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Should you BRAKE in Karting? (experiment) 

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@Pshady
@Pshady Год назад
I let my gf drive a two seater kart, and she went into a hairpin flat out like it was mariokart. I pulled hard on the steering wheel to slide the kart sideways and it stopped before the barriers. It is very common that people turn up and rent karts and expect to be able to drive full throttle the whole time.
@Hennerz_
@Hennerz_ Год назад
yeah man seen that first hand, scary stuff 😂😂
@de4ds1ghtcsgo94
@de4ds1ghtcsgo94 Год назад
Every corner gas that throttle sweet spot😂
@richardbradley3684
@richardbradley3684 Год назад
Maybe you just wasted her lap?
@mulletbubbles9909
@mulletbubbles9909 Год назад
You don't have to brake in rental karts only tight corners
@Steve-rz5fx
@Steve-rz5fx Год назад
​@@richardbradley3684 😂
@thiagoXXXmarinho
@thiagoXXXmarinho Год назад
Braking can also provide some oversteer that helps making some tight corners, specially on indoor tracks
@Christophe_L
@Christophe_L Год назад
My uncle raced karts. I was an impressionable kid back then, and when he told me he had lost the brakes during a race and then proceeded to win said race, I thought he must be the best driver in the world. Thank you for this 😂
@mattschm5486
@mattschm5486 Год назад
I saw an short interview with a former racedriver called Walther Rhöhrl and they asked about the most ignored driving skill nowadays. He answered finding the right entrance speed for a given corner. People carry too much speed at the entrance of the corner. So I guess braking helps
@raffaeledivora9517
@raffaeledivora9517 Год назад
"A" racedriver? Just one of the greatest driver of all time 😂
@mattschm5486
@mattschm5486 Год назад
@@raffaeledivora9517 i agree but probably not everyone knows him. Back then they even had some decent female drivers in the world rally championship. I’ve seen his old teammate stig blomquist driving a Quattro S1 E2 ones
@Traumglanz
@Traumglanz Год назад
Another Quote from Röhrl is: “When you see the tree you’re driving into you have understeer, but if you can heer it you have oversteer.” and “Driving starts when you steer your car with the gaspedal not with the steering wheel.” He certainly is great to quote and a legendary driver.
@Genervilz
@Genervilz Год назад
ex professional go-kart driver here (10+ years of experience), braking is the most important part of this sport, braking becomes even more important in the wet, and the way it has to be done can earn you tenths at every corner. However, in rental go-karts the brake is way less important, and with a little practice the difference between braking/not braking is zero.
@vaibhavmugulavalli3366
@vaibhavmugulavalli3366 Год назад
Just stumbled across you channel and actually really good tips on driving karts. Surprised to learn many new techniques
@kartingtips
@kartingtips Год назад
I appreciate your feedback!
@scionkai
@scionkai Год назад
this course and the skies look so beautiful
@gripp9k
@gripp9k Год назад
This is the result I would have expected but the analysis was cool. I really just use the brakes to turn the car; you can really control the rotation with trail braking in karts.
@exfkinley1406
@exfkinley1406 Год назад
Can we just take a moment to appreciate that sky🤩
@zakumi19
@zakumi19 Год назад
The sky was beautiful
@Eruption1O2
@Eruption1O2 Год назад
Brakes transfer weight to the front tires increasing their maximum grip
@jean-baptistedelbos8050
@jean-baptistedelbos8050 Год назад
Be specific, there may be a question with 4 stroke "public" karting. With competition karting, if you d'ont brake.....your race ends just after the first corner ;)
@cv1ra
@cv1ra Год назад
You see. When driving with my coach, at leats with the tracks i'm used to race - breaking is the key ofr being fast - specially when you have a hard turn before a long straight.
