I’m a dealer and I know what I got my self into. I don’t expect anything I just like to entertain the players. I enjoy it and hey if I’m dropping money and they want to tip or bet for me I’m grateful. The players at the end of the day are my employers I’m grateful for anything they decide to give me.
That's a great attitude, I wish more people have that mentality in the service industry. Those are usually the most professional and don't go tip hunting.
Great attitudes like yours are what's really persuading players when they try and decide on whether to tip a dealer..so carry on being the humble and modest person you are because the good vibes can be infectious and help us players to not overthink our gameplay but rather help us actually relax and enjoy the grind sessions. Best believe when Im a happy player, Im a happy tipper as well and wouldn't hesitate to reciprocate the postive energy back to the dealer in tips so that way everyone leaves the casino with smiles.
@han kim I tell all my dealers that expectation only leads to disapointment.If I ever see a dealer hustling a customer they will be sent home and possibly fired. Tipping is 100% the customers decision. Also if you are going to tip a dealer make a bet for them. That way they feel like they are a part of the game and the house pays them also. Odds also get payed on bets so your $5 tip bet could become $100 if you hit an odds bet.
After over 25 years in gaming, I never felt like I deserved a tip just because I came to work. I try to provide " good customer service" and let the tips take care of itself. Just like in other industries, some days you are underpaid, sometimes overpaid, and sometimes paid just right. Thanks for another great video.
Honestly I believe in customer service also .... But in 18 years of dealing, I have been lucky to always work in casinos where we keep on our own tips which promotes better customer service, ATLEAST if you want to make money
My grandfather went to MIT and was a card counter. He taught me how to play the game when I was a kid. He said always tip the dealer when you get up to leave the table after you've had a streak of wins. So that's what I do.
When you lose, it isn't the dealer's fault, it's the way the cards come out. I use the approach like when I'm in a restaurant. As long as the the waiter gives me good service, it isn't the waiter's fault if the CHEF sends out a bad meal.
Also keep in mind, the dealers can regulate how much you win. How? By slowing the game way down when you're winning. It's called stall moves, until the cleaner gets there.
@@BLOWNDADDY1 Seriously? All these conspiracies. Truth is, customer service is important, not just for tips, but for representing the house. They want you to enjoy your time at their table and they want you to win. But it is an act, dealers don't give a rats ass about you. They have their own lives. Tip the good pleasant dealers who do their job professionally, and speak to the Floor when a dealer is rude. Good dealers don't appreciate the bad dealers as tokes are pooled.
@@BLOWNDADDY1 I was in table games for over 20 years, including many years dealing. Trust me, a dealer's life is easier when you guys are winning. Some players are jerks, some dealers are jerks.
Food critic analogy, the critic doesn't care how good or bad the service was, but how much of his earnings is he willing to give for going to his job, you're not there to have a nice time, you're there to work.
I think the whole AP community would be better off advocating for higher wages for dealers. I, as a dealer, hate more than anything that anyone other than my employer is paying for my salary.
No Arguments that casinos should pay more, but tips are also a big part of many cultures - I tip practically everyone I have dealings with if the service is good and it's reasonable to tip... Granted I grew up working in restaurants, and love the tipping system, so I could be biased.
And the casinos would respond, like in Europe, creating a cover charge to enter the casino. Plus, if you are not a tipper, the dealer might take more of an interest in letting the casino know just what you are doing...
I disagree. There are dealers at a casino that do not know other games and only blackjack. I want my wage to be higher because I know craps and roulette and I'm sharing my tips with someone who ONLY knows blackjack and will never learn how to deal the biggest games in the casino. I also don't want people like that to learn those games because they will slow down play. Tips need to be here to stay because there are some very generous players out there...but they don't tip dealer losers....they tip your performance.
Once playing a table on third base I was the only player tipping, after awhile I was catching a glimpse of his hole card and it was very subtle but very very effective....did not last long but long enough. lol.
I’m a dealer and when it comes to a card counter that is not tipping, I make sure my boss hears my calls to make sure you get caught quick., but when you tip and you’re counting you know what, I didn’t know you were counting😂
@@Wolfking363 it's mostly that if you don't tip a dealer, the dealer makes just as much money if you weren't there at all. There's a saying that's very common at casinos, "I win, you win". If you win and you're card counting but not tipping, your taking advantage of the system and leaving other people behind. No dealer wants to deal with that or for that. So if you want to win big, you better bring the person giving you the opportunity along with you.
