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Thinking about Getting Into Home Photo Printing? Be Careful What You Wish For! 

Jose Rodriguez Photo Printing Techie
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@a-musing
@a-musing 4 года назад
I have watched so many photographers talk about printing and none of them mentioned this stuff. Thank you so much Jose. Appreciate you.
@cheo1949
@cheo1949 4 года назад
That's why I do this. Thank you.
@ApAnOfWoRmS
@ApAnOfWoRmS 3 года назад
For real bro. I just shot downtown Manhattan last night and stumbled on his videos prior to swiping my card. Love this info.
@jimmi8928
@jimmi8928 3 года назад
This is true
@barclayjb
@barclayjb 7 лет назад
Good message Jose. From your recommendation I have committed to printing from my Cannon Pro10 once every 60 hours or less. This has made me a better printer. I am getting my prints right the first time now (most of the time). It also makes me a better photographer because I now feel I need to go out and photograph at least once a week so I have something new to print. This has been a better investment than a new lens or camera.
@cheo1949
@cheo1949 7 лет назад
There is a system to all of this. The only variables are really your images! The "System" should be reproducing your images as they are.
@i3aluchi
@i3aluchi 6 лет назад
This video was an eye-opener for me. I was considering getting one of the pro printers so I can print from home and negate the need for a lab. After seeing this video, I changed my mind. Yes labs are expensive, but so are pro printers! Thank you Jose
@cheo1949
@cheo1949 6 лет назад
They are a huge commitment but...they give you instant results.
@i3aluchi
@i3aluchi 6 лет назад
Having said that, I just received my prints from an international lab, and they were (slightly) damaged during transportation. Now that I am more aware of pros and cons of each option (lab and home), I might consider home printing again but only after more thorough research.
@gerulfmark7846
@gerulfmark7846 4 года назад
Starting almost twenty years with an Epson 1290, it´s been a long and steep learning curve for me, and from my experience your advice to beginners is spot on. I think your videos are amazing.
@cheo1949
@cheo1949 4 года назад
Thank you. I an Epson 1280 though.
@gerulfmark7846
@gerulfmark7846 4 года назад
@@cheo1949 I think they were the same, just different numbers in Europe and USA
@MBSKanal
@MBSKanal 4 года назад
Absolutely don’t need a second wife... Good job Jose, thanks for that honest video. We need more of these kind of videos on RU-vid.
@cheo1949
@cheo1949 4 года назад
The Pro1000 is an expensive mistress!!
@torbjornwiken
@torbjornwiken Год назад
Great advise! I used a couple of years to decide to buy the Canon Pro 1000 due to the fact I knew it would take commitment both money wise and actual printing. It also took some time to accept the printing costs. But when you do; its the best hobby! Holding a printed picture you are happy with, is next level!
@c64club
@c64club 6 месяцев назад
Bought half-pro Epson 8550. I was ready for what you said before I found it, just by "thinking in advance". But not everybody is technical person, so your rare advice can be a real treasure. My case contains two factors. 1. I had no more time time and patience for "trial and error" with another and another labs. 2. I'm in camera club. There is no problem for me to have some job for my printer three times a week. And if I need longer journey, i have few people in my city, to whom I can give my printer to take care. Care not by nonproductive "clean heads" prints but to make pictures. Not only I can print like I need, but also provide perfectly consulted prints for others.
@thierryhoornaert9950
@thierryhoornaert9950 2 года назад
Thanks. I switched to the Epson ET-8550 A3+ all in one printer. The ink cost is next to nothing. I can afford to print every day
@georgecastro181
@georgecastro181 Год назад
I just purchased the same printer and I absolutely love it!
@c64club
@c64club 6 месяцев назад
Just starting with the same printer (8180 in my country). I US you have Color Precision pigment ink set available, as Jose have mentioned and even hosted this set's author on his channel. In Europe, one company from Austria provides very same prpduct + service. Six pigment inks plus ready-mwde ICC profiles for most of papers made by three most popular brands and for their brand papers. Farbwerke - worth to try unless you fill ypur Epson with mix of OEM hybrid inkset. Worth every panny/grosz/öre/eurocent spent.
@muhammadwijaya5635
@muhammadwijaya5635 4 года назад
I'm really glad I saw this video, as I was about to buy a photo quality printer. Saved by the bell, so to speak.
@cheo1949
@cheo1949 4 года назад
Great.
@sammariofan
@sammariofan 3 года назад
Thank you for this video. I just bought the 1000. Thankfully, I've been a hobby artist for 4 years and have over 100 paintings laying around that are quality to make prints, my online audience has expanded over the years too and I plan on going to local art stores shows to sell. I'm so happy with this printer and I can't wait to dive in to it!
@jimmi8928
@jimmi8928 3 года назад
What’s your IG ?
@john-ze7eu
@john-ze7eu 3 года назад
I've never had a clog in my epson 3800. Let it sit for 3 years once when i took a break from my hobby. Fired it up, ran a cleaning... Worked great.
@ralphnetta4563
@ralphnetta4563 4 года назад
Wow! I was considering making a sizable investment into a Cannon professional model printer 🖨 and of course before hand 🖐🏻 I watched many RU-vid videos on the subject of different models and testimonials and LUCKILY came across your video on this very subject. Not only have you Sir saved me a sizable amount of money 💰 but many hours and Aggravation!!! Well, needless too say I decided against buying the Cannon but will instead purchase another Prime lens. I never even considered all the maintenance and after thought in owning such a high end product, thank you. I’m a photographer, that’s what I do! Printing is an afterthought. Being a photographer I’m away to various parts of the world 🌎 often and for extended periods of time, and since I have many expensive photography related items in my home I never would even consider too have a neighbor enter too run a maintenance on a printer 🖨 .... So! Bottom line - No Printer ( lots of💰 time & aggravation saved) add a Prime - Thank You 🙏🏻
@joecerda630
@joecerda630 7 лет назад
Man...should have seen this video before I got my Pro 1...lol...j/k...I love it...at this point I feel like my photos aren't done until I print.
