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Should you go to Art School? What are the benefits, drawbacks, and experiences with traditional art school vs. alternative art learning? One year after graduating, I speak with ‪@nauseousdog‬ and we discuss our experience with attending a public university over an art school and how our choices have affected our art, career, and finances.
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0:00 Intro
0:39 Making the Cookie Dough
6:06 Thank you to Squarespace!
7.34 Where we went to School + Scholarships
9:19 What is an Art School?
12:30 Benefits of Art School: Networking, Focus, Rigorous Education
15:20 Portfolio is most Important
15:55 The Price... yikes
19:55 Course Specifications is a benefit of Art School
20:49 Self Advocacy is the Biggest Aspect of School
21:20 Use the "free resources"
23:38 You don't have to major in art to be an artist!
25:00 Online Learning
27:00 Talk to your Professors
30:34 There is no Specific Timeline
33:30 Final Thoughts
36:50 Outro

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@sketchesofshay 6 месяцев назад

Art school can be a great way to level up your skills, network, and launch your career, but it's equally as valid to take a different path and still be successful! I hope our experiences and insights graduating from public universities and still learning a lot helps to inform you if you are deciding to pursue a higher education in the arts.

@ashleypisarts 4 месяца назад

Hey!! I’m a junior in high school and I want to pursue a higher education in the arts, specifically visual arts and graphic design! I have a quick question: for graphic design, would it be a good idea to take an AP computer science class my senior year so that I’m familiar with computers and stuff? I’m sorry for the random question lol but I feel that this would be a good place to ask! :)

@gaygaymer 6 месяцев назад

Im someone with social anxiety and hearing you say that its not bothering them its literally their job helped so much. thats something that holds me back in school even now and its just like DUH theyre literally here to answer questions and help those that need it.

@sketchesofshay 6 месяцев назад

exactly!! I struggled with that so much (and honestly still do) but it's worth to yourself and your art to ask for help or get as much feedback as possible!! and after you do it a couple times it gets a lot easier!

@Nommii_ 6 месяцев назад

CAN WE TALK ABOUT HOW CUTE THE CHIBI ART IS ON THE THUMBNAIL 😍😍😭ITS SO CUTE AND JELLY OMGG MY HEART 🤗😭😭😭

@sketchesofshay 6 месяцев назад

hehe thank you!! Really want to experiment with more hand drawn thumbnails

@veronicaroman2085 4 месяца назад

Honestly you mentioning art school has definitely helped me have a idea what it’s like and tbh I’m very grateful, that I chose to not go because it seems overwhelming and plus I self taught my self how to draw for so many years that I now get asked if ill ever go to art school and study which my answer always ends being no because I do have family who are also artists who I sometimes or rarely ask for help with but I mostly use books or the internet to teach me because of all our different art styles so I guess for me there isn’t really a need for me to go unless if they did have a business program for me to learn from or to study.

@leticiaoliveira6630 6 месяцев назад

I LOVE YOU GUYS SO MUCH!! there's nothing better than sitting in front of the pc and watch your videos while crocheting!! i absolutely love this, thx for the video :DDDD

@sketchesofshay 6 месяцев назад

that means a lot!! Happy to know I have a crocheter in my audience !! thank you so much for watching💖

@candy_torchic 6 часов назад

The part where you talked about there being no specific timeline for learning and becoming an artist really stuck out to me. I’m going to be a senior in high school next year and I went into high school thinking that I was going to take art all 4 years. My freshman year was the first year back at school in-person after the pandemic and I struggled in all my classes that year, art especially. I ended the year with a D in art because I was always behind on work and couldn’t catch up, I felt terrible and I was too ashamed to try and continue with art the next year. My mental health has improved so much since then, but now that I haven’t taken any art classes since my freshman year (I still draw as a hobby), I have been feeling a bit depressed, feeling like I should’ve continued with art back then. I saw so many beautiful pieces that art students at my school have made in the past year and I felt like I couldn’t catch up. I’ve been more motivated recently to continue drawing and watching your videos ,and this one specifically, has helped me feel so much better. I think I’m going to try emailing my school’s art teacher and ask if I can continue with art next year, thank you for motivating me to keep learning :).