@@emceehawaii7542 I agree until u said “u better”, not that I’m against tipping I often get told I tip more than most who win more than me. But at the end of the day the cards that come out are the cards that come out, some of my favorite dealers have both won me a lot of money and a sometimes lost me alot
@@Wolfking363 absolutely, i don't know a single dealer that wants people to tip when they're losing, but if you are winning big and giving your dealer nothing, then your dealer now wants you to lose. For me personally, if anyone tips more than 5$ for the entirety of the time they're there, those people are on my permanent nice list. A lot of people tip nothing, do dealers want nothing to do with them.
If I'm playing one on one with a dealer I'll throw them a chip every now and then if I'm on a decent run. If I go on a heater and say turn $1000 into $15,000 I'm definitely going to throw down a good tip when I get up and walk. If the dealer is smokin hot, all bets are out the window LOL.
I tip my dealer small amounts on occasion when playing in Vegas because the dealers there are often quite helpful and kind to less experienced players and tourists like myself. They often offer advice too and make the experience fun with their personalities. For me personally, that’s def worth tipping them a little. Especially if I’m winning and up atm
I just became a dealer, and that scenario you gave where the player wins 20k and tips $100, I would be happy with that. I'm used to playing live poker though so maybe that skews my thinking. In my head, I'm doing the same job, whether someone is betting 1k a hand or $10 a hand. Tips are appreciated, because like you said we only make $9.25 an hour from the casino, but I'm not expecting a player to give me 10% of there profits. If they want to however, Im all for it lol.
Ur lazy lol if u can sit there n say ur OK with 100 after getting someone 20k! Then u sir...have just accepted life to be shitty. If people just knew how to tip! This world would be better off. They ate coming to the casino...odds to the house...money that they...are...gambling. we work...for...tips. therefor if someone wins 20k...that mfer better tip atleast....atleast...1k
As a dealer, we're human too. Majority of our income is from the players themselves, and I personally don't like taking money I prefer to pay. We don't get paid commission, we're basically on waitress pay but at a disadvantage, we take with a chance to give.
Great Video I have been a Dealer for over 20 year’s So my situation is Different I try to tip more to the Dealers whom I know and come to play with me and return the favor When I buy into a session I get a stack of lower chips I bet for the dealer but on top of my bet and keep there profit or loss separately then release at the end of there deal. I play mostly around my hometown and they are always Happy to see me When I play out of town My tipping is different and pay at the end of there deal when the incoming dealers can see
As a dealer and a former paying member of blackjack apprentice... By the way I love your product and service Colin you do a great job. The only reason why I'm no longer a member is at 60 I just don't have the mental capital to Work 36 hours a week dealing and then practice and concentrate on playing as an AP. I still like to play and utilize Everything I learned from BJA when I do play. Back to the subject of tipping... Remember yes tipping is important and you can do it within your budget I do really like Colin's Technique of betting on top of your bat and letting it ride until it loses. Also remember when at a table you're not the only player there unless you are playing head up. That said that dealer really needs to add $25 to $30 Is per hour to the tick pool or make that for themselves. That said just keep a casual side mental note on how much the dealer is being tipped in total during their 30 minute rotation on your table. If you don't see a minimum of $15 Being tipped in a 30 min dealer rotation then kick something in and help out. And remember especially when there are tip pools just because some dealers have attitudes and no level of tipping is enough there are many dealers that not only "get it" bit also provide great service with good energy. Just as you'd like the dealer to be an asset to the community you as an asset professional need to be an asset for the community also. Just contribute something... And it doesn't have to be relative to your bet size or amount of winnings. It just needs to contribute to that dealer actually making a living that they can support their family with. The only time I feel the amount matters is if playing aside that someone makis a very large hit. Last night for instance at my table on a blackjack side bet a player won a $127k. The player is a regular and always plays 2 or 3 hands of $100 to $300. The player tipped us $1000 on his sidebet bonus winnings. I'll make no comment about that whether that is enough or adequate. Just record saying that the player is a regular and doesn't tip that off and on a regular basis but it's definitely Is requiring a lot of effort from the dealer. I see players that don't tip dealers always Is tipping the cocktail waitresses. And the food servers at the restaurants in the casino. So the argument about The dealer's wages going up so they're not so heavily reliant on tips ... kind of doesn't fly as it is a service industry just like waitstaff, bartenders, uber drivers. Be creative there are many ways to Creatively and appropriately take care of your dealers Is without overburdenings your advantage play business. Thanks for listening just one player/dealers opinion
I ended up getting three splits on 8s on a $500 bet, got only one fairly good card after dd on two of them. But the count was very high at an almost empty shoe, and the dealer was showing a 6. After putting down thousands of dollars on one hand the dealer turned over a 5. Then another 5. Then a 6. I almost died, like actually was tachycardic. Ran to the parking garage with chips still in hand when I realized I had failed to tip the dealer. Now this is what lesson I learned, when I went back to the tables rather than just driving home, the dealer was still smiling from the hands we had 15 minutes earlier, she laughed and thanked me for the $100 tip, and then winked and said that I didn't need to come back to tip. It was good enough to just see the fun we had. Having said that, she continued to cut em deep in the shoe whenever I came back, and never caused any heat as far as my game ability. I'd say the tips are warranted, unless you are rude to the dealer, it's always worth a good tip.
