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Should you learn Italian before Latin? 🇮🇹 

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@RexGalilae
@RexGalilae 3 года назад
I love how they're sitting in descending order of hair length from left to right :D
@ItsameAlex
@ItsameAlex 2 года назад
hahaha:D
@josh_k_austin
@josh_k_austin 3 года назад
I am Japanese and learned Italian in the first year in University, and Latin in the second. The knowledge of Italian was very helpful in learning Latin and by getting acquaintances with Latin I am able to understand not only Italian but also English.
@AnthonyGrain--
@AnthonyGrain-- 3 года назад
おめでとう ! What about french ?
@josh_k_austin
@josh_k_austin 3 года назад
@@AnthonyGrain-- ありがとう! I am studying French. now I am reading french translation of the original Latin text of Saint Augustine. I can also compare it with that of Italian language, which also helps me so much
@AnthonyGrain--
@AnthonyGrain-- 3 года назад
@@josh_k_austin すごい ! I'm french I speak english, I learn japanese, spanish and italian, roman languages are very easy to learn for me, because as you might have noticed, the grammar and the vocabulary are so similar. However, japanese is 10 times harder for me, 文法がとても違うから. I need to make more efforts when I speak japanese 自然に話せない... But I'll work it... That's why you impress me, you learnt all these languages with a complete different grammar, good job 👏.
@josh_k_austin
@josh_k_austin 3 года назад
@@AnthonyGrain-- いえいえ。とんでもない。Anthonyさんはとっても自然に話せていますよ。日本語は文法が全然ロマンス諸語と違うから大変ですよね。漢字も覚えないといけないし。 mais je ne sais ni lire ni parler français bien. j'ai commencé de apprendre l'an dernier. posso leggere l'italiano piano e piano...ovviamente senza dizionario non potrei leggere soltanto due righe del testo latino. sit remuneratio studiorum nostrorum. (May there be reward of our studying/eagerness)
@FlagAnthem
@FlagAnthem 3 года назад
and in my case, my knowledge of Latin helped me with Japanese XD
@spaghettiking7312
@spaghettiking7312 3 года назад
Everytime Polymathy shaves, I feel like a new timeline begins.
@harryshome4588
@harryshome4588 3 года назад
He looks like the human version of that robot in that one Will Smith movie.
@lewhitey2544
@lewhitey2544 3 года назад
@@harryshome4588 Umm… I, Robot?
@betrisherninox2865
@betrisherninox2865 3 года назад
I learned French at school about fifty years ago. Sadly, I wasn't able to take Latin back then, but I began studying it five years ago. What a joy!!! I'm currently studying Attic Greek and can honestly say the structure and rhythm of French has informed my learning of both Latin and Greek in many ways. Learn Latin, people! And if you're wise, you won't wait until you're as old and decrepit as I am to begin. When I think how much easier it would have been with a sharper, younger memory, I could just sputo!
@pastakkkkk470
@pastakkkkk470 3 года назад
As a francophone who has been studying Ancient Greek for five years: it has not helped me at all! Arabic has helped me though, weirdly enough. I think just the process of learning a new language helps with the following languages.
@Leptospirosi
@Leptospirosi 3 года назад
Nunquam sero ad discendum! 😉
@c-bass9968
@c-bass9968 3 года назад
Español (Puertorriqueño) es mi primer idioma y también hablo inglés. He estudiado latín por 4 meses y me encanta. Espero poder aprender italiano y latín empezando ya con el latín.
@oleksijm
@oleksijm 3 года назад
De verdad, si eres hablante nativo de español no es necesario estudiar el italiano antes de comenzar con latín. Pero si te apetece, porqué no, el italiano es un idioma maravilloso y con un patrimonio cultural enorme. Pienso que, haciendo un esfuerzo, un hispanohablante podría alcanzar la fluidez en italiano dentro de un año o año y medio.
@Leptospirosi
@Leptospirosi 3 года назад
Apprendere (imparare) l'Italiano non sarà un problema per te: devi solo capire le differenze di pronuncia. Written Italian and Spanish are very similar and many words have the same roots. Also Spanish derive from Latin as much as Italian do, so you are not at a disadvantage. The problem, for everyone, is to find people who can speak Latin!
@c-bass9968
@c-bass9968 3 года назад
@@Leptospirosi @oleksijm Grātiās amicī ego nōn possum scribere italicē autem sīc latinē. Intellegō Italice plus quam Latinē quia lingua modērna est autem nuc ego disco latinē et in futuris ego discere italicē.
@davidross2004
@davidross2004 3 года назад
@C-Bass Estoy estudiando español y latín juntos. Español no es mi lengua materna, entonces les ruego que me disculpen si haga errores. He estudiado español por más largo tiempo, en verdad 5 años, que estudiado latín, pero los ambos me ayudan entre sí. Como usted, soy de los Estados Unidos.
@WWG1-WGA
@WWG1-WGA Год назад
Yo acabo de comprar el libro que recomendó LINGVA LATINA . Empezaré con LATIN for sure !
@gregcoogan8270
@gregcoogan8270 3 года назад
I learned Latin before learning Spanish. I'd recommend going that route. Spanish was so, so, so easy after taking Latin. Basically, I already knew the grammar of Spanish. Of course, it is not identical, and I couldn't rely on a one to one correspondence with all of the vocabulary (a lot I could, but not all). After taking Latin, a romance language is basically a modified, truncated version of Latin.
@1John3.8
@1John3.8 3 года назад
Latin first was my intention once I settled on learning a language, and from my early observations, I'm inclined to agree with you. I've been going through LLPSI, and "The Nature Method Institutes" Italian and French, and Italian on Pimsleur in an effort to build a more comprehensive view on the Latin languages.
@PC_Simo
@PC_Simo 7 месяцев назад
Except probably French (at least, spoken French) 😳.
@Flugs0
@Flugs0 7 месяцев назад
Yea I didn't really see the point they were trying to make with this video. Why would it matter if you go for a romance language first, and then latin, or the other way around? It's just a question of do you want to do the hard work with Latin, or do you want to do the hard work with the romance language?
@JoCaTen
@JoCaTen 3 года назад
My sister once told me that she managed to understand Italian thanks to the days when she was studying latin because of school since she picked a senior high school "lyceum" and picked literature there, I think she understood french too? I'm currently trying to learn Latin just because.
@daniadalella9710
@daniadalella9710 3 года назад
See I am Italian, born and grown in Rome from 2 Roman parents (father 8th generation+ mother 6th generatoon); they wanted me1) to study Latin in middle and high school ( it was optionable in those times) 2) to study English since I was 6 yrs old. It may seem strange but Latin was useful for me to better understand English
@GiulioPiccinno
@GiulioPiccinno 3 года назад
same
@pile333
@pile333 3 года назад
Agreed.
