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@ImCarolB
@ImCarolB Год назад
I've already watched this on Vocab's channel, but it is so interesting that I'm watching it again!
@PhilHoraia
@PhilHoraia Год назад
There is a variant for that verse 'Over it are 19' (S 74:30), which has 17.
@Abinitio777
@Abinitio777 Год назад
Great show crew :) !
@PhilHoraia
@PhilHoraia Год назад
Hafs for S 21:4 Qala '(He) said'; Warsh: Qul 'Say!'. A consonantal difference with clearly different meanings.
@PhilHoraia
@PhilHoraia Год назад
From, Variant Readings In The Quran And The Bible In spite of this great effort to prevent the occurrence of variant readings in the text of the Qur'an, quite a number may still be found. Al Baidawi mentions some in his commentary on Suras 3:100; 6:91; 19:35; 28:48, 33:6, etc. This last one from the Sura of the Confederates (Al-Ahzab) 33:6 from 5-7 AH is also mentioned by Yusuf Ali. The Othmanic text reads, "The prophet is closer to the believers than their own selves, and his wives are their mothers." but there are reports stating that Ubai b. Ka`b's text read, "The prophet is closer to the believers than their own selves, and he is a father to them, and his wives are their mothers."
@samuelflores1419
@samuelflores1419 Год назад
Thanks for Sharing this video Vocab. God bless you All and your ministry! Jesus is Lord! Every Knee Shall Bow Every Tongue Will Confess that Jesus the Christ is Lord to the Glory of God the Father!
@simondavid3508
@simondavid3508 Год назад
God save the Muslims in your mercy in Jesus name. Let's keep praying and sharing the Gospel with them. Where is Brother Wood Daud. ? God Bless you all
@nejlababali7901
@nejlababali7901 Год назад
Don't worry about Muslims. You worry about yourselves,we are very strong in our faith.
@PhilHoraia
@PhilHoraia Год назад
My post, Isa's Death S 3:55 When Allah said: Isa, I am causing you to die and am raising you to me and purifying you of those who disbelieved and I am putting those who followed you above those who disbelieved to the day of resurrection. Then to me is your return and I judge between you concerning what you were differing in. S 3:144 And Muhammad is nothing but a messenger. The messengers passed away before him. So if he dies or is killed, you turn back on your heels? And he who turns back on his heels will not harm Allah at all. And Allah will reward the grateful. S 5:117 I did not tell them except what you commanded me: Worship Allah, my lord and your lord. And I was a witness over them as long as I was among them and when you caused me to die you were the watchman over them and you are a witness over everything. The verb used is توفى tawaffa, a Form V verb. توفى - Wiktionary The reader may compare various occurrences of the verb in the Quran here: The Quranic Arabic Corpus - Quran Dictionary A hadith: Narrted Ibn `Abbas: Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) said, "You will be resurrected (and assembled) bare-footed, naked and uncircumcised." The Prophet (ﷺ) then recited the Divine Verse:-- "As We began the first creation, We shall repeat it: A promise We have undertaken. Truly we shall do it." (21.104) He added, "The first to be dressed will be Abraham. Then some of my companions will take to the right and to the left. I will say: 'My companions! 'It will be said, 'They had been renegades since you left them.' I will then say what the Pious Slave Jesus, the son of Mary said: 'And I was a witness over them while I dwelt amongst them; when You did take me up {tawaffaytani}, You were the Watcher over them, and You are a Witness to all things. If You punish them, they are Your slaves, and if you forgive them, You, only You are the All-Mighty the All-Wise.' " (5.117-118) Narrated Quaggas, "Those were the apostates who renegade from Islam during the Caliphate of Abu Bakr who fought them". [bukhari/60/117] Just as Isa died, the founder of Islam too died. Was the latter ‘taken up’? No, he is in his grave. In Al-Tabari's tafsir for S 3:55 we read: عن ابن عبـاس، قوله: { إِنّي مُتَوَفِّيكَ } يقول: إنـي مـميتك. From Ibn Abbas His statement: {Inni mutawaffika} he says: I am causing you to die. Altafsir .com -تفسير ايآت القرآن الكريم (1-0-55-3) p 2 The Crucifixion of Christ - A Christian Critique of the Quran Jamal Badawi's Misinformation and Misquotations - Part 6
@PhilHoraia
@PhilHoraia Год назад
My post, Neither Killed Nor Crucified In S 4:157 we read of some unnamed people saying that they had killed Isa. And their saying: We killed the Messiah, Isa son of Maryam, the messenger of Allah. And they did not kill him and they did not crucify him but it was made to appear to them. And those who have differed about it are in doubt about it. They have no knowledge of it except the following of assumption. And they did not kill him, of a certainty. But the author states that they didn't kill or crucify him. Did the author think that crucifixion was not a death penalty but that a man might be killed THEN crucified? In Al-Tabari's tafsir we read: " وما قتلوه وما صلبوه ولكن شبه لهم "، يعني: وما قتلوا عيسى وما صلبوه ولكن شبه لهم. "And they did not kill him and they did not crucify him but it was made to appear to them." Meaning: And they didn't kill Isa and they didn't crucify him but it was made to appear to them. ... أنا عيسى= وقد صوّره الله على صورة عيسى، فأخذوه فقتلوه وصلبوه. I am Isa=and Allah formed him upon the image of Isa, and they took him and killed him and crucified him. [quran .ksu .edu .sa/tafseer/tabary/sura4-aya157 .html] Further reading: The Crucifixion of Christ - A Christian Critique of the Quran
@karenfisher4170
@karenfisher4170 Год назад
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@alonzoharris9049
@alonzoharris9049 Год назад
The level is very poor. Muslims don’t buy in your cheap tactics.
