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Should You Play Preservation Evoker in The War Within? 

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@sockmonkey3393
@sockmonkey3393 Месяц назад
These thumbnails are straight fire
@youtee_UT
@youtee_UT Месяц назад
Preservation has never been more fun, would highly recommend trying it out!
@AutomaticJak
@AutomaticJak Месяц назад
This message brought to you by Big Preservation
@Auzzy94
@Auzzy94 Месяц назад
i think im maining it swapping from monk i mained it in season 1 of DF and have missed it ever since and feels so fun on the Beta
@Kaos.the.1st
@Kaos.the.1st Месяц назад
@@Auzzy94 Lol, I was the same, Pres S1 (and half s2), and switch to Monk and now I am going back.
@alexandrupetrea8267
@alexandrupetrea8267 Месяц назад
Tried it for the first time in S4 and while I find it very fun, the range is a very off putting. You need the pacience to get out of the 6-9 range of keys, After that, people have some sort of positioning awareness, but if you want to pug at the start of Dragonflight, I can't think of a worse healer.
@ThePolarpop
@ThePolarpop Месяц назад
@@Auzzy94 this sounds weird but i didnt REALIZE how much i missed it til I was prepping toons for the new expac. I mained it Season 1 but didnt play WOW season 2, came back and mained Disc priest S3 and Lock S4 (random alts thru out all seasons but 2), and then I was like grabbing UI profiles pics and selling old stuff on every character and somehow just felt nostalgia seeing my custom UI on Pres and instantly had muscle memory on it lol.
@Soulmatic25
@Soulmatic25 Месяц назад
Mained Pres for season 1 and 4 (played it ofc in season 2 & 3). My absolute favorite healer, range sucks but we have great build diversity, decent skill floor and very high skill ceiling, lots of cds, have every healing profile (hots, burst, heal through damage etc), lots of mobility and crowd control. War Within hero trees both look and feel amazing, so happy to main my fried chicken wing for TWW. Ty for making a vid on this underdog, I mean underdragon!!
@TomDenicaMeel
@TomDenicaMeel Месяц назад
obssesed with ur content keep it coming!
@AutomaticJak
@AutomaticJak Месяц назад
Thank you! Will do!
@marqueswilfong1803
@marqueswilfong1803 Месяц назад
This is the only healer that I've had to sit and weigh pros and cons against my disc priest with, I've played disc for almost 20 years, and this is the one thar made me want to switch
@covermebaby5827
@covermebaby5827 Месяц назад
Absolutely the same. I dont think atonement healing and dmg is enough for dungs rn so im running pres and its Luckily exactly What my guild needs rn.
@lizgunner4361
@lizgunner4361 Месяц назад
Dream breath just makes me reee too much when its a full ranged setup standing at polar opposite directions to each other.
@marqueswilfong1803
@marqueswilfong1803 Месяц назад
Echo one, hit the other
@kaitlynschoudt7779
@kaitlynschoudt7779 Месяц назад
I am swapping from Priest to Preservation Evoker for The War Within. Super excited to play it, especially in keys and hopefully a Big Blossom raid fight or two! Preservation is such a fun spec, I really hope as time goes on Blizzard maintains the fantasy and profile of Preservation and is able to add upon it without overwhelming it.
@einaialliwsnaeisaiaek
@einaialliwsnaeisaiaek Месяц назад
Another banger thumbnail
@ravendogperson
@ravendogperson Месяц назад
no effort ai slop and ur eating it up absolutely shameless
@rizoricos
@rizoricos Месяц назад
Preservation evoker is a very high skill class to play, with your choices changing moment to moment! I have been a preservation main since it's release, and it's preservation for life!
@johnMa7869
@johnMa7869 Месяц назад
Well if you think about it, if you take chronowarden, pres has a part of every tier set they ever had as talent. It’s very understandable that it makes them very powerful
@kingtut8367
@kingtut8367 Месяц назад
The engulf ability gonna go crazy and help compensate the range issues
@DerpFrog112
@DerpFrog112 Месяц назад
Still waiting on Pally/Priest XD Great video Jak! Cant wait for TWW
@ScorpionP2C
@ScorpionP2C Месяц назад
I had to like for the thumbnail alone!
