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Should you replace your printer with a better one? Is it really time to get a better printer? 

Keith Cooper
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Should you get a better printer - what benefits could a new printer give you, or is it just you need to get better results from the one you have? Looking at different reasons to get a new printer and what you could expect.
Is the problem the printer or some other aspect of your photographic workflow? is it a printer for business? What about getting prints made for you?
I've also a video about why sometimes a new printer might not give you the results you were hoping for
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@Lance_Magillicuddy
@Lance_Magillicuddy Год назад
Keith, after watching most of your printer-oriented videos, my takeaway is that printing is more than a notion; it's not necessarily brain surgery, but it’s not plug-and-play either. For hobby purposes, I don’t see how one could possibly print enough to make it worthwhile. In other words, one only has so much wall space, and only so many friends that might want to hang up a seaside sunset image. I fear that the ink nozzles will dry and clog all too soon at such relatively low production. On the other hand, if you can sell prints at sufficient volume and price to make buying a printer cost-effective, then have at it. I think the key really has less to do with the technical aspects of photography and printing and more to do entirely with figuring out how to get your images in front of people with the financial wherewithal to afford to pay you what you need to make it worth your time, which is more than 10 bucks/quid for a print. Easier said than done, but I think the key is not so much creating a website for selling prints, but rather in-person sales of larger prints to people who can afford that, or getting space in a gallery that caters to such persons. I have recently started buying larger prints from a service bureau to start to get the hang of what physical prints look like relative to what I see on the screen. My monitors are calibrated, so the prints are fairly close. I would prefer to have my own printer to more easily fine-tune, but the economics are such that it just doesn’t make sense unless or until I got a level where the print sales would pay for the printing equipment and consumables and maybe turn a little profit as well. I suspect that some, if not most, enthusiasts buy a printer thinking money from print sales will fall from the sky like so much manna from heaven but end up disappointed and owning a boat anchor that largely resembles a printer with dried-up ink. Anyway, your printer videos have gotten me thinking about such things, so I thank you! As a side note, I would be interested in a video about how you archive your terabytes of image files. A NAS on the network? On the Cloud? Bank Vault? What is your system for organizing your files? Directories and subdirectories? Keywords? Lightroom? Adobe Bridge? Something else?
@KeithCooper
@KeithCooper Год назад
Thanks - I agree that printing is a hobby which has ongoing costs. If anything, a lot of my videos/articles are there so that these costs [in all areas] don't come as a shock Yes, printing can be a great thing to do, but in some ways it's like buying a decent motorbike or a classic car - great fun, but do your research first ;-) ...oh and expect ongoing costs! Storage stuff noted...
@dunnymonster
@dunnymonster Год назад
I'm very happy with my Canon Pro 100S but I'm very tempted to replace it with the Epson ET8550 EcoTank simply because of long term ink costs. My Canon has been faultless in the 4 + years I've owned it. At £100 for a set of OEM inks it soon adds up. Given I've been happy with my little ET2650 I'm sure the bigger ET8550 would match the quality my Pro100S with considerably less cost. The fact I can produce my own ICC profiles means it's not a concern if paper suppliers don't support the ET8550 with profiles.
@KeithCooper
@KeithCooper Год назад
Yes - the 8550 gives its best with good paper choices and profiles
@jbairdexp
@jbairdexp Год назад
My Canon Pro-300 is all the printer I need. The only reason I may consider getting a new printer would be if I wanted to start printing A2...but I might then need bigger walls! lol
@KeithCooper
@KeithCooper Год назад
Yes, there is the 'what to do with the prints' question...
@robinjones6999
@robinjones6999 Год назад
Thanks to you Sir, my bank balance is 600 gbp lighter. My knackered Canon is going into the wifes office, since it ok for documents, and my Epson arrives tomorrow!
@KeithCooper
@KeithCooper Год назад
Hope it works well!
@Dagonator
@Dagonator Год назад
What about buying a used printer? I see very good printers for little money on the internet from time to time. 1-2 years old rarely used.
