Should The Maple Leafs Have Kept Zach Hyman? | SDP 

Zach Hyman scored more playoff goals than the Leafs combined in their series loss to Boston.

Nothing can salvage this Titanic but a Cup win and Marner winning the Conn Smythe. There’s a better chance of the actual Titanic uncrumpling off the ocean floor, floating back to the surface intact, firing up its engines and cruising into New York harbor full steam ahead.

I was pissed off when the Leafs let Hyman go. He is clearly a gem

Well run Atlantic teams like Boston, Florida and Tampa would like nothing more than the leafs to keep this core together. It’s a free playoff series win

I honestly thought Adam meant 1920-1921 season instead of the 2019 to 2021 season without even questioning it in my head at first lol

Part of the reason Hyman's numbers look so good now is because he's on a line with the most offensively-talented player in the world, and on the powerplay with arguably the two most offensively-talented players in the world. His production wouldn't have been the same in Toronto.

I will die on the hill that he would not be this good if he was still a Leaf.

There only one answer to this question. The answer is YES!!!

@3:04 100% WRONG! me and my friends knew Hyman was amazing. Even when the numbers weren't there we would constantly see his effort and when we talk leafs we would all agree Hyman was one of our best players for his hustle and down low play. We were so excited about his future.

Steve, here's the reason.... they don't have a choice. Marner wants to be a leaf, his agent knows what he's getting in free agency and Marner is consistent enough to bet on himself

As a Knights fan this is like when Columbus gave Vegas William Karlsson and after he had a 40+ goal season, everyone insisted Vegas was just handed nothing but 2nd line players 😂😂. Karlssonshad 9 goals his last year in Columbus and was a 2rd-4th liner and now we are going to act like management should have just known better.

Losing Hyman, at the time, wasn't like losing Matthews. Hyman's track record in the playoffs with the Leafs was 1 goal in each of the series they played. Now, he didn't get Power Play time, but he did play with Matthews and Marner. Playing on the Oilers power play was a godsend for Hyman because you could have put any big body there with good hands and they would have probably contributed in a similar manner. Not saying he hasn't scored some great goals, but a bail of hay in front of the net will get points on the Oiler PP. Hindsight is perfect, as always, and while I know that Hyman is a good player, I doubt that his performance with the Leafs would have been a mirror image of his performance with the Oilers.

Looking over Hyman’s stats got me thinking. Screw the leafs ! Go watch your local OHL team. Make a whole weekend of it if you have to travel a bit and get a motel with the boys and hit up a bar afterwards. Get that steak dinner. After it’s all said and done it’ll still be cheaper than a pair of leaf tickets. Toss in a jersey while you’re at it 👍

Hyman will never match this season again. Oilers wasted it.

As for Hyman, he wouldn't score like this without McDavid. Bunting could probably score 50 next to McDavid too.

The Leafs are almost like the Jets in the regular season, except the Jets have a slightly better post season record

How much of anything they all said in this video will be remembered when the new season starts and the Leafs go 5-1-1 to start the season? How much of it will be remembered when they lose again in the first Round? What will be remembered?

Yes, and if they re-sign Marner, that's going to ruin the team and its chance to get another Hyman.

Hyman had a great year but there are a lot of years left on it so I would say that is yet to be determined. He had bad knees and was asking for a lot of money and term at the time and he is already in his 30's.

You forgot to mention that Dubas also, out of spite, didn't even accept a draft pick back from the Oilers to add a year to the deal. This didn't keep Hyman a Leaf. It doesn't benefit the Leafs, who can't see the Oilers unless in a cup final. It also told all current and potential players that the Leafs will hold a grudge, and will take money from the player if it is possible for them to do so. A lot of spite towards a player everybody seems to love. Might not have gone over well in the Leafs room either.

I just want to see Leaf fans after losing a game 7 in a Stanley Cup final. I'm betting it would look like a lot like Vancouver. Don't regret losing a guy that just went through that. Your fan base couldn't handle it

Meanwhile Hyman was a brat in FLA, but we skip that part huh?

I'm so happy Steve is finally being a voice of reason within Leafs Nation. I can't tell you how insufferable it was to hear "This is our year" every year when you had won nothing, every year...

Unpopular opinion but what if the Leaf's just re-sign Marner and then just tank for 1-2 seasons to bolster their D. you leave the forward core (which is great in my opinion). Tavares comes off the books or re-signes for a lower AAV and you have the freedom to add to the team after that point. Another thing to note is that the Leaf's are in a division that has had 7 teams make it to the finals in the last 6 years. it's easily the toughest division so maybe waiting would reduce the stress from the division.

For many of us the '93 season was the LAST season we actually cared... so a parade was just fine. Try that nowadays and I guarantee I've got some rotten eggs with the words ''core 4'' written on them. :)

Look at all the recent past leafs finding succes. How many times have recents leafs been mentioned in the stanley cup final.

I agree with Steve I'm hoping my team the Bruins are in for more big changes this week 😊

I’ve been a leaf fan since 1982. I’ve only watched playoff games for the last 10ish years. I don’t care about the regular season at all anymore. I watched 7 games this year. Much less waste of time.