@AndrewTheFrank
@AndrewTheFrank 3 года назад
Makes sense. We got so many French and Latin borrowings it can be difficult to not use them at times.
@gustavomaurizio2606
@gustavomaurizio2606 3 года назад
Ma si può studire latino alle medie?
@GiulioPiccinno
@GiulioPiccinno 3 года назад
@@gustavomaurizio2606 da me non era un laboratorio, avevamo proprio la professoressa fissata che ad una certa, finita l'analisi grammaticale, logica e del periodo italiana, ha sostituito le lezioni di italiano col latino, fino a fare solo latino e greco al terzo anno. Però sento di laboratori e rientri pomeridiani per chi vuole fare materie in più e tipicamente il latino è un insegnamento fra quelli offerti.
@Cronkna
@Cronkna 3 года назад
I’m getting inspired by you to learn languages. You explain things so well!!
@Virius.Aelius.Barbatus.
@Virius.Aelius.Barbatus. 3 года назад
Well I learned latin at the same time with spanish and both helped me a lot in learning the other.
@AndrewTheFrank
@AndrewTheFrank 3 года назад
I understand getting the phonology down first being important. I don't really remember any Spanish, but I remember taking a few years of it back in high school. It was fairly difficult to listen and speak in a conversation when using English phonemes. One day I tried something different. I decided to practice speaking English with a thick Hispanic accent. Then speak like that while speaking Spanish. With this change things sounded and moved more natural. It felt like the words were naturally flying out of my mouth with ease. So much so that it didn't feel forced. Best I can compare it to is playing an instrument. It is a thing that new people make a lot when trying to play a composition and especially when attempting to play in a group setting. They hit the wrong note and kind of pause to think. This throws off the flow, puts one out of sink with the others and makes it hard to recover and step back into the groove. To me using the wrong phonemes kind of sounds like this. It's playing all the wrong notes, being off time and attempting to keep the groove recognizable.
@oscare.quiros6349
@oscare.quiros6349 3 года назад
I started learning latin in secondary school in the 60s and always wanted to actually be fluent. You guys are encouraging me to actually do something about it.
@giorgiosorrentino5106
@giorgiosorrentino5106 3 года назад
Il latino classico è una lingua morta quindi è difficile imparare a parlarlo. Quale latino, quello di Cicerone o quello di Costantino? Esiste il latino contemporaneo, l'italiano e quello si può imparare benissimo.
@polyMATHY_Luke
@polyMATHY_Luke 3 года назад
Infatti è molto facile imparare a parlarlo. Basta andare al mio altro canale ScorpioMartianus
@michaelbeggs2013
@michaelbeggs2013 3 года назад
I took Latin, French, and Spanish simultaneously in high school and feel most fluent in French now, but I feel like I can often follow Italian or portuguese and other Romance languages without actually studying them. It takes a lot of time to learn a new language, hard to justify the time investment without good reason, but it is a great mental sharpener for retirement, I guess. Very enjoyable videos, you guys make me feel like a part of the polyglot romance language elite.
@Chiacchi86
@Chiacchi86 3 года назад
Thank you for this very interesting discussion. As an Italian, I can hardly imagine learning Latin without knowing Italian. However, both when I was studying Latin in high school and when I learned Spanish (and partly also for my little English), I realized that the slightly more "cultured" (pass me the term...) Italian words helped me a lot, such as less frequent synonyms... So I don't know if studying Italian first is such a worthwhile investment in terms of time, unless you are a very quick learner. But I imagine that for an English speaker even a minimum of vocabulary (and maybe even a little bit of syntax) in Italian can already be a nice help.
@HeWhoComments
@HeWhoComments 3 года назад
These discussions are great to see. I have a passing interest in Latin and the Romance languages but so far I’ve only invested in learning Spanish because of where I live
@fr.israelsanchez1041
@fr.israelsanchez1041 3 года назад
Ciao from Assisi! Certainly, Latin will be less intimidating once you have Spanish or Italian under your belt. Being a native Spanish speaker was incredibly helpful when I started learning Latin, especially with regards to reading, vocabulary, some grammar, etc. However, in your response to Davide's comment regarding conjunctions, you repeat the all-important point regarding method. Spanish did little to help me engage with Latin as real language, because it (i.e. Latin) wasn't taught as a language. We never spoke it, never conversed in it, never thought in it. Although the professor encouraged us not to approach Latin as a code (and, by extension, our grammar books as "keys" to crack the code), it very much felt like a code. We talked ABOUT it, but never really IN it. It is only now while studying Italian (in Assisi) that I've found myself occasionally thinking and forming real sentences in Latin. And, of course, wanting to do it more and more. This is, I think, in part due to the fact that I'm being taught to engage with Italian in this way. Thank you all for the great content you produce. Having only recently discovered your respective channels, I have already benefitted from them immensely.
@polyMATHY_Luke
@polyMATHY_Luke 3 года назад
Thanks! I'm glad you like the videos, Brother.
@fr.israelsanchez1041
@fr.israelsanchez1041 3 года назад
@@polyMATHY_Luke Please, keep them coming!
@1John3.8
@1John3.8 3 года назад
I have recently started learning Latin via Lingua Latina, thanks to your channel. I've tried Spanish off and on for years out of practicality, but have a much greater interest in French and Italian. This video seems to exist in perfect time, and I may now really dig into Italian through the "nature method" and possibly an app like Mango or Pimsleur.
@polyMATHY_Luke
@polyMATHY_Luke 3 года назад
Great!
@CouchPolyglot
@CouchPolyglot 3 года назад
oh, I did not know Raphael speaks Catalan, quina il·lusió! :). It was great to see you togehter in one room!! Well, knowing a few Romance languages definetly helps understanding (some) Latin, it makes the process way easier. I had some Latin at university, but it was very theoretical, I like your approach a lot more!! Congrats on your 100k btw, you deserve it!!
@polyMATHY_Luke
@polyMATHY_Luke 3 года назад
Hi Laura!! Thanks so much for comment. Yes Raph is a powerhouse! I hope to find the time to learn Catalan.