@KeithCooper
@KeithCooper Год назад
Ah - the warning there is 'rarely used' If one thing makes printer faults more likely it's long periods of disuse Yes I would buy a 2nd hand printer, but I'd want to test it extensively first, and even then I'd be wary.
@willemdelange4083
@willemdelange4083 Год назад
Hello Keith, I am a fan of your channel. I just wonder what kind of books you have in the background of you? Is it beneficial for us to have some insight in that?
@KeithCooper
@KeithCooper Год назад
I've done occasional book reviews and coverage of this for the ones I read/look at a lot A lot don't get looked at that often - I collect photography related books from charity shops I'll have another look!
@curtbrandhorst2403
@curtbrandhorst2403 Год назад
Easy... my current printer does average prints at best, and sim-ply drinks ink doing it.
@KeithCooper
@KeithCooper Год назад
Yes - that will do...
@user-xk4we7sw4z
@user-xk4we7sw4z Год назад
Looking forward to your testing the new L8050 printer from epson. It is a true 5-color design. But it seems that the weather resistance of the ink is not as good as ET-8500.
@KeithCooper
@KeithCooper Год назад
It's the ET-18100 here - not sure of other model designations. I still don't have an ETA for it though...
@user-xk4we7sw4z
@user-xk4we7sw4z Год назад
@@KeithCooper Here in China, it was available for online shopping about 7 days ago, and someone has received the printer in the past two days. In China, the machine sells for about $247 in A4 format.
@KeithCooper
@KeithCooper Год назад
Ah, it's the A3+ 18100 I'll be looking at
@user-xk4we7sw4z
@user-xk4we7sw4z Год назад
@@KeithCooper The a3's cost around $640 in China. . . For comparison, the p700 is p708 in China and sells for about $856. The cartridges are too expensive! $40 a cartridge. . So I saw a p5000 in the second-hand market, the p5000 with the print head station replaced, $900 , and it has printed about 3,000 sheets after 3 years of use. Always use original ink. Hesitating between p5000 or pro1000
@KeithCooper
@KeithCooper Год назад
@@user-xk4we7sw4z A P5000 is great BUT needs regular use - I'd want to test it before I risked a used printer...
@richardallan2331
@richardallan2331 Год назад
I am seriously considering upgrading my printer soon. I think printing is a fun & exciting part of photography. I am on my 4th photo printer, an Epson Stylus Photo R2880. This thing must be going on 15 years old or so & has lasted longer than the previous 3 put together. I reckon it's paid for itself many times over. I am still very happy with the print quality - no problems there. I am starting to find the ink cartridges harder to find & the prices are going up. Also, I would like to start printing bigger. I am looking at an Epson P900 (P906 here in Australia) as it's not much bigger than my A3+ printer in physical size. The other attraction is the ability to have matt & gloss black inserted together. This is the other major downside to what I have now. Also the ability to print on roll paper much more easily is another advantage. I just wish we had more brands of paper available here such as the fotospeed which you seem to use quite often. Inkjet paper is very expensive here & not easily available where I live. Not anymore anyway.
@KeithCooper
@KeithCooper Год назад
A good printer, but if you really need roll paper support [really...] then the P5000 has a much better roll feed setup - but it still does have the black ink swap www.northlight-images.co.uk/review-epson-p5000-printer/ www.northlight-images.co.uk/epson-sc-p900-printer-review/
@richardallan2331
@richardallan2331 Год назад
I think the P5000 is probably a bit outside my price restraints. And also maybe my space restraints also. We have a P5070 here. Is that the same? It has green & orange inks but you have to choose between violet & one of the greys during setup & can’t change later. Anyway, I’ll have a look at your P5000 reviews. Thanks…
@KeithCooper
@KeithCooper Год назад
Yes - the 5000 is a different number in some markets The review covers the grey/violet choice [grey for photo use]
@richardallan2331
@richardallan2331 Год назад
@@KeithCooper I do quite a lot of B & W printing so I wouldn't choose the violet over grey. I had a Canon printer before this one with orange & green inks. I can't say I really missed those colours when I replaced it with the 2880.