My guess is she said you didn't need to come back to tip her in the same manner women offer to pay on a date. They say it to sound good but don't mean it.
I was at the D in Vegas Down like $300 playing $10 min. Some charismatic high roller pulled up to the table with like 70k in chips all boozy and happy. First hand hits BJ on 2500 lol. Luck continued and he prob tipped the dealer over a grand within 45 mins. He also started handing the rest of the table $25 dollar chips every time he won. Absolute legend this guy. Well…until the pit boss says “hey you can’t give other players money like that” he immediately flips a shit and colors up. Thankfully he literally got me out of my swing and while cashing out he slips me another $100 lol. TL:DR I’ve seen people basically get backed off even after tipping HEAVY. So the heat reason doesn’t always stand up.
This pit boss should be terminated. Even if this guy plays basic strategy (which is highly unlikely) he is still losing something like $15-$20 per hand, If he is playing just norma; average level, you can at least double that number. Doing anything that would displease him is just about as stupid as it gets. Here is what I think is going on. The idiot pit boss is sweating the lsss. He knows the big player will probably keep drinking and gambling until he loses most or all of it back and possibly much more. However, if he is handing $25 chips to players and tipping more, that money is probably never going to go back to the casino. The player could quite even and the casino could be down several grand. If you are a bad pit boss who does not understand customer service, you might actually do what this buffoon did.
I do like the idea of trying to work with the dealer to improve playing conditions to increase EV so you can possibly tip them and that way everyone wins. I do see in the comment section tho that some people are getting offended if you don’t tip. I think it’s important to remember this is only an issue because the casinos won’t be a fair wage. So instead of arguing with each other maybe we can just all be mad at casinos haha
Sounds more offensive you are ok tossing a dollar while expecting the dealer to cheat..I mean manipulate the game in your favor to make more money. Sounds more like you are just taking advantage of those dealers for as little as possible even though they risk being fired and blacklisted from all casinos.
It only becomes an issue when it comes to blame. I never expect to be tipped, unless I'm there to entertain, which I typically do. I like to make it fun because that's what I can control. When players come in and blame blame blame when the cards are bad and sit there and whine because they play stupid and can't win but nothing gets put into the tip box when they win, then it becomes personal. When the cards are good, it's ALWAYS the cut or some "fantastic" play you think you just did, but when the cards are bad, it's the shuffle or the ridiculous accusation that we "touch" the cards. lol It's the price of entertainment. If you are enjoying yourself, show it with money. Everyone understands money. If the dealer is a jerk, off course don't tip them. I wouldn't either. The point is, tipping doesn't guarantee anything, except a good time and maybe a few common mistakes from happening. Everyone has a price. How many 0's is up to the individual person. Not every dealer goes for their own so a lot us need a lot more 0's. With that being said, if you're gonna try this venture, and learn to count, better do it quick, better tip your dealers, because they will turn on you quickly and most casinos have already started switching to continuous shufflers! Can't count those! lol
That would require being mad at this capitalist system that employs us. We all know most people are willing to support a system they are at a high disadvantage of, as long as it “promises” a chance at the top one day
Some dealers are counting along with you and know what is happening. Keep them on your side. I do remember very early on when I made a play that was not "By the book" and the dealer looked at me and gave the slightest nod. He knew the count and knew my play.
