Hazbin Hotel vs Wish (How to Make an Animated Musical) 

It's true though. Hazbin hotel is so much better than honestly anything Disney can come up with...as long as their not taking from anime (Lion king, I love you but your Kimba in all but name).

I know about Keith David voicing the shadow man in Princess and the frog, but who are the other three you are referring to?

​@Passions5555 I know Stephanie Beatriz played Maribel in Encanto, Jeremy Jordan is Varian in the TV show of Rapunzel but I'm blanking on the 4th one..... Edit: sorry guys just now seeing the replies. Thank you for letting me know!! It's so awesome to see Broadway talent get the respect they deserve!! They can sing, act and voice act!!! Truly inspiring.

@@filmfangirls9163i still can’t believe it though because they’re both my favorite characters in their films and tv shows

I must admit it’s better than most disney made but during their golden age they was even better but they had got like 200millions budget and the other idk but surely less.the hunchback of notre dame has the greatest vilain music EVER and an amazing story that come form on of the greatest writers of 18th century but honestly I love hazbin hotel has much but a little bit more the hunchback of notre same but disney did really good movies but the fact it’s for kids sometimes make some things that could be amazing just good like fight battles generally their better in adult shows than kids ones

Disney is Vox and Alastor is everyone else lmao

Well yeah ofc, everyone knows that there's a brand new dawn

This is fucking perfect

@@Notdog610 mine as well turn the TV on

​@@THEPLAGUEBOI"welcome to the show"

“ITS BECAUSE HAZBIN HOTEL KILLED MY GRANDMA, OKAY?”

@@devill1095”my uncle broke his neck watching Helluva Boss once 😔”

​@@devill1095"how did hazbin hotel kill your grandma? What episode was she watching?"

@@Notdog610 “I was the one watching”

​@@thenyan3095And i need u now tonight🎵🎶

Respectless tops the existence of wish alone

Check your behaviorrr😭💅🏻

@@SegsyJackies NO ONE SPEAKS TO ZESTIAL THAT WAYYYYYYYYYY

@@RainCityWhispers Did you expect us

To sit back and take your insolent brazen DISPLAAAAYYY!!​@@MrHumannnn

Probably because the adult show is made by musical nerds and wish was made by people that just want there paycheck

I despise musicals as much as I despise romance films and romcoms, but clearly the true reason on why Hazbin Hotel is objectively better than WB Studios and Disney is because Viziepop puts true passion into her work@@juliaboskamp9666.

Even The Owl House is better than Disney.

@@multiverse_media2023 …while also being cancelled by Disney. It truly *is* better than them!

@@Kayta-Linda And better than Miraculous, a show that Disney is focusing on rather than all their other better shows like Big City Greens, Moon Girl and Hailey’s On It.

yeah that’s true.. (edit: if only if twitter & other social medias will listen to this type of message😑)

Like Sr. Pentious! He genuinely wanted to be redeemed. AND HE DID.

@@joshuagonzalez4183 It's honestly crazy how media literacy just absolutely fell off a cliff. Unless something is literally spelt out to people, it's impossible for them to pick up at all.

@@youtube-kit9450 IKR?!,they acting like viv just murdered their family or something,so I don’t get why ppl are still treating viv if she was the worst known person in the goddamn world even though there’s far worse ppl that are way more infamous than her!!..

I could legit make a shert of lyrics for Disney and Hazbin as Vox and Alastor

"Oh, Please!"

​@@PrOnZeL_Eyez23And here's the sugar on the cream; their voice actors have joined our team!

@@annaplaysandsings HELP- 😭

@@annaplaysandsings we said yes and now they're happy that's the tea

This. I feel that too many people are trying to be "smart" about it.

Also, I think it would be okay even in-universe if not everyone can be redeemed. It's a way to siphon off overpopulation, and it's not as if the exterminations wiped out every sinner either. Valentino and his ilk can stay in Hell and marinate in their bad vibes for as long as they like, but not every sinner is a Valentino.

​@@helenanilsson5666 that a good way to discribe it an di really like this video on hiw who knows abot the show flaws but he focuse on the storng part on why this is good and disney doing ummmm something wrong with the music and villain and hazbin hotel like it or not its still show how far they come .

