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When adding refrigerant to an HVAC system, does the refrigerant tank need to be upside down to add as a liquid or is it okay to leave it upright to add it as a vapor? In this video I explain the difference between adding refrigerant in liquid and vapor form, I talk about blended and single component refrigerants, and I also explain how to properly add refrigerant as a liquid. I mentioned a vaporizer in the video, here is the one I was referring to on Amazon:
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@WordofAdviceTV Месяц назад

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@pinballrick6031 Месяц назад

Another great informative video. You have a special knack for stating the obvious without sounding condescending, for going into detail without causing the viewer to become glassy eyed and for getting to the point without rambling. Love the channel!

@WordofAdviceTV Месяц назад

Thank you! I appreciate the positive evaluation of the video and hope to make future videos in a similar fashion!

@darkenergy5686 Месяц назад

What an informative video. Now if I could only find an honest and conscientious air conditioning tech.

@Boboftime69696 Месяц назад

The safest option is avoiding the big companies👍

@WordofAdviceTV Месяц назад

Glad you found it useful! They're out there so don't give up. 😉

@Ratlins9 Месяц назад

You just listened and watched an honest, conscientious air conditioning tech.

@princezay3608 Месяц назад

Just become one bro !!

@princezay3608 Месяц назад

I’m digging the hat bro I went to UEI a few years ago and have been doing commercial hvac since!! Wonderful trade and you definitely helped me in the past get through a few brain farts 🤣🤣 like ohming out a compressor

@francom6230 Месяц назад

Excellent video & concise explanation.. I like this guy and his accent is easy to listen to.

@WordofAdviceTV Месяц назад

Thank you! Glad you found the video useful and easy to follow along with.

@bigd3104 Месяц назад

I've always kept a Kwik Charge on my gauges for around 40 years now. Never wanted to risk damaging a compressor. Good explanation on blended refrigerants. Thanks!

@WordofAdviceTV Месяц назад

You're welcome! Thanks for confirming that the Kwik Charge works good! On a side note.. You've used that adapter longer than I have been alive. 😅 It's an honor to have you frequent my channel sir! God bless you and may you have an amazing new week!

@bowlampar 2 дня назад

It's noted, thank for your clear, easy to understand explanation Thump up!

@andresbarragan8595 Месяц назад

FROM CHICAGO IM YOUR #1 FOLOWING YOUR VIDEOS. EXELENT EXPLINATION THANK YOU SO MUCH

@WordofAdviceTV Месяц назад

My #1 Following from Chicago!! I appreciate you sir! You're welcome and I bless you to have a spectacular new week!!

@llampallas66 Месяц назад

Hey Jay, as your commented in the 7:54 mark with the unit off, I don’t believe you can open the suction side as you’re saying and leave it open if you’re putting liquid refrigerant because when the compressor comes on, you will also slug the compressor, you can open the high side or liquid side and yes, you can add all the liquid you want through there. But other than that, I love your videos. They’re all very educational. Thanks

@WordofAdviceTV Месяц назад

Yes, thank you for the correction! It is better to do it as you explained. Glad to hear you love the videos!

@eddiee2371 Месяц назад

The big problem now (just mho) is to find an hvac tech who knows this while he's screwing with your system. I'm sure you'll agree that standards have lowered a little bit across the board. Excellent video. Thanks for the education. Catch a cold? 🙄 oh boy. 😂

@saudiwave Месяц назад

Perfect demonstration.. it’s the first time i new that information. Thanks.

@paulrozinski1488 Месяц назад

Great demonstration and simple, clear explanation . That beautiful background is also a great attention keeper. Great job as always, Jay. 👍👍👍

@WordofAdviceTV Месяц назад

Thank you very much good sir! 🙂

@jungapo2 Месяц назад

thanks for prompt reply. i also googled about this already. you are absolutely correct about your information. i am not hvac technician, but i have some background how ac and refrigeration systems work. thanks again.

@LeuCustomKnives Месяц назад

Niiiice. Explains why an hvac tech I used to use added r22 both up and down.