@@noskpain2792 A dealer with any amount of time employed knows basic strategy. Hell, most players do, too. If you regularly play, or are a dealer, you know the “correct play”.
Say you worked at an ice cream shop, and a guy comes in every day and tips you $20 and asks you for an extra scoop. Would you give it to him? I would, and casino employees work the same way. The dealers are also working for tips. You don't have to tip if you don't want to but just so you know if you don't then the casino employees will never do anything to help you, they will only try to get you out of there quicker. You want to make the dealer, pit boss, and anyone elses job as easy and as fun as you possibly can. You want them to actually LIKE you. It's a lot harder to kick someone out or report someone that you actually like that makes your job better. Conversely, it is very easy to find reasons to kick someone out you don't like, and some people might even go as far as to personally target you. In almost every casino it is NOT the dealer or pit boss's responsibility to catch card counters. Surveillance is responsible for that. If a pit boss does not catch you, in almost every casino nothing will happen to them because it's not their job. A dealer will never have any reason to ever report you unless they take their job way too seriously or you just tell them when you sit down you're counting cards. Casino employees are just people trying to get by like you. The real enemy is their bosses, who they probably hate too.
If you are a recreational player who are having fun with disposal cash budget, then definitely tip would be the right thing to do. If you are professional who needs to win to pay bills, then only tip when you can afford to and don't ever feel bad about it. Dealer and professional players both made the decision to take on a very hard career, so don't expect anything from other people for your own personal choices.
My father was a frugal man and only played the minimum bet at the table. It would irritate him slightly when I tipped the dealer. He said to me "do they tip you when you are losing?". All I know is that when the energy is good at the table I tend to do better overall. Also, I am there to have a good time and if the dealer is friendly, and doing their best to be courteous, part of the "good time" for me is showing my appreciation.
I will tip sometimes. Mainly to make me not look like AP. If I have reason to believe the dealer knows I am counting, and not bringing heat my way I will tip a bit more as a thank you for not telling.
If you’re winning and being polite and tipping here and there, a smart dealer says nothing and keeps doing her job, which is keeping the pace moving and keeping the table happy.
You have no idea that the dealer is deciding not to rat you out. It is much more likely that the dealer is simply unaware that you are counting cards than the dealer having knowledge of your card counting and keeping it a secret.
Thanks for taking on a bold topic! This is a hard one because people get really emotionally invested in this! For me, I’ll tip if the dealer can give me more of an advantage in the game. If she/he is willing to cut the shoe thinner for better deck penetration, showing the burn card or is just an overall friendly dealer, I’m more than willing to tip because it’s to my advantage. Otherwise I get dealers that are burnt out, angry at the world and no matter how much you give them, they’re not going to be appreciative so what’s the point? Thanks Collin for continuing to share your knowledge!
So you are willing to tip andealer that is willing to risk their job so you can make more money? lol That's so rich of you. I agree with previous comments. If you're counting, and I know you are but I'm making money too, then it could be an oversight. Allowing you to see burn card or cut too thin, not gonna happen with me. Doesn't matter how you are willing to tip because, if I get fired in the process, your tips mean nothing. 23yrs in the business, not gonna lose my job on a ridiculous situation like that but I'm sure there are plenty of dealers that won't mind looking for another dealing gig.
@@MysteryGambit Most casinos and dealers are not as smart as you, so if they choose to give me the advantage that’s great. If not, I’ll find another one that will. There are plenty of dealers out there and plenty of AP’s that know how to exploit weaknesses.
Playing the tip I have found it’s a good way to judge the dealer’s mood and demeanor. Ask the dealer, “take it or play it?” If they take it, they’re not you’re friend. They’re just there to take money off the table. If they play it, they become invested in your success. It creates a “bond” that can help you. No matter what I’m doing it’s always thr first thing I say to a dealer, “I make money, you make money” Just my thoughts.
As a Dealer, let me point out something. If you go to a Pool joint(dealers share) they are always frustrated and lack customer service. So don’t tip if they don’t give a pleasant time. In a keep your own, like mine, if the dealer is pleasant and the cards are good, a nickel or two here and there goes a long way. But this is something I do. If I have a player I know is card counting, and they don’t tip once, I will cut the larger portions of the deck and slow down my speed if there is a streak. Also informing the floor and incoming dealer if there is an advantage player. We have codes.