@cheo1949
@cheo1949 7 лет назад
Maybe you should!d say ANY dedicated photo printer! They can be the thing since sliced bread OR a Money Pit if not used optimally.
@markfarnell183
@markfarnell183 7 лет назад
I thought long and hard about the switch to precision colors for my pro 100. Over 90% of my printing ends up bound in books for my own viewing pleasure and sharing with friends. Fading is not a consideration and the cost is an extension of my photography hobby. Any prints I display get changed as new images come along to compete for wall space. Maybe the fascination with 100 year archival quality is over rated for home printing. So far my pro 100 seems remarkably tolerant to neglect, with 2 or 3 week printing holidays and no clogs. Its a wonderful machine.
@cheo1949
@cheo1949 7 лет назад
Stop worrying about that! Of course inks that cost 1/8th of OEM will not last as long before physical fading is noticed. Albums will protect your prints for decades!!! I have about 20 prints I truly care about. They are darkroom silver prints!!! The digital ones can always be reprinted. Most will outlive me! Even without extra protection! And by the way I have several thousand prints! I am going to have to do another video on this subject and hopefully clear the air about this once and for all but I highly doubt it.
@brad9265
@brad9265 4 года назад
I just ordered an epson XP 15000. I hope it works out ok. I can feel an obsession coming. I’ll be frequenting your channel. Subscribed.
@cheo1949
@cheo1949 4 года назад
Hope you plan on only using OEM inks. Be aware there are no refillable carts with auto reset chips. Single use chips are available but cost about $10-12 each you add ink and well, it does not make much financial sense compared to OEM.
@brad9265
@brad9265 4 года назад
@@cheo1949 Thank you. Yes, I am going to use OEM inks. I will print every week on a 4x6 size sheet to help conserve ink and prevent clogging. I plan on saving the 8x10 and 13x19 prints for my "best" work that I feel warrants a bigger print. If you feel like another approach at saving ink costs would be more effective I would love to hear your thoughts. Thank you, and happy printing!
@official6arz
@official6arz 4 года назад
1. No problem if you have money. 2. This is for people who are serious about art and photography. Once you take your profession serious you'll realize this printer is no problem at all. If you want a printer for documents etc etc. Go get a toy printer.
@cheo1949
@cheo1949 4 года назад
I have to agree.
@anthonypetit7984
@anthonypetit7984 7 лет назад
Excellent topic! Thanks for the education that has made me plan my entry into printing instead of just leaping into it blind.
@cheo1949
@cheo1949 7 лет назад
That's the idea. Every single day I read about printer owners who had not idea what they were getting into. I've had plenty of successes and plenty of regrets. Just trying to keep others from the same regrets I've had to deal with.
@harley22x
@harley22x 4 года назад
This has been a good informative video for my consideration! I am looking to get into the print business, and looking for it as a business venture than a personal one. Talking to a few local photographers in my area, there is a definite demand for prints, on various media. I expect a printer to be printing daily
@ramzivareldzis5477
@ramzivareldzis5477 4 года назад
I just invested in the canon pro 100 and I am so thankful for your message..
@cheo1949
@cheo1949 4 года назад
Enjoy that PRO100.
@HulkStillGotIt
@HulkStillGotIt 4 года назад
Thank you for this. I try to tell people this all of the time. I am a photographer. I do not have a home printer. Even for my test prints, I use MPIX. There is no good reason for me to own a home printer when a lab is so cheap. I have done the math and I cannot print at home for cheaper than using a lab. Way back when the Epson R series was new, I had a home printer. Not anymore. I wish people understood why this is really not a good option for someone that is not printing and selling multiple photos per day.
@kksrinivas24
@kksrinivas24 4 года назад
Thanks for the video. Appreciate it . Its an eye opener. I hardly give my time to edit photos, forget about printing. Let shutterfly take care of my prints.
@cheo1949
@cheo1949 4 года назад
Glad it helped make up your minds. I would not make it as a commission only printer seller.
@paulcritchley464
@paulcritchley464 3 года назад
Thank you Jose. We're in Lockdown down in NZ I'm just about to buy the Canon Pro 1000, your information gives fruit for thought I've had this Canon Pro 9500 since about 2003. Used it for printing building drawings just use a drat to save the ink and of course photos. My understanding is it is night and day the quality in the difference of the printers. Advantage of the pro 1000 I would have is I can print A2 for the drawings plus the quantity for photos. So I need to print a 4x6 print every second day. In our lockdown Ive been making picture frames from demolition native timber(we're not allowed to cut Native Timber any more, which is great) also been using farm fence battens native and there is a rustic look to them. They really look cool You've given me fruit for thought that for sure Cheers
@edubbwebber5469
@edubbwebber5469 3 месяца назад
Thank you for sharing this truth.
@gregcorker2193
@gregcorker2193 Год назад
Very informative. I have a couple of multi function inkjets. They are generally used for text an copying black and white documents. When I do want to print images, I find I generally have to run the cleaning cycle 4 times to ensure all nozzles are clear and the printer is functioning optimally. Your video makes it clear I have to think carefully about how I would use and maintain a dedicated photo printer like a CANON ProGraf 1000.
@CJBradley
@CJBradley Год назад
As a photographer Iv'e been printing for 25 years I use a Pro 200 for pro printing at least once a week maybe make a 6x4 just to keep it happy and it gives me no trouble but expect a yearly ink cost of at least three to five hundred maybe more, if that seems a lot you probaly can't afford it. I have several others and a Canon MG5750 for general office work and print half decent photos on it with third party inks, seriously.! but they will fade unless you put them in a box away from light. Printing does not have to be expensive there are plenty of used printers out there for not much money. Buy matched inks and papers from a trusted supplier and stick with it, don't mix and match or you will get into trouble. My next purchase will be the Canon Pro-1000 but at five hundred for a set of inks, they are expensive and I wouldn't dream of using third party inks on anything but a cheap A4 jobby I learned my lesson the hard way.