@mrpotatoeandmrtomatoe 6 месяцев назад

OMG THE GAME THEORY MERCH LET'S GOOOOOOOOOOO !!!!!!!

@critiqueofthegothgf 6 месяцев назад

im not even an art major but this was so informative lol. it's awesome that you took the time to mention bright futures, as you never know who it might help. it feels a bit weird/funny knowing im going to UCF, and you both graduated from there lol

@sketchesofshay 6 месяцев назад

I hope you have a good time at UCF! Go knights! wishing you the best in whatever you study! 💖

@drawingfandome 6 месяцев назад

As someone who goes to an art college outside of networking the main selling points are 1.) whole ciriculum caters to art so even non art focused classes find ways to tie it back into art (history classes are art history, no math class, science classes are science of color ect.) 2.) resources for example my school has a huge library of art books, comics and offers student use of a riso printer, art studios, light boxes, various paper cutters, and all computers have all adobe programs downloaded and students are given free access to them ect. 3.) more niche classes, when all classes cater to art they can afford to have more niche specific art based electives bc they don’t have to have other subjects to take up class listing. For example at my school you can take such classes as - a printing (using riso printer) and zine making class - history of animation or history of comics classes - various political classes revolving around art and politics (art and lgbtq+ classes, or art and feminism for example) - classes where we literally just go to museums and draw - an elective on toy making Etc ect. And 4.). Big names, many art schools have famous people teaching at them as art alone can not pay the bills so your fav artists probably seek out teaching at art specific schools as side work, for example one of my professors very talented man, mentioned he worked on code names kids next store back in the day. Well this may seem like having a teacher like this is only more useful for networking, it’s also useful because it allows you to have teacher will a wider more diverse portfolio on their backs, meaning they can teach you more stuff your art will benefit from. (Which shows bc some of my teachers who didn’t work on any large famous projects at my school have actively taught me less, than my teacher who worked on kids next door, cus he had more valuable experience under his belt to provide to us my art has benefited from) Granted all this cost more money and I 100% agree with your message of getting the art education you can afford coming first. 😊

@sketchesofshay 6 месяцев назад

That’s great!! It’s always so valuable to learn from working professionals. Just wish it didn’t come with such a steep price tag. Thank you for sharing your insight!

@omniabadr3533 6 месяцев назад

The thing that makes me happy most about RU-vid is your videos. You are truly a lovely person, and I love your drawing very much, and I hope to become a creative artist like you.

@sketchesofshay 6 месяцев назад

thank you so much! I wish you the best in your own journey!

@voseybeans 5 месяцев назад

this was very helpful! i was actually stressing out about this earlier today lol cuz of all the family ive been seeing lately and people asking about what i wanna do for college. it’s a good reminder to hear theres no one path, thank you!

@sketchesofshay 5 месяцев назад

glad I could give you a bit of reassurance! only you know what you are passionate about and value in you life. don't let the expectations of others be your goal.

@emanuelle1081 6 месяцев назад

this was such a good conversation to listen to! the thought of only being able to pursue something as a career if you have a degree is so antiquated with the world we live in nowadays, there are a lot of resources all around the internet and many cheaper options to learn about art (or about anything really, doesn't need to be just art).

@sketchesofshay 5 месяцев назад

exactly!

@critiqueofthegothgf 6 месяцев назад

40 minute bake and draw banger right before Christmas. ive been blessed

@sketchesofshay 6 месяцев назад

Hehe so happy you like it !!

@2seo4k 6 месяцев назад

for me, i personally love my art college because of the teachers and the classes that are structured around the majors you're in. literally the only issue i have about my art college is the administration, they make the college experience much more stressful. sadly, we can't really do anything about it :/ but otherwise that issue, its great for me personally i've made a lot of friends that helped me get through my struggles with art

@sketchesofshay 6 месяцев назад

Thank you for sharing your insight! I’m glad you have enjoyed art college and that it was a great fit for you 💖

@2seo4k 6 месяцев назад

@@sketchesofshay ofc! it was a fun video to watch hearing what you had to say about it too :]

@Number1LafayetteSimp--Fan 6 месяцев назад

WAIT..HELP THE MUSIC YOU USED AT THE BEGGINNINGGGGGG..IT GAVE ME SO MUCH NOSTALGIA BCS MY OLD FAV ARTIST USED IT FOR HER INTROS ALOT

@BookWormNat 6 месяцев назад

Oh my gosh! I also went to UCF! I went for Art Education. The VAB was one of my favorite buildings and I really liked the art classes I took :)

@sketchesofshay 6 месяцев назад

a fellow knight! the VAB is the best!