@kenk3102 Месяц назад

...thank you Jay for a very informative video.....very well explained and answered the question I've always had "why do I add freon R22 with tank upright and R410A upside down?"....and now I know.... 🙂

@WordofAdviceTV Месяц назад

You're welcome! Glad I could clear that up for you. 🙂

@ttb6384 Месяц назад

Thank you Jay if it s possible can you make an install video step by step thank you again for your efforts

@ali.7708 Месяц назад

I offer you respect and gratitude for the information you provide on this useful channel, and I thank you very, very much with deep appreciation for you and your information.❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤

@spelunkerd Месяц назад

If you're adding liquid refrigerant, would it be appropriate to add it to the high side so that there is. a longer path back to the compressor, allowing it to boil off before reaching the compressor?

@WordofAdviceTV Месяц назад

Yes you are right! It is better to do it that way. I stand corrected 🙂

@jimmyaber5920 Месяц назад

NO. Using vapor pressure of the storage tank to add to a partially charged running system requires low side charging. The high side will have more pressure than tank, and the pressure in tank may reach the safety release tab pop off range and is DANGEROUS. Adding to low side with tank inverted to get liquid for the mix refrigerants is the norm, and slow addition to allow vaporization is the method to avoid compressor damage.

@Mark-h2e5c 27 дней назад

EXCELLENT VIDEO! THANKS! Catch a cold... LMAO!

@pellechi1 Месяц назад

Very informative … thanks …

@WordofAdviceTV Месяц назад

You're welcome! Glad you found the video useful!

@Eddy63 Месяц назад

Great info explained very well ... I'm so slow , I couldn't catch a cold Aloha my friend ... Thx

@WordofAdviceTV Месяц назад

Thank you sir! 🙂 Haha one of those times where being slow is actually beneficial right? 😄 Aloha Eddy, good to see you! Hope you have an amazingly great new week!

@arturolara1417 Месяц назад

Great channel great video for new people to the trade

@harrydickson4575 Месяц назад

Awesome explanation 👍👍👍

@WordofAdviceTV Месяц назад

Thank you sir! Glad you liked it! 🙂👍🙏

@netalekh6443 Месяц назад

Thank you so much!👍

@WordofAdviceTV Месяц назад

You are welcome! 🙂🙂

@netalekh6443 Месяц назад

God bless you!

@WordofAdviceTV Месяц назад

Thank you! God bless you and yours as well!

@sheilam4964 Месяц назад

Thx for filming this and sharing it with us.

@WordofAdviceTV Месяц назад

You're welcome! Thanks for stopping by for the new video!

@Ryan5Cool Месяц назад

Hey Jay! I love your channel and it’s very informative as a 19 yr old hvac apprentice. I’ve watched a lot of your vids and taken notes on them. However, I haven’t seen much on the metering device and would love to hear your take specifically on those. So, Could you make a video about the metering device and all the details about it? Thanks sm and God bless.

@WordofAdviceTV Месяц назад

Hey man! (great career choice btw!) There are already many videos on RU-vid explaining how the metering devices work so I didn't feel the need to make a video on it. Or were you asking for a more simplified, basic explanation?

@Ryan5Cool 19 дней назад

@WordofAdviceTV just a more simplified version because I like the way you teach. Other people are great too, but you make it a lot easier!

@Brian_L_5168 Месяц назад

Hi Jay, when you service customers AC system, do you prefer using blended or single-component refrigerant? The Hawaiian view behind you is so soothing to see on a Sunday morning. Always learning a lot from your vids ! 💯

@WordofAdviceTV Месяц назад

R22 (single component) is my favorite as it is the easiest to work with. I wish this was the only refrigerant used, that would be amazing. 😄 Glad you liked the video and the Hawaiian view! This really is a beautiful state, we're blessed to be here. Enjoy the rest of your Sunday!!

@johnvictor2451 Месяц назад

Very well done!

@WordofAdviceTV Месяц назад

Thank you sir! 🙂

@DavidHernandez-gt9bo Месяц назад

Nice explanation ! 🏝️

@tommyro5723 Месяц назад

Great explanation!!!