@grantlesueur
@grantlesueur 7 лет назад
I use ink jet plumber on my Mac based on Jose’s advice. No problems at all. I have had NO success in training the cat to run print jobs.
@cheo1949
@cheo1949 7 лет назад
Thanks for the feed back! The person who wrote the code to this program is also supposed to be working on a windows version. Don't give up on the cat just yet!
@markrigg6623
@markrigg6623 5 лет назад
I got my cat to run print jobs but they were very paw quality.
@KCSiebert
@KCSiebert 4 года назад
@@markrigg6623 bahaahahahahahaaha
@paulscottfilms
@paulscottfilms 4 года назад
Everyone knows cats are stupid, the dog will do it with only a day's training.
@ricodeco2139
@ricodeco2139 Год назад
Thank you for taking the time to reaffirm this hard truth once and for all. I was just considering buying a new print head for my petrified Pro-100. Question... for those of us who want to make occasional prints in home and are simply unable to keep an ink jet happy, are you aware of any laser printers that do a respectable job? I am a "B&W only" photographer who would gladly sacrifice a little quality at this point in return for a printer that doesn't mind sitting idle for extended periods of time. I keep hearing about newer "image quality" laser units being better than expected on good paper, but it's tough to find working floor models anywhere to get a sample print made. Just wondering if you might have any insight? Thank you for sharing your knowledge with the world, wishing you the best.
@jcardenaz1982
@jcardenaz1982 2 года назад
You sir are a hero. Thank you for providing the exact information I needed.
@JGSongsYT
@JGSongsYT 5 лет назад
such a good lot of advice. My only fear is that today's generation won't wait 17 minutes and 46 seconds to get it. All the reasons you describe are why I use a photo lab for printing my photography instead of doing it at home which would be so much more expensive per print. Keep it coming...
@cheo1949
@cheo1949 5 лет назад
Young people do not tend to print. Internet is the way. Its when they grow out of that mentality that they learn that the slow methodical way is the best. Short attention span runs rampant.
@2cleverxhalf
@2cleverxhalf 5 лет назад
You're great. Thanks for sharing your obvious experience with printing.
@cheo1949
@cheo1949 5 лет назад
Thanks you for watching Jack! Take care!
@agathedavain
@agathedavain 6 лет назад
As always, you’re the one for printers! Thanks for your video. I do understand why my office printer is so long to be ready when I use it from times to times ;)
@cheo1949
@cheo1949 6 лет назад
Unfortunately they need daily use to keep them happy!
@starlite528
@starlite528 4 года назад
Saw an Epson printer at an e-waste place, picked it up for $90. not a good investment, the print head was totally clogged and nothing I did could remedy it, and I wasn't going to pay upwards of $1500 for a new print head (it was the Epson Stylus Pro 9890). I salvaged all the motors and boards out of it and put the whole thing in the dumpster. This was 2 weeks ago. Last week we got a HP Z3200 44" from an ebay seller, local pickup, for $300. Needs a new carriage belt which should get here tomorrow. This should be a much better deal. The inks are cheaper, the heads are easily replaceable and not all colors in one unit either. Wish me luck :)
@newsigmundfreud3023
@newsigmundfreud3023 4 года назад
*Words of wisdom.* Thanks Jose.
@cheo1949
@cheo1949 4 года назад
Thank you!
@kevint6757
@kevint6757 7 лет назад
Nice to hear an honest and informed opinion for a change.
@cheo1949
@cheo1949 7 лет назад
Thanks Kevin!
@DJDavidShmosh
@DJDavidShmosh 2 года назад
Wow. Thank you so much for this. I’m just gonna get a scanner for my 35mm film and rely on a lab for my very limited work for now
@Clint_the_Audio-Photo_Guy
@Clint_the_Audio-Photo_Guy Год назад
My printer requires a cleaning cycle every time I turn it on to print a shipping label. I need a new set of inks about every 5 photos I print. Holy expensive printer. Such tiny ink tanks too. 3 complete sets of ink, and I might have a total of 30 prints out of it. Never noticed a clog though.
@scottman572
@scottman572 3 года назад
Was looking at Pro-10 and Pro-100 but after all this, I saved a lot and got XP-15000....Wife can print photos for house and I can do my oversized prints for airbrush stencils and copies of my other artwork mediums...being able to test my 11x17 true to size prior to making a mistake will be amazing
@Bassbarbie
@Bassbarbie 7 лет назад
Excellent video. My Pro1 still in box as I await a chunk of time to get it set up and learn to use it. I reckon some people could benefit from your relationship advice too :)
@cheo1949
@cheo1949 7 лет назад
Good luck setting it up!
@Slaskhinken
@Slaskhinken 3 года назад
I realised this when I was buying a cheap printer, the ink dries out and it also depends on the climate you keep the printer in . Not to hot not too cold . I work for a company who fix printers and it’s the same issue all the time , the users don’t know how to keep their machines running . That’ why businesses are using laser jets instead , it’s powder that that gets charged and melted on to the paper and that’s why you can keep them longer without running . But they are not made for photo printing …
@RizaGunturPrakoso
@RizaGunturPrakoso Год назад
home printing is okay as long as we use canon G500/G600 printers :D
@PaulFerzoco
@PaulFerzoco 7 лет назад
Super-good advice! Most people have no idea what they've gotten into.
@cheo1949
@cheo1949 7 лет назад
Been there and done that! That is why I had to do this video.