@@HarlequinGrim_Mania absolutely, card counting isn't illegal so they won't get in trouble if they don't report it, it's kinda just a mutual agreement. If a card counter is at the table and is tipping, the dealer is going to want that card counter to win more, so they'll deal faster and do better for the counter to help them win more. After all, a phrase very common in casinos "I win, you win."
Tip on top of your bet is called “piggybacking”. Some casinos don’t allow it so be “discreet” when communicating to the dealer that you’re betting for them. Also if you end up getting on a run when piggybacking the casino will count the tips that won as your win (if you’re playing rated).
This depends on the casino you play at and the supervisor monitoring your play. If you place the dealer bet on the edge of the box, clearly indicating it's a bet for the dealer then the supervisor should ensure you're comped correctly
Interesting.... Some casinos are managed by morons. This practice harms nobody. In the long run, the casino actually makes MORE money because the get more action.
as a X dealer in Las Vegas and still living in Las Vegas. I would definitely say if you were going to tip the dealer bet for them and especially the way Collin was showing it to put the bet on top of his original bet! One day I was a little confused as a lady started betting for me but actually on top of her bet. I quickly realized what she was doing and yes I was happy with that! As far as card counting goes remember the first line of defense in the casino is the dealer don’t piss them off!
Then you should probably look for different employment. I'm sorry, but it is not my responsibility as a customer to make up for your employers lack of fair wages. I didn't refer you to the casino promising they'd pay you decently.
@@CGoody5642 Yet you as a citizen in whatever country that allows tipped wages should be demanding that this can't happen and that nobody should rely on generosity to eat.
@@mikebonannowashere dealers CAN make good money from tips. That has nothing to with anything. I'm not obligated to tip you, and your earnings should not be reliant on the assumption that getting tipped is a certainty. I tip food service employees for above average or excellent experiences; I don't tip just because you're a waiter who brought me food, nor should I. Tips are for gratitude that is earned.
At the time of writing this, I’ve only been to an actual casino once in my life. It was well into the night, until around 2-3 in the morning. The guy next to me would tip a couple bucks any time he hit a blackjack, and at the end of the night, after hitting two blackjacks in a row myself and coming out well ahead of where I started, I tipped the dealer 25 bucks. I thought that was a good use of my money
I tend to tip _a little bit_ for cover. During my playing times I've seen some heat I got dissipate quite a bit after tossing a few singles in front of bets every once in a while (since AV players don't tip!), and sometimes let the dealer keep the singles when coloring up (I usually play DD with a 25-200$ spread). With most Vegas playing conditions this translates to an EV of ~40-50$ per hour, and if I give back maybe 3-5$ in tips, I can live with it AND avoid drawing unwanted attention (which would force me to change casinos earlier, and there's not THAT many really good DD games around). Besides, most dealers don't really make all THAT much, and the gesture of a few singles is genuinely appreciated by most of them, according to my observations.
Agree with the methodologies on tipping in this video. Interesting take on putting the tip on top of bet instead of above. This way it only costs about $2.50 for a $5 tip "effort". Thanks I learned something. This would be a good way to tip more often yet not spend more. It just like those $5 free bet coupons you get from the casinos, where everyone thinks they're worth $5, but they are really worth less than $2.50. But I feel an obligation to tip something to the dealer since I've worked in the service industry myself and had to partly rely on tip income. It's the same as tipping a waiter/waitress, barber, bellhop, or taxi driver. As a part time hobbyist player, I've probably tipped away half my EV, and spent the other half on gas getting to the casino haha....
I worked on cruise ships as a casino dealer. Official my salary was $15 a day... I'm serious. Fortunately there were generous players which tipped well. I think I speak for most dealers when I say.. Give us an opportunity to earn our tip. Play a small side bet for the dealer ($1 is absolutely fine) If you as the player win, the dealer wins too. Even if you lose, the thought is appreciated and the supervisor will make sure you get comped well with free drinks and service.
I’ve always liked places that keep their tips. I think if I was a dealer, getting a tip bet would just make me a lot happier during the day. I don’t even play live poker because of how much the table talk makes me want to put a fork in my eye so I imagine the dealers get pretty tired of the same comments over and over, mostly negative. Having worked jobs for tips. It does feel nice to get good tips
The simple answer is to tip if they don’t share their tips and to not tip if they do. There’s a casino near me that pools all the tips in the whole house (and it’s a huge casino) so there’s literally no incentive for any particular employee to treat anyone that well, or to care what you think at all.
