Should you buy the Behemoth? New 100 ton Assault! - German Mechgineering

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The new legendary mech Behemoth is an Inner Sphere version of the Stone Rhino. At 100 tons of total weight its defining features are the ultra-high mounted ballistic weapons, which are also one of the mech's greatest weaknesses. I'm going to give this a real shot with a classic well-performing combination of twin UAC5s and twin UAC10s for double tap dakka. In this video guide you'll get a quick overview of the build, see how it is best played in the game, and then I will guide you through the setup and build process as well as share tips&tricks specific to the mech. Enjoy!
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00:00 Intro and Match 1
06:03 Match 2
10:44 Match 3
14:32 Build and Discussion
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@TTBprime 17 дней назад

Build: A8j820k1|7P|i^|LG|jb|i^pC1|N@|1@qC1|N@|1@r00sB0|7P|LO|hO|8Pt\0|LO|7Pu\0|LO|7PvB0|7Pw101010 Skills: af715cd9d754e28679a4bffff6f0480020c040000a043264a10018020201c

@ArkLord001 17 дней назад

50 armor in the legs you say. My 76 pinpoint Summoner will LOVE those legs. I tend to take legs off of everything. 1) it can't chase me down if it's missing a leg. 2) all mechs die faster when you sweep the legs off. For example, if you had ripped the leg off that Viper instead of farming, you would have likely kept your torso in that match. Thanks for the info on it. Much appreciated as is the content.

@aka-47k 15 дней назад

i went with 2 uac 10 and 2 Light AC5 this way i could fit a light engine in and you get freedom for stuff like jumpjets, ams and 5 er med or 5 small lasers wichever you prefer. sure the 4 ballistic do only 50 alpha instead of 60, but at least the light AC cant jam lol

@joseantonioberenguer182 17 дней назад

I love the upper position of the weapons, where there is light / mediums mechs of your team in front of you disturbing you can shoot safele the upper weapons.

@darthtaxus3567 17 дней назад

Ugh. This one is such a struggle. I’ve tried a LOT of builds. Best I did was a 4xLAC5 and 5MPLS but it was soooo slow, then the other best was 4RAC2 and 3MLas but too much facetime with those side torsos. Fighting my way through the Battlepass. The Ferroblast is so stupid fun though.

@TimberWulfIsHere 17 дней назад

on a warhammer...?

@jonjon3829 16 дней назад

i liked 2xrac5 2xac5

@sailorjerry4435 17 дней назад

Oh, you back stab TTB, no no no my friend, TTB BACK STAB YOU!🤣🤣🤣.

@JD-hv6us 15 дней назад

Great review. I am a big stone rhino fan but struggled brutally to make this mech work as well.

@kingslaphappy1533 16 дней назад

Valid points and well demonstrated. I don’t often play assaults but I see the same loadout as a Madcat Mark 2 B except 10 tons heavier than the Mk 2 ,slower, and less agile.

@Llewellyon 17 дней назад

I’ve had some limited luck with a dual HG/5 ERML build. Can fit three JJ, so mainly good for pop-tarting, although there are probably other IS mechs that do the same thing better. Definitely needs a quirk pass.

@bsg7580 16 дней назад

Wolf's Dragoon's tag on that leg! Nice video as always

@ratatosk001 16 дней назад

Thanks for the tip. I don't think I'll be getting it. Also, is it just me or is 2xUAC10 and 2xUAC 5 just a little bit underwhelming on a 100 ton behemoth the size of mount Everest?

@NinjaContravaniaManX 16 дней назад

Absolutely. I can run the same build on a SR-1, but with an additional laser vomit hellbringer (2x HLL 4x ERML) strapped to the mech if I wanted to. Yes, it runs very hot and is borderline unplayable, but swap the UAC's out for 4x C-AC10 and you have a solid build.

@ratatosk001 16 дней назад

@@NinjaContravaniaManX Yeah, but I can put 4xAC10s plus an ER-PPC on a KDK-3? The mounts on the SR looks good at first glance, but as TTB demonstrates it is a massive friggin hump and you still don´t shoot very good over obstacles even though you should be able to. With the KDK at least, if I can see it I can get my ballistics on it without first exposing half of Canada. Edit: I have the SR-1 but I put AC-2s on it only. I do enjoy that build to some extent, but in general the mech just feels ... weird. I´m only T2 and not an awesome player by any means, so it might be how I play it.