@Leptospirosi
@Leptospirosi 3 года назад
As an Italian speakers I can understand how Latin is lexically very close to romance languages and Italian even more so after a fashion. What I would point out here is that, Grammatically speaking, Latin is VERY different from any current romance language. Italy has not been a "Latin" nation for at least fifteen hundred years and as more and more German and Eastern people came in, the complex coniugation system slowly creeped into a more simple preposition+object system, the same that is present in modern English for example (as it had the same foreign immigration history), while the Neuter gender was completely dropped. As declination was dropped, in Italian you just decline the preposition and the object (accusative like) would stay just masculine of feminine (A/O or E/I ). Latin is more closely related to Polish grammatically speaking. Knowing some romance language can give you an easier start as you find vocabulary familiar, but it's not a requirement of Latin learning to speak any romance language. The main advantage I can see here is that Romance languages is still spoken commonly, while Latin is just inside academic or ecclesiastical circles and between some "weirdos" who force themselves into communicate through it. 😉 About being fluent in Latin, this is the difference I noticed listening to this and other channel: I've studied Latin and Greek for 5 years but never "Grasped" the essence of it because I never tried to speak it, neither my teacher did. "Hearing" a language forces you into patterns recognition, like immediately recognizing the "sound" of an active, passive or reflective verb, which is something you don't have reading because you are visualizing the world but not hearing. Speaking and understanding fast Latin requires those patterns: you might not grasp all the subtle meaning or shades of phrases, but you get the general meaning and you learn how to make sense out them in context.
@ToddWSmith
@ToddWSmith 3 года назад
technically there are still a few neuter nouns in Italian that, due to the way the case and gender systems collapsed, are identical to masculine in the singular and feminine in the plural the most common one I think is uovo - uova, from Latin ovum - ova
@oriomenoni7651
@oriomenoni7651 3 года назад
Grammar is only a part of the story; when it comes to syntax, there are deep similarities between Italian and Latin: for instance, in the use and concept of the subjuctive mode. It's not by chance that Italian classical literary education has Latin as one of the major subjects of study in all 5 of the Lyceum years.
@cynthex7113
@cynthex7113 3 года назад
German is closer to Latin in its use of cases, especially the dative. Latin also has the ablative. You are correct about the replacement of cases with prepositions.
@BRIAN09157
@BRIAN09157 3 года назад
Si if I’m a native Spanish speaker,would you recommend me to start with Italian then go to Latin or go straight for Latin?
@skipfuego6339
@skipfuego6339 3 года назад
@@BRIAN09157 go to Italian then Latin...You will understand the root
@mrmaverick4069
@mrmaverick4069 3 года назад
I learned Italian before Latin... I'm Italian btw
@Romanophonie
@Romanophonie 3 года назад
Always great listening to the three greatest minds of language learning on RU-vid!
@jackpayne4658
@jackpayne4658 3 года назад
One linguist (I forget who) recommended learning Lithuanian before attempting Sanskrit. He claimed they were similar enough to make it easier when you tackled the Devanagari script.
@sonrazuma1572
@sonrazuma1572 3 года назад
Lithuanian won't help you with Sanskrit in any possible way. There is a slew of languages in India that are much closer to Sanskrit phonetically, lexically and grammatically which is absolutely natural and self-evident. This Sanskrit-Lithuanian link is a very antiquated concept that goes back to XIX century when linguistics was at its infancy. Nowadays there are a bunch of insane Lithuanian nationalists who tout Lithuanian as "the oldest language" and all that nonsense.
@alexandermagnus82
@alexandermagnus82 3 года назад
@@sonrazuma1572 That's mostly true. Lithuanians are really proud of their conservative language probably because their national revival wasn't that long ago. There isnt much point in learning Lithuanian before Sanskrit, it's just cool to see the connection between a Vedic and a Baltic language that really highlights a Indo-European relationship.
@異Meddling世Serpent界
@異Meddling世Serpent界 3 года назад
Great topic! I highly recommend learning any Romance language(s) and then finding study materials for Latin directed towards speakers of that/those language(s). That way, you maintain the Romance language(s) you already learned while finding Latin much more intuitive since they are related. I use a mixture of French and Italian study materials for Latin. I am also reasonable at Spanish from earlier. Having my brain in “Romance language mode” rather than “English mode” in a way seems to prime me for understanding Latin concepts easier. It is also really cool, as you all mentioned, seeing how the Romance languages I use to study evolved from Latin since they are right next to each other in the materials I am using everyday. English/American study materials, by contrast, (yours of course, are the exception) are so clunky/awkward in comparison and I feel like they repelled me from Latin when I was younger. I hated Latin until I learned Spanish, but I didn’t love latin until I learned some French and began dabbling in Italian.
@niko73le
@niko73le 3 года назад
well done!
@alanguages
@alanguages 3 года назад
Exactly! It is better to start out with an easier Romance language, then climb the Latin mountain.
@s.papadatos6711
@s.papadatos6711 3 года назад
When Raphael spoke modern Greek, he sounded like a native speaker. I guess, being fluent in Spanish and having acquired that retracted s sound, really made a difference.
@niko73le
@niko73le 3 года назад
I've spent a while learning French and my mission was to learn Latin next and now you say I should learn Italian first! Its taking a lot longer than I thought it would! :)
@AndrewTheFrank
@AndrewTheFrank 3 года назад
I think they are mostly saying to do such for the phonology. Just learn Latin then follow it up with Italian to help with the phonemes.
@polyMATHY_Luke
@polyMATHY_Luke 3 года назад
Exactly
@Kikkerv11
@Kikkerv11 3 года назад
Many Flemish people started learning English at the age of 13 and Latin at the age of 12. Nowadays you can start learning both at the age of 12 though.
@dominicfarken
@dominicfarken 3 года назад
I (as a native English speaker) learnt Italian first, and became quite fluent (spending time with my Abruzzese relatives), then went back to university and learnt Latin and Greek simultaneously. Latin seemed a breeze in comparison, and the stark difference in terms of how quickly I learnt Latin vocabulary compared to Greek still troubles me and my greek learning today. But Italian greatly shot me ahead of my peers when it came to learning Latin, as I was the only one in the class with Italian behind me, others has Spanish and French, but I still had such an advantage in inferring meaning
@thinking-ape6483
@thinking-ape6483 3 года назад
Oddly enough, Latin was my first foreign language and compared to my later ones, now my worst, sadly, something, which I hope to one day remedy.
@SoulEternalPeaceWarrior77
@SoulEternalPeaceWarrior77 3 года назад
I feel it's kinda like working out. You work out your Abs first (native romance language) & then you start working out arms or legs & make it stronger (Latin) It'll be muscle memory of words & tenses that you can start to connect, form understanding a lot faster since you have that strong core base to start out with.
@Cyclonus2377
@Cyclonus2377 3 года назад
Grazie mille per un'altro video buono! 😊🇮🇹😊🇮🇹😊🇮🇹😊🇮🇹
@libatonvhs
@libatonvhs 3 года назад
I've decided to learn Italian before diving into Latin, just because of the ampler aural output of the former; despite all the great work Luke does, there's still much less interesting things to listen to in Latin than Italian. Hopefully, someday, those two will be equal in this regard.