@bonionijeremy6084
@bonionijeremy6084 Месяц назад
I'm playing every healer, I tried this One for the first Time few weeks ago, Very very fun to play !
@Szehkzee
@Szehkzee Месяц назад
IMO preservation is very high skill cap. You can very easily tell who knows what they are doing, and who doesn't.
@jackh0lt
@jackh0lt Месяц назад
I was set on Shaman for WW for resto healing, but I've picked up preservation evoker and Im stoked for it in WW.
@Joel_Servan
@Joel_Servan Месяц назад
Changed my Main to Prevo in S4 and never regreted, for me is the most fun Healer to play
@sjogum
@sjogum Месяц назад
Played Pres in s3, had fun with the spec, but being a dragon put me off after a while. Would play the class if I can choose my race more freely
@vanguelisk
@vanguelisk Месяц назад
and the range limitation especially if you are playing with 3 ranged dps :)
@sjogum
@sjogum Месяц назад
@@vanguelisk actually that was not too bad as long as you can keep convincing yourself its part of the challenge xD
@xSintex
@xSintex Месяц назад
​@@vangueliskits a non issue,nobody stands at 40 yard range dpsing in mplus.
@patrickbryananonuevo8271
@patrickbryananonuevo8271 Месяц назад
Evoker needs another movement ability or needs to fix its range handicap.
@DaMeLoFeLo
@DaMeLoFeLo Месяц назад
W video. Prez UP right now 🙏🏿
@Philip-vs9ou
@Philip-vs9ou Месяц назад
Prevoker was so much fun in Dragonflight, but you dont see your transmogs and you are always in this meh "dragon" form... kills it for me.
@BluenPink
@BluenPink Месяц назад
im scared to play pres. I just feel like its complicated but i guess i just gotta jump in and see for myself
@marqueswilfong1803
@marqueswilfong1803 Месяц назад
It's not hard to learn, a few minutes learning the echo combos and your halfway there, the other half is learning the fights and when the combos are gonna be needed
@fluffiestmarshmallow
@fluffiestmarshmallow Месяц назад
Just try it i belive in ya! It's not really the evoker that's hard to play it's mostly knowing the bosses and trash packs. Obviously you need to know what your spells and skills do but knowing when and where to use them is the #1 thing on pres evoker. Get a feeling for your echo, stasis and big heals and you'll start off just fine ♥
@johangustafsson6243
@johangustafsson6243 Месяц назад
Gdmt Jack makes me wanna play every healer out there I only have time for max 2 ._.
@frechesferkel2749
@frechesferkel2749 Месяц назад
When i see those healthbars drop like this even in +10 Keys then i think preservation is not very noob friendly or it is stress to play.
@OneNvrKnoz
@OneNvrKnoz Месяц назад
Is it just me or is the skill floor really high for preservation compared to something like holly pally or holly priest?
@AutomaticJak
@AutomaticJak Месяц назад
A bit higher but not insane imo
@allan293-f8c
@allan293-f8c Месяц назад
It is pretty high yes. For me at least the only problem is that this kind of healer is a rotation mostly based. And what I wanted to say is that compared with Holy Priest for example, you don't have something like Flash of Heal or Heal to spam in those big trouble situation when you need to spam something to fully heal someone. If you have Cd on your spiritbloom or others cd, oh well, you just spam Living Flame and watch people die. You will find a lot of times trying to do MORE but you can't cause of how the class itself is built.
@tbuksuperfly
@tbuksuperfly Месяц назад
as someone who's played all 3 (though i prefer ivy pallys and priests) i wouldn't say it's any more difficult, i just find it more awkward to maximise. i guess the skill/knowledge comes from knowing to preempt dmg and start your empowered heals casting before it happens rather than reacting, plus positioning is so much more important due to your limited range and cone effect casts. AOE healing I'd argue is far easier due to multiple short cooldown aoe heals, spreading with echo, etc..
