for a good struggle like this, you will have tons and _tons_ of good material with which to create an interesting plot. _why throw that away??????_
@witheringlunatic
@witheringlunatic 5 лет назад
I agree so much with this comment. There was so much they could’ve done and instead they shortened it and made it simple. Like cmon. They could’ve done something else at least! But again I agree with you fully. Edit : I guess it’s all because they didn’t have enough money. But that’s no excuse
@loregoblin3854
@loregoblin3854 5 лет назад
@@witheringlunatic yeah, even if they had bumped things around so that the movie had the diamonds as villains instead of Spinel, that could've been better. I mean, don't get me wrong, I wouldn't want them to just never introduce Spinel, but they clearly have more planned for Steven Universe beyond this, and I think the diamonds deserved a full arc of direct conflict with the heroes. in a perfect scenario, I would've liked things to go the way they did in canon, right up until everyone got to homeworld. then I would've liked a few more episodes spent on homeworld, specifically so that we could get way more familiar with gem culture as it's been all this time. specifically, I would've liked an episode where Pearl shows Steven around homeworld. not only would this feature Pearl realizing that things are different from when she was last on homeworld, but it would also parallel the first time Pearl led Pink out to go explore Earth, and Pink decided over the course of the tour, that she really wanted to protect this place. if Steven decided the same about homeworld in a similar manner, things would really have come full circle, but the context provided by the entire show thus far would make it seem like Steven could be trusted to do things right this time. then things continue until Steven and Connie are imprisoned after fusing into Stevonnie. I probably would've orchestrated a more dire scenario to necessitate their fusion, just because it seemed pretty obvious that Stevonnie wouldn't go over well if they appeared, but either way, the result is the same. and when Steven decides to possess a watermelon Steven in order to call for backup, I think that watermelon Steven should've jumped into Lion's mane and gone straight to Lars. the resulting space pirate rescue would've not only been awesome, but it would've separated Steven from the diamonds while still leaving him in space, and among a group of both friends and rebels that would be a good starting point for the kind of revolution that the show really needed. have them go save the Crystal Gems and make it clear that Steven wasn't kidnapped, he went with them by choice, and he's actively rebelling against their leadership by choice. have them go recruit the Amethysts from the human zoo! have them go visit other locations around homeworld or its colonies... which we would've already seen because of the episode I mentioned a paragraph ago! also, all this exploring around homeworld would've been great for worldbuilding, casually introducing new kinds of gems as background characters, and introducing new and interesting gem locations, like how they had little places like the sea spire back on earth. that was some of my favorite stuff from the early parts of the show, and this could've been a great time to reintroduce that sense of wonder and exploration. then the show would've had all this nice room to breathe, and have B plots wherein the fusions we saw in Change Your Mind could be introduced in a plot relevant context. there's so much that could've been done...
@HellfireComms
@HellfireComms 5 лет назад
You're ignoring the fact that they were obviously pressured into ending things because CN hadn't renewed them in time.
@loregoblin3854
@loregoblin3854 5 лет назад
@@HellfireComms and you're ignoring the fact that a show can have reasons for having issues, but that doesn't mean that the issues aren't issues. I'm not saying that the crew is evil or ruined the show. I'm saying that if you wanna talk about what should've come out of the show from an ideal standpoint, this would've been the good shit. what we got very well might've been the result of tampering that was outside the control of the crewniverse, full acknowledgement there. and now that that's out of the way, see above. edit: also, I absolutely hate the way cartoon network has treated this show in general. it's one of the most popular ones they have, but they've consistently worked against it. cartoon network is obviously the reason for the steven bomb release schedule structure, and that butchered the pacing of a lot of the middle portion of the show already. at least with that, the show had decent rewatch value, because the pacing isn't a problem if you just watch one episode after another once they're archived. Change Your Mind is a much bigger problem because it actively truncated the narrative and really screwed over the plot's whole trajectory. now that the crewniverse knows they have more show to work with past the movie, they basically have to try and salvage something from this hyper abbreviated anticlimax. the situation just sucks, and I'm just observing that. also, even if the crew was told that they only had Change Your Mind and the movie to wrap up everything, I would've rather had them continue as if they were going to have another season right to the very end. I'd rather have a show that feels like it cuts off abruptly and doesn't have a proper end, rather than one with a shoddy canon ending that squanders all the potential of the setup. but that's just a personal preference and general opinion of mine, and expressing that thought does not mean that I expect anything from anyone. it's just the way I would've done it if I'd had any say in any of this, which I obviously didn't, so... * shrug *
@jimzle
@jimzle 5 лет назад
Change Your Mind is when Blue and Yellow begin wanting to change because they were miserable enforcing Homeworld ways. Blue realized she hurt Pink, Yellow realized she was unhappy, White realizes even she isn't perfect after finding she was off color. They each had a very meaty personal motivation to change outside of wanting to be close to Steven.
@xkervinzx-tn8vb
@xkervinzx-tn8vb 5 лет назад
Has anyone noticed that yellow diamond looks mean 😮😯🤔
@flufftron2781
@flufftron2781 5 лет назад
We aren't talking facial features stop judging the book by its cover numskull
@xkervinzx-tn8vb
@xkervinzx-tn8vb 5 лет назад
@@flufftron2781 I'm just saying my opinion 🤔
@roaringthunder115
@roaringthunder115 4 года назад
I can accept Blue....she’s been better than yellow and white
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