@longliveclassicmusic
@longliveclassicmusic 4 года назад
I was hoping to get a Canon pro printer and was comparing the 10 to the 100 a few months ago. That's how I found your channel. I decided to wait. I definitely want to get into home printing eventually and will actually probably get the Pro-1000. But I'm waiting until I can pair it with a desktop computer (an iMac preferably) that can be on all the time to run scheduled prints every 2 days to avoid purges, and I'll also be wanting to hook it up to a backup power system so in the event of a power surge or outage the printer will never ever ever lose power, yet another trigger for a purge. I'll also probably do Prismacolor refills, but that's another big decision since I would rather use archival-quality inks that last as long as possible. But then there is the domino effect you've spoken of regarding every time you change a cartridge the whole printer does a purge, so… Refilling two sets of carts to switch between may be unavoidable. Your channel truly is so valuable. I've learned so much. Apart from putting me off, it's made me want to wait until I can do it RIGHT.
@cheo1949
@cheo1949 4 года назад
Just so you know...we now know there is no way to disable or avoid the Auto maintenance cleaning cycles. They will occur as needed whether you print or not. Printing will not prevent them. In fact it is printing that creates the need for them. Residue is produced inside the print head during printing and that needs to be flushed out periodically as needed and detected by the printer. Do not use compatible carts on your Canon printer. If you must refill..only refill your original cartridges. Watch more of my CANON printer videos for all the info concerning that. I have video playlists for each printer.
@darrenscaysbrook6038
@darrenscaysbrook6038 4 года назад
Many thanks for the advice. Made my mind up for me. The lab will still be printing my work.
@cheo1949
@cheo1949 4 года назад
Often that is the best option
@htorres1stk
@htorres1stk 5 лет назад
Thank you for the honesty. Saved your website as now I know where to buy ink for my epson 7600
@cheo1949
@cheo1949 5 лет назад
Thanks
@pseunok
@pseunok 4 года назад
I live in Japan and pay 34 usd per one A3 (giclee), and thats lowest I could find, thats why I consider buying pro 1000
@cheo1949
@cheo1949 4 года назад
You will be printing A3 for about $3 plus media!
@pseunok
@pseunok 4 года назад
@@cheo1949 thanks for taking time and answering. And by the way, great channel, looking forward for more videos!
@cheo1949
@cheo1949 4 года назад
Thanks!
@wjgraham63
@wjgraham63 2 года назад
I love watching him. Too funny!! 🤣🤣
@irvinggreines822
@irvinggreines822 3 года назад
Thanks for your very helpful and clear advice.
@arnoldthiongo6017
@arnoldthiongo6017 4 года назад
Thank you so much Jose. Bless up!!
@cheo1949
@cheo1949 4 года назад
You are welcome.
@arnoldthiongo6017
@arnoldthiongo6017 4 года назад
@@cheo1949 would you kindly happen to know anything about canvas printing, the best type and printer to use...best printer and cheaper but good quality as well... I'll appreciate
@cheo1949
@cheo1949 4 года назад
Any 13" and larger PIGMENT ink Printer CANON or EPSON will produce the best results. Most CANVAS is Matte so you need a printer that uses MATTE BLACK ink NOT DYE based inks.
@magik8566
@magik8566 4 года назад
I hand clean my Epson R2400 with paper towels, swabs and alcool - running the cleaning cycles without this hand cleaning of the jets and other parts will only burn ink like crazy. I use the CIS kits for ink, huge savings. All-in-all it is an expensive process no matter what you do. If you use dyes instead of pigment, it is cheaper but less resistant to UV.
@cheo1949
@cheo1949 4 года назад
You shouldn't have to be doing so many nozzle cleanings on the R2400. If you just print at least two to three times a week you will avoid having to perform any other kind of a cleaning process. CIS units can also introduce ink delivery problems if not height adjusted perfectly.
@jay_arson5075
@jay_arson5075 4 года назад
While I do print photos since I had photograpy class, Im an animation student, I got a brother t710w all in one for documents and scanning my drawings it did the job really well never had a problem till like recently, 2yrs after usage my colors are off just refilled my colored ink tanks and it fixed it and the inks are only 20 usd. I print for fun so I never had a need for fancy printers plus I never needed to print beyond a4 sized photos or artworks.
@LeonardROBBINS-h8u
@LeonardROBBINS-h8u Год назад
😊
@ibringthelastwords1358
@ibringthelastwords1358 3 года назад
Pops nailed it! Thanks 😁👍
@VictorMawhinney
@VictorMawhinney 4 года назад
Boy am i glad i came across you sir . Very informative .👍👍👍👍
@cheo1949
@cheo1949 4 года назад
Thank you Victor.
@MamaBoozy
@MamaBoozy 4 года назад
I just came across your video about maintenance. I am considering the new imagePROGRAF PRO-300 - so I will be sure to contact Canon before I purchase it. My main purpose is to make art quality prints of my watercolors paintings and I like the ability to print 13 x 19. I contacted the third party ink supplier I use for my little Canon Pixma, and they said they won't be carrying the ink cartridges for this model. SO - I already knew I'd be getting Canon ink. Thank you for your information -
@cheo1949
@cheo1949 4 года назад
Watch last weeks Live Stream for a Full Live set up of that printer and some eye opening info. You might want to reconsider the PRO 300
@MamaBoozy
@MamaBoozy 4 года назад
@@cheo1949 I'll try to find that - I see there is one starting in a few minutes:)
@albertocabrera6614
@albertocabrera6614 4 года назад
This is very true in 2019. I got a Pro-10 for free from Canon. I haven't bother to set it up yet because of all the reasons you have mentioned. I can't even sell it for $100. A $600 printer sitting in a box LOL. I just have no time.
@cheo1949
@cheo1949 4 года назад
The rubber rollers will eventually deteriorate. So try to come up with something to do with it.