@PhilHoraia
@PhilHoraia Год назад
Why are there so many passages that have 'we' followed by a PLURAL noun? My post, Plural Nouns and Allah S 15:9 We have sent down the dhikr and we are keepers for it. S 15:23 And we vivify and cause to die and we are the inheritors. S 21:17 Had we wanted to take a ‘fun’ we would have taken it from us if we were doers. S 21:81 And to Sulayman the wind, a storm, running by his command to the land which we have blessed. And we were knowers of everything. S 21:94 So he who does some of the righteous deeds and he is a believer, there is no kufran of his striving. And we are scribes for it. S 28:58 And how many we destroyed of a village that was haughty in its living! Those are their residences. It has not dwelled after them except a little. And we were the inheritors. S 37:75 And Nuh invoked us and excellent were the responders. S 43:41 And whether we take you away we are avengers on them. S 44:3 We sent it down on a blessed night. We were warners. S 44:5 A matter from us. We were dispatchers, S 44:16 A day we wipe out with the biggest wiping-out. We are avengers. S 56:59 Is it you who create it or are we the creators? S 56:69 Is it you who have sent it down from the nimbuses or are we the senders down?
@PhilHoraia
@PhilHoraia Год назад
If sujud is only to God, why does Allah (which is definitely not God) in quran command the angels to do so to Adam?
@PhilHoraia
@PhilHoraia Год назад
From, Islam and Adultery: An Examination of Muhammad’s Marriage Privileges One of Islam’s premiere Muslim commentators, al-Qurtubi, enumerates the privileges Allah gave Muhammad. The following is taken from the Commentary of al-Qurtubi on Surah 33:50. All bold and capital emphasis ours. And any believing woman who dedicates herself to the Prophet if the Prophet wishes to wed (Nikah) her; this only for thee, and not for the Believers (at large). As for what was granted and made lawful (by Allah) to the prophet -pbuh- they are 16 issues:- First: To be fair with the spoils. Second: To (forcefully) take a fifth of a fifth or just a fifth (of the spoils of war). Third: "Al Wisal" (Dimitrius- the fast or fasting. This usually refers to fasting or abstaining from food.) Fourth: To take more than four women. Fifth: To marry, "Yas-tan-kih" (or have intercourse), with a woman who verbally pronounces her dedication (to the prophet). Sixth: To marry, "Yas-tan-kih," without the presence (or permission) of a legal guardian. Seventh: To marry, "Yas-tan-kih," without a dowry. Eighth: To marry (and have intercourse) during a state of ritual consecration and purification. Ninth: The annulment of an oath he may make to his wives. Tenth: If Muhammad looks at a woman (and desires her) THEN IT IS NECESSARY FOR HER HUSBAND TO DIVORCE HER AND FOR MUHAMMAD TO MARRY HER. Ibn Al A’raby said, "This is what the servant of the two holy mosques has also said, as was clear to the scholars FROM THE STORY OF ZAID which also had this meaning." Eleventh: That the prophet released Safiyyah (from her captured status) and he considered her release as her dowry. Twelfth: To enter Mecca without being in a state of ritual purification. Thirteenth: To fight in Mecca. Fourteenth: That he is not inherited by anyone at all. This was mentioned in the oath of absolution for when a man approaches death due to illness, most of his possessions are taken away, so that he does not have more than a third left for him. But the possessions of the prophet remained for him, as is evidenced in the verse of inheritance and in Surat Mariam. Fifteenth: His marriage is still considered effective after his death. Sixteenth: If he divorces a woman she remains prohibited to everyone and may not be married, "Nikah," to someone else. "Yas-tan-kih" comes from the word "Yan’kah." For it is said in different forms "Nakaha" and "Istan-kaha" just as it is said "Ajab" and "Ista-jab"… It is permissible to use the word, "Istan-kaha," to mean one whom requests marriage or one who requests sexual intercourse. (Source; translation ours)
@PhilHoraia
@PhilHoraia Год назад
My post, Is Everyone and Everything Muslim? S 3:83 So is it other than Allah’s religion they seek? And to him have surrendered {أَسْلَمَ aslama} those in the skies and the Earth, willingly and unwillingly, and to him are they returned. S 13:15 And to Lah do sujud those in the skies and the Earth, willingly and unwillingly, and their shadows in the morning errand and the late afternoons. S 16:49 And to Lah does sujud what is in the skies and what is on the Earth of beast and the angels and they are not arrogant. S 22:18 Have you not seen that Allah, to him does sujud those in the skies and those on the Earth and the sun and the moon and the stars and the mountains and the trees and the beasts and many of the people? But many--the torture was rightly upon him. And he whom Allah despises, he has no honourer. Allah does what he wills. In a non-Quranic hadith we read that the messenger’s devil had turned Muslim: It was narrated from 'Ubadah bin Al-Walid bin 'Ubadah bin As-Samit that 'Aishah said: "I looked for the Messenger of Allah and I put my hand on his hair." He said: "Your Shaitan has come to you." I said: "Don't you have a Shaitan?" He said: "Yes, but Allah helped me with him, so he submitted {فَأَسْلَمَ fa-aslama}." [nasai/36/22] Abdullah b. Mas'ud reported that Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) said: There is none amongst you with whom is not an attache from amongst the jinn (devil). They (the Companions) said: Allah's Messenger, with you too? Thereupon he said: Yes, but Allah helps me against him and so I am safe from his hand {فَأَسْلَمَ fa-aslama} and he does not command me but for good. [muslim:2814a] Am I, an Islam critic, a Muslim and I do sujud to Lah? I have never seen any of my dogs doing sujud. If animals are Muslims, why do Muslims eat their fellow believers? And are shadows conscious entities? Has anyone ever seen them do sujud?
@melissahunt3959
@melissahunt3959 Год назад
You better not bore me to tears Tony
@karenfisher4170
@karenfisher4170 Год назад
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@melissahunt3959
@melissahunt3959 Год назад
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@PhilHoraia
@PhilHoraia Год назад
From, The Preservation of the Qur'an and synoptic Qur'ans: Al-Nadim also notes the following: (C)oncerning the arrangement of the Qur'an in the manuscript of Abd Allah ibn Mas'ud, Al-Fadl ibn Shadhan said, "I found in a manuscript of `Abd Allah ibn Mas'ud the surahs of the Qur'an in accordance with the following (different) sequence ... These are one hundred and ten surahs." (Al-Nadim, p. 53) One of our reliable friends has informed us, saying that the composition of the surahs according to the reading of Ubayy ibn Ka'b is in a village called Qariyat al-Ansar, two parasangs from al-Basrah, where in his home Muhammad ibn Abd al-Malik al-Ansari showed us a Qur'anic manuscript, saying, "This is the copy of Ubayy which we have, handed down from our fathers." I looked into it and ascertained the headings of the surahs, the endings of the revelations, and the numbers of verses. ... one hundred and sixteen surahs. (Al-Nadim, pp. 58-61) Abdullah ibn Mas’ud’s version of the Qur’an did not have surahs 1, 113 or 114, that is, there were no du’a prayers. Ubayy ibn Ka’b’s Qur’an is reported to have the following two extra surahs: Surah 115 al-Khal: O Allah, we seek your help and ask your forgiveness, and we praise you and we don't disbelieve in you. We separate from and leave who sins against you. Surah 116 al-Hafd: O Allah we worship you and to you we pray and prostrate and to you we run and hasten to serve you. We hope for your mercy and fear your punishment. Your punishment will surely reach the disbelievers. (Ahmed von Denffer, `Ulum al Qur'an, Leicester: The Islamic Foundation, 1985, p. 48)
@alonzoharris9049
@alonzoharris9049 Год назад
The trinity is three gods.
@samuelflores1419
@samuelflores1419 Год назад
​@@alonzoharris9049When You Can't Defend, You DISTRACT! It's your Claim, not ours. 😂😂😂
@alonzoharris9049
@alonzoharris9049 Год назад
@@samuelflores1419 You can’t defend. That’s why you repeat these non academic claims from garbage websites.
@PhilHoraia
@PhilHoraia Год назад
@@alonzoharris9049 What the allah has your troll comment got to do with that above? But as you've grunted the nonsense that you do so often in the comments sections, my post again, which you failed to critique: The Allah Triad Muslims like to speak against the Trinity and to say that Christians have three gods but do they have a triad? Let's see. There is Allah. There is Adam. Allah, we are told, blew some of its spirit into Adam, who was to have been a successor and the angels were commanded to do sujud to him. Adam Allah The Angels Commanded to Do Sujud and Iblis’ Refusal There is Isa. Isa, we are told, is Allah's word and spirit; creates, gives life, raises the dead and abrogates. Isa, Allah's Word Isa, Allah's Spirit Isa the Abrogator Allah is of course Allah, Adam is Allah, Isa is Allah. To use a favourite of the Muslims: 1+1+1=? In fact, we might even add Jibril. In S 2:97 we read: Say: He who was an enemy to Jibril, he sent it down upon your heart with Allah’s permission, confirming what is in front of it and as guidance and good news for the believers. Jib sent down quran? Why is it doing what we're told that Allah does? It's irrelevant that it does so with Allah's permission. We may say that Allah itself receives permission. Permission Some Jibril-Allah Comparisons Is Jib another god? Is Allah a tetrad? 1+1+1+1=? Further reading: The Basmala/Tasmiyyah
@alonzoharris9049
@alonzoharris9049 Год назад
@@PhilHoraia The trinity is three gods. Your claims are irrelevant. Nobody calls your claims to be Islamic theology. What do you believe? What do you believe? You believe three selves are divine. We believe one self is god. You believe in three selves. Three selves are three gods.