@WordofAdviceTV Месяц назад

Thank you! 🙂

@TofuInc Месяц назад

410a is near-azeotropic and studies have shown there is very little, less than 1% fractionation. Most heat pumps and also a lot of refrigeration equipment will have an accumulator before the compressor suction line. With these types of systems there is really no issue with flooding the compressor as you shouldn't be adding enough liquid refrigerant to overwhelm the accumulator. I know that it probably beyond the scope of this particular video.

@WordofAdviceTV Месяц назад

Thank you for a more detailed explanation on 410a!! Much appreciated! 👍

@r410a6 Месяц назад

So you should charge with the cylinder upwards? And if so then why refer to the cylinders arrow at the side?

@kkovler1 Месяц назад

What about adding oil to the system that lubricates the compressor. How and when?Maybe another video to answer this one!

@WordofAdviceTV Месяц назад

Thank you! That's a good video idea but I'll have to leave this one for someone else since I've actually never added oil to a compressor before.. I don't think it is necessary to do that. I've seen 40+ year old units that worked great without any oil added through their lifetimes.

@WallaceRoseVincent Месяц назад

Do blended refrigerants eventually separate over time? Is this how the EPA is making the world better?!?!?!

@WordofAdviceTV Месяц назад

As long as there is no leaks in the system, they shouldn't be separating. I understand the sentiment about the EPA though. I wish they never banned R22, it was the best.

@hubercats Месяц назад

Awesome video!

@WordofAdviceTV Месяц назад

Thank you! 🙂

@westonwatts6606 Месяц назад

Nice!

@WordofAdviceTV Месяц назад

Thanks! 👍

@supernova8962 Месяц назад

TY so much...this is very good info

@Barryd57 Месяц назад

I would never add a blended refrigerant. If u invert the jug, you risk flooding the expansion valve. I always use weight, amps, and my gauges so I recapture first, evacuate second, and then charge. Buy a small scale so u can weigh the tank as it empties into the system. Make sure you have lots of air blowing over the condensor. Also, keep the windows open (when working on a car and leave recycle OFF).

@JOEDECESARE-xe9sz Месяц назад

That was a great video Keep up the good work

@WordofAdviceTV Месяц назад

Thank you, will do!

@klabkebash Месяц назад

Did you drop in a "Drop In" refrigerant into an R-22 system? Or did you convert the system by reclaiming any existing refrigerant and replace the filter driers, pressure test, pull a vacuum and charge up with the replacement "Drop In" freon?

@alfredorubio2233 Месяц назад

thank you for the video, what kind of vaporizer do you recommend?as far as what brand of vaporizer do you recommend?thank you very much i just read in your comments, on Amazon also thank you for the tool list recommendations.

@WordofAdviceTV Месяц назад

I actually don't use a vaporizer at all so I can't really recommend one from my own experience. This one seems to be the overall favorite though: amzn.to/3Wze3Qv

@SmooveBee1 Месяц назад

R410A should be charged as a liquid only - its written on the bottle.

@bobyeager6104 Месяц назад

Great and informative video! Of all the drop-in replacements for R22. is Bluon TDX the best or a different one? Thanks

@WordofAdviceTV Месяц назад

Glad you found the video useful! I can't really give you a good answer for that since I've only ever used the TDX. 😇 It works good in R22 systems so I don't really want to experiment with a different one. But of course if possible, using the actual R22 is best if you can get some.

@bobyeager6104 Месяц назад

@WordofAdviceTV thank you. It's always a pleasure

@erixgar4117 Месяц назад

Hey good to see you videos again! . Do you think that it’s necessary to replace the txv when replace r22 for tdx20?

@WordofAdviceTV Месяц назад

In most cases it's not necessary. As far as I know. I haven't worked enough with TDX-20 to be confident about this.

@phoneblaster Месяц назад

...that is a great video man. I was looking for something like this as I am new to all this lak. Just a question if I can ask please. Say the airconditioner is off , not running. If I am charging the system say with the tank uprigt is that then the High Side ? or is it the other way round,? . Also how do you use guages then if the gas id 'blended'' like the tdx2 ? Many Thanks.

@Tko_Seven Месяц назад

Should I shake the tank for vapor form refill, like so in car ac refilling?

@jhunacosta6621 Месяц назад

Thank u very much...