@KeithCooper
@KeithCooper Год назад
@@richardallan2331 The grey contributes relatively little to B&W performance - it is mainly about smoother transitions in colour images, whilst the violet is about expanding gamut for proofing purposes [the main market for the P5000] It's interesting to see the violet appearing in the P900/700 ink set - this suggests changes in Epson's approach with the new print head, allowing more precise droplet size/position control
@Callmedstone
@Callmedstone Год назад
Hi Keith, I’ve had a burning question to which I have yet to find much information online. This is a two part question. How do modern printers stack up to darkroom printing techniques? To throw an additional level of complexity to this broad and false comparison, could a hybrid workflow potentially deliver magic unicorn prints? And how theoretical is this? What ultimately led me to this question was asking myself why there weren’t machines which automate the darkroom printing process. I have seen and read about stunning prints created from silver gelatin and the like, but from what I understand pigment , laser, and dye printers have benefits and tradeoffs. So I’m wondering if there’s such a thing as a theoretical or practical hybrid solution. I find this the domain super fascinating . Sometimes I’ll see videos about UV, lambda, or other printing processes - some of which aren’t intended for photo printing, but whereby I find myself wondering if applying a certain process or paint/ink/something could magically give prints a wow factor . I hope this question makes sense. Myself, I’m particularly interested in black and white, but since you often mention the complexity of monochrome printing I’m even more curious. The precision of 3D and off the shelf laser or inkjet printers has me assuming that those machines are more than capable of dealing with alignment issues. Is there a secret cabal keeping all of the magic sauce hidden from the prying eyes of the peasantry or is this nothing more than mental gymnastics ?
@KeithCooper
@KeithCooper Год назад
Digital negatives are a thing... print on plastic film, use it as a big neg to make a contact print on your favourite paper - you can even do stuff like platinum printing. If you want to modify a printer, then there are specialist monochrome ink-sets. None of these are 'simple' solutions - they need quite a lot of expertise. They are not 'click and print' solutions...
@Callmedstone
@Callmedstone Год назад
​@@KeithCooper Right, the digital negative domain is what partially piqued my interest and how I ended up learning about lambda printing.thanks
@giovannibaga6108
@giovannibaga6108 Год назад
I will change my printer only because it's broken or if it will be on the market a new printer with similar performances and a much, much lower ink cost to justify a investment in new technology. I don't see other reasons.
@KeithCooper
@KeithCooper Год назад
An obvious improvement in media handling might convince me for some printers.
@victoro3210
@victoro3210 Год назад
Hi Keith can you recommend any photo paper companies that makes 13” rolls of glossy photo paper,I’ve been searching but haven’t found any, I see videos of people printing with 13”wide prints are they cutting it to size (13”) because they don’t make 13” roll size paper, it’s for making panoramic photos an my pro 200 allows up to 13” paper
@KeithCooper
@KeithCooper Год назад
Fotospeed [UK] had some available IIRC Epson do premium glossy in such rolls I recall
@sylviastagg-giuliano6229
@sylviastagg-giuliano6229 Год назад
Do you know if there is a Rip for canon if 6400? Thank you for all your information
@KeithCooper
@KeithCooper Год назад
is that the iPF6400? Shiraz Rosetta still supports all the older printers [my review of the 6400 was in 2013...] I've not used it though shiraz-software.com/canon-rip/
@sylviastagg-giuliano6229
@sylviastagg-giuliano6229 Год назад
@@KeithCooper Thank you!
@palindromic7873
@palindromic7873 5 месяцев назад
The last person to ask is the guy with something to gain by selling you a new one. Something to do with independence i think.
@KeithCooper
@KeithCooper 5 месяцев назад
Indeed... One reason I don't sell printers/paper/ink ;-)
@ared18t
@ared18t Год назад
Wait I have a printer?
@KeithCooper
@KeithCooper Год назад
Yes - in a box, under the table...
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