@PhilHoraia
@PhilHoraia Год назад
If a mother is ONLY she who bore you, how might the wives of Allah's boss be the Muslims' Mothers? From, Qur'an Inconsistency: Can I call her mother? The Quran says that a mother is one who gives birth to a person: God has heard the words of her that disputes with thee concerning her husband, and makes complaint unto God. God hears the two of you conversing together; surely God is All-hearing, All-seeing. Those of you who say, regarding their wives, 'Be as my mother's back,' they are not truly their mothers; their mothers are ONLY those who gave them birth, and they are surely saying a dishonourable saying, and a falsehood. Yet surely God is All-pardoning, All-forgiving. S. 58:1-2 Arberry Clearly, under this quranic definition of the word "mother", everyone has and can have only one mother. The intention of this passage is to abolish a certain way of divorce in Arab society (cf. this dictionary entry on ZIHAR). I agree with the quranic condemnation of such an unjust method of divorce. However, the author of the Quran goes too far and makes the mistake to attack the use of the word "mother" in a non-literal sense and to categorically rule that the word mother can ONLY be used for the woman who gave birth to the person, i.e. the word mother may not be used in any other way. Although I consider this Quranic response inappropriate, the statement in S. 58:2 is consistent with the Quranic prohibition on adoption: God has not assigned to any man two hearts within his breast; nor has He made your wives, when you divorce, saying, 'Be as my mother's back,' truly your mothers, neither has He made your adopted sons your sons in fact. That is your own saying, the words of your mouths; but God speaks the truth, and guides on the way. Call them after their true fathers; that is more equitable in the sight of God. If you know not who their fathers were, then they are your brothers in religion, and your clients. There is no fault in you if you make mistakes, but only in what your hearts premeditate. God is All-forgiving, All-compassionate. S. 33:4-5 Arberry The Quran reasons that since adopted children are not the adoptive parents' literal biological offspring, they shouldn't be reckoned as their children. Based on this verse, Islam has forbidden adoption. Again, children should only be called sons (or daughters) of their literal, biological fathers (and mothers). Vice versa, this certainly implies that only the biological parents should be called father and mother as in 58:2 quoted above. Up to this point, the verses that have been quoted are consistent. However, the Quran states elsewhere that a person's wet-nurse is to be viewed like one's own mother, thereby making it unlawful for them to marry their wet-nurses or anyone nursed by the same woman: Forbidden to you are your mothers and daughters, your sisters, your aunts paternal and maternal, your brother's daughters, your sister's daughters, your mothers who have given suck to you, your suckling sisters, your wives' mothers, your stepdaughters who are in your care being born of your wives you have been in to -- but if you have not yet been in to them it is no fault in you - and the spouses of your sons who are of your loins, and that you should take to you two sisters together, unless it be a thing of the past; God is All-forgiving, All-compassionate; S. 4:23 Arberry So which is it? Is a mother only one who gives birth to a person, or can a person consider others to be their mothers such as their wet-nurses? On the one hand the Quran argues that only the genetic connection establishes motherhood or fatherhood, i.e. people should be called mothers or fathers ONLY in relationship to their biological offspring. On the other hand, in regard to marriage, nursing is claimed to establish the same kind of legal relationship as birthing.