As a former dealer you should always tip. If your an AP and you don’t tip dealers can hurt you. I didn’t do this personally but I’ve heard of other dealers purposely burning a card or trying other methods to hurt you. You don’t have to tip a lot and if the dealer is rude don’t but dealers live on tips and make under minimum wage. Tip a little always tip it will help you. If you can’t afford to tip you shouldn’t play.
I was always pretty competitive dealing especially if they thought I’d stand there and deal for free. I would vary my shuffle or slug the discard heavy where there was a section rich in faces. I’d do whatever to ensure you’d lose if you were a flea. I know dealers that have dumped shoes, ask to be tapped out to burn 2 cards, mis deal to kill a hand on a high count etc. You’d be better off to just tip and stay in the dealers good graces. Just like if you’re a known non tipper in a restaurant plan on having spit in your food.
Remember, the dealers are NOT the casino! It's like going to a restaurant and being really cheap to the wait person. They are NOT the restaurant either, but are struggling to pay their bills. If I won a thousand dollars I feel like I should give them decent tips. I think asking the dealer to move faster is a great idea. Yeah, tipping at the end of the round is also a good idea.
I’m not an AP, but a am quite a fan of playing blackjack & a enjoyed of the game for 30+ years. I follow basic strategy and having a outgoing, energetic personable dealer really adds to the gaming experience (winning or losing). That’s one of the added bonus with playing blackjack is the human element. If I approach a table & if the dealer isn’t personable I’ll not sit down & keep moving.
Yes, a player should always remember that if you have an unfriendly dealer or another customer who is acting like a jerk, just get up and move to another table or another casino.
When I was 30 years younger and looked damn great, I knew basic strategy perfectly. I didn't start counting cos I couldn't keep up, but this is an amazing thing I learned cos it happened over and over. The dealer liked me and even if it was the wrong basic strategy, the dealer would
I play for entertainment ($5/$10/$15 minimum tables) but try to play as well as I can and use the count to adjust my bets. I only tip if I am winning and then just by placing small dealer bets ($1/$2). I’m not a professional gambler, but I do prefer to win. I also prefer to have a good time with the other players and the dealer. If I’m not winning I simply don’t tip. If the dealer is unfriendly I don’t tip. If other players are obnoxious I move tables. I expect my EV is about $10 or less per hour under these circumstances. I’m happy with that.
As a dealer I will tell you .If you are tipping I am doing all I can to keep you winning or help you to win . I can very my shuffle to change the cards or keep it the same. If a dealer can not shuffle . There is nothing we can do. But if you are not tipping . I really don't care what happens to you. Best way to tip is to put up a bet for your dealer .This bet is put in front of your bet . This lets us play with you so if you win we win. The whole thing here is I give , You give and don't gamble with money you can't afford to lose . Have fun and everybody is happy . But please always tip your dealer as we do only get a minimum wage.Tipping at the end is not the way to go. This is my opinion as a dealer.
@@smokingjoe9864 well most casinos pay less than minum wage (because tipping is allowed) and I find it staggering to hear that something that takes genuine effort, skill, charisma, and dexterity to be worth so little to you. Always tip your dealer
I always liked when players played tips on top of the bets for me. But i will say certain players at the casinos I used to deal at did this knowing that their intention was to take the bet back on purpose just to mess with us. There was about 5-6 players that did this and then tease us that we only make $5.44 hr at the casino. I will never understand people.
What sh*t hole is only paying $5 an hour? And when we had a POS do that we had permission and support from our supervisors to knock the bet off of theirs and push it back.
@@ftniceberg874 hard rock in sioux city IA. Most casinos in the midwest pay around 5-6hr. I cant say for sure about others around the united states but around her that is standard.
@@papadartman if your wages + tips is less then an average of 7.25 an hour your employer is to pay you more because you must make atleast the federal minimun wage after tips if your employer refuses and can not provide proof of how much tips you make, they can be sued for it and a department of labor will implace a wage recovery method for all employees for some time also in most states im not sure about Iowa but a tip is not considered a wage if its cash handed directly to the employee and only considered a wage if it is processed through the employer, for example on a receipt or check (which why i always tip waiters in cash only)
Wait...so these jacka**es would imply that the top chip was for you the dealer...but then if they won the hand, they would just take the whole earnings? Could they still do that if they explicitly say "This chip is for you" and then place it on their chip stack? I would expect the pit boss to kick out someone like that.