But Vivziepop wants us to. She really wants us to see Hazbin Hotel as this magnum opus, when it really is not.

There is also the fact that to be redeemed the sinner must want to change. Alastor made it clear he is not interested, The Vees also dont care. Or other Overlords. Or even those that are alies like Cherry Bomb or Husk dont care for redemption. There are so many nuances with the redemption plot. And that makes it interesting.

Sir pentious was a better villain than magnefico 😭🙏

@@Fryingpan535true😢

​@@Fryingpan535Pentious is the best character in the show

Between Wish, Wonka, and Trolls 3 I'd say that Trolls 3 is as great as Hazbin Hotel@@Fryingpan535.

​@@thediam0nddrag0n78 Real

which song?

@@Misdrex stayed gone

Let's be fair, Alastor is the most terrifying thing in Hazbin Hotel. This guy strives to be at least disturbing in each of his appearances. If I had to compare him to a Disney villain, it would be Ratigan. Yes, I know, he's not the one we think of when we say "disney villain", but it's for a simple thing: Ratigan's motivation is to be evil. The first thing he does once announced as Prince Consor is to impose a tax on the elderly, children and the disabled. Alastor is the same: he loves being evil and savors every moment. Like the dentist in Little Shop of Horrors. Music here: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-YoWom0CCRKM.html Honestly, it's Alastor if he had become a dentist instead of a serial killer.

but Alastor is a villain. a great one, we can't even read their true intentions. we only know that he is bad and doesn't fears anything. he laughs at the face of the devil himself. literally.

I pirated Hazbin Hotel, not because I wanted to but because I wouldn't be able to watch it otherwise.

​@HuIsker_the_barkeep I just watched streams on yt it was awful lol

@@TheDarkKitten what was awful, the show or the streams?

@@Husker_the_barkeep the streams of course, because there were only some parts of the video and half covered I love the show

@@TheDarkKitten okay, I have been watching the videos to see RU-vidrs reactions to the show, but I watched normally myself.

They also seperated the “goofy villain” and “narcissistic villain” into 2 seperate characters, giving us 2 awesome villains with defined traits, as opposed to giving us one character with both traits but lots of inconsistency and a lack of actual villain behavior.

Bow now now now now guitar solo fuck yeah!

@@fnafguy809HELL IS FOREVER WHETHER YOU LIKE IT OR NOT

@@Bossi623 Had their chance to behave better now they boil in the pot

@@fnafguy809CAUSE THE RULES ARE BLACK AND WHITE THERE’S MO USE IN TRYNA FIGHT IT

Exactly. Because nowadays, the disney protagonists have to have NOOO flaws and always be in the right so they can be more “likable” but flaws in heros make them more human and relatable, which is why people like them so much An example is Charlie’s sheltered nature, which is why she didn’t understand that not everyone can be redeemed. That’s just my take though.

Asha developed a T to the no matter after the entire movie.

Actually, it’s because of one reason and one reason only that Asha’s belief never changes. It’s because Disney wants to show these fake fantasies to minors so it sells. It’s all for marketing. Just put an unrealistic magical scenario and make the world look like the best place to ever exist, then boom. It sells. And it sells big time. Disney doesn’t give a damn to what the kids learn. Like most/all companies in the world, all they’re out for is money.

i like the hotel. charlie reminds me of chidi the good place

This is why I love episode 4 of Hazbin, not only does it prove that Charlie was right that someone like Angel deserves a second chance. But, Charlie’s interactions with Valentino makes her realize that some people aren’t worthy of forgiveness

Ironic right.

Lmao yeah

And some how it makes the movie even wrose is this song is the best one .

I've been praising Hazbin Hotel since the original pilot episode.

I was a person who didn't like it at first not like those dumb twitter stands but just didn't find interesting and made dumb jokes to my sister but she was was always interested in it even when the pilot came out and when it came on prime she was excited and on that day i came in her room behind her while watching and i just decided to give it a watch now i like it the plot, the charcters, and of course the songs so yeah that's what happened and now she has me and our mother hook on both helluva boss and hazbin hotel

@@Matthewgaming20 I wasn't into it originally either, but my brother was a huge fan. I'd watched the pilot and it wasn't my cup of tea, probably due to me being uncomfortable with the themes of the show at the time. But now I can appreciate them much more. Sad that other people just wanna hate on this show though

It’s flawed and I enjoy critiquing it with other fans, but its good far outweighs its bad in my opinion and I found it to be a very enjoyable series!