@PhilHoraia
@PhilHoraia Год назад
My post, The Angels Commanded to Do Sujud and Iblis’ Refusal S 2:34 And when we said to the angels: Do sujud to Adam, they did sujud except Iblis. He refused and was arrogant and was of the kafirun. S 7:11 And we created you then we formed you. Then we said to the angels: Do sujud to Adam. So they did sujud except Iblis. He was not of those who did sujud. S 15:29-31 So when I have smoothed him and blown into him from my spirit fall down to him doing sujud. So the angels did sujud all of them together, Except Iblis. He refused to be with those doing sujud. S 17:61 And when we said to the angels: Do sujud to Adam, they did sujud, except Iblis. He said: Am I to do sujud to one you have created as clay? S 18:50 And when we said to the angels: Do sujud to Adam. So they did sujud except Iblis. He was of the jinn. And he acted immorally against his lord’s command. So do you take him and his offspring as protectors instead of me when they are an enemy to you? Miserable was an exchange for the wrongdoers. S 20:116 And when we said to the angels: Do sujud to Adam, they did sujud, except Iblis; he refused. S 38:71-75 When your lord said to the angels: I am creating a man from clay. So when I have smoothed him and blown into him from my spirit then fall down to him doing sujud. So the angels did sujud, all of them together. Except Iblis; he was arrogant and was of the kafirun. He said: Iblis, what prevented you from doing sujud to what I have created with my hands? Were you arrogant or were you of the exalted? Let’s compare this with the Life of Adam and Eve: xiv 1 And Michael went out and called all the angels saying: 'Worship the image of God as the Lord God hath commanded.' And Michael himself worshipped first; then he called me and said: 'Worship the image of God 3 the Lord.' And I answered, 'I have no (need) to worship Adam.' And since Michael kept urging me to worship, I said to him, 'Why dost thou urge me? I will not worship an inferior and younger being (than I). I am his senior in the Creation, before he was made was I already made. It is his duty to worship me.' The Books of Adam and Eve Further reading: The Prostration to Adam -- A Quranic Problem [Part 1]
@PhilHoraia
@PhilHoraia Год назад
My post, Isa, Allah's Spirit S 4:171 People of the Book, do not exceed in your religion nor say about Allah but the truth. The Messiah Isa the son of Maryam is only a messenger of Allah’s and his word which he threw to Maryam and spirit from him. So believe in Allah and his messengers and do not say Three. Cease; it is better for you. Allah is only one god. Praise be to him that he should have a child! His is what is in the skies and what is on the Earth. And Allah was sufficient as an agent. S 19:17-19 And she took from them a screen. Then we sent to her our spirit and it assumed for her the likeness of a regular man. She said: I take refuge in Al-Rahman from you, if you are fearing. He said: I am only a messenger of your lord’s that I may give you a pure boy. See: The Epistula Apostolorum: Epistle of the Apostles In non-Quranic hadith we read: "They will then go to Musa (ﷺ) but he will say: `I am not the one to do that; go to `Isa (Jesus), Allah's Word and spirit.'" [riyadussalihin:201]
@PhilHoraia
@PhilHoraia Год назад
My post, None Knows Its Interpretation But Allah S 3:7 He is the one who sent down upon you the book; of it are muhkamat verses. They are the mother of the book and others are mutashabihat. As for those in whose hearts is aberration, they follow what he copied from it, seeking fitnah and seeking its interpretation. And none knows its interpretation but Allah. And the firm in knowledge say: We have believed in it. All is from our lord. And none remembers except the possessors of albab. Does an author interpret his own work? Or might one interpret and make sense of someone else's work? S 69:40 It is a noble messenger’s speech. S 81:19 It is the speech of a noble messenger, If these passages are saying that the Quran is a messenger's speech then is Allah the only one that can make sense of this anonymous author's work? A Messenger’s Speech?
@PhilHoraia
@PhilHoraia Год назад
My post, Muslims and Believers In Islam can you be a Muslim without being a believer? Can you be a believer without being a Muslim? S 6:163 No partner has he. And with that have I been commanded and I am the first of the Muslims. The First Muslim Commanded with what? Here the author is calling himself a Muslim. But: S 2:285 The messenger has believed in what has been sent down to him from his lord, and the believers. All have believed in Allah and his angels and his books and his messengers. We do not distinguish between any of his messengers. And they have said: We have heard and obeyed. Your forgiveness, our lord, and to you is the destiny. Who are all? We Make No Distinction Between Messengers S 33:50 Prophet, we have made lawful for you your husbands whom you have given their wages to and what your right hand possesses from what Allah has given you as booty and the daughters of your paternal uncles and the daughters of your paternal aunts and the daughters of your maternal uncles and the daughters of your maternal aunts who emigrated with you and a believing woman who has given herself to the prophet if the prophet wants to futter her--exclusively for you, excluding the believers. We knew what we made obligatory upon them concerning their husbands and what their right hands have possessed, that there should be no difficulty upon you. And Allah was a forgiver, merciful. S 33:59 Prophet, tell your husbands and your daughters and the women of the believers to draw their jalabib over them. That is more appropriate that they should be known and not harmed. And Allah was a forgiver, merciful. 60 If the hypocrites and those in whose hearts is disease and the agitators in Al-Madinah do not cease, we will cause you to lure them then they shall not be your neighbours therein except a little. It doesn't say: 'the women of the other believers'. Was the Founder of Islam a Believer? S 49:14 The Bedouins have said: We have believed. Say: You have not believed; but say: We have surrendered, and faith has not yet entered into your hearts. But if you obey Allah and his messenger, he does not deprive you of your deeds at all. Allah is a forgiver, merciful. The Bedouins were to say that they had surrendered, turned Muslim, and were to be told that they had not believed. Question: Who would not deprive them of their deeds? Allah? Its boss? As Muslims have tawhid 'unification', is this both Allah and its boss? Iblis is depicted as calling Allah 'lord' and he obviously believed in Allah. Was he a Muslim? S 15:36 He said: Lord, then give me respite to a day they are raised. How does he know that 'they' (who?) would be raised? S 15:39 He said: Lord, because you have seduced me I will adorn for them on the Earth and seduce them all Allah as a Deceiver: Examining Satan’s Accusations Against the Integrity of Allah Jews and Christians, we are told, believe in quran. S 2:144 It may be we see the turning of your face to the sky so we turn you to a qiblah that you will be pleased with. So turn your face towards the Sacred Mosque and wherever you are turn your faces towards it. And those who were given the Book know that it is the truth from their lord. And Allah is not unaware of what they do. The Change of the Qiblah Qiblah Verses S 28:52-53 Those whom we gave the Book to before it, they believe in it. / And when it is read to them they said: We have believed in it. It is the truth from our lord. We were Muslims before it. They were apparently Muslims; they believe (present tense) in quran; are they still Muslims? Throughout quran we find the phrase 'Those who have believed'. If you ask members of the stone-licking tribe whom this refers to, they will surely say: 'Muslims'. But if Christians and Jews believe in quran, would Muslims say that the former were Muslims? Further reading: Is Isa a Muslim?
