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I purchased two brands of refrigerant advertised and replacement refrigerant for R-134A for a vehicle's air conditioning system. Using the proper test equipment and proper safety techniques, I compared both alternative refrigerants to R-134A. I hope this review helps you avoid making a costly mistake.
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Комментарии : 6 тыс.   
@rickc303
@rickc303 8 дней назад
Fun fact: "Freon" is DuPont's registered trademark for R12. If it isn't R12, made by DuPont, it isn't "freon"
@jaysrandomnesschannel
@jaysrandomnesschannel 8 дней назад
Yes, all refrigerant isn't Freon. Kinda like when my kids grandma says she is going to "Hoover" the floor...with a Kirby 😂
@ProjectFarm
@ProjectFarm 8 дней назад
Thank you for sharing!
@ldcent8482
@ldcent8482 8 дней назад
It's our duty as citizens of the world to flagrantly mock trademarks by using them to refer to *other brands.*
@kracin
@kracin 8 дней назад
@@jaysrandomnesschannel maybe she meant she was going to take away all other things away from the floor and leave it barren of anything beyond what it came with.... like Herbert Hoover....?
@Kadepatterson
@Kadepatterson 8 дней назад
Freon is now a trademark of chemours and they sell r134a under the Freon name as well as many other refrigerants
@The_Chad_
@The_Chad_ 8 дней назад
I own an HVAC company and I'm surprised how well and thorough you did with this video. I shouldn't be, because you're always thorough, but I never expect anyone to grasp refrigeration very well. Great job! I didn't even realize there were a bunch of 134a replacements on the market. Good to know. Replacement refrigerants usually work fine, but I avoid them when I can. Also, I'll ask again and hopefully one day you'll be able to get to it, but- testing coolant additives would be awesome. Those additives that are supposed to make your cooling system run cooler like Royal Purple's Purple Ice, Water Wetter, etc.
@PuerRidcully
@PuerRidcully 8 дней назад
I've heard some compounds have troubles mixing with oil in the system. You gotta use different oil with them. All in all probably not worth the risk.
@lt.lasereyez8891
@lt.lasereyez8891 8 дней назад
Propane works as a R134a replacement and is used in the EU in giant refrigerated warehouses because of reasons that have to do with Greta Thunberg
@therealdojj
@therealdojj 8 дней назад
@@The_Chad_ I used water wetter in my engine 25 odd years ago It worked for me 👍
@The_R-n-I_Guy
@The_R-n-I_Guy 8 дней назад
I would also be interested in a video on this. I don't like to waste money. But if a product is good, I want to know
@PuerRidcully
@PuerRidcully 8 дней назад
@@lt.lasereyez8891 You need to use different oils with different refrigerants, so you cna't simply replace them. You can find vids on youtube about how they mix with different oils
@SeenOrHeard
@SeenOrHeard 7 дней назад
Literally one of the best examples of correctly using a refrigerant recovery machine on YT
@ProjectFarm
@ProjectFarm 7 дней назад
Thanks!
@Chad-Giga.
@Chad-Giga. 4 дня назад
You mean a caresaver?
@PeterFeltersnatch852
@PeterFeltersnatch852 3 дня назад
​@@ProjectFarmyour check engine light is on
@TechWithVille
@TechWithVille 2 дня назад
To be fair, the R134a Replacement Refrigerant has R134a written on it with huge letters despite not being that stuff at all. Unlike ZeroR, the replacement refrigerant has purposefully been designed to deceive customers looking for actual R134a.
@ProjectFarm
@ProjectFarm 2 дня назад
Thanks for the feedback.
@greenidguy9292
@greenidguy9292 2 дня назад
Yep, I’ve been victimized by the scam. If you see R134a synthetic it’s fake.
@hu5116
@hu5116 8 дней назад
This was not a test of R-134 replacement refrigerants … it was a detailed course in AC servicing! Bravo, great job!
@yourmomsmom311
@yourmomsmom311 7 дней назад
Absolutely
@Dosbomber
@Dosbomber 7 дней назад
A win for us either way.
@ProjectFarm
@ProjectFarm 7 дней назад
Thanks!
@GiovannyAltamirano94
@GiovannyAltamirano94 7 дней назад
@@ProjectFarm i can explain why adding this replacement wouldnt work to some people. you dont mix freon, u replace. so if ur half full and u add the other half with the replacement the whole system would fail bc both freons operate on different pressures. ur either full with just 134 or with propane but not both. so if the other people did wat u did , replacing the freon i bet it would have worked for them. i an havc tech
@kordelewaters2655
@kordelewaters2655 7 дней назад
Still would like a timecert vs heli coil video
@raveseer
@raveseer 8 дней назад
Today I learned how to properly recover refrigerant. Thanks for unveiling another mystery of the trades!
@ProjectFarm
@ProjectFarm 8 дней назад
Our pleasure!
@hithereperson8137
@hithereperson8137 8 дней назад
Bro just admitted to breaking the law 😂😂😂
@volvo09
@volvo09 8 дней назад
​@@hithereperson8137 doesn't really matter. You've got to go extremely overboard with it to get in trouble. Being a DIY'er without the tools isn't going to gain any attention from the authorities
@Owen-xw8cs
@Owen-xw8cs 8 дней назад
It’s not a dot approved recovery tank. Don’t buy that one
@hithereperson8137
@hithereperson8137 8 дней назад
@@volvo09 oh I agree, I just find it funny
@richb419
@richb419 7 дней назад
HI, keep in mind that when taking a vacuum on a system some moisture will freeze due to the evaporation and appear it is all out, sometimes all you need to do is let the system up to atmosphere and the ice will melt. what we normally did was warm it up with a torch or heat gun, while watching the vacuum gauge, when any water flashes off the vacuum will jump up a little. I would warm up the accumulator/drier to drive off the stored moisture. Good Luck Rich
@ProjectFarm
@ProjectFarm 7 дней назад
Thanks for the feedback.
@TimHuntoon
@TimHuntoon 3 дня назад
ok can we appreciate the fact this man literally tests everything that i worry about putting in a mechanical device
@ProjectFarm
@ProjectFarm 2 дня назад
Thanks!
@boltyk1
@boltyk1 2 дня назад
That's the purpose of the whole channel
@OGBunney
@OGBunney 8 дней назад
Fun fact: propane can be replaced in a functioning R22 system and it will run perfectly. Propane and isobutane are common refrigerants in soda vending machines and commercial refrigerators like in supermarkets
@ProjectFarm
@ProjectFarm 8 дней назад
Thanks for the feedback.
@brnmcc01
@brnmcc01 8 дней назад
Yup I have also done the reverse. One time I was working on a nearly brand new Beverage Air bar undercounter beer bottle glass door display cooler that wasn't working. Turns out the damn trucking company must have bumped something during transport. The discharge line was cracked going right into the condenser coil and the first time they plugged it in, the compressor 'self recovered' the refrigerant charge and pumped it all out! We called them, and they were like well, blah blah call this 3rd party warranty company, and they'll send out a tech to 'fix' it (ya but wait for weeks no thanks). So, after finding the leak, I just brazed it shut with some 15% silFos, and recharged it with R22. It is still working fine 3-4 years later. The problem was this happened in 2020, and NO supply houses anywhere around here had any R290 in stock, and we needed that cooler up and running asap for grand opening night of this nightclub. Today, a can of R290 can be had for about $29, and there's plenty back in stock now. But back in 2020, good luck, that was the worst of the f'ing Covid shutdowns/shortages nightmare. isobutane (R600a) is a good substitute for R12/134A, very similar pressures and temps, boils at about 0 C at 0 psig pressures.
@ericocegueda3222
@ericocegueda3222 8 дней назад
R290 is the trade name
@PSUQDPICHQIEIWC
@PSUQDPICHQIEIWC 8 дней назад
A long time ago, I recharged my car with propane/butane mix. It worked okay on the open road, though it really had a hard time unless there was enough air through the condenser. I had no idea what appropriate numbers would have been, so my attempt at eyeballing it probably wasn't very good. I remember though everyone waving their arms like hysterical muppets due to the flammability, but apparently it's okay to use flammable refrigerant now because fire hazards are good for the planet.