The issue wasn't that we didn't want to sign him or even pay him at that AAV, it was the 7 year term that we rightfully didn't want to do.

Things might get better in the next couple years, now that the Kid with the Credit Card is gone. Mariner and Tavares off the books. 20 mil should add some playoff performers. Hey!!!! maybe Kadri and Hyman could come back.

Year after, next level

Lmao letting Zach Hyman go is unrecoverable? Let's stop with the hyperbole, they didn't trade away Gretzky. None of the post-Hyman years go any differently if he's still on the team.

Hindsight Is great! I always loved Hyman's game. And still do. But at the time his new contract seemed expensive. Obviously I wish he was In To. now but enough Is enough...stop. And playing with McDavid does not hurt either.

Yes

It was down to two contracts, Nylander or Hyman and dubas/shanahan always chose wrong.

I literally was pissed when they let Zach Hyman go...but guess who did it and is no longer with the team besides Zach...all the best to the Penguins lol... 😉

It’s easy to say with hindsight that the leafs should have kept Hyman but shortly after he left, leafs fans were happy to save the 5 million and bunting was covering his spot fine enough. No one thought Hyman would be a 50 goal scorer

No. It's not like he would have scored 50 for the Leafs. If he had gone anywhere else but Edmonton, you wouldn't be asking this question because you wouldn't care about him.

What is it that pro scouts get paid to do? Is it not try to find hidden value in professional hockey players? Maybe none if us could see this happen, but if your own pro scouting department couldn't see this coming I'm not sure why they have a job

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It's the Sparks vs McIlhenny situation again

But, mathews will mcdavid the leafs... I think this next season they are conference if not cup final.

No. Hyman would not be getting as many goals with selfish players like Matthews and Nylander on the team. Hyman's a great fit on the Oilers. Hopefully his level of play and health can keep up with his contract though.

Trading Connor Brown was a mistake, too!

I don’t get it. The reason the leafs lost these players is because they signed John Tavares. Don’t understand how you guys never bring that up, it’s mind boggling to me. We signed J.T. for 11 million and we did not need him. Did you think after that the other players would take less? What has J.T. done for this team? You guys keep calling out mitch? Austin 13.5 million has never scored in a game 7 and anybody who plays on JT’s line slumps. The J.T. signing destroyed this team. You guys have a weird crush on J.T. and Auston.

Why should they have kept him? Hyman hasn't won anything either... What kind of question is this??? Of course keeping Hyman would've been the right move.

Yes. Yes, they should have.

Zach got 70 goals because he plays with McDavid and Leon. Leafs have a 50+ goal scorer

Yet it will be the Nylander contract that they will end up regretting.

of course they regret. they did not predict the future. leafs have done poorly on this with a lot of players. but they also can not afford to give pay increases to decent players.

They should have kept Kadri too. Skip Tavares, name Kadri captain and build around the core of young guys who are all still not even 27. Signing Tavares, trading Kadri and giving RFAs whatever they wanted ruined the window.

Leafs just can't use their assets. Kadri? Won with Colorado. Kessel? Won with Pittsburgh. Hyman? Nearly won with Edmonton. Toronto has had so many good pieces and cannot find success.

Yes next

Is that a question of course they did.

Never should have signed JT. You keep Kadri as 2C. You resign Hyman with the savings. The team would be much stronger

No... no they should not have... wait a year or so, his contract is going to be an albatross...

babcock loved hyman

This was a delusional move by Dubas, $5 M for Zach Hyman is too expensive but he kept Alex Kerfoot at $3.5 M? Make it make sense, that's all I ask.

When Don’t the Leafs screw up? But he would have never scored 50 in Toronto.

..a decade of wastimg prospects and picks to maintain a "core" that cannot win....this group will struggle to make the post season....

its easy to look back and say its a mistake, however no team should give that deal to the next zach hyman

Really.. took this long to realise that?

Is this a trick question.....?

Conor Brown was such a huge loss.

Oh let it go already. I don’t care about Hyman. He had one great year. He is what now in his 30’s? Enough. Don’t care. People seem to be oblivious to the fact that because Oilers are in a crappy division and got to play 3rd string and backup goalies not vezina candidates it’s easier to score in post season. It’s almost like people are too dense to understand Hyman wouldn’t have scored at will against top defensive teams. Kind of what happened against Florida where he had one single goal? And by the way McDavid was invisible for most of the FLA series as well. Florida had two garbage games but when they played their best McDavid was totally ineffective and Marner-like in his impact. I watched the games he had almost no impact on the outcome in games 1-3 or final games where the outcome actually mattered. When the series was on the line the Oilers offense was non existent. Kind of what the Leafs have to deal with every year when they play against elite playoff defensive teams. Oilers had no business winning this series but Florida took their foot off the gas. They were outscored 11-4 games 1-3 where the series was decided. I was not surprised at all FLA won game 7. They just had to play their A game.