@albertocabrera6614
@albertocabrera6614 4 года назад
@@cheo1949 oh wow. It's been with me for almost 2 years. I imagined it would be okay if it was still sealed in the box.
@albertocabrera6614
@albertocabrera6614 4 года назад
@@cheo1949 if that would the case. I might as well use it. LOL
@cheo1949
@cheo1949 4 года назад
Yes. Set it up. Check out my Basic Printing PLAYLIST. And my PRO10 Playlists .
@BurningDrake39
@BurningDrake39 3 года назад
Thank you, was almost buying a pro 10 for a fourth of the price, that was the catch. Not so sure I want to do it anymore
@chimpmunkboy8850
@chimpmunkboy8850 6 лет назад
Jose, I’m glad I found your channel, it has helped me already. I bought a Canon pro 10. I have quite a bit of family prints that I want to make, most of them smaller prints, 8x10, but mostly 4x6 or 5x7. What is your rough estimate of the cost of printing your own prints, compared to a online pro printer like MPIX. Using OEM paper and inks, do you think it’s 10% more expensive or 20% more expensive (or more) to print your own prints? I have printed some with the pro 10 and I am very happy as the skin tones are even better than what I’ve gotten from online pro labs. Thanks!!
@cheo1949
@cheo1949 6 лет назад
There is a very good print cost comparison between printers at the RedRiver Paper Site. It will be much more expensive initially due to the cost of all the things you will need to really produce top quality prints. Printer, Inks, Monitor Calibrator, Equipment to produce custom paper printing profiles. But one you get set up and you are able to print consistently with great results, it will be much more reasonable. Instant gratification and the ability to instantly be able to reprint something after a slight adjustment trumps any savings you might get from an external lab.
@7alken
@7alken 5 лет назад
Hi, You are saving lot of people money - those canon pros are really nice but they must be running in hard business mode, sure ... and they are runing in photolabs, so, they are shared effectivelly
@maurofieni
@maurofieni Год назад
great advise
@RobertKarlBerta
@RobertKarlBerta Год назад
On my PRO 100 I set the AUTO OFF to never happen....so the printer is always on. If you shut down the print it will auto run a cleaning cycle when you turn it on ever if not needed. The amount of energy used when the printer is left on all the time is virtually nothing. Also as Jose says....print a small print every couple of days if you aren't going to use it.
@livingstone6275
@livingstone6275 3 года назад
Precision Colors says in his review of the Pro 100 archival quality is "largely a non issue if the correct papers are chosen. Using swellable papers like HP Premium Plus or Ilford Galerie line puts this pretty close to the pigments. If 50 + years is not enough well then move onto pigment inks." Would it be suitable using PC inks and aforementioned papers for photo exhibitions?
@elizabethandiosa4579
@elizabethandiosa4579 9 месяцев назад
Thank you.
@cheo1949
@cheo1949 9 месяцев назад
You're welcome!
@MrRenoman2011
@MrRenoman2011 2 года назад
Thanks Jose much appreciated
@PremJay
@PremJay 4 года назад
thank you. i was thinking of getting one but now i will look for a good lab
@cheo1949
@cheo1949 4 года назад
Often it is the best option!
@sara505sings
@sara505sings 2 года назад
Too late for me. I started out in the dark room, many years ago, making prints and I've had high-end Canon printers for the last 20 years, most recently the pro 1000. Is it without issues? No. Is it cheap? No. Is it a lot of damn work? Yes. But I wouldn't give it up for a million dollars. To me, the print is everything, and to be able to go out and take a photo, be excited about it, and come home and print it, mat it, and frame it, or print up a series of greeting cards for my small gallery, is worth every penny.
@gerhardtaxthelm6581
@gerhardtaxthelm6581 4 года назад
Thanks for some real good advice. Something I wish I'd have heard sooner.
@cheo1949
@cheo1949 4 года назад
Glad it helped.
@miorafeuni
@miorafeuni 4 года назад
one of the best video about printers
@cheo1949
@cheo1949 4 года назад
Well thank you! Hope it helps.
@eliaspap8708
@eliaspap8708 5 лет назад
Most good printers have a spitoon unit, what this does is allow the printheads to clear there throat before a print and also if they have been idle for to long, most printers also run cleaning cycles without you knowing, they automatically do this before each print as well as pass over the spittoon, they other clever thing that the high end printers have is a drop detect sensor, this checks each nozzle through an LED array & it finds a high ratio of a particular printhead with nozzles down, it will purge that particular head and also complete a cleaning cycle, although i agree with this video in the main. Most modern high end printers today are designed to counteract low volume usage by using the methods above.
@cheo1949
@cheo1949 5 лет назад
Sort of. I like the terms you use. But it is a color channel and not a print head. The print head is the complete unit. Printers do utilize built in safe guards to "Save" the unsuspecting user who knows thing about inkjet technology from the mistakes of not printing often. Purge pad, not spittoon although it is a pretty close description.
@eliaspap8708
@eliaspap8708 5 лет назад
Im a technician i fix these printers everyday, purge unit is one thing, spitoon is another, most good printers have both.
@cheo1949
@cheo1949 5 лет назад
Spittoon?? Show me that part in any Service manual!
@eliaspap8708
@eliaspap8708 5 лет назад
Jose Rodriguez its very common part, en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inkjet_spittoon
@cheo1949
@cheo1949 5 лет назад
So isn't that the purge pad??? Where the print head gets pre primed before a print job begins. That rectangular unit consists of a ceramic porous "Sponge" sorounded by a peripheral sealing gasket to allow the peristaltic pump to apply vacuum to the nozzle plate so the print head can be successfully cleaned. That then channels the waste ink generated down to either the internal waste ink pads or internal user replaceable waste ink cartridge or tank depending on the printer modle. Sorry but that Wikipedia source was horribly written and I still can not find the term spittoon on any of my dozens of official professional photo printer service manuals I own. Maybe that's what you repair guys call it but I don't think it's an official term.