@NinjaContravaniaManX 16 дней назад

@@ratatosk001 I also have the KDK-3, bought it specifically for the high mounted Dakka hardpoints, but that mech somehow feels so sluggish, I can't stand it no matter how good the hardpoints are and actually prefer the SR-1 even if it has similar agility stats. I really don't know what it is, I just can't perform consistently in the KDK-3. I may be Tier 1, but I'm far from the best (really started playing a few month ago after hiatus in 2013 when the game just wouldn't run smoothly on my PC). In fact, I have no clue how I got there and often have the feeling I shouldn't be there. Guess the tier system in this game is... wierd... Oh, and btw, I also like to run my quad AC10 with ERPPCs somtimes, but my SR-1 can bring 2 of them. :P

@ratatosk001 16 дней назад

@@NinjaContravaniaManX Well, it may be weird and also some people are just good at getting the game. That´s not a big secret. You´re T1 because you deserve to be T1, most likely. I play for giggles, as much as I love Battletech and I often play while having a beer or 3. I´m not really super serious about tiers and even if I was, I would not be able to hold my own against good players. That being said, I agree that the KDK-3 is sluggish and also feels odd. I never made it work for me either (in MWO), even if I love the design and lore and all. The only assault mech I love is the Atlas, and that one I love SO much! Especially the Kraken and the Warlord. But the one and only mech for me, the one that really "feels" good, is my TBR-BH(S).

@NinjaContravaniaManX 16 дней назад

@@ratatosk001 I aboslutely love my Atlas, too. I wish I had more hero mechs, only bought the Ilya Muromets and the 2 Dragon heroes back when there weren't many heroes, mainly to support to game in its early stage. Maybe I should spend more money some day. A few mech bays wouldn't hurt I guess. I really want to support the BT franchise and I can hear the call of the Kraken... whatever, I hope MW5 Clans will be epic, I will definately buy that on day 1.

@Verradin 16 дней назад

It frustrates me so much that this Stone Rhino is remarkably underwhelming. The Bullshark release was amazing so they clearly understand how to make a great Inner Sphere assault mech... What the hell happened here?

@rossgray8935 12 дней назад

Seeing 2-3 brand new cash only mechs on the other team makes running a flea just another layer of satisfaction. If they made a jenner or pir id be tempted.

@Aedryel 16 дней назад

A *CENSORED* sticker would have been hillarious from 12:42

@TTBprime 16 дней назад

great idea!

@docwashere3466 15 дней назад

The way I see it, it's like a Stone Rhino becoming a knockoff Fafnir. Has almost similar hardpoint layout, but somehow more awkward hardpoint placement with almost very little to compensate for it (such as ECM).

@Geryfon 16 дней назад

Tricky one to build for, I've been finding my groove with dual Silver Bullet Gauss and dual Heavy PPC

@jonjon3829 14 дней назад

would be nice if you could put the hppc on top, so one additional energy hardpoint in each torso

@estiangaming2448 17 дней назад

The high mounts screwing this thing over reminds me of an occasional problem with the marauder 2 and the king crab where I think im in cover but because thier shoulders are so god dang broad and the cockpit is beneath a good portion of the mech I get shot at when I cant see them causing me to run away to further cover. But with this thing the problem is far more pronounced. like you said with the annihilator (or with other humanoid mechs) you know when you are

@gfarrell80 16 дней назад

I've seen Cyclops with the 2xUAC10, 2xUAC5 build. Seems like for a 100 tonner you could put some more juice on it. Or maybe go 4xUAC5, with light PPC's in the arms. Quad light gauss maybe?

@unforgivencaleb528 16 дней назад

I really like the Stone Rhino, but I saw the Behemoth as a worse version of the Stone Rhino. Looks like I was right. I'll be saving my $15 for the Ferroblast. Always wanted a giant Flea.

@thegoondockswarcouncil9543 16 дней назад

It’s amazing that thousands of years in the future, with interstellar travel and other technological marvels, they still have not invented cameras or other scopes that can be located at convenient places on the mech, like where the weapons are. Instead, we get a cockpit window only. Hell, even 20th century battle tanks can do better than that.

@NeoRocket001 16 дней назад

So hopefully in a future patch they could buff both side torsos? Maybe 10 more for a quirk plus of +30 instead of the +20?