@pancakes985 6 месяцев назад

im gonna wake up at 6am for this💪💪

@ChronicAl1y_Bitter 6 месяцев назад

This was honestly helpful- I’m considering applying to an art school, but I’m also satisfied with not going one (I like my other pick) so rn I’m procrastinating on the portfolio 💀 and overall i kinda look up to this channel 😯. Your pieces are so good and your commentary includes actual advice and gave me more to think about. Nice work👍

@sketchesofshay 6 месяцев назад

Glad we could offer a bit of insight!! Best of luck in whatever you decide to pursue !

@Number1LafayetteSimp--Fan 6 месяцев назад

CANT WAIT!

@internetfae 6 месяцев назад

i love your videos so much! really helped me get back into the spirit of drawing

@critiqueofthegothgf 6 месяцев назад

I love the way this one was edited. especially the intro!

@curtis_sss 6 месяцев назад

genuinely i am in love with these new videos your posting! they are so interesting and lovely, and yall give such good advice!

@sketchesofshay 6 месяцев назад

Im so happy you like them!! Im always a little apprehensive with posting these more personal things😅

@samhitas7901 6 месяцев назад

I absolutely love how real your videos are

@apollo3148 4 месяца назад

Honestly, with my running out of time before I have to choose a college or university (my country's school system doesn't really care for art much) I'm just scared, the thing I'm only really good at is art and the expectations of family are terrifying to me. especially with the way getting a job today seems almost impossible? these videos give me a look into both good and bad but damn the bad sides feed into my fears for my future. its crazy at this point

@sketchesofshay 4 месяца назад

i just want to tell you, whatever choice you make, there is no rush to completely figure everything out. I really felt the same way when I was graduating. If you are able to get scholarships and get school paid for you, then college really may help you figure what you want to do and explore with your career. There is no shame in going to a community college and getting a non-art degree for stability reasons. There are so many artists who do this and are successful without getting an art degree. And there are so many great online, cheaper art courses directly from professionals that you can take alongside your degree. Here is a great video of resources that could help you! ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-EnKLvuKVlgQ.htmlsi=zHpup45LSXvYZVfa I am wishing you the best in whatever you decide, you got this, there are no wrong choices, just different paths

@Babybearcroche 6 месяцев назад

You and your bf are such goals

@beegray889 6 месяцев назад

I am about to start the video, but I just wanted to say: these bake and draw videos are so fun! I love the cozy atmosphere that they have, and appreciate all the chatting that happens while you draw and bake!

@sketchesofshay 6 месяцев назад

I’m so happy you enjoy them!! They’re really fun to make and they break up my channel content a bit, I feel like it keeps things interesting ya know? 😅

@iprefermadneto 6 месяцев назад

GOOOO KNIGHHTTTS!!!! I loved going in the Arts building, especially when there was a gallery show going on. I majored in Creative Writing/minored in Theatre there

@sketchesofshay 6 месяцев назад

YAYYY that’s awesome!!

@phibbyyy 6 месяцев назад

I love this video topic! When I was younger I always wanted to go to a school like SCAD but I’ve been going to UCF for art and there are lots of great people and opportunities there!

@sketchesofshay 6 месяцев назад

UCF is great! the biggest thing I miss from UCF is probably the people and faculty. super friendly and passionate!

@Tomcat_Centauri 6 месяцев назад

Art School is okay if you have time and you can afford it ( like i don't know how expensive it is in the US, but it's not worth getting 10 years worth of debts over ) but it's NOT necessary. The only Art Schools that are worth it because the Teachers are industry-specialists with a lot of connexions are probably really expensive and not necessarily in your Country. With social medias nowadays, there are enough Art groups out there where you can post your stuff and receive feedback and corrections from even professionals, there are fantastic channels on youtube to follow and many industry-profesionnals offering online courses. I think Art Schools are becoming seriously overrated, and should up their Game if they don't want to become a thing of the past. I went to an Art School and we had a few good Teachers, but i feel like i mostly wasted my time by going over things i had already learned by myself, and it didn't lend me a job in the Art industry afterwards, so i can't say i'd recommend it.