I usually put in a dealer's bet when I'm on a streak. Great videos!! I'm don't play BJ, just baccarat. Wish there was informative videos out there for BAC.
It all depends on the vibe I get off the dealer if they’re giving negative vibes or are being passive aggressive I won’t tip but a big thing for me is if the dealer has a smile cuz it shows he’s enjoying what he’s doing if he being friendly and enthusiastic it makes my experience way better and I feel they deserve a tip to say hey thanks for making my experience better
Well I should go watched the full vid before commenting but u got the right idea and u can even have a little more fun with it and ask them if they want the bet or press it that could build some fun. You don't have to tell the dealer that's his bet u can toss checks in when ever want.
Dude, I don’t gamble but yes I’ve been to Vegas a few times and REALLY enjoyed playing a few hours of blackjack. Still, also REALLY enjoy your channel on multiple levels. GREAT JOB!
Thank you so much, Colin, for sharing a video on this incredible topic. Considering this knowledge is usually saved for a paid video, we're are truly honored that you would give us your insight and thoughts, for FREE nonetheless, about this. Again, thank you, oh mighty wise one. We are not worthy.
Everyone is different and so are success levels in this game. I feel like tipping is a subset of “not playing with scared money.” Blackjack is not my way of life. For the dealer, blackjack is a way of life. I give a little back for each blackjack in the form of a bet for the dealer. They’re usually gamblers at heart too, and it gets all the karma pulling in one direction. This is the policy that works best for me on multiple levels.
lots of good info in here, but as a 12 year experienced croupier, "rooting" for a player doesn't guarantee anything. Except making me deal faster, nothing else is guaranteed.
It's called a TIP for a reason. Played poker for years (some of it full time), between the rake and tipping...takes a lot less than you think to tip your way into break even. I always liked tipping the dealers on the way out based upon session and their production. Some dealers' attitudes can make play miserable. Often wouldn't tip at all if on a down swing. CAPITAL PRESERVATION. Bankroll is your lifeblood, treat it so.
I'm a poker dealer I go in with a good attitude everyday I deal quickly and I make few mistakes. Although I hate the Tipping business it is my livelihood. I like my job I don't want another job. I don't expect a tip from the players every hand. Sometimes all they when is the blinds $1 and $3. I don't even expect a tip there but the rule of thumb is if you're in a pot multi-way at least throw a dollar. Poker dealers are going to go at their speed that they are comfortable with without making mistakes but poker dealers are also usually poker players so they understand that if you're trying to make money you want to see more hands and the quicker the dealer is the more money you make. I go at a pretty good speed but if people start throwing in $5 chips consistently I take it up a notch but even my average speed is still faster than most of the dealers that I work with. But I'm pumping out 18 to 20 hands every 30 minutes 8 handed for a reason and that is to make money and I do that every night 6 days a week if you have slow dealer who makes a lot of mistakes don't tip them but if you are professional fast call the action right take care of your dealers
I gamble for a living on machines, but I do get taxable jackpots. I tip ONLY if it adds some kind of value to my bankroll. If I have a big edge and I am playing in the same place a lot, I will tip because I need to avoid complaints that might alert management to how well I am doing. Casinos print money. The ones that go bankrupt are usually being skimmed or grossly mismanaged. This idea that I should feel guilty because the EMPLOYER is underpaying their staff is gross. The universe taught me a hard lesson, and it has taught me that lesson many, many times. The universe taught me that I am owed NOTHING. Well, guess what, as a corollary, I own the universe noting and I do not owe anyone anything either unless I have some kind of personal relationship with them where mutual benefit is taking place. The video makes an excellent point. You cannot tip enough to really be appreciated. Dealers see you win 50-100 units and think they should be getting a big score, but they don't have any plans to help you out when you lose 50-100 units. They honestly don't realize that you are not really winning what they are seeing. If you have some kind of monster play, such as a great hole card play, tipping more might make sense. Even if you really think it is your duty to tip, you really need to keep it under 5% of your expectation. If you understand how to calculate your hourly expectation, you probably see that this means your tips are not very big. One thing is far from clear.... Does tipping extend the life of a blackjack play? My guess is that it will not.
It seems a lot of dealers/former dealers in here have it backwards: You're supposed to provide good service, and THEN you get rewarded with a tip. You aren't supposed to be tipped in the hopes that we get good service later, or worse, not tip first and run the risk of getting deliberately bad service. It's not as if you took this job without knowing what your salary would be, right? So, you work for your tips, you look the other way when I count cards, and I look the other way when you don't report your tips to the IRS.