@dakotawoodruff2622
@dakotawoodruff2622 Месяц назад
It's pretty high for high keys, mainly because the skill floor for pres can be dependent on your team mates
@ThePolarpop
@ThePolarpop Месяц назад
my first time like TRULY maining healing was deciding to take the leap with pres evoker in s1 of dragonflight, my only healing previously was a small amount of resto shaman in prepatch to DF before i even learned about clickcasting and heal party frames, and honestly? it felt super easy to pick up as a long time Ranged DPS player, but I'm getting to see it fresh unlike another healer player swapping healers. Ironically my first raid tier was also Tomb of Sargeras and i had no idea it was harder than most raids at the time lol kinda bootcamped that 1
@jonathanr49
@jonathanr49 Месяц назад
I’m just a rere but pres is too complex for me and I can play every other healer at a respectable level
@benceilyes9574
@benceilyes9574 Месяц назад
What do you think about prevoker in pvp?
@jshauns
@jshauns Месяц назад
Never played Evoker - thinking about it for TWW, with the option of swapping to Aug if Pres flattens out. Obviously second and third targets would be randomly chosen, Does Spiritbloom prioritize target ( if friendly) to heal if only empowered once, or is it always a triage, healing the lowest target? As always love the videos Jak, you're tenacity to bring top level thumbnails is second to none.
@liamdavies2823
@liamdavies2823 Месяц назад
im pretty sure if you target nobody, rank 1 will just heal you. same as casting any other healing spell with no target
@AutomaticJak
@AutomaticJak Месяц назад
Thank you! And yeah first empower is always your target
@ravendogperson
@ravendogperson Месяц назад
dw he didnt make the thumbnail himself he lets a computer that takes an enormous amount of energy make it
@marqueswilfong1803
@marqueswilfong1803 Месяц назад
Your first rank of spirit bloom is always the target, if multiple ranks are charged smart heal sends it to the players with the lowest health if no one is targeted, but you can still send the first one to a target with multiple charge levels
@ThePrincesseP
@ThePrincesseP Месяц назад
The yeard is so short
@BlueHarvest28
@BlueHarvest28 Месяц назад
Spec has so much utility, feels bad as priest
@alexanderravn4635
@alexanderravn4635 Месяц назад
How u setup party in middle like that as standard ui?
@sumbatranfer9217
@sumbatranfer9217 Месяц назад
holy pala or preservation evoker ???? pls help
@Trostspender
@Trostspender Месяц назад
if they ever buffed its range, there'd be even less of a reason to bring Priests to dungeons 💀
@Turdfergesun
@Turdfergesun Месяц назад
How do we know this is Jak?
@C0rnvillain
@C0rnvillain Месяц назад
On the holy priest talent tree, you swapped back to prayer circle instead of the renew-powered giga CoH? Is that due to the tier set going away?
@AutomaticJak
@AutomaticJak Месяц назад
Yep! Think it updated for wowhead sooner than it was meant to
@C0rnvillain
@C0rnvillain Месяц назад
@@AutomaticJak that disc 4 pc bonus is baffling. We start out damage burst with Mind Blast, so what would you do now, start it with 3 smites then into MB->Penance? I can’t believe they’re letting that go live
@yanivcassuto4198
@yanivcassuto4198 Месяц назад
Or instead of brute heal your way through curses, have a mage companion at all times 😂
@Aggrofool
@Aggrofool Месяц назад
Preservation is awful in PUGs. BM Hunters standing in Africa screaming "HEAL?!?1"
@ianes87
@ianes87 Месяц назад
UI on video is avaliable on your site?
@AutomaticJak
@AutomaticJak Месяц назад
Ye in the description
@creedus4909
@creedus4909 Месяц назад
All these vids about Pres gonna get it nerfed lol
@Xon333
@Xon333 Месяц назад
Appreciate this as I know it’s definitely not for me 😂
@davidgreenberg8456
@davidgreenberg8456 Месяц назад
I care less about overlapping utility with Aug and more about the range limitations
@brofourtwenty2143
@brofourtwenty2143 Месяц назад
Only way i will play evoker is if they implement an option to not be in dragon form at all
@CelestianGC
@CelestianGC Месяц назад
Range range range. Biggest downside.
@dr.zoidberg8666
@dr.zoidberg8666 Месяц назад
Perception is reality. Even if range doesn't really matter especially in light of their incredible mobility, the community has decided on the meme. That's why you shouldn't play prevoker. Because the rabble are prejudiced against them.