@TheJoedirt6000
@TheJoedirt6000 8 дней назад
Ya everything burns
@Francisco-Danconia
@Francisco-Danconia 8 дней назад
Todd, you started the best and you're still the best. To me, your channel feels like the most American channel that this great country could produce. You are the type of wholesome person that I think every person wishes they knew personally. Keep it exactly the same. Very few people get it right straight out of the gate, so naturally you'll wonder what you need to improve. To me, the answer is NOTHING.
@ProjectFarm
@ProjectFarm 7 дней назад
Thanks so much!
@toast1012
@toast1012 6 дней назад
GOOD COMMENT. TRUE TOO. THANK YOU caps
@laserflexr6321
@laserflexr6321 6 дней назад
A real life hero I tell ya! Todd is the younger brother I always wish I had. A good balanced personality, dilligent enough to always achieve exellent results, but not so mental as to habitually be trapped in analysis paralysis. One of the favoritest people on youtube.
@YaBoiiiNikki
@YaBoiiiNikki 6 дней назад
I'm not even American, but I agree! It would be nice to compare some of the most commonly sold engine oils used in the EU vs in the US, while keeping the video format the same. I imported a Corvette but frankly I have no idea what to pour in it since I can't just go to Autozone and get Amsoil or AC Delco stuff
@jerbear7952
@jerbear7952 6 дней назад
I heard he steals the lawnmowers from little old ladies yards and puts them in the yards of other little old ladies to start arguments and confusion
@N4HHE
@N4HHE 7 дней назад
Has been known for decades that propane was nearly equivalent to R12. That unscrupulous used car dealers might use really cheap propane rather than (once upon a time) $1.50/pound R12.
@Zirsillius
@Zirsillius 7 дней назад
WOW! This was GREAT! An all-around class on R-134A, fake R-134A, vacuuming, recovery, charging, and manifold readings. ❤
@ProjectFarm
@ProjectFarm 7 дней назад
Thanks!
@berthagen387
@berthagen387 8 дней назад
The amount of different items tested and with absolute know of every thing tested leaves me to believe you are either a rocket scientist or a real world genius.
@ProjectFarm
@ProjectFarm 8 дней назад
Thank you!
@berthagen387
@berthagen387 8 дней назад
Thank you for all you do sir ​@@ProjectFarm
@Ronsonic
@Ronsonic 8 дней назад
He's a real world genius.
@rayjones201
@rayjones201 8 дней назад
I do believe most if not all items reviewed have instruction manuals
@chuckholmes2075
@chuckholmes2075 8 дней назад
or he's just very intuitive
@craigmiller332
@craigmiller332 8 дней назад
The explanation of how the car's AC system works @<a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="415">6:55</a> alone makes this video worthwhile for anyone who works on cars. Another PF gem 💎💎 💎
@ProjectFarm
@ProjectFarm 8 дней назад
Thank you!
@Colorado_Native
@Colorado_Native 8 дней назад
I had a mechanic years ago explain air conditioning very quickly. Bear with me. Lick the palm of your hand and now breathe out on it for a couple of seconds with your mouth open. Now repeat but this time purse your lips as you blow. Even though it's similar you will notice a difference in how cool your palm feels.
@SMITHII_
@SMITHII_ 8 дней назад
​@Colorado_Native That is an explanation of evaporative cooling, not conventional air conditioning.
@LinusJohansson-yu7cy
@LinusJohansson-yu7cy 8 дней назад
Too bad it got a little mixed up. The hot gas coming from the compressor enters at the top of the condenser and drains as liquid at the bottom. And the same goes for the evaporator; liquid enters at the bottom, boils off and exits as vapor at the top.
@chuckholmes2075
@chuckholmes2075 8 дней назад
the older systems used an expansion valve to release the pressure. most people didn't know FREON boils under pressure and freezes when you release that pressure
@PatriciaGill-m3o
@PatriciaGill-m3o 7 дней назад
Just understand that all a gauge can do is get you in the ballpark. The only way to accurately charge a car's refrigerant to the correct level, is to pull and vacuum on the system and *WEIGH* IN the correct system charge amount. Going by a gauge will pretty much always leave you somewhat over or under-charged, and neither is good for optimal cooling and efficiency.
@steveww07
@steveww07 7 дней назад
and yet, it still works pretty good.
@AZTG92
@AZTG92 7 дней назад
I wouldn't say so. What is important for cooling, is the temperature of the refrigerant on both sides of the system. And the temperature of the refrigerant depends on its pressure, not its weight. The manufacturers give the mass of the gas to make the service easier and quicker - if you suck off everything and charge the given mass of gas, then you will be about correct pressures on both sides of the system.
@Ubya_
@Ubya_ 7 дней назад
@@AZTG92 since you are charging a liquid, it will be in equilibrium with its vapor pressure. after the pressure inside the system is the same as the vapor pressure of the freon, you can dump way more refrigerant still, but the pressure won't rise.
@Watchyn_Yarwood
@Watchyn_Yarwood 7 дней назад
You are 100% absolutely correct!
@AZTG92
@AZTG92 7 дней назад
@@Ubya_ You have a liquid in a container, but this does not mean that it is still a liquid after it came into the system. Of course, if you charge the system, taking pressures as an indicator, it should be checked after the refrigerant is charged, not during charging. So it should be done with smaller steps and that's why the manufacturers recalculated everything and calculated the proper mass (so you do not have to stop the charging, check the pressure, charge again and stop and check again).
@KMiller-p4n
@KMiller-p4n 6 дней назад
You are the gold standard of product reviews, Thank you for creating them! I have been researching devices and phone apps for detecting hidden cameras and surveillance equipment when staying in vacation rentals and hotels. There are videos out there but no one does reviews products like PF. Perhaps this could be a future video. Thanks again for your great reviews!
@ProjectFarm
@ProjectFarm 6 дней назад
You are welcome! Thanks for the suggestion.
@dondraper2488
@dondraper2488 8 дней назад
I like the dude’s commitment to a task….
@ProjectFarm
@ProjectFarm 8 дней назад
Thank you!!
@papimasfuerte4671
@papimasfuerte4671 8 дней назад
the "fake" refrigerant is Propane. Nothing wrong with it but doesn't perform well in car AC systems. Propane is R290, which is used for industrial meat freezers as propane is a better refrigerant for freezing temperatures. The reason propane works poorly in car system is the system gets too cold and the EVAP core actually starts to freeze up from moisture, causing blockage of airflow and higher tempratures. I've tried straight propane in car AC. If you want to run propane in car AC system, the pressures need to be different than R134a. If you fill up with propane to R134a pressures, the EVAp core freezes or the compressor goes to constant clutch cycling.
@ProjectFarm
@ProjectFarm 8 дней назад
Thanks for the feedback.
@DarkAttack14
@DarkAttack14 6 дней назад
Not many people realize this! There is a proper pressure graph available online for R290 that goes by ambient pressure.. but of course you want to fill by weight not pressure... and car manufacturers only give you the weight for r134a, wonder if there is a conversion chart
@analool7873
@analool7873 6 дней назад
@@DarkAttack14 The conversion is simple if you know what actual substance you are filling into your system. You are right that you want to fill by weight and not by pressure, as the pressure will stay constant, due to the property called vapor pressure. You actually want to fill by volume, so you do not flood the compressor with liquid refrigerant, which will cause damage due to hydrolocking. Just like an engine should not intake water. You can first calculate how much volume is supposed to be in the system under r134a. For this you divide density of r134a by the mass, thats prescribed. Now you know how much volume of r134a should be in the system. Then you take the density of the replacement refrigerant and mutltiply it with the Volume calculated previously. This will only give you a rough calculation, to not completely overfill the system. For a really precise calculation you have to know the Volume of the system itself, to calculate how much of the refrigerant is liquid at what temperature or pressure. And most commonly the replacement gas is not pure propane, but a mix of butane and propane (R600 and R290 respectively). This is done to shift the vapor pressures so that it more or less resembles the vapor pressures of r134a
@analool7873
@analool7873 6 дней назад
I filled mine with R290 as well. Mine cycles constantly to prevent icing up, because the evap temp drops too low. A mix at a specific ratio between r290 and r600 can be used to mitigate that. This is what these replacement gases are actually (at least in germany).