It definitely has major flaws but the characters ,Animation, and songs more than made up for it.

Was going to ask about jeremy before remembering vivan. XD I mostly think of his death note songs though i love his vivan songs too.

​@@MysticMae21lol vivan?

@@mocha-the-froggi I think that's his name. From tangled adventures

@@MysticMae21 wasn't his name varian lol

@@mocha-the-froggi maybe? I never watched the show, just the songs. I got close either way. XD

Actually hadn't considered that. Great observation!

Except from Charlie. He's definitely hiding his true motives from her.

@@hanyoukimura He hides his intentions but it's not like he conceals his evil tendencies and violence from her. Pentious and the Loan Sharks that were after Mimzy can attest to that. That's what I meant when I wrote that he manipulates people but doesn't hide his evil nature

@@TheDJdragonflame that's true.

true! SO GOOD!!

If what they did with Hercules it would have been fine.

It's the money. Thet wanted a song that could hit the charts like how successful 'let it go' and 'we don't talk about bruno' are. But what Disney failed to see is that broadway songs are literally charts-worthy just like what happened with the greatest showman

And most of Disney's music from the renaissance era. They're all broadway-written music. @@BelleRebato

hey I’m the 666th like lol

@@BelleRebato Even worse is that such a decision would imply the higher-ups only see the Robert & Kristin Lopez's and Lin-Manuel Miranda's work as "pop music," when both have worked on quite good Broadway musicals (The Book of Mormon for the former, Hamilton for the latter). Like, that's just insulting to their own composers for thinking there's not a difference in skillset between the two kinds of songwriting.

God I listen to that song when I sleep at night.

Look like you could need some help.

Hell forever whatever you like it or not! _guitar soled_

Hell's Greatest Dad is basically a song duet of Genie vs Dr. Facilier in style. Even Alastor's colors during the song are bright pinks, purples and greens!

@@Kitsunekone Yeah, the guy playing Lucifer is clearly doing a Robin Williams impression and I think he killed it.

For real

Same

Sad but true. 100% true.

Wish had genuinely good ideas at first, but yeah executives forced them to make changes for the worst.

Yeah, its unfortunate but true 😢

@@brandonlyon730 I know. We could have had the Disney equivalent to Team Rocket, but instead all we got was another half-baked strawman for a villain.

he said hazbin hotel isnt trash. Funniest thing I've seen this year

True

Omg I didn't even notice that, the more I learn about Hazbin the more fantastic it is. A shame it only got so little episodes for season 1 and had to be rushed

Also the detail that Vox speaks faster than Alastor, who speaks slowly and clearly, because in TV people can afford speaking quicker than radio hosts.

Also they were only given three weeks and weren’t shown the script or movie. They just got a vague description of what is happening, which explains why none of the songs have any meaning and they all sound rushed

@@kingseawolf1013 wait whered you get this info from? im curious

Plus, most of the Hazbin hotel voice actors were in musicals!

​@@kingseawolf1013 wait where did you learn this?

@@ouuma ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-7E2SJp1XmTc.htmlsi=YVIlFSwfBw2zwphj

vivzie deadpool'd disney

It’s Disney meets Deadpool.

Charlie was literally 95% Disney Princess, just she was allowed to swear :P

@@regiman222 True.

And ironically Charlie felt more like thrice the authentic Disney princess than the so-called "princess" of Wish.

Yes, Angel Dust is pop music, Alastor is classic jazz, Husk is soul jazz, Vaggie is rock ballad, Carmilla is flamenco, Pentious is ballad(?), Velvette is pop rap/modern hip hop, Lute can be rock as well but her style is more like Evanescence which is gothic metal, and Lucifer is Tin Pan Alley/ballad.

Not just rock. But Christian rock

not really, sort of the opposite seeing as adam would certainly not be getting into heaven if he was just a regular human and not THE man

@@OL3THR0S I’m actually pretty sure it got on top 10 or something on Christian Rock somehow 💀

Yeah, it would be extremely interesting, but sadly, modern Disney decided that women can not be evil

​@@TheBLBrothersso I guess u haven't watch obi one,the marvels,wandavision, doctor strange 2. All those movies and shows suck but they all still show women being villans.