@gordonfreeman4357
@gordonfreeman4357 3 года назад
Hi mate, in reality it's the opposite: there is an industrial quantity of classical books written in Latin, and reading the translated version is completely different than reading the original one, also, the Romans managed to conquer Greece and Greek intellectuals were "used" as teachers for Romans nobles families, this means, that chances are that you can also find a classical Greek book translated into Latin not by some current-time expert, but from a real ancient Greek native speaker and intellectual (ancient Greek is completely different from modern Greek)
@alanguages
@alanguages 3 года назад
@@gordonfreeman4357 The op mentioned there is more audio output for Italian, than Latin. Your post "Hi mate, in reality it's the opposite:" Are you sure about your initial post, that you counter the op, that Latin has more audio to listen to, than Italian? Can you provide ample tv, radio stations, music, news, etc... compared to be more abundant in Latin, than Italian? I am curious and want to actually study Latin and the more audio, than Italian would be an amazing amount of resources.
@SevenMilliFrog
@SevenMilliFrog 3 года назад
@@alanguages stop judging, dude. Maybe he can hear books 💀
@gordonfreeman4357
@gordonfreeman4357 3 года назад
@@alanguages sorry my fault haha, I did read it quickly so I didn't pay attention to the single words, thanks for correcting me :) I'll still leave the comment since it might be helpful to someone, by the way, you mentioned that you're interested in studying Latin: there are plenty of original historical texts in Latin, that's really a gold mine, I suggest you to study them, since you'll also learn a lot about history, and trust me, there's more than what they teach you at school, it's extremely interesting
@gordonfreeman4357
@gordonfreeman4357 3 года назад
@@SevenMilliFrog actually, since English is based of the Latin alphabet you could write a software that uses Google Tesseract to do the ocr and eSpeak tts to voice it, and, you can hear a book ;)
@wheresthesauce3886
@wheresthesauce3886 3 года назад
I think it depends what your goal is. If your goal is solely to know Latin or to learn it rapidly, it's better to start learning Latin sooner instead of postponing it by learning an entirely different language first. If anything, aside from vocabulary, Italian is much closer syntactically to English than Latin (I mean come on, it's basically the same 95% of the time). It's much easier to brute force vocabulary than the grammar/syntax, so Italian making it easier to learn Latin vocab does not make up for the time lost spent learning Italian.
@lillycastitatis6807
@lillycastitatis6807 3 года назад
My thoughts exactly. Thank you.
@Jordi_Llopis_i_Torregrosa96
@Jordi_Llopis_i_Torregrosa96 3 года назад
I speak both Spanish and Catalan natively and I've been studying Latin for a little while now, I sometimes wondered if I should postpone it and learn Italian first as I want to learn Italian in the future anyways so.... It would probably facilitate/speed up the learning process of Latin wouldn't it?
@TakumaKunTakuma-San15-9
@TakumaKunTakuma-San15-9 3 года назад
Yo entiendo más latín que italiano 😅
@VieiraFi
@VieiraFi 3 года назад
You know I checked out some Catalan texts at the internet and I found remarkable how much of the jist of it I could get. I'm Brazilian, but haven't really studied other romance languages, just by trying immersion by listening to podcasts and RU-vid videos in Spanish and Italian for a couple months. Honestly Catalan is a really cool language with remarkable literature, such a shame it's so unknown.
@Jordi_Llopis_i_Torregrosa96
@Jordi_Llopis_i_Torregrosa96 3 года назад
@@VieiraFi Nao é tao pequena mesmo, tem quase 10 milloes de falantes nativos ao largo de Catalunha (Espanha e França), Comunidade Valenciana, Andorra e as Ilhas Baleares
@lucaventinove3151
@lucaventinove3151 3 года назад
Italian mantained a more similar lexicon to Latin, compare to Spanish or Catalan. So in the studying of the lexicon, it will be easier I think. But grammatically speaking, no Romance language really increases the understanding of Latin. Overall, I'd say romance languages give you a big boost in learning Latin, and after you've studied it for a while, they surely help understanding it easily, albeit of course not as perfectly as if you were to master Latin.
@Philoglossos
@Philoglossos 3 года назад
Hi Tony, to be honest speaking all three myself (Spanish, Italian and Catalan) I think if your goal is to learn Latin just go for it, the Spanish and Catalan will already be a huge help. Italian is only marginally closer on average. I would only put focus on Italian if you have a genuine interest in it. That said you can learn Italian by just immersing, you won't really need to study much. I strongly recommend Davide's channel podcast Italiano, watch with Italian subtitles and you will pick it up ;-)
@Sandalwoodrk
@Sandalwoodrk 3 года назад
It works both ways too I had a friend who studied Latin in highschool After high school he studied in Italy and became conversational in Italian in only 3 months
@demetrius4093
@demetrius4093 3 года назад
The best accent that can be better combined with Latin is the accent of the Romanian and Sardinian languages. Try to convince me overwise!
@Moananuiākea
@Moananuiākea 3 года назад
Love you're channel keep up the good content. Question what other languages would you love to learn? How about a polynesian language like my own hawaiian 🤙🏾
@thatonevalx6344
@thatonevalx6344 3 года назад
Can you review the Latin duolingo course? I think it would be pretty interesting to see a Latin speaker review it.
@dare2scheme904
@dare2scheme904 3 года назад
Very glad to see so much interest in the Latin language. I hope continued success for you, God be with you
3 года назад
What struck me as somebody who learned Russian (as a German speaker) is that it might overall have been easier to learn Serbo-Croatian first and then do Russian. They are rather similar and Serbo-Croatian is more accessible in that you do not have to deal with Cyrillic letters and pronunciation is more phonetic. You can get a feel for a Slavic language first and what you invested into S/B/K you most likely more than save when doing Russian.
@Antonio_Serdar
@Antonio_Serdar 3 года назад
This is not true. Serbian uses the cyrillic alphabet, Croatian does NOT.
3 года назад
@@Antonio_Serdar Ever been to Serbia? They use both, with a tendency towards the Latin.
@andreageuna6649
@andreageuna6649 3 года назад
I am native Italian and I found Latin very useful when I studied German. I also found ancient Greek very useful when I studied Russian
@davidshanahan6081
@davidshanahan6081 3 года назад
This couldn't of been timed better! I've made it through the first seven chapters of Lingua Latina per se illustrata but literally this week I came across Arthur Jensen's L' Italiano secondo il Metodo Natura. I think I'll give it a shot, as I 100% agree with Luke's point at the end about talking with people who know the architecture and history in their local language when visiting the Roman sites. Great video, guys! GRATIAS EX BRITANNIA!