@theblukatlife
@theblukatlife 6 дней назад
What could be the reason that a corolla 2015 blows warm air when stopping at a red light and then it blows cold air after awhile and when moving again? Is that normal?
@61espo
@61espo 6 дней назад
Thank you again! You’re videos are a tremendous help!
@ProjectFarm
@ProjectFarm 6 дней назад
You are welcome! Glad to hear!
@nicolaschampagne8988
@nicolaschampagne8988 5 дней назад
i wanted to learn how to do just that. i don't need to find it anymore. great timing ! great video!
@ProjectFarm
@ProjectFarm 5 дней назад
Thanks! Glad to hear!
@KingfishStevens-di9ji
@KingfishStevens-di9ji 8 дней назад
Propane as a refrigerant has been used in industrial applications for many years.
@viktorakhmedov3442
@viktorakhmedov3442 8 дней назад
AMMONIA TOO
@ProjectFarm
@ProjectFarm 8 дней назад
Thanks for the feedback.
@volvo09
@volvo09 8 дней назад
It's now becoming more common in small refrigeration systems, just without the odorant, and in small quantities.
@RebelCowboysRVs
@RebelCowboysRVs 8 дней назад
​@@viktorakhmedov3442 ammonia was most commonly used in RV refrigerators as I understand it. The ones that cool through the use of a propane flame.
@bairfamilyfarm1336
@bairfamilyfarm1336 8 дней назад
Judging by the pressures, I don't think any of those refrigerants were R290.
@many-points
@many-points 8 дней назад
The GMT800 platform has such a good AC system! Capable of freezing both front and rear passengers even in hot weather. Whoever designed the GMT800 AC I would love to meet and shake their hand for a job well done.
@clevelandrocksdzd
@clevelandrocksdzd 8 дней назад
Yeah they cool so good
@jordanabendroth6458
@jordanabendroth6458 8 дней назад
I have an early 2000s GMC pickup and even in 90 degree weather and me being a person who is always hot, that AC will make me way too cold after half an hour, it's ridiculous how good the AC on my 350,000 mile truck is
@happytrails1963
@happytrails1963 8 дней назад
they did nice job for sure, sometimes its so cold it feels good to get out of silverado and warm back up and its been in the 90's here recently ☃ ❄
@funone8716
@funone8716 8 дней назад
Yes the mob likes to use GM vehicles because it keeps the stiff in the back seat cool and not stinking up things.
@ProjectFarm
@ProjectFarm 8 дней назад
Thank you!
@TomLSTD
@TomLSTD 6 дней назад
Holy eye opening bit of knowledge this has been! Thank you!!
@ProjectFarm
@ProjectFarm 6 дней назад
You are welcome!
@clydedoris5002
@clydedoris5002 5 дней назад
I'm trying to get my epa 608 so watching this was informative on how you actually do stuff
@ProjectFarm
@ProjectFarm 4 дня назад
Thanks for sharing and best wishes!
@RangerOfTheOrder
@RangerOfTheOrder 8 дней назад
I do find it funny when a product clearly says its not XYZ, then people leave bad reviews because they thought it was XYZ.
@viktorakhmedov3442
@viktorakhmedov3442 8 дней назад
YA THEY DONT WANNA ADMIT THEY GOT SCREWED LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL x💯
@antilogism
@antilogism 8 дней назад
I see that a lot on Amazon.
@laurensa.1803
@laurensa.1803 8 дней назад
Reading is apparently an actual skill...?
@kikixchannel
@kikixchannel 8 дней назад
Yeah. It's a plague in comments. However, in the case of the second one, it is a little bit more acceptable since the can has a big 134a on it as 'brand name', with a small 'replacement' that may suggest it is 134a for replacing what you already have. Though the item description on the product page leaves no doubt to it being a different product. The first one however is perfectly clear on not bei 134a in every way possible.
@ProjectFarm
@ProjectFarm 8 дней назад
Thanks for sharing.
@JayWalkerOnline
@JayWalkerOnline 8 дней назад
I'm literally licensed to work on A/C systems and to know the risks of refrigerant and you know more than me. Kudos, sir!
@LitheInLitotes
@LitheInLitotes 8 дней назад
License don't mean much
@jonanderson5137
@jonanderson5137 8 дней назад
Tells you all you need to know about 99% of the guys in the trade.
@Darth_Sidious_66
@Darth_Sidious_66 8 дней назад
I'm literally not licensed to work on anything and know more than most licensed people. I do have a license to drive.
@greenidguy9292
@greenidguy9292 8 дней назад
That doesn’t mean you know what you’re doing…lol
@greenidguy9292
@greenidguy9292 8 дней назад
“Literally” That says a lot…
@markoradic9643
@markoradic9643 7 дней назад
Thank you - Just in time as I was thinking about these replacement options ... and now I understand what it is and why better to stick with the proper refrigirant !
@ProjectFarm
@ProjectFarm 7 дней назад
You are welcome!
@joeblo1319
@joeblo1319 6 дней назад
Thank you for a very well controlled test
@ProjectFarm
@ProjectFarm 5 дней назад
Thanks!
@VariableVideo5
@VariableVideo5 8 дней назад
When I was 19 I drove around Arizona in a car with non-functioning AC. I didn't know what to do to fix it nor could I afford it. That was horrible. Now I know so much more. Thanks.
@ProjectFarm
@ProjectFarm 8 дней назад
You are welcome!
@tihzho
@tihzho 8 дней назад
This brought back memories of when I worked (1990's) as a service engineer for a company in Australia that manufactured vacuum pumps, refrigeration and recovery systems and was the agent for Leybold (Germany) who manufactured refrigerant leak detector equipment. One such leak detector used a quadrupole mass spectrometer for the refrigerant used and the leak rate with several preprogrammed selections with one being programmable. Funny story, a manufacturer of refrigerators and ac units in Orange New South Wales bought dozens of these machines and I went there for their routine service. The production manager asked if the machine could detect methane which it does and I programmed it. He then took the probe and held it to his butt and farted. The machine not only detected it but sounded an alarm as the leak rate was very high!! LOL We both laughed so much our sides were hurting!!
@ProjectFarm
@ProjectFarm 8 дней назад
Lol, Thank you for sharing!
@moestrei
@moestrei 6 дней назад
Does that company still exist ? Or was it wrecked by cheap made in C. like everything else in Straya??(asking from Coonabarabran/NSW).
@tihzho
@tihzho 6 дней назад
@@moestrei Still there in Victoria :) Great company too!
@tihzho
@tihzho 6 дней назад
@@moestrei Still there in Victoria
@sandmaker
@sandmaker 6 дней назад
Thank you for this great test. . See you next time. This was a very timely test.!
@ProjectFarm
@ProjectFarm 6 дней назад
Thanks!
@jamesgallagher1992
@jamesgallagher1992 7 дней назад
That freon recovery machine looks sooo happy..or chilled😂😂👍
@shroompicn-shrooman
@shroompicn-shrooman 2 дня назад
Fun fact. We used to use dry ice and an empty tank with a vacuum pulled on it . Before dedicated recovery machines were a thing
@thewatchersofthewood3530
@thewatchersofthewood3530 8 дней назад
This is a great video with good info, I have been in HVAC for 15 years. Just be aware there is no accurate way to know how much refrigerant is left in a leaking system by pressures. If you have 2lbs leak out of a 3lb system it will show about the same static pressure at rest. Of course When its running pressures will be lower and have bad performance. For best result recover and check for leaks. Topping off is only temporary. Also never fill a leaking system with flammable refrigerants!! I have charged an old Mercedes R12 system with r600 (butane) and it worked perfectly even better than r12 though did ultrasonic leak detection first to make sure no leaks! Its still running almost 10 years later though its still risky if the evaporator lets go and you cabin fills with butane 😂.