​@@TheBLBrothers don't forget Asha was going to have a romantic interest with a magical boy, but Disney decided that love means weak women...

@@elenadominguez4517 Even Ursula in the little mermaid live action remake was allowed to remain evil despite all the attempts to downplay the evil with other Disney villains in the live action remakes. I may not be a fan of the little mermaid remake (and this is from someone who is usually more fair with some of the remakes) but it’s refreshing Ursula was allowed to remain hammy evil like in the original.

@@CixzagI call dat B freaking S. Elemental has a love story and it was cute. And Hazbin hotel has romance in it too.

It’s kinda both. In a way it’s displaying his personality while also connecting to the story

Yeah it was originally meant for around 16 episodes but Amazon cut it down to 8

​@@gustavofring5674that is a bit of a bummer

​@@gustavofring5674 8 episodes are way too short for a season 1 or a series

@@gustavofring5674 considering how it's been a blowout hit for Amazon, hopefully it'll mean season 2 will have more episodes.

Well, if you'd like to know it was confirmed to have a season 2.

Hey at least the demons and Charlie’s friends are far more interesting than people of Rosa and generic seven dwarves.

@@Muna-Jlore0997 Facts.

Or… do not alienate your fans. For the longest time, Disney was the “conservative” one of the 3 major cartoon/kids channels. Cartoon Network and Nickelodeon would allow swear words on occasion, but Disney was supposed to be the most conservative of the 3. Also, they got too big for their britches and decided to deviate from their roots (cartoons with clear, black and white morals).

@@ArtemisRahl15 That too.

I'd say Hazbin Hotel has pretty accepted morals about redemption and if you look over the swearings and violence, its message is to me very consensual. The form is what makes it interesting and new but the message is overplayed. You don't need to go on trying to "trigger" anyone to get attention, you just need to make something worth watching.

They would tho, that sounds like something they would do

That seems like something they would do tbh- Disney is so desperate at this point

Ohh!! That makes sense, and Wish is the early april fools joke right?

Totally agree. The reason no one likes Asha as a character coz she has no personality or flaws. The only personality that Asha has is her quirkiness. And her other flaw that “she cares too much.” Yeah sure Charlie does the same thing but it’s not annoying.

Right, I agree. My only issue with Charlie is that the show (and herself) both try to imply and *actively say* it is Charlie's destiny to be the leader of hell. Which it is, in a nepotistic take, but I found embarrassing that the MC proclaimed it was their role to be leaders when never did they show the ability to lead (literally every character got comforted by someone else) and didn't even learn anything to truly lead. Cannibal Town didn't even count because it wasn't about Charlie learning to convince people, but actually trying the same proved mostly useless singing method that "It never works" "But it'll work here", which is the only reinforcement that it is her destiny to lead others... Felt quite off that the season ended like that, but Charlie still has a lot of room to learn more things through next seasons while Asha will never learn anything.

@@Anonymous__S I think part of what makes Charlie's situation work though is that she clearly *isn't* ready to be a leader by S1's end. I saw the last two episodes as more building the foundations with her realizing and accepting that she's been forced into a leadership role (ready or not). Rallying Cannibal Town behind her is more a lesson of self-confidence and accepting responsibility than learning to lead or persuade. Corny as it is, both are fundamental to good leadership.

i think she sees in NOT in black and white

Yeah. Charlie is a woman with naive soul and doesn't understand her true strength. During the S1, the reality caught up to her; she has been forced awake from the cute protected sunlit garden. Now, she has to walk the path with mud puddles, broken glasses and deadly traps, on her own feet, if she wants to continue her dream. She's finally standing on the doorway of becoming a true powerful leader. But I don't see anything like this is Asha, she does now grow up. Rather, her childish motives are enhansed by the Star and are used like a puppet. You can see it the most when the Star comes down. It's really scary. The event at the Cannibal Town was, I think, done to teach her that people are different and require different ways to reach. Her singing didn't work for others, so she gave it up altogether. But Madam knew the residents likes singing ...impling that Charlie is careless about gathering information, the very first thing you need to do to convince someone. She kinda learned this with Angel but are still less careful and still isn't as much as she should be. Maybe it will come back to haunt her in later seasons hehehe. Also agree on the "lesson of self-confidence and accepting responsibility" part. She's a princess of hell, she's been saying that and she wants to act like it. So she needs to act like one when the time comes, and her preference won't matter then. The worst part of her is that she sees everything in rainbows with a twist of unicorns and candy rains. But in any case, very good show. I wish Alastor would step on me.