@Glossologia
@Glossologia 3 года назад
The RU-vid channel ayan academy has great native recordings ;-)
@cleitondecarvalho431
@cleitondecarvalho431 3 года назад
Ho imparato prima il latino, ma grazie al polymathy sto imparando anche l'italiano. Uomo, è molto delizioso parlare questa lingua.
@davidtomasi
@davidtomasi 3 года назад
Hi Luke, I just wanted to express my admiration for the work you do, both here & at ScorpioMartianus. In answering your question "Should you learn Italian before Latin?" I wanted to ask you if you knew about the Ladin language of South Tyrol. I have South Tyrolean origins myself, and I must say that my native Rhaeto-Romance tongue (Ladin is neither Latin, nor Ladino, so it’s closer to Rumontsch) helped me a lot when making sense of syntax and phonetics. Cvra vt valeas, David
@polyMATHY_Luke
@polyMATHY_Luke 3 года назад
Thanks, David! I don't know it, but I would venture to guess: yes!
@davidtomasi
@davidtomasi 3 года назад
@@polyMATHY_Luke Thank you!
@PenumbraeMCMLXXVIII
@PenumbraeMCMLXXVIII 3 года назад
If it's useful knowing a Romance language when studying Latin? I'd say yes. It may help in many ways. A língua latina é bela.
@theoderich1168
@theoderich1168 3 года назад
Latin was compulsory in German "Gymnasium" (Lyceum) until the 70s or 80s from 7th grade on (for my father even Classical Greek was) and I learned it for 4,5 years. I took French in 9th grade and Spanish in 11th Grade. Latin helped VERY much. After I had spent a few days with 3 Italians while in Sardegna I could go shopping and ask the locals for the directions while hitchhiking, Italian seemed so easy ! WHen I arrived in Portugal by train I could read and understand a lot of the information, I guess my French helped here too....
@voxtur__7
@voxtur__7 3 года назад
I know intermediate level French. Honestly, Latin came as second nature to me. Learning it didn't even feel like learning a new language. Obviously, I'm not the best at it, but I hope to continue till I am. I am a biology student, so Latin helped me IMMENSELY with the anatomical lexicon. Apart from this, learning Latin taught me more English than any grammar lesson ever did (I am not a native speaker). Now I want to learn some modern greek, before starting ancient Greek.
@niko73le
@niko73le 3 года назад
I think i'm going to do the same as you. I have got intermediate French so i'm going to do Latin first and maybe Italian later if I have time. Then ancient Greek so I can read Marcus Aurelius Meditations
@voxtur__7
@voxtur__7 3 года назад
@@niko73le best of luck. I am doing it for science, because I'm pathetic at memorising terminology. Knowing what they actually mean makes things much easier, especially when my education system likes to pretend that they are merely dumb words with no meaning, manufactured by a scientist's sleep paralysis demon.
@emanueleorlando265
@emanueleorlando265 3 года назад
I'm italian and yes Italian helps you a LOT to understand latin and vice versa
@Hclody95
@Hclody95 3 года назад
in italy we learn latin in high school, and honestly its been quite straight forward, also many latin words that differ from italian can be figured like "I eat" wich in latin is "edo" and italian is "mangiare", but both italian and english have the word "edibile"/"edible" and from there an italian speaker can figure it out, but as italian speaker this is not only with latin, but also with all romance languages, like italian vs spanish, in italian to say "I understand" we say "io capisco", but in italian they sey "io entiendo", wich is totally different but in italian we have the verb "io intendo" wich means "I understand between the lines", to add more in latin they say "intellego" wich is even different, but as italian i can figure out "intellego"="intelligente" or even "intel leggo" where intel in italian words always indicates something involving the mind insights and "leggo" wich is "to read", so i could figure that "reading into the mind" means "understanding"
@12_xu
@12_xu 3 года назад
As an Italian (who did not study Latin at school as many other Italians) currently finishing LLPSI I can say that knowing Italian helps a lot, it is almost as "natural" as learning French and Spanish with the Nature Method. Starting Athenaze has been instead way more shocking. But telling the entire truth, I feel that knowing literary Italian helps me a lot with words; so for example an Italian mother-tongue probably knows that "errare" means also "to wander", but an Italian learner would probably know just its most common meaning, "to mistake". So my advice is to learn Italian (if you're interested) but also some etymologies (Wiktionary is a great site) to get familiar with Latin.
@canobenitez
@canobenitez Год назад
Errar means to wander and to mistake in spanish, depending on context. Fascinating!
@Flugs0
@Flugs0 7 месяцев назад
I still don't see the point in learning a romance language first, even if you eventually want to know one. Obviously knowing a language like Italian would make learning Latin easier, but to the same extent knowing Latin would make learning Italian easier. It's all just about do you want to do the hard work while learning Latin, or do you want to do the hard work while learning Italian. The only thing I see that you could argue is that doing the hard work with Latin might be a bit much at once, because Latin is a little more complicated than Italian. And I guess you could make the fact that there's actual native speakers of Italian and locations where the language is spoken by everyone (unlike Latin, excluding conventions) an advantage to you. But outside of that I don't see how it makes a difference, the total amount of work that you have to put in is practically the same. It's just do you want to look at the original words first or at the evolved ones?
@Voex1966
@Voex1966 2 года назад
I learnt italian language and the past tense "Passato Remoto" (Venni, vidi, vinsi). I understood at once what "Veni, vidi, vici" means, without latin lessons.
@MrBibibip
@MrBibibip 3 года назад
I think the other way around works well too.If you know latin, learning a romance language will come very easy..not just romance but any language .
@oleksijm
@oleksijm 3 года назад
Excellent points made. Overall yes, I would also highly recommend becoming familiar with a closely related living language first before proceeding to the ancestral language.
@roman9509
@roman9509 2 года назад
The grammar of each language is completely different, as much as any two other Indo-European languages. Vocabulary is mostly similar, but many of the most common words are different. Many Latin/Italian words exist as less used synonym words in English, since it had incorporated many of those during the history of the English language.
@jac6547
@jac6547 3 года назад
Knowing Spanish also helps. Spanish is pretty close to Latin.
@williamblack4369
@williamblack4369 3 месяца назад
I love the section where y'all struggle to find a good example. A very common frustration in explaining a language concept to someone.