@Hedron-Design 16 дней назад

When I want to run a classic UAC5 UAC10 combo I go with my Madcat IIC. For whatever reason I rarely lose an arm which is odd considering the cannons are all arm mounted. I would expect people to be gunning for them all the time. The slow torso would drive me nuts on the Behemoth. But then again I am not such a great player lol.

@michael8985 16 дней назад

Is there any news on pilot progression in mw5 clans I can't wait for this game in so pumped. Most of my friends don't like mechwarrior games but they are my favourite I grew up with them and love setting up mechs for different missions but hope for a little deeper pilot progression. Piranha doesn't release much info but I look every day

@seanbarber6283 16 дней назад

I also regret buying it in its current condition

@jonjon3829 10 дней назад

I'm using 2x lb20x 2x heavy ppc, its not ...bad, hot and underpowered but so far the best out of all loadouts that I tried: 2x uac5 2x uac10, heavy gauss, even a chadoken clone.

@mikeowns8750 16 дней назад

Couleur you try using 3rd person and shooting over the same obstacle?

@ax310n 17 дней назад

I did get its event done in one nights play. Never got great numbers with it an regret the purchase. For the price Blackhawk is much more fun an oddly more survivable than this.

@ghoulbuster1 17 дней назад

I'm thinking this mech should get a nice unique quirk like ballistic HSL +1

@ghoulbuster1 16 дней назад

Could get a 20% range quirk too

@drewcathey304 16 дней назад

how are you getting the armor so High I can only get 104 on torso

@adamrandell7946 17 дней назад

Need to camo this mech, yep. White, never see me coming...

@papafoundry5537 17 дней назад

Bought this mech first day because I’m a stone rhino fanboy. The build I settled on was 2 LB20s and 2 snub nose ppcs runs hot but it was the best build I could come up with that was performing alright 😅

@jonjon3829 16 дней назад

this thing must get better quirks

@h4rdboiled695 16 дней назад

I cant imagine going less than 60kph in this game and having fun at the same time. I have 1 Stone Rhino with 4AC10, 2Plasma, 1JJ, velocity quirk. and goes just under 60kph. Whats the point of the Behemoth apart from some random IS builds with less weapons and heatsinks than the Clans versions.

@mike-dz8ms 16 дней назад

они просто не стали тебя убивать, а ты радуешься как конь... могу ошибаться, но я так увидел

@NinjaContravaniaManX 16 дней назад

Meh, I think I'll keep playing the Clan Stone Rhino then. Same problems, but at least it has more firepower (clan space magic) and some quirks. Also, I wonder why the high mounts are such a problem here, but the Marauder II has the same problem and is often considered "bEsT 100t iN Da gaEM!!!"

@kryptonianguest1903 16 дней назад

The Marauder II weapon pod isn't quite this high above the rest of the mech.

@NinjaContravaniaManX 16 дней назад

@@kryptonianguest1903 I don't feel that difference very much tbh. I have both mechs and find myself in the same unpleasant situations with both of them to a point where I prefer side peaking.

@mike-dz8ms 16 дней назад

не вешай сердечко на на мех, пока нельзя

@sentinelmoonfang 17 дней назад

The side-peeking is the way. I do a lot of stuff in the Aksum and have been in the top 50-ish on the leaderboard the last few seasons. Even the Clan version can't peek vertically. Vertical peeking is already rough if you're doing it at a dead-on angle since no horizontal movement means people can much more precisely cluster their damage on a single component (similar to running straight at people in a light), but it's even nastier with the Stone Rhino since they can shoot before you do. You can have some more luck exposing at an angle, like using ramps parallel to the canyon on Canyon Network, for instance, but it's going to be rough regardless. With Inner Sphere skills you have more armor than the Clan version, but more armor is not a substitute for just not getting shot because you can get out of harm's way faster. It's like Mr. Miyagi said. Best defense is no be there. It's also no substitute for killing way faster. Normally I think the IS vs. Clan balance disparity is overblown, but not in this case. The Behemoth seems just bad. The issue with the rock was naturally that if your reticle is on the thing, stuff will converge to hit a target at that distance instead of shooting over the rock like they should. It's often why you get convergence fuckery at long range, since you're leading a target and the weapons will try to converge where your crosshair is intersecting the ground at like 1300 meters, even though your target is at 1000 meters. The result is your shots are spaced out super far. It's weird that in the 31st century they haven't figured out to set convergence for the target you're locked onto. Honestly, I was kind of looking forward to this mech to try a chassis I've liked since I was a kid with some new loadouts, but I agree. It's fully not worth it.