Yeah. In constrast I heard about someone called to contribute to a Helluva Boss episode. They managed to write and PERFORM their own song! I wonder what the backstory behind that is.....

​@@DrawciaGleam02 tom cardy? I know he wrote + sang one of the short songs in s2e7

@@somedragonbastard Yes!!! That's him! I hope we get the backstory of writing that song someday! It'd be nice to compare it to the stories of the Wish songwriters!

@@DrawciaGleam02 if you haven't, I recommend checking out his other songs, hes on youtube and his stuff is really good

How does that explain all the other bad songs Julia wrote in her career?

How tf he has tongue on his screen like it's flat right? 💀

@@Ka1r014don’t ask, we probably won’t get an answer

@@michaelmccauleyforkids9795 I'm not asking, I'm just saying

@@Ka1r014 there is a ? And ?’s indicate questions. Plain and simple

@@michaelmccauleyforkids9795 womp womp

It was hilarious too

@@user-pc8sv2vl5fand one is just more competent for roasting people

same, cuz apparently it worked

Yes sir glory to the RU-vid algorithm 🫡

*Comments*

real

Yes :)

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Wanna know the funny part? IT STARTS WITH SORRY ISN'T EVEN THE BEST SOMG IN THE SHOW!!! there have been many places where the songs were ranked, it starts with sorry usually doesn't even get that high of a ranking, yet it still tells the story perfectly for someone who hasn't even watched the show yet GODDAMN!!! And then there's wish...

It Starts With Sorry is hella underrated, I'm glad to see it's getting some love!

@@anonymoose6703 true 👍

That’s the best kind of musical (where the songs move the plot along) and I think the ones that AREN’T like that are the ones that make ppl say they hate musicals. Where they STOP the story so the characters can sing about something happening right in front of them that the audience already knows. And the song has no important character moments/new info in it, just a rehash of everything we already know which makes the audience wish they’d just shut up and keep going. It’s like if someone was reading you a book and every time you got to a good part they closed the book and made you listen to a 3 minute song before continuing

i'm gonna be honest you nailed it on the head with your descriptions. that's exactly what's happening, and you're correct

Same!

Right?! ❤

Same. *HAZBIN FOREVER*

Dude, I couldn’t even past the opening scene of wish. It was so boring. So yeah I have hazbin hotel playlist too. One in Eng and Japanese.

Ironically series what has best villain songs today is My Little Pony Friendship is Magic. And I'm serious! This series is loaded with amazing villain songs, but tend to go under radar due to expectations. This Day Aria Say Goodbye to the Holiday Open Up Your Eyes Under Our Spell Unleash The Magic We Will Stand For Everfree The Midnight In Me All are top tier stuff!

​@@TheRezroeven tho g5 sucks its best songs and those that are actually good are also villain songs Generally don't understand how this is the thanks I get screwed up

@@meriewanderer I just point out that there is a reason why best stuff is in side series. Where Hasbro was not interfering with creators.

Haven't tought about that! Very interesting.

and 'Into the Woods'.

"Be careful what you wish for" has been a common proverb for a long long time. The full phrase is "Be careful what you wish for because you just might get it", meaning that our immediate desires may not be what's best for us.

Disney literally did the opposite of what they’re doing.

Man it is sad that Coraline has the same tag line of that mid movie.

That's the point.

46 seconds and this comment ALREADY GOT A LIKE?!?

Another undertale fan here. Love this!

Merg could do it.

Suddenly I'm reminded of that guy who beat Hollow Knight blindfolded

The muscle memory gained from that experience will turn you into Frisk.

I would say that most of the characters have their own style in their songs. Like jazz for Alastor, slut pop for Angel, disney princess songs for charlie, rock for Adam etc.