@ItsameAlex
@ItsameAlex 2 года назад
Loved hearing you guys speak Greek at the end:D
@stretch3172
@stretch3172 3 года назад
Love your channel Luke! You should definitely do a reaction video to the Latin scene between Doc and Johnny Ringo in the movie Tombstone. Would love to hear your commentary on its accuracy :)
@giuseppebonavita
@giuseppebonavita 3 года назад
Italian first or Latin first to learn? And if both at the same time? Just an example: "I VITELLI DEI ROMANI SONO BELLI" you are having an Italian sentence or a Latin one? Both Because in Italian you will read "the calves of the Romans are beautiful" while in Latin you will read "Go! oh Vitellius, to the sound of war of the Roman god" 🤗🤭😋😂 But there are sentences that have the same meaning either in Italian or in Latin. "In mare irato, in subita procella, invoco Te, nostra benigna Stella" In an angry sea, in a sudden storm, I invoke You, our benign Star
@philipohmes9395
@philipohmes9395 3 года назад
Thank you for that presentation and I just signed up for Davide's YT Channel. The pesky issue of the speed at which a language is spoken? Get used to it, says YTer Jonas with his quick tempo perfect High German speech. I find that those Germans living in northern Germany do speak with a higher tempo in German than those from the southern regions. But then in the southern regions, the words are more often slurred or letters are just left off the end of a word and the listener needs to sort out the declinations and meaning of the phrase. I simply spent several weeks listening to what Joans had to say in his 120 plus syllables per minute speech pattern and now I am good again hearing that faster spoken form of the language. Close by at about 110 syllables per minute is native English speech. And amongst the fastest is Japanese or Chinese. But then these faster clipped spoken languages at not as information dense per syllable spoken than English or German. Improving my hearing understanding in German, also allowed me to listen and understand the German Broadcast news YT Channels. Now there we find the best of the complex everyday spoken formal language from the reporters or commentators. Another way to upgrade your language skills. As for Latin, well I learned that language from German, years ago. I did like very much the Radio Finland Sunday news reports. Although there was always this hint of Finnish accent in those reporters verbal reports. Although there is no longer a weekly broadcast, the former ones I understand are still available to listen to. Then Radio Vatican International still does broadcasts in Latin speech. Outside of those resources there are plenty of Latin songs and chants on YT to listen to, that would help with hearing understanding, and many of them have the Latin words underneath the the song being sung, so one may read along.
@polyMATHY_Luke
@polyMATHY_Luke 3 года назад
Indeed! Many of those songs in Latin are mine
@philipohmes9395
@philipohmes9395 3 года назад
@@polyMATHY_Luke Then kindly make a list of those songs for us to follow along. It is one of the easiest ways for me to learn another language. I was also thinking of songs like, Tamtum Ergo, Ave Maria, Pater Nostrum, Gloria and other such chants etc. I remember years ago giving a college student learning 1st semester Latin, a copy of the St. Joseph's Missal. On one page would be Latin and on the other page the English equivalent of Church Latin. It gave us a way for me to speak Latin to him in a method outside of the class room. But then if he really wanted more complex concepts translated or explained, I resorted to my bi lingual German/Latin texts written in Gothic Script. There is more than one way to Rome.
@mikeq5807
@mikeq5807 3 года назад
I know little Latin, but I have given it a look. I always enjoyed languages, got my degree in French, studied Spanish and German. Latin is different from the languages that spring from it. It is declined, and syntax (word order) is therefore not so important. That is the most striking difference that I see. I went to Catholic schools, and we learned the Greek and Latin affixes to English words. Quite helpful! Also, we recognized the Greek and the Latin that constituted the word itself. The declensions are the biggest hurdle, from what I see.
@sahinoudiengo816
@sahinoudiengo816 3 года назад
Thanks to learning Latin I really know I will learn Spanish and Italian. I didn't like these languages earlier
@martinnyberg9295
@martinnyberg9295 3 года назад
I’ve found the opposite to be helpful. I was having trouble with both vocabulary and grammar in the Duolingo French course. But when I tried to do the Spanish, Italian, and Latin Duolingo courses simultaneously, much of it fell in place. (I did try Portuguese and Romanian too, but that was overkill 😄) Seeing from where things come, and to what it has evolved in the different languages, makes things so much more sensible. I also learn French on Duolingo using German as the teaching language to brush up on my old school German. 😊👍🏻
@kieranperreaultdit-morin9262
@kieranperreaultdit-morin9262 3 года назад
what i did was take Italian and Latin classes alongside each other and that was really helpful for me (the first time i took latin i failed) -- if you can do that it's not so much that you're learning 2, more like 1 and a half IMO
@gabriz0946
@gabriz0946 3 года назад
You're amazing
@Irfaan16
@Irfaan16 3 года назад
This video came at the perfect time for me. Latin has always been my main language goal and with this in mind I chose Italian as my first Romance language two years ago (English is my L1). I'm now finishing A2 but I've been unsure about when or even if it is a good idea to start with Latin before achieving fluency in Italian. Digging online for an ideal approach to Latin was how I came across polyMATHY (& ScorpioMartianus). Your advice here about B1 conversational fluency being sufficient has convinced me to finally take the plunge into Latin. Thanks for the great video. Post Scriptum: I'm contemplating using the Ranieri-Dowling method to learn it.
@polyMATHY_Luke
@polyMATHY_Luke 3 года назад
Great! Many people have had success with it.
@gf4913
@gf4913 3 года назад
Good examples of words that are the basically the same in italian and in latin but with a completely different meaning are "placenta" and musculus. Placenta means the same as in english but It means flat bread in latin while musculus is a small mouse in latin and muscolo is muscle in italian. There are a lots of those false friends unfortunately.
@powerdriller4124
@powerdriller4124 3 года назад
"Nunc" is Latin for "now", "nunca" is Spanish for "never". Although Latin "nunquam" is where "nunca" Spanish came from, and means the same "
@katam6471
@katam6471 3 года назад
In Swedish placenta is called 'moderkaka' which translates to 'mothers cake', so that etymology really makes sense to me. :-)
@S_F_S
@S_F_S 3 года назад
Love you guys. Nice conversation. Love from Florence, Bonus est tu!!
@Kinotaurus
@Kinotaurus 3 года назад
Shout out to Davide for showing off his knowledge of Russian when feeling excluded by not speaking modern Greek.
@d-resmin
@d-resmin 3 года назад
I'm learning Spanish first because I live in San Antonio. Spanish is the most utilitarian language right now.
@erickrieger2080
@erickrieger2080 3 года назад
You should break down Johnny Ringos and Doc holidays conversation in Latin from the movie tombstone.
@toddlarmer
@toddlarmer 3 года назад
Luke; I’m from Allentown, just north of Bucks Co. Love your site. I should really take your course
@polyMATHY_Luke
@polyMATHY_Luke 3 года назад
Awesome! I used to live in Bethlehem
@user-bf8ud9vt5b
@user-bf8ud9vt5b 3 года назад
Learning one language in order to learn another one more easily is like spending $1,000 instead of $500 in order to get a 10% discount and 'save' $100.