@ProjectFarm
@ProjectFarm 8 дней назад
Thanks! Thanks for the feedback.
@brnmcc01
@brnmcc01 8 дней назад
Well, how much butane is in the system, and what's the interior cubic volume of the car? You might not even reach the flammability limit of R600a. Another way to be safe, is never ever use the recirc mode function. That way if there ever is a leak, the constant supply of fresh air will dilute and flush out the flammable gas from your car. That's why in Europe and some chest freezers here in USA use R600a for a refrigerant, they've figured the 4 ounce charge in those small units wouldn't be enough to start a fire even if it all leaked inside with the door closed. It's just too lean of a mixture.
@ryelor123
@ryelor123 8 дней назад
I'd recommend replacing the reciever-drier or accumulator if you're going to use a flammable refrigerant. That way its far less likely that the evaporator will leak since its the water in the system that corrodes them.
@thewatchersofthewood3530
@thewatchersofthewood3530 8 дней назад
@@brnmcc01 The system needed 4.5lbs of r12. I do not remember what amount of r600 or possibly r290 I used in there but no where near the r12 capacity as was going by pressures. It was I believe 10 yers ago and still working. Definitely changed the receiver dryer and pulled a deep vacuum.
@mr.gutwrench
@mr.gutwrench 7 дней назад
If you needed another reason to quit smoking, that would be a good one.
@Carstuff111
@Carstuff111 8 дней назад
My grandparents had a 1997 Chevrolet Silverado at one time they bought used, it had a damaged condenser and they did not realize it for about a month after buying the truck. They had a shop replace the condensor and check the system over. When they got the truck back, on a 110*F Texas summer day, I was riding around with them from Dallas, Texas back to Paris, Texas freezing my butt off in the back seat and was stunned to see a light frost had built up on the center AC vents. The funniest thing to me was my grandfather had been complaining that R-134a doesn't work as well as R-12 did. He was no longer complaining about R-134a. I swear that truck could have been used as a locker for dry aging meats.
@justinr9753
@justinr9753 8 дней назад
I've had a 1999 Toyota that would have frost build up Texas during the summer too
@Discretesignals
@Discretesignals 8 дней назад
That's not good. That could mean the evaporator was freezing up. All systems should never go below 32F, so they use thermal cut off switches. If the evaporator and lines ice up, you can end up damaging the compressor.
@RickBaconsAdventures
@RickBaconsAdventures 8 дней назад
R134a can work great in systems that were engineered for it. Putting it in a system that was made for R12 never works worth a flying crap.
@jamesm568
@jamesm568 8 дней назад
Those trucks as always had cold air conditioning when they're properly maintained. An extra can also helps.
@ProjectFarm
@ProjectFarm 8 дней назад
Thank you for sharing!
@thegreyfuzz
@thegreyfuzz 7 дней назад
Always learn something new with your videos, didn't realize there were 'alternatives/replacements' on the market, especially with such deceptive labels. I will admit that I ran out the the shop to verify the cans I bought last month were in fact 134a (since I already added 4oz or so to a vehicle i was a little panicked).
@ProjectFarm
@ProjectFarm 7 дней назад
Thanks for sharing.
@danwittels5542
@danwittels5542 7 дней назад
Great video! You explained everything perfectly. Very useful info. Thanks for doing it!
@ProjectFarm
@ProjectFarm 7 дней назад
Thanks and you are welcome!
@RangerOfTheOrder
@RangerOfTheOrder 8 дней назад
I appreciate you going over the steps for refrigerant recovery! You always provide great info without padding for time and I love it!
@ProjectFarm
@ProjectFarm 8 дней назад
Thanks!
@therealdojj
@therealdojj 8 дней назад
And finally, the video is you may or may not be asking about at the end, water filters for your home for not just filtering the water but also softening it too Thanks again Todd 👍
@ProjectFarm
@ProjectFarm 8 дней назад
Thank you for the video idea!
@eaglegapinstituteofintensi228
@eaglegapinstituteofintensi228 8 дней назад
Amen!!!
@gutrali
@gutrali 8 дней назад
​@@ProjectFarmplease do this^^. But also find a way to measure the microplastics when comparing against RO filters. Get the equipment that helps you measure microplastics yourself, because I am positive that you will be using it in the future........
@justinr9753
@justinr9753 8 дней назад
I'd like to see a petri dish test to test when they are new and at the end of their recommended schedule would be interesting
@TheLocalGeek
@TheLocalGeek 8 дней назад
@@ProjectFarm My recommendation is to compare vehicle headlight bulbs. Thank you for all of the great videos.
@RobbieGraybeal
@RobbieGraybeal 5 дней назад
Great video! You never disappoint and always have interesting topics! Thanks for all of the information that you have given over the years!
@ProjectFarm
@ProjectFarm 5 дней назад
Thanks and you are welcome!
@stevenveltrie1868
@stevenveltrie1868 5 дней назад
As usual another great educational video. Thanks for all the work that you go to for these videos.
@ProjectFarm
@ProjectFarm 5 дней назад
Thanks and you are welcome!
@davidmollard9832
@davidmollard9832 8 дней назад
Propane is a refrigerant, R-290. At this time I'm seeing it in small refrigeration equipment, beverage coolers, salad lines things like that.
@ProjectFarm
@ProjectFarm 8 дней назад
Thanks for sharing.
@friedpancakes266
@friedpancakes266 6 дней назад
Unless something changes, it will stay that way. In the US, usage in capacities beyond 16 ounces is illegal. Around the world, propane and other hydrocarbons are used in cars. That usage is banned in the US due to the explosive potential of a refrigerant leak. It's used in commercial coolers and residential refrigerators and works very well
@KlodFather
@KlodFather 5 дней назад
@@ProjectFarm - Brother and I converted his semi airconditioning system over to propane LOL. He refilled it if needed with Coleman cylinders. They also sell adapters from Propane cylinders to Butane cans for camping stoves but they make great adapters for boat air horns and also filling car systems with camp stove Propane which works, but works better with an expansion valve change. Something to look into. A boat air horn will blow your head off with Propane and make you eyes switch sockets. Its MUCH louder and higher note due to smaller molecule than R-134. I still have a few of those crazy adapters. They facilitate a lot of fun :)
@KlodFather
@KlodFather 5 дней назад
@@friedpancakes266 - Yep... Purified clean Propane is colder and works better than R-12 or R-134. Its a great refrigerant. R-12 was developed to replace Propane due to flammability.
@weevilsnitz
@weevilsnitz 4 дня назад
Yes, it is starting to be used in some refrigeration tech but with any system it should be designed around the functionality of that refrigerant and the refrigerant used should be the one called for, not an "equivalent replacement"/
@elcastorgrande
@elcastorgrande 8 дней назад
Todd, you're a born teacher. Even I could understand how a refrigeration system works.
@ProjectFarm
@ProjectFarm 8 дней назад
Thanks!
@nathancervantes6001
@nathancervantes6001 7 дней назад
@@elcastorgrande If you can't explain it to a six year old, you don't understand it yourself. Albert Einstein
@FreedomandBaconHomestead
@FreedomandBaconHomestead 6 дней назад
Learned something new today! Thanks!
@ProjectFarm
@ProjectFarm 6 дней назад
You are welcome! Glad to hear!
@Wienerdog123
@Wienerdog123 6 дней назад
Perfectly done as you always do!
@ProjectFarm
@ProjectFarm 6 дней назад
Thanks!
@JohnD-JohnD
@JohnD-JohnD 8 дней назад
DuPont owns the patents for pretty much every refrigerant that has come out. It's really strange that every time the patent runs out, they come out with a new refrigerant with a new patent and laws are passed to make it mandatory. The new mandatory refrigerant R1234yf is also flammable.
@pizzablender
@pizzablender 8 дней назад
Propane (R290) could be used as well. It is on the way in for home A/C. And could definitely work in cars as well. But indeed Dupont and co wouldn't make money on it. But it would be a boon environmentally.
@TheZigZiggy
@TheZigZiggy 8 дней назад
Exactly ... refrigerants are heavier than air and there is no way possible for them to get up into the ozone layer. It's all a hoax to prevent third party competition that would bring the prices down. Follow the money .. to DuPont and the politicians.