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*sigh* let's put this to the rest, Toronto fans... and this is coming from an outside perspective to three different clubs that will be mentioned... and for two different players. It would have changed *NOTHING* had you kept Hyman in Toronto. He didn't magically turn into a frickin gem as soon as he went out the door. Playing with McDavid will make ANY player look better than he actually is. Not saying Hyman is a bad player, far from it. But, oh dear Toronto fans, you want me to pull another name? Tuukka FRIGGIN Rask. You see that guy as such a mistake of a trade given how he's performed in Boston. We're talking here about the single most overrated goaltender of the cap era, BTW. His best days in Boston was when the Bruins were a defensive juggernaut on the blue line; ANY goaltender would have pulled it off by then. Had Rask stayed in Toronto, it wouldn't have changed a thing either! So with that said, let me reassure you in a sense: the day Marner gets traded and becomes a world beater elsewhere in the league, don't even DARE treat it as a mistake. It is what it is.

They need a goalie in the net.

They messed up when they signed jt

Leafs screwed up by not landing Ullmark.. even if for 1 season

Definitely should have kept Hyman.

Alex Edler the goat

Yes because Marner could've set him up like McDavid did

This is so tired.

No. They wanted Tavares instead...

im not a hockey fan, im a leafs fan lol

You can have hyman What did he do in the game that mattered most NOTHING Without McDavid he simply stinks and always will

Kindly reply please

No they couldn't win with Hyman at that time.

Steve dangle makes me not want to get a tattoo

Also you will never win with Auston, he is soft example(he hangs out with just breiber) wow! He is selfish cared mor about 79 than he did getting ready for playoffs. He is as soft as a soup sandwich. He is a regular season stat collector. How can’t you guys see that??? Auston and Willy equals never making the playoffs never mind first round

Sometime you get out of the first round with some puck luck. Nylander nearly carried the Leafs to the second round 10 seconds before Boston won. You cannot keep everyone. Both the Oilers and Panthers will lose players to free agency this summer because of the cap. I think we have a Bettman curse. As long as he is involved with the NHL a Canadian team won't win a cup. So lets hope he finally retires soon. If I were Treliving I would try to pry Crosby out of Pittsburgh or Cellebrini from the Sharks by offering Marner.

Anybody saying "Trade Marner" forgets the 30 years we wanted a player like Marner. And for 93, you had to be there... it wasn't a championship parade it was to celebrate that team that finally gave us a run after the Ballard years.

Who cares he is gone.

I hate the Leafs and I called it ffs 😂🤦🏻

Leafs are clueless . So you know they should of kept him

Hyman in 32 playoff games with the leafs he had 5 goals and 8 assists while getting topline minutes. before this playoffs in 60 playoff games he has 19 goals. 16 goals this playoffs almost equals that. Guys like Hyman have to get the good bounces to score that's why last year he had 3 goals and the year before 11 goals.

If you make the playoffs, then you are a good team. Good teams even miss the playoffs. If you can take a team to 7, then you can beat them.

As an Oilers fan, I'll actually say no. Hindsight is 20/20 and honestly I had concerns at the time that we had overpaid for him but hoped that Hyman would surprise us, which he definitely has. Especially given how bad some of Holland's contracts have panned out (Campbell, Nurse, Kassian etc.).

At the time I wanted to sign him. He was heart and sole. I knew the risks of his age and some injury stuff but he was mr fix it. His versatility was undeniable. He’s exactly what we needed when he was here. But that being said. NO ONE saw this coming. Guy has been beyond anything anyone predicted and it couldn’t happen to a better guy

Shanny and Dufus screwed up

Paraphrasing what Jason Strudwick said in an episode of Overdrive when asked if anyone ever thought Hyman would be a 50 goal scorer: "I guarantee you Kyle Dubas didn't!" 🤣

Leafs popped Hyman then let him go. “On & on you don’t know what you got till it’s gone! Dubai was garbage

Had they not overpaid for Tavares, then Marner and Mathews, the Leafs could have kept Hyman and should have kept Kadri. You have to wonder how this team would have looked under Lou if Dumbass wasn’t promoted.

The Leafs should have kept Carter "Clutch" Verhaeghe Dubas made some awful trades. Giving away Seth Jarvis for nothing well taking over a horrible contract.

It looks bad now, but that Habs series was brutal. The hooking, holding, and slashing on Matthews and Marner was brutal, and it was Hyman’s time to step up. He had countless 1 on 1s/ breakaways and did not do the business. He had to walk

Hell yeah, they did!! They got rid of all their sand paper and kept tje cottonelle! He was your Brandon Gallagher, only better and just let him walk. Ouch!

Zack Hymen and Conner Brown should never have been let go. OBVIOUSLY! Dubas was worse than useless...

It all comes down to marner......he clearly wanted hymans money so thats whaat happened. Baby mitch putting himself before the team qnd management dumb enough to do it. End of story

Also are number one defenceman can’t shoot from the point. O threat from the point. Let’s ignore that too. If you guys want to be taken serious call people out fairly.