@elliotcowell3139
@elliotcowell3139 Год назад
if i tried not braking at my local track i would probably die lmfao
@SenneMeuleman
@SenneMeuleman Год назад
in mine you dont have to brake bruuh... the slowest corner is only a small lift hahahaha
@elliotcowell3139
@elliotcowell3139 Год назад
@@SenneMeuleman I've been to outdoor go kart tracks where it's nice and wide and yeah, but mine is a very tight and twisty indoor track with a sneaky little big braking zone at the end of the lap lmao
@SenneMeuleman
@SenneMeuleman Год назад
@@elliotcowell3139 ye mine is outdoor with long, fast corners. It gets a bit borig after going too much and not a lot of space to improve unless its raining, one of the most fun things i have done, with slicks in the rain, 0 grip its like ice
@elliotcowell3139
@elliotcowell3139 Год назад
@@SenneMeuleman I used to live in the north of england so I've done some rain karting haha, sideways constantly
@CHRISTAFJONESDVK
@CHRISTAFJONESDVK Год назад
You do a good job showing the difference between these and it showed by the end how much you were able to find the optimal entry speed to carry exit speed, I'm trying pushing and find the right limts and track knowledge by repeat visits, any tips?
@FoxM
@FoxM 3 месяца назад
How much is body weight a factor in karting? i weigh a little over 200lb and was a couple seconds behind smaller guy, im thinking maybe my weight was a factor rather than ability?
@Max_Snellink
@Max_Snellink Год назад
You'd use way more of the stop pedal if in a two stroke kart. Great video and narration.
@BrianSu
@BrianSu Год назад
Braking transfers weight to the front axle, hence more grip and less understeer
@Nepyragas
@Nepyragas Год назад
Usually first 5 laps are slower. Need to warm up tires and get yourself more aggressive. It would be fair to make such test with two sessions. Also different tracks react different. On some no breaking could be even faster than with breaking.
@joaomachado4359
@joaomachado4359 Год назад
Lol, first 5 laps are the quickest ones. Then the tracks starts to overheat and gets slower…. If you see in every race, the fastest lap is usually done in the first 5-10m
@Nepyragas
@Nepyragas Год назад
@@joaomachado4359 No, maybe with KZ2 or smth. But with ocasional 13 hp carts tires gets warm only in 3-4 laps. And then only you get faster and faster. And your fastest laps are in the end of the session.
@joaomachado4359
@joaomachado4359 Год назад
@@Nepyragas no! You just need 1 or 1,5 laps to warm up your tires! Im assuming that there are at least more 10-15 guys racing against you. Test it! Because i did! After 10m the times goes up at least 0,5seconds per lap
@scooble
@scooble Год назад
I also used brakes to control wheelspin instead of lifting off. It hooks up much quicker
@josedaniel1988
@josedaniel1988 Год назад
What if you invert the experiment order, fist 6 laps breaking. Tyres will be warmer when trying no braking
@Hannib4lBarca
@Hannib4lBarca Год назад
The real question is should you turn the wheel or not?
@rafaelzenieris7463
@rafaelzenieris7463 Год назад
So true. Went go karting last weekend. We had 3 stints. First 2 i was always trying to brake as less as possible and ended up drifting like crazy. At the end of the 2nd stint one of the responsibile guys told me to take the corners with easier cause im drifting and then i can go way faster. 3rd stint from 10th on quali I went 2nd with only a tenth down the first guy. Improved by 7tenths it was insane. My friends asked me wtf happened in the last stint haha
@josephcote7702
@josephcote7702 Год назад
why'd you compare one lap that wasn't affected by traffic to one lap that was? the lap without brakes was influenced heavily by that kart on the inside at @1:52. it put you way out of position, and that's what made you loose going into that next right hander.
@iconiccfs
@iconiccfs Год назад
Mate if you look at the end he showed a list of all the 14 laps he did and just took the fastest of both with and without breaks so try setting aside your bias and look at data and watch the full thing before jugdeing… don’t judge a book by its cover you know 🗿🗿🗿🗿🗿🗿🗿💀💀💀💀
@josephcote7702
@josephcote7702 Год назад
@@iconiccfs Yea, I saw that. I figured the two laps he did the side by side comparison were of those two fastest laps, no? And in that fastest no brakes lap, it showed he was compromised heavily in a couple positions. One, specifically, being @1:52, and then he incorrectly attributed him being out of position as "lifting unsettled the kart", when in reality, it was because he was out of position entering that complex. No bias here, I'm simply pointing out that he put forward flawed information. Were we even watching the same video?
@akev2794
@akev2794 Год назад
I think it depends on the track as well. Some indoor tracks e.g., Teamsports are grippy enough than you can almost entirely avoid braking.