@erikdravn
@erikdravn 6 лет назад
Thank you. You just saved me a ton of money and endless aggravation! I'll stick to third party prints! I wanted a printer, but I am a weekend hobbyist photographer, not a pro.
@cheo1949
@cheo1949 6 лет назад
That's great. Glad to help out
@charliedebravo3960
@charliedebravo3960 4 года назад
I printed some of works using my home printer .... Canon & Epson
@cheo1949
@cheo1949 4 года назад
Ok.
@barrysharoff6537
@barrysharoff6537 7 лет назад
Jose, did I understand you correctly that even prints made with Precision Colors inks using a Pro-100 will only last 1/10 as long as those made with Canon OEM inks due to fading?
@cheo1949
@cheo1949 7 лет назад
Yes. Assuming the same paper and same environmental conditions? Yes. Except ALL, Every single 3rd party dye ink for the PRO-100 or any canon or epson dye ink print will suffer from 1/8 of 1/10 the longevity of OEM. So rather than 70-80 years you can get 7-8 years on the wall unprotected. NONE of my printed work has shown any discernible fading. Frame under glass and you will have Decades of fade free performance. But again, how could you possible play 1/8th of OEM costs and then expect to get similar performance??? Of course you won't.
@barrysharoff6537
@barrysharoff6537 7 лет назад
Ah, so the key word and reason for the fade by using even Precision Colors inks is "unprotected." That's the real lesson: "Frame under glass" and you don't have to worry. Thanks for the clarification, Jose.
@cheo1949
@cheo1949 7 лет назад
For example. Make two 13 x 19 and put one on the outside Bare taped to your front window and only on your wall in a glass frame and guess which one will fade quicker? We have to be more realistic with our expectations.
@Anima88
@Anima88 3 года назад
Sir...you saved me 300 Dollars. Thank you so much!
@cheo1949
@cheo1949 3 года назад
Glad I could help!
@rafael55
@rafael55 3 года назад
Good advice. Do you think that the epson ecotanks are any good? Some use 4 colors only another one uses 6 colors. I know that they are inexpensive to use, but with 4 colors will they print quality photos? I don't need more that 8x10 prints.
@cathydavis6515
@cathydavis6515 4 года назад
Thank you so much for all the good info. I was wondering if you could recommend a printer for me. I am a scrapbooker. I make photo albums of family memories and also do other album projects. It can be difficult to find the right type and enough 12” x 12” paper for my projects. Digital paper is becoming the way to go, so I thought I would invest in a printer so I can print the paper needed at home. After watching your videos I have learned a lot. I have been looking at the Epson P800. It may be too much of a machine for my needs?? Can you recommend a printer that will be a good match for me?? Thank you.
@cheo1949
@cheo1949 4 года назад
None of the photo prints we use can print on 12x12 unless you create a custom paper size. It is nt a standard Photo Size. A CANON Pro-10 or EPSON P600 or the new P700 will suit you perfectly.
@IraQNid
@IraQNid 2 года назад
I used to warn my customers about these same issues for home & wide format inkjet printers. It is a known design flaw with all inkjet printers. You waste money by using your inks to purge and clean their nozzles because they clog so easily if they aren't used often enough. There are alternatives for wide format and even large format printers from manufacturers of laser printers. Much higher print yields compared to inkjets, faster print times compared to inkjets, lower overall cost of ownership, no cleaning cycles that waste your toners, and they can be left unused for months or years without clogging as there is nothing to clog. Need to print white, metallic colors, foils, dye sublimation, holographic effects, clear coats, UV security toners, florescent CMYK colors, and more? Laser printers got you covered.
@Interactive-Tech
@Interactive-Tech 2 года назад
What would you recommend for something in the 12"-ish range? Or heck, what should I even look up to find more info on this?
@IraQNid
@IraQNid 2 года назад
@@Interactive-Tech Go with a Uninet iColor laser printer. Wide format laser printers yield excellent results. I believe that type of printer handles pages up to 11x17 or 13x19 inches. If you want to be able to switch toners on the fly to a unit that has 5 color toners (CMYKW) plus offers metallic looking toner, dye sublimation toner, clear coat protective toner (also used as a spot color), security toner (for making IDs, passes, tickets, etc), florescent toner then the iColor series handles it all in one machine. RU-vid has lots of videos covering these types of printers.
@DaveMovold
@DaveMovold 6 лет назад
Now you tell me !!...lol I agree....but I Love my Pro-1. It is rewarding printing and framing a ..say nice 13x19 image after a vacation, Memory's Baby ! :)
@cheo1949
@cheo1949 6 лет назад
Well I have to agree!
@Jay-if9dr
@Jay-if9dr 4 года назад
This is very informative, well done Jose. My problem is, I want to print nice work on canvases but the local printing firms around my area charge like $135.00 for a 20x30 stretched canvas, so how can I make money trying to sell it ?. I would only make like 20 dollars or thereabouts, for if costs got to high, no one would want to purchase them. Selling my images on canvas and to where I make some good money, is the hardest thing to work out. I see others who sell and make great money, how are they doing it? .
@cheo1949
@cheo1949 4 года назад
They print and stretch their own. You will need at least a 24" capacity pigment printer.
@jimmi8928
@jimmi8928 3 года назад
I think if you have a little more faith in yourself and go out there and find the customers who will pay for your prints you shall have no problems remember your not going to find customers quick and easy but there are customers who would buy your prints for me $$ then you think
@thewanderess
@thewanderess 4 года назад
Thank you Jose! You're awesome . It did hurt me ; the truth did. But I guess it's better than being frustrated and disappointed later. I'm not ready for a full commitment at this point in my life. I'd still like to feel the process though. Probably should intern/apprentice with a lab. Thanks for your video. :-)
@cheo1949
@cheo1949 4 года назад
It is a something you really need to think about before opening up your wallet.