@polyMATHY_Luke
@polyMATHY_Luke 3 года назад
Not if you want to learn both.
@spelcheak
@spelcheak 3 года назад
It's actually the opposite depending on the exact context. Language learning isn't a zero-sum game or a linear path. The biggest part for most people is relearning how to learn and getting over "this is how things should be because it's what I'm used to/understand reflexively". A straight line isn't always the shortest route.
@user-bf8ud9vt5b
@user-bf8ud9vt5b 3 года назад
@@spelcheak If your goal is to learn Latin, learning another language is halving your study time in your target language for some additional incidental insight gleaned from the sister language. Is it helpful if you already know a related language to the one you're studying? Of course! But the effort put into learning language B, first, in order to learn language A faster or more effectively, would have probably been better expended just learning language A in the first place.
@12_xu
@12_xu 3 года назад
@@user-bf8ud9vt5b Mh, no. It's more like practicing weightlifting: starting with a lower weight is the right thing to do, you won't start with 50 kg before having lifted 30 kg. It has been proved that learning Esperanto before English is more effective than learning just English: it's the Paderborn method. Italian (and even better Spanish) is way simpler for an English speaker than Latin.
@natalielynn2203
@natalielynn2203 3 года назад
I learned Latin (three years) before formal Spanish study. The downside was I had mostly learned to read Latin and not converse.
@decimusausoniusmagnus5719
@decimusausoniusmagnus5719 3 года назад
I wish I could learn Archaic Latin. That'd be nice.
@myhandlehasbeenmishandled
@myhandlehasbeenmishandled 3 года назад
I would disagree that learning Latin will be easier if you first learn Italian or Spanish. Unless you moved to Italy, or some Spanish speaking nation, learning those languages will be as hard, or as easy, as learning Latin at home through books and online. So, if your interest is primarily Latin, and you don't plan on spending a significant time in a romance speaking nation, might as well start by learning Latin. Perhaps, for someone that lives in the US, learning Spanish first would be far more advantageous simply because there are so many Spanish speaking peoples. Once in a while, I come across IT jobs in the US that require candidates to also know Spanish.
@TheArisen_
@TheArisen_ 3 года назад
My school made me learn Latin before Italian. It helped a lot ngl.
@Eumanel12
@Eumanel12 3 года назад
well, I am Brazilian, a native Portuguese speaker, and I can say that learning Latin is not that hard to me, especially because Portuguese descended from Latin and has a lot of similarities with such language. not only the words are similar, but the structure (how you make sentences and express what you want) of Latin is easy for me to understand!
@desanipt
@desanipt 3 года назад
Well, it's pretty mich what David said with Italian. Portuguese has a lot of cultured direct borrowings from Latin which are super easy to recognise, while words that evolved through continuous popular use are far more removed, like the pairs chamar/clamar, outro/alternativo, chave/clave, areia/arena, dinheiro/denário, etc. As for grammar and structure, well, it really depends, Portuguese preservers some aspects of it, but works quite differently in a lot of them (no case system in Portuguese, being pronouns the only place where they are somewhat fossilized; verbal conjugation while keeping a lot of the concept behind Latin verbal conjugation can get radically different...)
@susangerofsky
@susangerofsky 3 года назад
Hello Luke! I’m a professor of mathematics education with a background in applied linguistics, and have been enjoying your videos all summer! I have a very specific question about number names in Latin (and their relationship or not to Roman numerals) - something that came up in my History of Math for Teachers class today. Is there a way to send you an email to ask more about this - or are you able to reply here or some other way? Many thanks! Just signed up for your newsletter too…
@polyMATHY_Luke
@polyMATHY_Luke 3 года назад
Hi Susan! What’s your question?
@susangerofsky
@susangerofsky 3 года назад
@@polyMATHY_Luke, here it is: From my knowledge of Portuguese, French and a bit of Italian and Spanish, I expect that Latin numbers (as words) are probably base 10. (Of course, French has some remnants of some other non-decimal system like ‘quatre vingt seize’, but for the most part these languages count something like ‘three tens one, two, …, nine, four tens, …”) My simple question to you is whether Latin number words go up in batches of tens - in base ten. (And the numbers from 11 to 19 are especially interesting.) But if that’s the case, it’s strange that Roman numerals do not offer a place value numeration system like our base 10 system, where there is a units column, a tens column, a ten-squared column, etc. that make arithmetic with numerals possible and convenient. As I understand it, the Romans (who were magnificent engineers, as we know) did calculations on grooved boards (‘counters’, like a store counter) with calculi/pebbles to calculate. These Roman abaci would have used place-value base 10 columns. Mesopotamian cultures used an ingenious place-value base 60 system for calculations starting about 2000 years before Roman civilization. So - why did the Romans notate numbers in the rather inconvenient form of Roman numerals, rather than a base 10 place value system, especially if they spoke numbers in base ten?
@polyMATHY_Luke
@polyMATHY_Luke 3 года назад
Latin language numbers are certainly base ten. The numbering system just developed as a convetion and the one doesn't have much to do with the other, just as "2" doesn't look like the letters t w o. They seem inconvenient to us just because we're not used to them.
@susangerofsky
@susangerofsky 3 года назад
@@polyMATHY_Luke, thanks very much for this! It’s great to confirm that Latin number words are base 10, and of course our numeral shapes are certainly arbitrary. (And did you that Persian/ Farsi numerals are quite different from those used in most of the rest of the world?) But Roman numerals are truly less convenient to do arithmetic with than place value numbers by their very structure. Europe used the Roman system through medieval times right up through to about 1600, when Hindu-Arabic place value numerals and algorithmic arithmetic were introduced from the Islamic world to great controversy. See this illustration of the battle between algorithms and abaci from Europe around 1500
@polina1735
@polina1735 3 года назад
Давиде, живи! Зажали тебя, бедненького 😜😹
@angelicart.6
@angelicart.6 3 года назад
This is soooo interesting 😊
@cosimoalbaster
@cosimoalbaster 3 года назад
As a native Romanian speaker I can say one thing. When studying Italian & Latin I've noticed that the 2 languages are a lot more closely related to each other than Romanian is to Latin and knowing Romanian is a huge help with studying Latin already, so I would guess that if you're a non-romance language native speaker then yes, studying Italian would probably help a lot more with studying Latin, or any other romance language, than trying to jump in directly into studying Latin without any prior knowledge of any romance language.
@daniadalella9710
@daniadalella9710 3 года назад
I agree! I don't know anything in Romanian, still I could understand sense/meaning of some Romanian messages.. just ' a naso 👃' as Iralian would say..