@sketchesofshay 6 месяцев назад

I completely agree with this! Teachers who have had industry experience are so important to learn from, I was constantly bugging my illustrator professor about everything ! but you are totally right and I share a similar experience with you

@extracoffeemug 6 месяцев назад

This was an amazing insight and tips (also a great cookie recipe, might try it later today yum!) Thank you so much for giving me more information about colleges over there and how it works. 😊

@sketchesofshay 6 месяцев назад

I’m so helpful this gave a little insight! It’s definitely a bit of a mess over here in the States, so sharing everything we know is key to choosing the best option!

@ChantelleArts 6 месяцев назад

Loving these more vlog style videos ❤❤

@sketchesofshay 6 месяцев назад

So happy you like them!! I really like editing videos like this hehe 💖

@bbnique1234 6 месяцев назад

Loved the video Shay 🌸🌸 I used to struggle with a lot of acne during my early 20s, and eventually found out I had PCOS which was causing my acne. I've been put on medication since and my skin improved so much!! (Among other things) so there may be a treatment out there to help the root cause of the acne

@sketchesofshay 6 месяцев назад

Thank you for the advice ! I have been on Spironolactone for the last couple months which has helped but hasn’t totally cleared everything up.. and I really don’t want to go on birth control (I tried it in the past and it did nothing to my acne smh). I’m trying a new cleansing method right now and it’s been reducing a tonnn of inflammation. We’ll see!

@bbnique1234 6 месяцев назад

@@sketchesofshay I tired birth control as well and to me it was worse than not taking it at all. Hopefully the new cleansing routine helps you out enough to not need any other medication xx

@OpheliaPotions 6 месяцев назад

Hi! I really love your art and the way you render your drawings. ❤ If I can ask.. could you please make a tutorial on how you draw faces? Or.. what advices you can give to someone to draw them? Thank you

@sketchesofshay 6 месяцев назад

hi!! thank you so much! here is a video where I explain how I learned anatomy: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-3nXjGbICyNU.htmlsi=jENd0CMcaGCvXAr_

@bitterscotch6794 6 месяцев назад

Shay you are my favourite artists and never fail to inspire me. I was wondering if you could give me some advice? I really like sketching and creating art pieces but whenever I want to paint something I just am too scared of failing so I don't end up putting paint to canvas.

@sketchesofshay 6 месяцев назад

That really means a lot to me!! As for the painting advice, since it seems you really like sketching, I would say to use that to your advantage!! Plan something out, make a ton of sketches. Make a cleaner sketch, and then match to fit the size your painting at (I use a grid method) and transfer to your canvas. Do some color thumbnails as well, find a palette you like. I’d also recommend to do a little sketchy painting to make things a little less scary and to give yourself more information to go off of when you paint on actual canvas. And once you finally have this prep work, I’d recommend choosing a color from the palette that you have already chosen, and then use it as a base layer ! This gets rid of the pure white canvas and makes it much more approachable. It takes time and practice getting used to painting on canvas but I know you got this! I struggled with the same thing and I always found that planning really helps 💖

@majorblx4410 6 месяцев назад

Hi merry christmas🎉

@sketchesofshay 6 месяцев назад

Merry Christmas!

@moniker4008 6 месяцев назад

I like dis

@Aquatwin22 6 месяцев назад

hOLD UP..... IM A UCF ALUM TOO?!?!?! FUCK im so jealous, you really made the most of things. I feel like ucf didnt really train us to be business people with art. they taught art stuff but not the industry things

@sketchesofshay 6 месяцев назад

That’s so true. I really had to ask around and learn things on my own from online. RU-vid was my main resource!! There are so many professional artists on here giving their experience and insight

@Uhyeahinthefacewhy 2 месяца назад

Yo! Thats crazy! My favorite artist on youtube is in the same state as me?? Ive heard of the knights! Id love to check it out, man it would so rad to cross paths with you! I plan on going to college in arts as well, youre so inspiring >_