@JSRLPadre 17 дней назад

Noooo! Not Mclaine!!!

@fcvanilla7293 16 дней назад

Why are you shooting your torso weapons with arms unlocked?

@NinjaContravaniaManX 16 дней назад

Maybe because it's super annoying rotating the torso of a sluggish assault mech with arms locked, especially when playing low sens? Yes, it doesn't rotate any faster with arms unlocked, but at least I can wait for the torso to catch up to my arm movement and don't have to swipe my mouse across the desk all the time like a madman due to the rotation cap. PGI just hasn't figured out mouse sensivity in games yet, maybe give them another decade or so. And who knows, maybe in 30 years, they'll realize that advanced zoom sens is way too high as well...

@Hedron-Design 16 дней назад

Many players do torso only weapons with arms unlocked. you can basically "Pre-Aim" with the arm reticle and then as soon as the torso snaps to that spot you fire. It does take some brain practice to coordinate the reticles but it is worth it. It also "feels" good for fast twisting after firing. And in some cases helps with leading a steady moving target. Some even use the arm reticle for leading a mech, part of that pre aiming I was referring to. I am limited at that usage.

@NinjaContravaniaManX 16 дней назад

@@Hedron-Design Exactly. It takes a while to get used to it, but after 700h in MWO and 2000 in MW5, you got it down. Masterclass I guess would be shooting 2 targets at once or, for example, leading your arm-mounted RAC5s with the arm reticle while your torso reticle is placed directly on the enemy mech and lets you do direct damage with torso-mounted lasers.

@darrenskjoelsvold 15 дней назад

Show me a build on this mech that you can't do and likely do better on a Mauler.

@foamyesque 11 дней назад

Anything with jumpjets. In principle the Behemoth should allow Sphere big ballistic builds to become jump capable (dual HGR, dual LBX20s) in a way they weren't before; the only other Sphere machine with a ballistic slot in each ST and jumpjets is the Victor 9A1, which is 20t lighter. I don't think it's *enough* to make the mech strong, but you can make a flying Warlord. The problem is -- well, if you're spending money anyway, why are you getting the *Sphere* legendary SR when you could get the *Clan* one, as the Aksum is one of the strongest assaults in the game?

@darrenskjoelsvold 11 дней назад

@foamyesque OK I will grant you the JJs but other than jump jets I can do pretty much anything with a Mauler and do so without spending money or MC.

@N1NJ4P1R4T3 16 дней назад

UAC always just feels less reliable and hotter than ac and shotgun ac

@NEANDERTHAL778 16 дней назад

bust.... i can put this build on my other Stone Rhynos..

@chrisr251 16 дней назад

I'm sorry, but UACs are just too inconsistent for me to use. I have had them jam on the first shot, and been left with no viable weapons for up to 15 seconds. Not just once. But several times in a row. In a mech that was quirked and skilled for them. I know they have to have a jam chance for balancing purposes. Bit it is far too capricious for me to ever consider using them at this point.

@Slider93 17 дней назад

I wish the devs actually made some other shootable body shapes. That weapon pod on top is obvious yet it is.. A LT RT related?? HOW ITS ABOVE THE HEAD!

@Adalon- 17 дней назад

Because game balance.

@ghoulbuster1 17 дней назад

Kinda wish those cannon mounts too a bit less damage like 10%

@nekonekomikan 16 дней назад

I love the way it looks, but it sounds worse than a Black Knight. I'm sad I must pass on it.

@laggybum3218 17 дней назад

I wont buy it because I'm not a big mech fan. I prefer smaller faster mechs.

@SheyD78 17 дней назад

Bad mech design again, from an MWO point of view. Cockpit should be further back up the ct, the weapons pod should be split in 2 and lower to the shoulder if not in the shoulder. Also the structure and quirks are lacking. What reason is there to run this over any other assault that can run the same weaponry?

@kryptonianguest1903 16 дней назад

Agree with you about the quirks. That other stuff was all already determined by Battletech tabletop years ago.