@PhilHoraia
@PhilHoraia Год назад
My post, Sujud What would be the point of sujud, usually, but not accurately, often translated 'prostration'? During an act of sujud the person faces the direction of the one being honoured. Now, if one were to do sujud to Allah then we might expect Allah to be on Earth. As Muslims do sujud towards the 'house', the Ka'bah, we might expect Allah to reside in it, were we to believe in it. In Surat al-Baqarah the angels do sujud to Adam, who was presumably in front of them. When Yusuf's parents (but see: Qur'an Error: Did Joseph's parents go to Egypt?) did sujud to him they would have done so in front of him. S 12:99-100 And when they entered upon Yusuf he put his parents up and said: Enter Egypt, if Allah wills, secure. And he raised his parents upon the throne and they fell down to him doing sujud. And he said: My father, this is the interpretation of my dream before. My lord has made it true. And he did good to me when he took me out of the prison and brought you from the Bedouin life after the Devil had incited between me and my brothers. My lord is nice to what he wills. He is the knower, the wise. But if Allah isn't on Earth, why would the founder of Islam look up when desiring a different qiblah? Regarding looking up, see: Hadith - The Book of the Prohibited actions - Riyad as-Salihin - S 2:144 It may be we see the turning of your face to the sky so we turn you to a qiblah that you will be pleased with. So turn your face towards the Sacred Mosque and wherever you are turn your faces towards it. And those who were given the Book know that it is the truth from their lord. And Allah is not unaware of what they do. In S 67:16 and 17 we read: Have you felt safe from him who is in the sky not to cause the Earth to swallow you when it undergoes commotion? Or have you felt safe from him who is in the sky not to send a tempest against you? Then you will know how a nadhir is. 'From him who is in the sky'. So Allah is not (usually) on Earth. The founder of Islam at one time did sujud towards Jerusalem, because the Jews did, but the Jews would have originally done so on account of the belief that God's presence was there in the Temple. On the change of the qiblah: The Change of the Qiblah
@alonzoharris9049
@alonzoharris9049 Год назад
You claim that a man is god.🥴
@samuelflores1419
@samuelflores1419 Год назад
​@@alonzoharris9049Still Can't Defend?
@PhilHoraia
@PhilHoraia Год назад
@@alonzoharris9049 Gonzo, where are your comments regarding my post, worshipper of a biological being?
@alonzoharris9049
@alonzoharris9049 Год назад
@@PhilHoraia Do you worship the entire person Jesus?🫠
@PhilHoraia
@PhilHoraia Год назад
@@alonzoharris9049 Gonzo, why do you have nothing to say about your man-god?
@PhilHoraia
@PhilHoraia Год назад
If quran is a CLEAR book, why are there tafasir? If quran itself is a tafsir of itself, indeed the BEST tafsir, why do Muslims prefer 'scholars'' tafasir to 'Allah's' BEST tafsir? Is Ibn Kathir's, for example, a BETTER tafsir than the BEST tafsir? :)) My post, The Quran is the Best Tafsir? In S 25:33 we read: And they do not bring you a similitude but we have brought you the truth and the best tafsir. If the Quran is the BEST tafsir, why do Muslims go to Ibn Kathir, et al.? Also, did Allah (“we have”) come to Earth and give it to its boss? Or is Allah permanently on Earth? (Side note: Does S 55:26-27 indicate that Allah is on Earth?: Everyone on it is evanescent. But the face of your lord, the possessor of majesty and honour, remains.) If it refers to angels, where does it state that? If ‘we’ can refer to angels, how might we know when it refers to angels and when to Allah?