@dennismcnamara6377 Месяц назад

The oil in the refrigerant doesn’t enter the system when you add as a vapor, right?

@WordofAdviceTV Месяц назад

That's a good question. As far as I am aware, there is no oil in the new refrigerant so this would not be a concern.

@Olds_Pwr Месяц назад

From what I recall, adding as a liquid, it would always charge faster.

@WordofAdviceTV Месяц назад

Yes, there is that too. It does go in faster as a liquid. Thank you for pointing that out.

@beammeupscottsp7952 Месяц назад

Hey man! Question about hvac, we just a new one installed, the new ac will kick on if it goes past the 1 degree threshold(set for 76 and it’ll kick on at 77). Our old carrier lasted 20 years but had a 2 degree threshold (set for 76 but kicked on at 78). I’m just worried at 1 degree is worse for our compressor because it’ll kick on and off more often. What do you recommend? The 2 degree split meant longer run times which might easier on the compressor in theory?

@John-zz5gt Месяц назад

Cool beans

@jungapo2 Месяц назад

how do you know if blended refrigerant will change ratio as gas versus in liquid state? was there measurement done to confirm this? anyway, good info!

@WordofAdviceTV Месяц назад

I have not done any testing of my own but the manufacturers of these refrigerants have. Some bottles will actually have instructions on them that specifically say to "add this refrigerant as a LIQUID ONLY".

@borshardsd Месяц назад

I respect you and your channel. The content is made to generate views and comments. But really, the epa has a test for a reason... if you don't know you shouldn't be doing it for multiple reasons

@WordofAdviceTV Месяц назад

Thank you, I appreciate your feedback. That is a fair assessment. I do want my videos to generate views and comments. But this video in particular I only made because I got asked this question many times in my other videos. But I do agree that when it comes to refrigerant, it is better to call someone out.

@borshardsd Месяц назад

@WordofAdviceTV you're a gentleman and a scholar. It's your show and my opinion doesn't change that I'm a fan. Ty for the reply and keep doing you regardless of our opinions sir!

@marshallwright3875 Месяц назад

Great video Bro

@WordofAdviceTV Месяц назад

Thanks bro! 👊

@alexandershilling Месяц назад

Our 410 a will be replaced with our 54B and R 32 refrigerant

@anilpunj580 Месяц назад

In like 2035, 410a isn't being phased out, production/importation will only throttle down in the coming years

@WordofAdviceTV Месяц назад

Yes, it will be a slow fade. 😉

@hubercats Месяц назад

Am I correct to assume that refrigerants never come in containers that have a tube that runs from the valve to the bottom of the tank?

@francom6230 Месяц назад

Yes, to my knowledge none have a dip tube. Btw,, He very well explained what took me years to gleen from hiring many ac techs being a building manager.

@hubercats Месяц назад

@@francom6230: Thank you!

@wholeNwon Месяц назад

@@francom6230 Actually some do. Simply Google for a list, if you're interested.

@sensismell42 Месяц назад

Recovery tanks will have a dip tube but illegal to charge with them unless it's the same equipment being recharged after a repair.

@hubercats Месяц назад

@@sensismell42 : Thank you!

@rightlydivided Месяц назад

I appreciate you. Fairly new sub but you are very good

@WordofAdviceTV Месяц назад

Welcome to the channel! Glad you liked the video!

@elgordo8784 Месяц назад

Good stuff 👏

@WordofAdviceTV Месяц назад

Thank you! 👍

@acemenace7411 Месяц назад

there is no drop in replacements for refrigerants

@bigd3104 Месяц назад

@@acemenace7411 R-424a can be used as a drop in replacement for R-22

@LeonSKennedy7777 Месяц назад

What would go wrong if you use a so-called “drop in replacement”, like the tdX20 he shows in this video?

@bigd3104 Месяц назад

@@acemenace7411 R424a

@WordofAdviceTV Месяц назад

This is a debated topic so I don't want to claim anything.. Refrigerants should not be mixed but I have added TDX-20 to a R22 system before and it worked great. (I did not mix it with R22) You just need to make sure that the refrigerant oils are compatible.

@acemenace7411 Месяц назад

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