@TheGregWallace
@TheGregWallace 5 лет назад
Keep up the good work JOSE!
@cheo1949
@cheo1949 5 лет назад
Thanks.
@DinhDover
@DinhDover 2 года назад
Great topic.
@itsjosee1468
@itsjosee1468 4 года назад
I sub to your channel years ago, and I finally picked up a printer... I guess it’s a “for better or for worse till death do us apart” thing from here 💀😅
@cheo1949
@cheo1949 4 года назад
Indeed it is! Good luck!
@danharris3319
@danharris3319 7 лет назад
Great advice Jose. Thanks for the Inkjet Plumber tip, I'm a dedicated Mac user and this is a huge find! Tips like these are the reason I watch and contribute to your channel. Thank you again. Oh, do you have any updates on the new PC yellow and black inks for the Pro-100? Will they be released before the end of the year? Have a good weekend Jose.
@cheo1949
@cheo1949 7 лет назад
Glad you found Inkjet Plumber useful! The upgraded inks for the Pro-100 will be available when the labs producing those two colors finalize the inks. I don't have anything else to tell you at this time.
@barrysharoff6537
@barrysharoff6537 7 лет назад
When I talked to Mike at Precision Colors a few weeks ago with this question he said that these new formulations would not be ready until next year; they are too busy perfecting inks for other printers. Yellow and black for the Pro-100 just not at the top of their list.
@danharris3319
@danharris3319 7 лет назад
Thanks for the info Barry. I wondered about just that. On the bright side, I guess this means I won't have to reprofile a bunch of papers for these new inks quite so soon.
@paulscottfilms
@paulscottfilms 4 года назад
Very good, hard-line reality, thanks
@cheo1949
@cheo1949 4 года назад
Thanks for listening
@sebastianprzybysiak7350
@sebastianprzybysiak7350 4 года назад
Thanks for your videos. How about using printer few times a year? For example one month of intensive printing and four month pause? Is it harmful for a printer? Is it possible to change ink to 3thrd party just for a cleaning time and use OEM’s again? Greetings from Poland.
@aboutphotography
@aboutphotography 4 года назад
Great video! Thanks
@cheo1949
@cheo1949 4 года назад
Thanks.
@cevisuals
@cevisuals 3 года назад
Well it seems Inkjet Plumber doesn't work on Big Sur and the developer is no longer maintaining it... Any other options out there that does the same thing? I haven't printed in over a year as I had stopped shooting but now that I'm fully vaccinated, I feel like I can go back out and start shooting street and documentary images again. I'm currently using an Epson 1400 with the Cone Color Inks and eventually plan on setting up my second 1400 with their Peizography b/w inks - any recommendations on how to get something like this utility going? My hope is to print more frequently but for now I'm easing into it.
@cheo1949
@cheo1949 3 года назад
Qimage one has a tool called Unclog Tool. It creates a custom purge sheet using your printer's specific and then you schedule it to print as you wish. Check my video description for a promo code link and you get 10% off plus they are offering another 10% off discount.
@Meagain921
@Meagain921 5 лет назад
Really excellent and helpful. Thank you.
@cheo1949
@cheo1949 5 лет назад
Thank you
@masreyalap
@masreyalap 5 лет назад
Thanks for the video, I have a question please: What is the ink quantity consumed in a photo compared to an ISO page occupying 5% of the sheet? Some people say a photo's ink quantity is equivalent to twenty ISO 5% page, is that true? Or does a photo consumes more than that? Thanks.
@cheo1949
@cheo1949 5 лет назад
I am afraid I don't know what an ISO page is.
@pedjasilic8998
@pedjasilic8998 Год назад
Great video thx!!
@siposi
@siposi 6 лет назад
Hi Jose, you mentioned two ink manufacturers in the US Who are they? For an Epson 3880 what ink you recommend beside OEM? Is Cone ink OK? Thanks for the good advice
@cheo1949
@cheo1949 6 лет назад
They do not sell to individuals. CONE has its inks made in the orient for them exclusively. They are probably the bests inks for EPSON Photo printers next to OEM! Image Specialists or IS and I believe STS ( I am not 100% of the name ) is the other one. But again, they only sell to retailers and not individuals. Rjettec sells OCP inks from Germany. CONE and PC are much better in the gloss and color matching department. Just my opinion.
@siposi
@siposi 6 лет назад
Thanks Jose. Is it anybody who sells good carts for 3880 empty or loaded?
@cheo1949
@cheo1949 6 лет назад
You mean refillable? Many resellers do. No one I know sells them prefilled.
@markrigg6623
@markrigg6623 5 лет назад
I havent found ive had to print as often as is stated here. Had a 3800 epson for years and now run an epson artisan 1430 and P 800. Printing once a month has caused no problems with any of these printers and theres been a few occasions where I havent printed for 2 months and still havent had clogging. Maybe its because they are located in a basement that is very cool all year round .? Could it be higher temperatures cause clogging when printers are left idle? I sold my old 3800 and tested it after 4 months being idle and it was fine.
@cheo1949
@cheo1949 5 лет назад
Environment is very important. If you have a slightly above average levels of humidity your printer will basically hardly ever clog. But again I stress that using the printer often will keep it healthier than not using it often.
@official6arz
@official6arz 4 года назад
JOSE... I NEED YOURE HELP BRO!! I finally opened this PRO 1000. During the setup I made it to installing the printer head. I installed it and an error code popped on saying unplug the power cord and contact the service center. Error code: B204.
@cheo1949
@cheo1949 4 года назад
Keep reinstalling it until it begins to do the ink recharge. If nothing works you need to call CANON and hope this is a new until with warranty.