@joeroe2839
@joeroe2839 8 дней назад
Money talks , go see dark waters 😂😂
@stankymcgee6742
@stankymcgee6742 8 дней назад
Once the patent runs its corse, DuPont decides to use its bureaucratic pull to make that particular product illegal due to claims of being unsafe for the environment so other companies cannot make it anymore. It's a great way for a company (DuPont in this case) to keep competing companies from cutting into DuPont's bottom line.
@stankymcgee6742
@stankymcgee6742 8 дней назад
*course
@CJ-jo6do
@CJ-jo6do 8 дней назад
As a auto tech, there's a couple things to note. You should leave the recovery run for a few minutes to get the refrigerant out of the oil. It needs time and vacuum to boil out. Also I heavily discourage using any sealants or leak-stopper in the refrigerant system. It slows a leak down at best. The worst part is that it causes major issues in A/C service equipment, including plugging up control valves and possible other expensive damage. If the vehicle has any leak-stopper in it, there's a special inline filter that needs to be installed between the vehicle and the A/C machine.
@ProjectFarm
@ProjectFarm 8 дней назад
Thank you for sharing!
@knurlgnar24
@knurlgnar24 8 дней назад
I've used sealer products on multiple vehicles. It worked on all of them - one of them going from leaking out over the course of a day to lasting 10 years until I sold it never again needing a charge. The issue is if you need to open the system up to replace parts because then you're probably SOL unless you replace EVERYTHING. Such products have their place.
@CJ-jo6do
@CJ-jo6do 8 дней назад
@@knurlgnar24 when I get ahold of them, the sealer didn't work.😅 But I agree with you, the issue is if you had to do any repairs after it's in the system. I wonder just how prevalent it will be with the new R1234yf refrigerant, that stuff is crazy expensive, and more and more newer vehicles are starting to use it.
@bryjasman6348
@bryjasman6348 8 дней назад
Since covid all the prices are up 404a used to be like 7 dollars a lb now it's about 35 a lb
@tbiker99
@tbiker99 7 дней назад
watched to learn about refrigerants and learned considerably more about how an AC works. Well done. Always look forward to the next video.
@ProjectFarm
@ProjectFarm 7 дней назад
Thanks!
@Kimblesgarage
@Kimblesgarage 6 дней назад
Project farm is such good RU-vid. Entertaining, educational, thorough and unbiased.
@ProjectFarm
@ProjectFarm 5 дней назад
Thanks!
@JSFGuy
@JSFGuy 8 дней назад
For real, I've been running hydrocarbon refrigerants since 99 It does work better. In 2 minutes it'll bottom out about 37° at idle so. My Cars are mad cold. Enviro safe FTW
@ProjectFarm
@ProjectFarm 8 дней назад
Thanks for the information
@JSFGuy
@JSFGuy 8 дней назад
@@ProjectFarm I have what you're using I have not used it yet. Fortunately GM AC systems are very accommodating and cooperative for this. Doing this is very tricky on several systems.
@somedreybloke
@somedreybloke 8 дней назад
Which ones do you use specifically?
@Dieselolds
@Dieselolds 8 дней назад
Tried the Enviro safe in my 89 Caprice, got crazy cold AC.
@steveskouson9620
@steveskouson9620 8 дней назад
The compressor on the house AC was leaking pretty bad, acouple years ago, and R-20 was MAD expensive, so I used some R-290 I got from Home D. 15 pound bottles, refilled, for about $20 or so. Yep, BBQ grade R-290. Had to refill a couple times a week, but that one bottle lasted all summer. (Landlord bought a replacement, when the weather cooled down, in the fall.) steve
@alexflosho
@alexflosho 8 дней назад
Well, I thought my AC was pretty good, not blowing hot. Then this guy comes with his sub-40 degree vent temps.
@rupe53
@rupe53 8 дней назад
Those extra cold temps are typical of GM vehicles. If it was a newer MOPAR, we'd be pushing 50 degrees while driving.
@jordanabendroth6458
@jordanabendroth6458 8 дней назад
​​@@rupe53can confirm, I have an early 2000s GMC pickup and using an infrared thermometer like he was using, my AC will output like 35-45 degree air and sometimes running it for too long I legitimately get too cold and have to turn it down so it's not cooling quite as much. The only time I've seen it become entirely useless was last summer I went to the dump and the line was super long to get weighed and it was like 102 that day and so after like 20 minutes of sitting in place not moving, the AC was not blowing cold air anymore because the fan couldn't move enough air over the condenser. Once I got moving though, the air temperature came right back down to where it should be
@lazygamer9725
@lazygamer9725 8 дней назад
I've always said gm got 1 thing right!!! Them ac don't play!!! I've drove everything under the sun and gm vehicles I've had or got now blow 🧊 cold 🥶 I have had to turn them down even in this MS heat... last week heat index was 110... driving 2 hrs to make a delivery and had to cut it down... legs where freezing.
@ProjectFarm
@ProjectFarm 8 дней назад
Thanks for sharing.
@zacharymorris9917
@zacharymorris9917 8 дней назад
GM, Toyota and Honda have always been top dogs in the AC department. Especially GM truck platforms.
@Rosher18
@Rosher18 3 дня назад
It's been a few years since I've had one of your videos recommended. I'm very impressed that your format has only improved and expanded! Keep up the awesome work! I just removed about 2 ounces of R134a from my car using a refrigerant can in a bowl of iced brine because the compressor was engaging a bit hard and it was shutting off to prevent fluid ingestion. (Would restart after a few seconds but the conditioned air would become clammy before the compressor kicked back on). Thanks for sharing the correct way to do all this!
@ProjectFarm
@ProjectFarm 2 дня назад
You are welcome!
@ErnieMathews
@ErnieMathews 3 дня назад
Your methodical approach to everything is so relaxing: I'll definitely know lots about whatever you test when you're done.
@ProjectFarm
@ProjectFarm 3 дня назад
Thanks!
@leotills3017
@leotills3017 8 дней назад
Im an appliance tech that does sealed system repair. Awesome to see you use the right gear and terminology. Its just a little diffetent for auto air conditioning
@ProjectFarm
@ProjectFarm 8 дней назад
Thanks!
@robwebster1098
@robwebster1098 8 дней назад
Another idea! Testing brake fluids to see what differences there maybe between name brands and oem brake fluids. Which absorbs water fastest? Which resists heat and breaking down? Which handles pressure better? Maybe test dot 3, dot 4, dot 5 to see differences there. I think that would be a great test, especially if you are getting ready to do a brake change.
@ProjectFarm
@ProjectFarm 8 дней назад
Thank you for the video idea!
@kypparmstrong2775
@kypparmstrong2775 8 дней назад
@@ProjectFarmTest the brake fluids for boiling point as well please!
@ryelor123
@ryelor123 8 дней назад
Brake fluids are very standardized due to regulations thus all Dot 5.1 fluids will all have the same chemistry and stats. Its not like oil where there are different engines and additive packages due to variations in vehicles.
@can-cruiser
@can-cruiser 7 дней назад
Thanks for posting this. Very informative.. Cheers..
@ProjectFarm
@ProjectFarm 7 дней назад
Thanks and you are welcome!
@jeremyhale6403
@jeremyhale6403 7 дней назад
A comparison of the various gutter guards would be fantastic. There are so many on the market and it's difficult to know which ones work vs. which would continually get clogged, can't handle heavy rain, etc. Love the video as usual! Thanks
@ProjectFarm
@ProjectFarm 6 дней назад
Thanks! Thanks for the suggestion.
@Cassinspace
@Cassinspace 8 дней назад
Most cans of r134a and other refrigerants have additional chemicals like stop leak or compressor oil in them. Don't use these products without proper knowledge of your refrigeration system or you risk equipment damage. It's designed to operate at a specific level of refrigerant, adding can after can will overpressurize it and stop it from even turning on. More cans =/= more cold. When I replaced my ac compressor I had a hard time finding straight r134a. Super Tech was the only can i found without any additives. Ones with oil in them didn't have the amount I needed. I added the required 5oz of compressor oil before sealing and charging the system. Excellent video as always, thanks PF!