@RinaaaYa
@RinaaaYa Месяц назад
This wont stop the spec to become meta if their numbers are high enough.
@drumm24
@drumm24 Месяц назад
I just said this in another comment, but Evoker was created as a high-mobility midrange class: if they buff our range, they'd have to nerf mobility to compensate. The best solution would be to give us stances / forms / auras to swap between 40 yds at reduced mobility or 30 yds at current mobility so people can pick-and-choose.
@cascul
@cascul Месяц назад
My response to that is monk has just as much mobility and none of the range issues
@drumm24
@drumm24 Месяц назад
@@cascul both have roll, mw has sprint vs evoker having aoe sprint + rescue, VE, and deep breath. No dps realistically sit at max range because they lose dps if the mob / tank moves, and positioning yourself ~5yds from the target lets you reach 35yds, so it's really not that big of a difference
@NextPrex
@NextPrex Месяц назад
Blizzard need buff Range for this class IMO. Or lower others healers range for Evoker don't feel yourself in bad situation. Healing with nerfed range very hard and making players avoid that healer.
@juanmatiasohara775
@juanmatiasohara775 Месяц назад
Fully agree. Pres is my favorite healer but I don’t play it because it’s so awful to heal on bad pugs compared to any other healer.
@tbuksuperfly
@tbuksuperfly Месяц назад
low range + non-targeted conal spells def don't feel great
@drumm24
@drumm24 Месяц назад
Evoker was created as a high-mobility midrange class: if they buff our range, they'll have to nerf mobility to compensate, which is going to have differing opinions. The best solution imo would be to give us stances / forms / auras to swap between 40 yds at reduced mobility or 30 yds at current mobility so people can pick-and-choose
@Prime_Logos
@Prime_Logos Месяц назад
Summarized words of many dps players i have played with, "You chose to play that class, the range is your problem, not mine." I love evoker, but I swapped to rshammy over the range 😢.
@drumm24
@drumm24 Месяц назад
@@Prime_Logos it's really not that bad, staying just outside of melee range (~5 yds) gives you the same coverage as mw or hpal standing on the opposite side of a mob. Then you just hit two with TA, echo player 3 while TA travels, and cast heal on player 4 to cover everyone
@Hotshot1301
@Hotshot1301 Месяц назад
Big 2nd
@TheShawnMower
@TheShawnMower Месяц назад
Until they lwt me stay in humanoid form, i will mever main dracthyr
@hiddenflowerto
@hiddenflowerto Месяц назад
Guess you're a Dracthyr main!
@ThePolarpop
@ThePolarpop Месяц назад
@@hiddenflowerto wait did they just add combat humanoid form suddenly or something?
@hiddenflowerto
@hiddenflowerto Месяц назад
@@ThePolarpop there was a tweet from a dev saying it was coming early TWW
@3ssenti4L
@3ssenti4L Месяц назад
Or they can make a less twink looking Drake form. That would be nice.
@BoneJovi456
@BoneJovi456 Месяц назад
Is healing more fun, compared to dragonflight?
@OsyrissTV
@OsyrissTV Месяц назад
BUFF PRES 😤
@Tribalnub
@Tribalnub Месяц назад
Big First?
@tombuzzguy
@tombuzzguy Месяц назад
The AI thumbs kills me
@Anders-B
@Anders-B Месяц назад
Augmentation will stop it being meta, but its still great if you arent playing with sweats.
@stefano1488hh
@stefano1488hh Месяц назад
don't get pres nerfed
@Turdfergesun
@Turdfergesun Месяц назад
😂
@AutomaticJak
@AutomaticJak Месяц назад
I’d never :)
@thanes1239
@thanes1239 Месяц назад
No, I should not play preservation Evoker.
@kazimierzuu
@kazimierzuu Месяц назад
Looks so ugly I just couldn't play it :-D
@vanguelisk
@vanguelisk Месяц назад
level up DF engineering and learn to craft Atomic Recalibrator !
@kazimierzuu
@kazimierzuu Месяц назад
@@vanguelisk i have it, it's just 1h daily :-(
@TheMechanixx_
@TheMechanixx_ Месяц назад
Boring and as long Aug is meta there is no place for any other spec.
@lol13lol94
@lol13lol94 Месяц назад
sounds strong looks booring
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