@caesar485
@caesar485 Год назад
To be fair, there are tracks where you don't even have to lift, but can just go full throttle all the way. I've found that even there, lifting usually works, but it's not like this track where there are actual braking zones
@matevo7745
@matevo7745 Год назад
Just found your channel and i love it.
@oscar750
@oscar750 Год назад
Can it depend on the cart? For example when I go carting at my local track with renting carts I notice that the engine is much slower and accelerates slower after I brake than after I just lift into the corner. Is this a thing or am I just imagining things? I really need to know! Thanks!
@SenneMeuleman
@SenneMeuleman Год назад
electric carts accelerate faster, can compare the lines you have to take and the braking to f1, normal karts accelerate slower so you take the karting line, a wider line so you can keep your minimum speed higher and dont lose too much speed, so if your local karting track does not have electric karts you should indeed brake a lot less and take wider lines
@xhang98
@xhang98 Год назад
Please make a video talk about trail braking is useful in karting or not.
@kartingtips
@kartingtips Год назад
Stay tuned! It will be uploaded this weekend :)
@ibraheem128
@ibraheem128 Год назад
I wish Lusail had a membership scheme, 12 mins for more than 100qr is crazy 😭
@kartingtips
@kartingtips Год назад
Soon, hopefully!
@lissettearroyo4939
@lissettearroyo4939 Год назад
Well done video
@KomeBaja
@KomeBaja Год назад
If u pay for 2 pedal, then used both of that
@pasztorferenc6741
@pasztorferenc6741 Год назад
When I'd go karting for the first time towards the end I also tried it and suprised how fast can I without braking
@danielgomessilva8966
@danielgomessilva8966 Год назад
Nice graphics thou
@AbcdEfgh-sq2tf
@AbcdEfgh-sq2tf Год назад
What if you drive like Alonso? Turning the steering wheel a lot earlier and a lot more than usual?
@recarsion
@recarsion Год назад
Won't work in a kart, you lose a lot of speed that way. That driving style worked very well with the Renault F1 cars that Alonso drove because those cars had very stable rear ends which is the exact opposite of what a gokart normally does. Even Alonso changed his style with other cars that handled differently.
@justinmeade2327
@justinmeade2327 Год назад
Wouldn’t really help here. Also Alonso only did that back in his first stint with Renault when they used the Michelin tyres. They had a more square profile and took a lot to get temp into them. He would purposefully induced under steer to heat up the fronts for better grip. It was a technique really specific to that car and those types of the time.
@richardbradley3684
@richardbradley3684 Год назад
Maybe this is why raacing cars have brakes.
@santoskartracing
@santoskartracing Год назад
top
@Denverian
@Denverian Год назад
in a go karting one should learn that brakes are used to set the car & rotate the car before entering a corner. Other than that brake is only used to bring the car to a stop.
@stephent2243
@stephent2243 11 месяцев назад
Yeah don't try this in a proper race kart or superkart. You'll be upside down in the barriers.
@anabolicznyjanusz8425
@anabolicznyjanusz8425 Год назад
I have 7 years racing experience. I remember I always have problem with brake in chasis . Even I can not stop on the start line xD and I must brake on the start line with my legs on the tire xD . But this shity chassis give me experience with sliding breaking. It's funny because without brakes I can overtaking another drive on the breaking.
@SeraphsWitness
@SeraphsWitness Год назад
As they say, you don't use brakes to slow the car down into a turn, but to speed the car up out of a turn.
@TheSnaveeelPlaysGames
@TheSnaveeelPlaysGames Год назад
Because braking isn’t designed to slow you down; it’s designed to keep you fast
@annaovezova1638
@annaovezova1638 Год назад
Where is this beautiful track located? Looks like perfect spot for my husbands bd 😍
@kartingtips
@kartingtips Год назад
This is the Lusail Karting Track in Qatar :)
@user-kb8gh5jv9t
@user-kb8gh5jv9t Год назад
I don’t understand why todays younger generation thinks that they are having to reinvent the wheel!? We knew all this long ago…🤔
@kartingtips
@kartingtips Год назад
You’d be surprised at how many comments there on my braking videos saying ‘you don’t need to brake in karting’ hence the reason I created this video 😄
@user-kb8gh5jv9t
@user-kb8gh5jv9t Год назад
@@kartingtips , if that’s the case than we are in even more trouble in the World than I originally thought!😳
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