@boots7859
@boots7859 8 дней назад
Thats a great point missed by all the 'its easy' commenters. You need a specific amount of oil for the compressor to continue to operate. Just adding refrigerant without oil to a leaky system is just going to see it go oil starved and die.
@justinr9753
@justinr9753 8 дней назад
I've put that in when I didn't have a gauge, was a mess to clean using air compressor and mineral spirits when I did finally have to replace the compressor that had been grinding for years. The new compressor said no warranty if you have leak stop
@ProjectFarm
@ProjectFarm 8 дней назад
Thank you!
@brnmcc01
@brnmcc01 8 дней назад
You can find plain R134A in the small cans at like Autozone and Rural King. Walmart is sometimes the cheapest, you just have to stay away from the ones with the built in attached hose, those have all kinds of oil and other "fillers" added to them.
@ryelor123
@ryelor123 8 дней назад
DO NOT EVER USE STOPLEAK REFRIGERANT. No shop will touch your ac system unless its to replace the whole thing. Stopleak destroys recovery machines and you're supposed to do a simple water test before hooking up a machine to make sure it doesn't have that stuff in it. Yes, you should be hoarding R134a can since they'll be worth a lot more in the near future. Buy as many as you can. But don't touch a stopleak can. Also, I don't think the cans come with oil. You're supposed to add that separately after knowing how much you've removed or when installing a new compressor. Even then, many new compressors come pre-filled and you want to replace the receiver drier or accumulator anyway.
@Thefunnyfarm78
@Thefunnyfarm78 4 дня назад
as always awesome job on being thorough and perfect videography
@ProjectFarm
@ProjectFarm 4 дня назад
Thanks!
@vanteal
@vanteal 7 дней назад
Good timing, I just was looking for info on how to recharge my murano air con.
@ProjectFarm
@ProjectFarm 7 дней назад
Glad to hear!
@aydin2005ozdemir
@aydin2005ozdemir 8 дней назад
Your videos are the only ones that i never skip forward. Perfect explanation, objective setup, solid evidence for every experiment...
@ProjectFarm
@ProjectFarm 8 дней назад
Thanks!
@AStarshipTrooper
@AStarshipTrooper 8 дней назад
Being a refrigeration tech I would say that most likely the refrigerant being used in the R-134A (C2,H2,F4) replacement is R-152A (C2,H4,F2) which is a flammable gas. I would not recommend putting this in your vehicle, in the possibility of anything damaging the refrigeration tubing or system could lead to a possible fire or explosion like expansion of flammable gas. The reason why you see lower performance out of the vehicle is due to R-152A having a lower volumetric cooling capacity around 5% less than R-134a. R-152A having a higher a higher hydrogen concentration is what leads to it's flammability most likely. R-1234yf (C3,H2,F4) is used in many modern cars after 2020, it is also a semi flammable refrigerant. The difference between the flammability of R-152A and R-1234YF is probably due to the burning velocity of R-152A being faster than R-1234YF. Most modern refrigerators and freezers are going to R-600A(Isobutane) and R-290(Propane) which are highly flammable. The use of flammable refrigerants are being introduced to Refrigeration and HVAC applications is because the supposed environmental hazards and GWP(Global Warming Potential) of other refrigerants. A lot of flammable refrigerants could potentially be dangerous to people if accidents happen but they have either low or zero GWP(Also cheaper to manufacture most likely) than non flammable refrigerants. Thank you for testing these refrigerants and showing how these refrigerants can be dangerous.
@phizc
@phizc 8 дней назад
I checked the SDS for the ZeroR r134a replacement. It just says Liquid Petroleum Gas 99% + odorant 0.75% and dye 0.25%. Even they don't know the refrigerant mix it seems. It's just LNG. Also, their claim of zero GWP is ridiculous. Yes, it's probably only a few percent of that of r134a's 1600, but it's still several times that of CO2.
@davesaunders7080
@davesaunders7080 8 дней назад
Geeze the 15 gallons of gas in the tank?
@ProjectFarm
@ProjectFarm 8 дней назад
Thank you for sharing!
@davidg3517
@davidg3517 8 дней назад
The R-134a replacement I bought is labeled as 12a refrigerant. I don't have the composition on the can, it just says a blend of hydrocarbons. Looking up 12a on Wikipedia will tell you 12a is a blend of propane and isobutane.
@brnmcc01
@brnmcc01 8 дней назад
@@phizc R290 has a GWP of 3. So it's "only" 3 times as bad as CO2, but you also have to take into account the realistic atmospheric lifetime of whatever gas. In fact, there really wasn't anything wrong with R22, it took about 20 years for it to break down, and about 20 years to make it into the ozone layer so it only had an ODP of about 0.05. The problem with R12 was, it was such a stable gas that the atmospheric lifetime of R12 and R11 is like over 100 years. For comparison, the GWP of R404A or R410 is 1000's of times worse than C02... so it's not even in the same ballpark as R290/600.
@Dinkymaster7
@Dinkymaster7 6 дней назад
Really nice video! Thanks
@ProjectFarm
@ProjectFarm 5 дней назад
Thanks and you are welcome!
@1cnfour349
@1cnfour349 7 дней назад
Like most people I’m into this right now, and I am duly educated…thank you so much, you’re an awesome man, thank you brother!
@ProjectFarm
@ProjectFarm 7 дней назад
You are welcome!
@ericerto8250
@ericerto8250 8 дней назад
Love this guy one of my favorite creators on this platform I've been watching him since the very beginning and I've learned so much. I have been able to make many educated buys because of these videos thank you project farm
@ProjectFarm
@ProjectFarm 8 дней назад
Thank you very much!
@ericerto8250
@ericerto8250 8 дней назад
@@ProjectFarm like I said you are the best and I have been watching you since the very beginning. I remember when you're painting video first came out that was one that really stood out to me. I just love the time and effort and thought and the unique ways you come up with fairly testing everything and I really respect the fact that you're unbiased
@Bakachu7
@Bakachu7 8 дней назад
That's a huge amount of work that went into testing each substitute! Well done, Todd. It looks like going with the real stuff not only performs better but it's safer.
@ProjectFarm
@ProjectFarm 8 дней назад
Thank you very much!
@white24valve
@white24valve 5 дней назад
My 05 Chevy 2500hd with the Duramax has 383,000 miles and the other day i replaced condenser, suction,discharge,and liquid line,and the the drier. I got the same temp results.Driving at 65 miles my temps were 42,43 degrees in which i would have thought more air hitting the condesor and more air flow it would have hit mid 30's degrees. But when i got home sitting in the driveway in park it was 39,40 degrees. Not complaing that a truck with those miles and 20 years old xan make those kinda of temps. Thanks for your informative videos!!
@ProjectFarm
@ProjectFarm 5 дней назад
You are welcome!
@Zenkai76
@Zenkai76 6 дней назад
Wow, this was informative and entertaining, love all your videos! I have a 93 Toyota and I want to convert it to the newer stuff, I know that wasn't the topic of this video but it at least shows me what I will be getting into!
@ProjectFarm
@ProjectFarm 6 дней назад
Thanks! Thanks for sharing.
@glasslinger
@glasslinger 8 дней назад
Propane and isobutane mixture.Very close to freon 12 pressure curve.
@antibrevity
@antibrevity 8 дней назад
I worked in HVAC for over a decade, yet *I* sometimes call these refrigerants "freon" and don't give a crap about whether it's a trademark or not. Everyone (above a certain age) knows what "freon" means, just as everyone knows what kleenex are. To be clear, I normally refer to these as "refrigerants" and typically just by name (R-134a, etc), but if I or someone else slips and calls them "freon" I don't mind. No one does except the trademark holders and I don't care what DuPont thinks. Neither should you unless you upload youtube videos that might trigger some reaction from a trademark owner ;).
@ProjectFarm
@ProjectFarm 8 дней назад
Thanks for the feedback.