@@miafiolekova5817Wtf is slut pop?

​@miafiolekova5817 I like how each song fits the characters' personality and how they portrays it. It's honestly a great show with really good music.

Happy Day in Hell reminds of me of Belle. Disney couldn’t do that.

@@miafiolekova5817 today I learned that “slut pop” is a musical genre

The only song I remembered in wish is At All Cost. It’s a love song. They couldn’t even allow that.

The only songs on the soundtrack that I liked enough to buy on iTunes are “This Is the Thanks I Get?!” and “At All Costs”.

​@@Muna-Jlore0997 and the sad thing is that Hazbin still tops that with More Than Anything. Used in two types of love songs. First is between father and daughter. And later between a couple. Wish used it with people and their own wishes.

It's always the "upstarts" who do experimental stuff. Like walt disney himself. But the legacy, when it settles often become stagnant.

I have full respect for indie animation. There are so many good ones: Murder drones Helluva boss The amazing digital circus Ramshackle And more. Corporate companies…………😑😑😑😑😑

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Yea

More like val is licking his screen.

@@spongyafiu2138 😂 lol

Yes, yes it is

Yeah despite some flaws with her shows she shows passion with her work which is what I love about her shows

👍🏻✨

Vivzie has my full respect. 😄👍 Disney…. 😑😑 what about them??

I cannot stand live action movies. There is no heart in to it. Almost every live action is basically the same plot: girl boss trope. Bland villain story and so much more. And making wish may be their wasteful potential.

AI can only do what it is programmed to, humans have boundless creativity

I’m a huge fan of musical broadways. Wish on the other hand… why?? Yes, there are a few modern pop music in Hazbin hotel but it’s not out of place.

I feel sorry for the song writer. They didn't even let her see the movie beforehand and now all the internet is laughing at her. Yes the songs are hot garbage but what potential she might have had to make them better, disney took away

Amazon Prime is also beating Disney plus viewership sales too, so clearly the only way for Disney to remain on top in this world is by having their IPS in the public domain already.

“Furry-influenced edgelord cartoon” Sounds about right

Somehow Hell being a furry convention on steroids sounds about right lmao

@@TheCatslockdon’t forget the edge lord factor

Now that you bring it up, it becomes the perfect way to properly put a nod to Robin Williams, who was a great Comedian, Singer, Actor and VA around. And a stand-up guy even at the end.

@@BrokensoulRiderTen years later, and Robin Williams’ death still hurts.

Robin Williams must be very proud.

She is Asha, i like magnifico more

Asha has no personality or flaws. Her being quirky doesn’t make her any less of a character. Sure Charlie has the same trait but not annoying.

Luffy training with giant bears lions, tigers, and apes had way more intense natural scenes than Wish too.

If you want a tip for a good adult animation i would check out The legend of Vox Machina. That is a good one.

honestly, it makes a lot of sense for them to be so good. Because the living tombstone write most of them

@@Someduudeit’s honestly weird how they went from oh we just a channel who makes fan songs for games to we are known throughout the world because of our banger songs and we got a song into a theatrical release and we got hired by Amazon to write songs for their new show

My boyfriend saw it and thought I would like it, and I was like 'eeeeeeeh, a musical?' But I did watch it and I absolutely loved it - its got characters, story telling, and pulls on actual mythologies- and real villians/antagonists. Plus I just love 2D animation 😍

I play Stayed Gone to start my work day. It really helps.

Exactly! Also, Hazbin has big names on it but they dont use it as a pushing point to get people to watch. It's more of a "holy shit i recognize that voice" when watching

@@Si1vercherryIt's the same as with Hazbin's sister animation Helluva Boss. As the series has progressed the production value has gone steadily up and they don't skimp on the voice actors. The season 1 finale had to be delayed quite a while because Ke$ha was voicing Beelzebub. The season two mid-season musical has several songs, one of them is a love song between Alex Brightman (Beetlejuice from Beetlejuice the musical) and James Monroe Iglehart (who played Genie in the Broadway production of Aladdin). It's absolutely delightful.

@@helenanilsson5666 yup! Alex Brightman is definitely one of my favorite stage/voice actors

its me,im the middle school kid

⁠@@helenanilsson5666 Alex Brightman is also the voice of Adam in HH