@alonzoharris9049
@alonzoharris9049 Год назад
Your bible is not clear. It has commentaries.🤣 Even non qualified Anthony Rogers thinks he is a commentator and mufasir of his version of the bible.🥴🤣
@samuelflores1419
@samuelflores1419 Год назад
​@@alonzoharris9049The same energy you use to try to debunk Christianity you should use to do some Real Research on your Pagan beliefs. Ignorance is Bliss in islaaam!
@alonzoharris9049
@alonzoharris9049 Год назад
@@samuelflores1419 I can defend my theology. You can’t defend your theology. It has logical contradictions.
@samuelflores1419
@samuelflores1419 Год назад
@@alonzoharris9049 Handicap Worshipper you Never Defend what is being said! NEVER!
@PhilHoraia
@PhilHoraia Год назад
@@alonzoharris9049 Gonzo, do you approve of Muslims going to Ibn Kathir et al. in preference to the 'BEST tafsir'? Do you think that his may be BETTER than the BEST tafsir?
@alonzoharris9049
@alonzoharris9049 Год назад
These Christians believe in three gods.
@samuelflores1419
@samuelflores1419 Год назад
God is Holy and Righteous your allah is Neither!
@alonzoharris9049
@alonzoharris9049 Год назад
@@samuelflores1419 Your god is a logical contradiction.
@najibsalwe6873
@najibsalwe6873 Год назад
I mean you guys don't even know proper grammar. There is something called royal "we" to show respect and speak highly of someone like a king.
@PhilHoraia
@PhilHoraia Год назад
@Najib, Can you tell me why numerous passages have 'we' followed by a PLURAL noun? My post, Plural Nouns and Allah S 15:9 We have sent down the dhikr and we are keepers for it. S 15:23 And we vivify and cause to die and we are the inheritors. S 21:17 Had we wanted to take a ‘fun’ we would have taken it from us if we were doers. S 21:81 And to Sulayman the wind, a storm, running by his command to the land which we have blessed. And we were knowers of everything. S 21:94 So he who does some of the righteous deeds and he is a believer, there is no kufran of his striving. And we are scribes for it. S 28:58 And how many we destroyed of a village that was haughty in its living! Those are their residences. It has not dwelled after them except a little. And we were the inheritors. S 37:75 And Nuh invoked us and excellent were the responders. S 43:41 And whether we take you away we are avengers on them. S 44:3 We sent it down on a blessed night. We were warners. S 44:5 A matter from us. We were dispatchers, S 44:16 A day we wipe out with the biggest wiping-out. We are avengers. S 56:59 Is it you who create it or are we the creators? S 56:69 Is it you who have sent it down from the nimbuses or are we the senders down?
@najibsalwe6873
@najibsalwe6873 Год назад
@PhilHoraia I will advice you to learn English well and do some research. We believe Allah is king of all kings and if we are ok using plural on human kings I don't see why you will have an issue with calling Allah those plural terms to show respect.
@alonzoharris9049
@alonzoharris9049 Год назад
@@PhilHoraia Because god choose so. God is one self (nafs) in the Quran. Is your trinity one self or three selves?🫠 I can use the plural for mySELF. It doesn’t make me more than one Person. Only trinitarian pagans have this ‘logic’.🥴🤣
@alonzoharris9049
@alonzoharris9049 Год назад
@@najibsalwe6873 They can’t defend the trinity. They think they solved the problem of the trinity by trying to ‘prove’ plurality in the Quran.🤣 It’s a desperate attempt to try to deflect from their doctrine of three gods. I can school these poor apologist inside 5 seconds at the same time.
@alonzoharris9049
@alonzoharris9049 Год назад
@@najibsalwe6873 Phil Horeia believes in three gods. He can’t explain how there is only one god in the trinity. He became an online troll with the most absurd claims and propaganda to try to deflect from his square circle religion of three gods.🫠
@PhilHoraia
@PhilHoraia Год назад
My post, Suckling of Adults ' A'isha (Allah be pleased with her) reported that Sahla bint Suhail came to Allah's Apostle (may peace be eupon him) and said: Messengerof Allah, I see on the face of Abu Hudhaifa (signs of disgust) on entering of Salim (who is an ally) into (our house), whereupon Allah's Apostle (ﷺ) said: Suckle him. She said: How can I suckle him as he is a grown-up man? Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) smiled and said: I already know that he is a young man 'Amr has made this addition in his narration that he participated in the Battle of Badr and in the narration of Ibn 'Umar (the words are): Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) laughed. [muslim/17/33] 'A'isha (Allah be pleased with her) reported that Salim, the freed slave of Abu Hadhaifa, lived with him and his family in their house. She (i. e. the daughter of Suhail came to Allah's Apostle (ﷺ) and said: Salim has attained (purbety) as men attain, and he understands what they understand, and he enters our house freely, I, however, perceive that something (rankles) in the heart of Abu Hudhaifa, whereupon Allah's Apostle (ﷺ) said to her: Suckle him and you would become unlawful for him, and (the rankling) which Abu Hudhaifa feels in his heart will disappear. She returned and said: So I suckled him, and what (was there) in the heart of Abu Hudhaifa disappeared. [muslim/17/34] Zainab daughter of Abu Salama reported: I heard Umm Salama, the