@Argedis
@Argedis 8 дней назад
It's like everyone calling cotton swabs Q-Tips. Some people call most chips Doritos or Cheetos. Soda gets called Coke. Some brands are just that popular that they literally BECOME the name.
@jamessharp9790
@jamessharp9790 8 дней назад
I agree and it’s an acceptable colloquialism not a malapropism like calling a slot screwdriver a flathead- of course that is an accepted term so…
@BlueOvalEdge
@BlueOvalEdge 7 дней назад
Agreed. Got a few show off smart ass commentators here that show up at car shows with a Starbucks and tell you that a "motor" is electric. I beat all those pseudo intellectuals in school without getting hung up on colloquial expressions. Now, I need to go and xerox a few things.
@AquaTech225
@AquaTech225 7 дней назад
Yep an Baind-Aid ect. Ain’t squat wrong with it. But the run of the mill customer is going to always know Freon may not be the right term. But everyone knows that
@DanielGBenesScienceShows
@DanielGBenesScienceShows 6 дней назад
This was a great video! I love the addition of the “How AC Works” section. Though my 2 stage vacuum pump is usually used with teaching science and physics, it also makes quick work of AC repairs.
@ProjectFarm
@ProjectFarm 6 дней назад
Thanks!
@sammascreel
@sammascreel 7 дней назад
hello there, love your videos. especially your automotive videos the most. anything automotive related like all of your oil videos to engine videos to a transmission rebuild 2 parter, to detailing ect. these types of videos are my favorite on RU-vid.
@ProjectFarm
@ProjectFarm 7 дней назад
Thanks!
@toysforboysrc
@toysforboysrc 8 дней назад
PF speaks so thoroughly and quickly that I need to dial down the playback speed so I can file this new information into its proper folder and file it under “auto a/c” or else I’ll never remember all of this 😂
@ProjectFarm
@ProjectFarm 8 дней назад
Thanks for the feedback.
@toysforboysrc
@toysforboysrc 8 дней назад
@@ProjectFarm … I’m just being funny no complaints😎
@Pho7on
@Pho7on 7 дней назад
@@toysforboysrc If he slows down I'm coming after you O.O He's the only youtuber that doesn't intentionally waste my time (j/k)
@toysforboysrc
@toysforboysrc 7 дней назад
@@Pho7on .. agreed 👌
@toysforboysrc
@toysforboysrc 7 дней назад
@@Pho7on … Idk but I’m smelling a “World’s Fastest” product review video coming to up lol. Following competition sponsored by Amazon.
@ocularpressure4558
@ocularpressure4558 8 дней назад
Thanks for always doing amazing work because we me&friends always check your videos before we purchase anything not anything but a lot lol
@ProjectFarm
@ProjectFarm 8 дней назад
Thank you very much!
@jamesrankin9833
@jamesrankin9833 7 дней назад
Well that’s kind of important information!! Good stuff!
@ProjectFarm
@ProjectFarm 7 дней назад
Thanks!
@tinok.8149
@tinok.8149 7 дней назад
Great video as always very detailed and thorough. I had no clue there was r134 fakes out there. Thanks for opening our eyes. I also think its time for another epoxy showdown. Its been 7rs since you did the last one. Thank you for all the hard work you do off camera.
@ProjectFarm
@ProjectFarm 7 дней назад
Thanks and you are welcome! Thanks for the suggestion.
@bmartin7828
@bmartin7828 8 дней назад
I had no idea there was fake R134a on the market. I’ve charged dozens of vehicles with R134a with my manifold system on mine and family cars, and R12 back in the day. Glad to know this exists. Thank you Todd, I’ve been watching all your videos for years.
@tmlf1239
@tmlf1239 8 дней назад
It's not fake R134a, though. All the cans indicated it was a R-134a substitute. And it if it's propane/butane, a lot of cans indicate they are compatible with systems already containing R-134a. And I've used them to top off R-134a before too without problem. We've had plenty of these cans for sale in Canada and everyone knows they are propane/butane mixtures. Now that R-134a is no longer sold in Canada, except to some licensed people, these cans are all normal people can get here.
@ProjectFarm
@ProjectFarm 7 дней назад
You are welcome!
@johnpublic6582
@johnpublic6582 7 дней назад
@@tmlf1239 When is Canada going to outlaw bacon to protect you from the possible risk of one day maybe coming down with heart disease?
@Dosbomber
@Dosbomber 7 дней назад
@@johnpublic6582 They already have something called "Canadian bacon"... which isn't bacon.
@MoneyManHolmes
@MoneyManHolmes 6 дней назад
They should have called it Substitute or Alternative on the can. Calling it Replacement makes some buyers think it’s simply more R-134A to replace what has leaked out. But who would buy this on Amazon anyway… every Walmart I’ve been to stocks this by the pallet.
@JeanTracey
@JeanTracey 8 дней назад
You definitely deserve more recognition for this!
@Bob-Sacamano
@Bob-Sacamano 8 дней назад
scam bot detected
@XXGunzNClipzXx
@XXGunzNClipzXx 6 дней назад
This is awesome. Technician here, and I've always just use the AC machines at work, Everytime I've tried with the Parts store cans with the nozzle or small cans with hoses and gauges I just don't get the steps and always do it wrong. Idk if its just me lol, great video alot of knowledge on tools
@ProjectFarm
@ProjectFarm 5 дней назад
Thanks! Thanks for sharing.
@howeelectric
@howeelectric 4 дня назад
I love your narration style! The timbre and speed of reading the script is spot on. You should consider doing voice overs for other channels as well.
@ProjectFarm
@ProjectFarm 3 дня назад
Thanks for the suggestion.
@Tackleb3rry
@Tackleb3rry 8 дней назад
Awesome video as always! Future video idea: fire cabinets (wood vs metal) With many power tools going to battery and many stories about garage and home fires due to batteries and/or chargers, I’d love to get a fire cabinet to keep my batteries in.
@ProjectFarm
@ProjectFarm 8 дней назад
Thanks for the idea!
@ricksanchez7459
@ricksanchez7459 8 дней назад
Was thinking about this the other day I saw an ebike catch apartment on fire. Could just as easily been a drill battery
@GraysonXXC
@GraysonXXC 8 дней назад
This is the best video I have ever watched about A/C systems on a car.
@ProjectFarm
@ProjectFarm 8 дней назад
Thanks!
@snehilvaja4460
@snehilvaja4460 6 дней назад
Very informative video!
@ProjectFarm
@ProjectFarm 6 дней назад
Thanks!
@PaulCyclist
@PaulCyclist 7 дней назад
Very helpful
@ProjectFarm
@ProjectFarm 7 дней назад
Glad to hear!
@Lancemechanics
@Lancemechanics 8 дней назад
As a mechanic in the trade. First thing we use is a a/c contaminant tester. Those bottles that have the sealant in them are a plague for us. they will ruin our machines. If they'res no sealer in there i got no issue, The sealer plugs up orifice tubes and causes expansion valves to slowly jam up.
@Discretesignals
@Discretesignals 8 дней назад
They have a sealant leak detector kit. It basically screws onto a service port and allows a small amount of refrigerant to blow through a tiny orfice. If the orifice plugs up, it's got sealant and the whole system needs replaced. Of course, no customer wants to pay the cost of an entire system, but you save your equipment.
@ProjectFarm
@ProjectFarm 8 дней назад
Thank you for sharing!
@MonkeyDelicious
@MonkeyDelicious 8 дней назад
Any product with a leak sealer is not safe for the life of the vehicle.
@alfredmorency8296
@alfredmorency8296 8 дней назад
@@MonkeyDelicious I've known a couple dozen people who have used radiator leak sealer, a/c leak sealer, tire sealer, steering gear sealer, and magic trans rebuild in a can. All but one of them regretted it, the lone exception had a leak in his radiator out in the desert (Before SAT and cell phones, and on a truck with a rebuildable radiator.). He knew it would ruin his radiator but that wasn't as bad as walking out.