@daniadalella9710
@daniadalella9710 3 года назад
I agree! I don't know anything in Romanian, still I could understand sense/meaning of some Romanian messages.. just ' a naso 👃' as an Italian would say..
@lordkent8143
@lordkent8143 3 года назад
If you plan to study Latin immensely (that means going to Rome) I think you should study Italian and even other romance languages later.
@guillermorivas7819
@guillermorivas7819 3 года назад
Davide nel mezzo!
@ahmadrezapashaei1059
@ahmadrezapashaei1059 3 года назад
Luke would you pls make a video of what you think about the Latin course on Duolingo?
@polyMATHY_Luke
@polyMATHY_Luke 3 года назад
My recommendation is LLPSI
@edgarazevedo1306
@edgarazevedo1306 3 года назад
I'm a BR portuguese speaker. Because of latin, it became easier and easier to understand Italian. It's just like a cousin that speaks a rare synonym that also realy existed in my own language and I never used. All linguae latinae gratia. Also, spanish is extremely easy to understand for portuguese speakers. I can undestand everything without a single spanish class. French thou is horrendous, i feel like it's better to work on my arabic than wasting time with French. There are so many arabic words in portuguese. The plan is: - Portuguese (ever doing, learning, relearning) - English (Done) - Latin (Doing) - Ancient Tupi (my native american heritage/ Doing) - Amazonian General Language - Nheengatú - Ancient Greek (Alphabet done, and some words from Athenaze first 4 chapters) - Italian - Arabic (already learned the alphabet and some words and introductions) - Spanish. (Also my heritage) - Some language of my Banto heritage like kimbundo (so many words in nowadays portuguese, "uma bagunça") - Whatever comes next.
@kirstenmuller4536
@kirstenmuller4536 3 года назад
What about Latin's cases? Would something like Romanian help with that? I think one should probably learn basically any modern European language that has cases- I find German has been helping me with that.
@12_xu
@12_xu 3 года назад
You just learn cases. German helps you if you don't know what cases are, but they do not help you to master cases in Latin which are more numerous and various.
@kirstenmuller4536
@kirstenmuller4536 3 года назад
@@12_xu I see. Thanks for your response
@desanipt
@desanipt 3 года назад
Well, all Romance languages preserved some of the cases with personal pronouns (at least normative, accusative, dative). So, it's not completely foreign to us. One just has to generalise it out of the pronouns, and it is extremely helpful to be able to stop and think how would that be if I were to replace it with a pronoun in my own intuitive native language and get the answer to what case to use. Maybe it is a bit time consuming at first, but it's nothing too hard to understand as it seems to be to an English speaker. And even English differentiates subjects from objects when using some pronouns, so, that's more helpful than languages that don't even do that. Still, Latin has far more cases than any surviving Romance language (even if we take pronouns) and there's nothing saving anyone from having to memorising all declensions, even if they get which is the case they should use :(
@kirstenmuller4536
@kirstenmuller4536 3 года назад
@@desanipt Yeah, I figured. Just seeing if there was something that could get us used to it.
@ItalianByLatin
@ItalianByLatin 3 года назад
Grazie per questo video molto interessante. 👍 In Germania abbiamo attualmente 7 milioni di studenti nelle scuole, di cui circa 600.000 studiano il latino. Sfortunatamente, abbiamo solo 47.000 studenti che imparano l'italiano. Ecco perché integro l'italiano nelle mie lezioni di latino. Il latino è ottimo come base per l'italiano. 🙂
@spelcheak
@spelcheak 3 года назад
A very elaborate ploy to dissuade people from the true best method of learning Esperanto first. I see your game Roman cat man! 😾😼😸 keep up the good work
@ironinquisitor3656
@ironinquisitor3656 3 года назад
I started off with Spanish and it seemed to help a bit.
@sazji
@sazji 3 года назад
So people want Latin to be spoken like a David Attenborough documentary? :-) Though the modern linguistic reality is different, there’s a similar discussion with Arabic: Should one learn Standard Arabic first or a regional dialect first? The gulf between spoken dialects and Standard Arabic is similar to that between Romance languages and Latin - the presence vs absence of noun cases, different vocabulary and usage, and more complex grammar. Many purists say to learn Standard first, but it seems more and more people are tending toward learning a dialect first, because you can practice with real people and have true immersion, while with Standard, you’re more limited to reading and news broadcasts. You do need Standard to be literate, but having that spoken dimension, you have more input and more connection with real life.
@christopherbartley6400
@christopherbartley6400 3 года назад
Does anyone else substitute in words from other languages they know? E.g., I took German inn high school. Now I'm trying to learn Latin and Spanish. When I can't generate the correct word in either of those my brain automatically reverts to the correct word auf Deutsch. It's as if my brain has decided "all words not in English get lumped into the same space". Is this normal? Is there a name for this phenomenon?
@WWG1-WGA
@WWG1-WGA Год назад
Spanish born , English my family now , Latin next 🐸🍿
@johnroesch2159
@johnroesch2159 2 года назад
You should learn Latin first because it is the root language of 26 Romance Languages. Learning the root language makes it easy to learn any of the derived languages. If you can master Latin you can very easily learn Italian, Spanish, Portuguese, Romanian, French.... It even helps with English. English is a Germanic language, and it core words that are most frequently used come from Anglo-Saxon which make up 25% of the language. Another 30% of English words come from French and the rest, 45%, come from Latin.
@acrxsls1766
@acrxsls1766 3 года назад
Learn Latin first and you'll basically learn Spanish, Italian, Romanian, and French at the same time.
@lilmanq7746
@lilmanq7746 3 года назад
What if I’m already Romanian i can already learn latin ?
@pochopsp
@pochopsp 3 года назад
Ue Luke ma visto che sei in Italia, perché non torni a Napoli? Qui sei sempre il benvenuto!
@zeyadyahya1180
@zeyadyahya1180 3 года назад
Oh well. I speak Italian. But why I should learn Latin? It's not spoken a lot. But yea I just know some things about it
@oraetlabora1922
@oraetlabora1922 3 года назад
One not always studies a language because it is spoken.
@zeyadyahya1180
@zeyadyahya1180 3 года назад
@LegoGuy87 yea I like the etymology and I always read about that.
@oraetlabora1922
@oraetlabora1922 3 года назад
@LegoGuy87 Spanish also had the word “adieso”.
@dori25t
@dori25t 3 года назад
I think yes
@israellara89
@israellara89 3 года назад
estne duolingo applicationem bene suggestum pro linguam latinam discere?
@polyMATHY_Luke
@polyMATHY_Luke 3 года назад
Nōn.
@jangtheconqueror
@jangtheconqueror 3 года назад
When they're speaking other languages, the subtitles just say [Music] lol
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