@hanf71
@hanf71 4 года назад
Dear Jose, thanks for your great informative videos. I am considering setting up a printing business. This is primarily for professional artists, so will need to be making giclee prints with archival inks. Could you please give me any tips or point me in the right direction? Would be so grateful. Many thanks, keep up the good work Best wishes Sean
@cheo1949
@cheo1949 4 года назад
The term Giclee means nothing. It just applies a stigma to the print as if it is better than a regualr Print. Both are Ink jet!!!! It usually refers to printing on cotton canvas media. The term simply means Ejaculate or Spit which is what Ink jet printer do. You will need at least a 9, preferably a 12 color pigment ink printer that uses roll feature. You DO NOT EVER WANT to be loading individual sheets of canvas! It is a huge PIA! You need to choose the printer model that will provide you the capacity meaning max width you will be EVER printing on. In fact I would choose the next one up as you will never know when a client will need a large product.
@YK-wz4qx
@YK-wz4qx 7 лет назад
Hi Jose, I am thinking of upgrading from my Pro-100 to a Pro-10 and I have three pre-commitment questions: 1.All things being equal, do you think that prints from the Pro-10 will outlast those of the Pro-100 ( Precision Color inks in both cases)? 2.Would you consider the quality of black & white (or monochrome) prints from the Pro-10 significantly better than the ones from the Pro-100? 3. From your videos I feel that the cartridges of the Pro-10 are much easier to refill and maintain than those of the Pro-100. Is this correct? Thank you one more time for your time and excellent work!
@cheo1949
@cheo1949 7 лет назад
Yes Pigment always will outlast Dye regardless of source. Not really. Both produce excellent linearly neutral prints. PGI-72 carts are a dream come true for refillers. I don't know what CANON was thinking making it so easy!
@allenbuyck7957
@allenbuyck7957 7 лет назад
Jose, have you done a video on complete cleaning and maintenance. I have a Pro 100. Is it merely running the cleaning cycle or is there more like roller cleaning etc. ?
@cheo1949
@cheo1949 7 лет назад
All those functions are found in the Maintenance Tab of The PRO-100 driver. On the right side. As long as the printer is working and printing properly there is not need to do anything at this time. Before you print anything, if it has been more than 60 hours, the printer will run a cleaning cycle. That is normal operation.
@cheo1949
@cheo1949 7 лет назад
When you do not run a CANON PRO printer for 60 hours or more, it will perform a regular cleaning cycle. Nothing to do with Roller cleaning. Maintenance functions are located in the driver's Maintenance tab on the right side. They are self explanatory. ALso have already shown those on much earlier videos.
@allenbuyck7957
@allenbuyck7957 7 лет назад
thank you so much !!!!
@jimblackie5476
@jimblackie5476 7 лет назад
I can't find "Ink Jet Plumber" for the Mac. Do you have a link?
@cheo1949
@cheo1949 7 лет назад
github.com/jt70471/InkjetPlumber/releases Inkjet plumber and not Ink Jet Plumber and google finds it.
@jimblackie5476
@jimblackie5476 7 лет назад
Thanks so much, Jose! Love your videos and am learning more than I ever hoped.
@cheo1949
@cheo1949 7 лет назад
I am so glad! Thanks Jim!
@theronsnell396
@theronsnell396 3 года назад
Looking for advice: currently use a Canon PRo9000 and looking to upgrade. I like Canon. What would suggest as a next step up? Of curse, most sales peoples ay the 1000; I print photos quite a bit, but do not belong to a galley yet. Help.
@cheo1949
@cheo1949 3 года назад
PRO-300 is excellent I hear as well as the new PRO200.
@NeriReactions
@NeriReactions 2 года назад
Hey sir, I have a question. When you mean “Cleaning cycles” what do you mean exactly?, it’s like you need to buy new ink to change it or what?. Sorry I’m amateur and I’m a little bit confused
@cheo1949
@cheo1949 2 года назад
It's a built in internal process the printer performs. If Nozzle check shows nozzles are blocked due to not using often you run the "CLEANING CYCLE" form the driver Maintenance Tab to clear them.
@NeriReactions
@NeriReactions 2 года назад
@@cheo1949 thank you sir
@csxlab
@csxlab 4 года назад
"You just wanna have fun" .... I am going to .. loving your videos, I am really going to invest in one of these PRO1000 .... Thank you for your time and views :D
@cheo1949
@cheo1949 4 года назад
Get ready for the trip of your life.
@csxlab
@csxlab 4 года назад
@@cheo1949 Haha I will. last year I started the investment .. first I bought the monitor Eizo CG2730 so I get the colour calibration done right. Now, yesterday I saw the new imagePROGRAF PRO-2100 and got the bug, because then I could print my anamorphic prints. Any thoughts on it?
@cheo1949
@cheo1949 4 года назад
@@csxlab it's supposed to be better than the 2000 but I don't have much information about it so far. Besides there is no way I could ever consider adding to the "Army" at this time.
@sun14565
@sun14565 5 лет назад
After watching half of your video, I decided not to buy a printer :)
@cheo1949
@cheo1949 5 лет назад
GOOD! ALWAYS be ready for Full Commitment and Not half assed one.
@7alken
@7alken 5 лет назад
and I decided to rationally scale down, drastically ... having focus on practical features more
@LennyCooke636
@LennyCooke636 4 года назад
I bought myself a dye-sub. I can leave the printer sitting on the shelf collecting dust for an enormous amount of time. Then spark it up and I get a good print. I had an Epson R2400 that dyed on me after 8 months. The printer was a huge PITA. The prints were nice but the expense of the inks and the constant cleaning drove me nuts.
@livingstone6275
@livingstone6275 6 лет назад
thanks for the great advice
@cheo1949
@cheo1949 6 лет назад
Thank you!
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