@EricK-jx7lq
@EricK-jx7lq 8 дней назад
Careful with that 134a tank. Those kinds of tanks are not meant to be reused. Even your actual recovery tank (that I assume came with the recovery machine) isn't preferable. I bought one of those off Amazon, and it leaked. They don't go through the same process the official recovery tank makers do. I don't think you could even exchange it to be recycled, even if you were so inclined. Just don't fill it up to much. We would be devastated if anything happened to you 😞
@ProjectFarm
@ProjectFarm 8 дней назад
Thank you for the heads up!
@Owen-xw8cs
@Owen-xw8cs 8 дней назад
@@EricK-jx7lq the main problem is it’s not dot approved and nobody will exchange it. Yes the goofy float valve inside the tank is not to be trusted as well
@tommyq374
@tommyq374 8 дней назад
We reuse them where we are, I was skeptical but bosses said longs the non return is pulled out (easy with a flat head) it can be used as a recovery, obviously making sure to observe maximum fill etc
@cardinaloflannagancr8929
@cardinaloflannagancr8929 8 дней назад
@@tommyq374 It's funny how supposedly environmentally conscious countries claim to be yet many things needlessly are made throw away. When they can either be re-used or a simple design change would allow that.
@EricK-jx7lq
@EricK-jx7lq 8 дней назад
@@cardinaloflannagancr8929 it's not legal for us to reuse them in the residential and commercial trades. We have to use the official recovery tanks. They're thoroughly tested and even have to have burst test, where they fill them until they explode. They can have as much as 60 lbs of recovered refrigerant, so they need to be much stronger than the tanks they come in.
@user-it4bd7dl8z
@user-it4bd7dl8z 6 дней назад
Oh yeah! You gave me an idea!
@Tillhony
@Tillhony 7 дней назад
I'm doing AC on my car and this video helped a ton especially on how to recover freon lol. For something so serious there is little info on how to actually do it imo cause its so dangerous. Once I saw this video I also got recommended a video about The Valencia Apartment Fire Disaster, where a fridge using R600a refrigerant was the cause for a deadly fire.
@ProjectFarm
@ProjectFarm 7 дней назад
Thanks for sharing.
@Brian_L_5168
@Brian_L_5168 8 дней назад
You title this video PERFECTLY b/c those fake A/C refrigerant small fine prints truly MISLEAD consumers. Great presentation & great service to the public as always 👋
@davesaunders7080
@davesaunders7080 8 дней назад
Next it will be cars have dangerous flammable substances in them! Beware!
@ProjectFarm
@ProjectFarm 8 дней назад
Thank you!
@mitchell9937
@mitchell9937 8 дней назад
It's not even fine print. People just don't bother reading the product listing or even looking at the can before buying. Both products very clearly say "replacement" and "equivalent."
@WizardSoon
@WizardSoon 8 дней назад
Thank you very much Todd! I am sticking with r134a
@ProjectFarm
@ProjectFarm 8 дней назад
You are welcome! Thanks for the feedback.
@WizardSoon
@WizardSoon 8 дней назад
@@ProjectFarm I never knew it was a fire hazard. If your car caught fire, these r134a replacement will end up fueling the fire and burn your car down. Nope, not getting the natural gas r134a replacement. It's a hazard to me and should be banned.
@mcbraynor
@mcbraynor 5 дней назад
Did I ever mention how much I absolutely love your videos?
@ProjectFarm
@ProjectFarm 5 дней назад
Thanks so much!
@Reecharge
@Reecharge День назад
Vevor is my go to when I don’t want to spend ridiculous money on equipment, 1000% approve lol
@ProjectFarm
@ProjectFarm День назад
Thanks for sharing.
@Dysiode
@Dysiode 8 дней назад
10 minutes ago and still over 100 comments! Very Impressive! Edit: There's been some really impressive strides on propane based heat pumps, which is probably what the "alternatives" here are, but I definitely wouldn't want to use them in my car!
@ProjectFarm
@ProjectFarm 8 дней назад
Thank you!
@RATCHETMAN1001
@RATCHETMAN1001 8 дней назад
yep 20 gallons of gas underneath aint so good either
@ml.2770
@ml.2770 8 дней назад
FYI, isobutane/propane can replace r12 and r134 and works fantastic. It is a standard refridgerant in much of the world but banned in the USA for 'reasons'. It is legal in Canada and actually works better than r12 and goes by Duracool and Rektek. I'm not sure what your ZeroR actually is but the substitutes available in Canada are excellent. I changed all the gaskets and dryer in my 1991 r12 system in my Dodge pickup and charged it up with isobutane/propane Duracool and it has worked flawlessly now for over a decade. A refridgeration technician that told me about it said it is silly to ban it and that car ac systems in Europe use it as do household refrigerators. It has zero ozone depletion characteristics, doesn't leak out as easily and you need less of it to properly charge a system. r134 is flammable itself so that argument is moot.
@rdizzy1
@rdizzy1 8 дней назад
Zero R is just 99% LPG.
@brnmcc01
@brnmcc01 8 дней назад
R134A isn't flammable, R1234yf is very slightly flammable so it's classified as an A2L refrigerant. You can force R134A or R12 to burn, you just need a catalyst like hot copper wool to set it on fire and a constant heat source. But none of them can support combustion on it's own like R290 or R600.
@ml.2770
@ml.2770 8 дней назад
@@brnmcc01 My error. I meant to write 1234yf.
@brnmcc01
@brnmcc01 8 дней назад
@@ml.2770 No error, there's so many small variants of R1234. R1234ze is another newer one, supposedly a drop in replacement for R134A. But the COP is lower and modifications to the condenser and evaporator designs and to compressor displacement are needed to achieve the same cooling capacity and energetic performance of HFC-134a.
@brnmcc01
@brnmcc01 8 дней назад
And then there's R1233zd, but that's being used/developed as a replacement for R123 large commerical low pressure centrifugal chillers. Like in the old days of R11, and Trane CenTraVac systems. The new Trane Series E's in Europe are using R1233zd.
@taylorpetersen72
@taylorpetersen72 2 часа назад
Great job
@paullutkin477
@paullutkin477 7 дней назад
Excellent video as always 👌🏻🤘
@ProjectFarm
@ProjectFarm 7 дней назад
Thanks!
@tjf1531
@tjf1531 8 дней назад
Wonderful information
@ProjectFarm
@ProjectFarm 8 дней назад
Thank you very much!
@otarsulava
@otarsulava 8 дней назад
Suggested video: HYDRATION BACKPACKS - for hiking or cycling. Example brands: Water Buffalo, TETON, MARCHWAY, Camelbak, Thule, High Sierra....
@ProjectFarm
@ProjectFarm 8 дней назад
Thank you for the video idea!
@MapleHillMunitions
@MapleHillMunitions 8 дней назад
I've save you some time. Source hydration systems.
@ravingbadger
@ravingbadger 8 дней назад
good one
@usernameisusername
@usernameisusername 8 дней назад
I threw my camelback away. Pita to clean. Kinda a gross concept
@MapleHillMunitions
@MapleHillMunitions 8 дней назад
@@usernameisusername source has some coating inside that prevents buildup. I haven't bought anything since Israeli went to war though so good luck on shipping .
@garyheaton9926
@garyheaton9926 6 дней назад
Your the man!! As always!👍
@ProjectFarm
@ProjectFarm 6 дней назад
Thanks!
@Ghost225100
@Ghost225100 7 дней назад
Great video. Safety vids are always worthwhile
@ProjectFarm
@ProjectFarm 7 дней назад
Thanks!
@elivaughan1192
@elivaughan1192 8 дней назад
Great stuff. I didnt even know there were fake refrigerants... Good to know. Also.. i recently bought a tarp for a fair amount of money and it is junk... Maybe tarps could go on your list of tests one day? They can get quite expensive and you dont know what youll get until you get it and use it.
@ProjectFarm
@ProjectFarm 8 дней назад
Thank you for the video idea!
@MugRuith
@MugRuith 8 дней назад
Good idea.
@Discretesignals
@Discretesignals 8 дней назад
They are called blends. The EPA's SNAP program has a list of approved refrigerants to use in mobile ac systems. Those refrigerants have been tested and are considered safe to use.
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