wife of Allah's Apostle (may peace be upon himy, saying to 'A'isha: By Allah, I do not like to be seen by a young boy who has passed the period of fosterage, whereupon she ('A'isha) said: Why is it so? Sahla daughter of Suhail came to Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) and said: Allah's Messenger, I swear by Allah that I see in the face of Abu Hudhaifa (the signs of disgust) on account of entering of Salim (in the house), whereupon Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) said: Suckle him. She (Sahla bint Suhail) said: He has a heard. But he (again) said: Suckle him, and it would remove what is there (expression of disgust) on the face of Abu Hudhaifa. She said: (I did that) and, by Allah, I did not see (any sign of disgust) on the face of Abu Hudhaifa. [muslim/17/37] Umm Salama said to 'A'isha (Allah be pleased with her): A young boy who is at the threshold of puberty comes to you. I, however, do not like that he should come to me, whereupon 'A'isha (Allah be pleased with her) said: Don't you see in Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) a model for you? She also said: The wife of Abu Hudhaifa said: Messenger of Allah, Salim comes to me and now he is a (grown-up) person, and there is something that (rankles) in the mind of Abu Hudhaifa about him, whereupon Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) said: Suckle him (so that he may become your foster-child), and thus he may be able to come to you (freely). [muslim/17/36] ..."Sahla bint Suhayl who was the wife of Abu Hudhayfa, and one of the tribe of Amr ibn Luayy, came to the Messenger of Allah, may Allah bless him and grant him peace, and said, 'Messenger of Allah! We think of Salim as a son and he comes in to see me while I am uncovered. We only have one room, so what do you think about the situation?' The Messenger of Allah, may Allah bless him and grant him peace, said, 'Give him five drinks of your milk and he will be mahram by it.' She then saw him as a foster son. A'isha umm al-muminin took that as a precedent for whatever men she wanted to be able to come to see her. She ordered her sister, Umm Kulthum bint Abi Bakr as-Siddiq and the daughters of her brother to give milk to whichever men she wanted to be able to come in to see her.... [urn/413070] Yahya related to me from Malik from Nafi that Safiyya bint Abi Ubayd told him that Hafsa, umm al-muminin, sent Asim ibn Abdullah ibn Sad to her sister Fatima bint Umar ibn al-Khattab for her to suckle him ten times so that he could come in to see her. She did it, so he used to come in to see her. [urn/413030] A maid: Yahya related to me from Malik that Abdullah ibn Dinar said, "A man came to Abdullah ibn Umar when I waswith him at the place where judgments were given and asked him about the suckling of an older person. Abdullah ibn Umar replied, 'A man came to Umar ibn al-Khattab and said, 'I have a slave-girl and I used to have intercourse with her. My wife went to her and suckled her. When I went to the girl, my wife told me to watch out, because she had suckled her!' Umar told him to beat his wife and to go to his slave-girl because kinship by suckling was only by the suckling of the young.' " [urn/512870] Breastfeeding fatwa causes stir One of Sunni Islam's most prestigious institutions is to discipline a cleric after he issued a decree allowing women to breastfeed their male colleagues. Dr Izzat Atiya of Egypt's al-Azhar University said it offered a way around segregation of the sexes at work. His fatwa stated the act would make the man symbolically related to the woman and preclude any sexual relations. The president of al-Azhar denounced the fatwa, which Dr Atiya has since retracted, as defamatory to Islam. According to Islamic tradition, or Hadith, breast-feeding establishes a degree of maternal relation, even if a woman nurses a child who is not biologically hers. 'Family bond' In his fatwa, Dr Atiya, the head of al-Azhar's Department of Hadith, said such teachings could equally apply to adults. He said that if a woman fed a male colleague "directly from her breast" at least five times they would establish a family bond and thus be allowed to be alone together at work. "Breast feeding an adult puts an end to the problem of the private meeting, and does not ban marriage," he ruled. "A woman at work can take off the veil or reveal her hair in front of someone whom she breastfed." The legal ruling sparked outrage throughout Egypt and the Arab world. On Sunday, Dr Atiya retracted it, saying it had been the result of a "bad interpretation of a particular case" during the time of the Prophet Muhammad. Egypt's minister of religious affairs, Mahmoud Zaqzouq, has called for future fatwas to "be compatible with logic and human nature". [news .bbc .co .uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/6681511 .stm] It is argued that the woman was to give him a cup of milk, but the old pervert tells her to suckle. Suckle does not mean 'give a cup of milk'. The Egyptian scholar clearly understands the former's meaning.
@samuelflores1419
@samuelflores1419 Год назад
Wow! Whatever mo said or did was a green light for them! It's like if mo drank piss from maybe a camel they would do it also. Oops, my bad he did and they do! 😂😂😂
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