What are you on about, all of our tips are taxed just like everyone else’s. And you think I’m gonna look the other way and risk my job because you might report “me to irs”
@@tristinfleurimond1577 1) I never said I would report you (or anyone else) to the IRS. I said that you don't report your tips to the IRS. 2) (Almost) No one gets taxed on their tips because they don't report it as income, even though they're supposed to. That is against the law, but the government doesn't have the power to go after every waitress and babysitter in America. So you get away with it.
I throw a tip if I leave the table or if the dealer changes. The amount I tip is based on how much I liked them. I even found a few dealers that would "mess up" in my favor, like I would have 18 and they get to 19 and they call it a push..... I don't correct them when that happens, and I usually tip more often but usually this is not repeated, it may have just been an accident. I mostly play at a casino where they are trained very poorly.
I’m young, I played my first blackjack table and turned 100 to 310 but the dealer was being rude shaking her head when I hit on a 14 and was rude to my friend who doesn’t know how to play so after I doubled on a 11 and won the next round I left and didn’t tip
I’ve seen a dealer who had an AP that didn’t tip. Was hitting on the waitress, accidentally asked for a hit on 20. Usually a dealer asks “are you sure”, nope! gave him as fast as possible and he lost the hand. $1,000 hand.
My only observation is on the method of placing the tip on your bet as opposed to the tip out front. Using your $5 example, you win and toss them the $5 won, keeping your $5 to carry forward to the next tip. The dealer will see this as you keeping half their tip. Out front they would have received $10. To American dealers this appears to be you are being cheap. They won’t view the $5 as good, they’ll view it as you keeping half. Just my observation and opinion.
That's what I was thinking. Based on the traditional way of putting the tip out front, Colin's way makes it look like you're keeping half of their tip.
Larry Hampton I’m a former dealer and I would say most people put the tip out front for “dealer in the game.” The positive with Colin’s way is say there is a true +6 and you then go on to win multiple hands the dealer could win $20 or more instead of just $10 ($5+$5) one time.
@@adamk4733 wrong because all he has to do is instead of giving the dealer the first WIN he moves it out front. If he wins a second time the dealer will get 10 bucks and colin will receive another 5 to put out front for the dealer to try to win again. so in his way if he wins 5 straight hands the dealer gas made 25 my way the dealer gets 40 win 7 in a row your way dealer makes 35 my way 60 all off the same nickel . the only way the dealer loses is if the second hand is lost.
In my mind, you're forgiven. Casinos are a lot to get used to; it's hard to get everything right the first time. I wish I had just tried to roll the craps dice. We'll get 'em next time!
I tip my waitress,barista,babysitter, valet parking, mostly anyone who provides a service. When gambling the dealer is providing a service. Gambling is a Choice and I Choose to tip my dealers. When I win they win. I have worked in the business and have always thought of it as a gratuity and have been grateful for any tip no matter how large or small. I have never based my dealer time with a player on the last dealers action. Your analogy is flawed, some of us are pretty decent people who have regular lives and don’t expect to be tipped, it’s just the extra benefit of the day.
I played at several places in Reno lately. Place your small tip for the dealer right in front of your chips towards the dealer and say for you. After a couple times you don't need to say for you. Now they would like you to win so they get the tip.
When it comes to restaurants, I tip because I want to go back. In a situation where an AP could be kicked out of a casino. It seems less a reason imo. I also think the two people who win most in the system of tipping are the employer and non tippers. Non tippers get the cheapest price for service. And employers get to underpay their employees even though it's a billion dollar business. The people who feel strongly about tipping and helping lose the most money. Which makes it a bad system.
I dealt at casinoes for a year. I can say we provide entertainment. Some dealers and tables are just going to be fun. If you are having fun tip but if not why. Conversation is where dealers earn tips, especially from winners, obviously while still dealing well.
I;m an experienced dealer, and I'll tell everyone now, if you're not tipping , I'll do everything I can to make it difficult for you. Deal slow, burn a card at every chance, cut the cards as close to the middle of the shoe as possible, not deal another hand, when another dealer taps in to take over. But if you are tipping, I will do everything I can to help you be as successful as possible including not alerting anyone to the fact that I know you're counting cards
I tip every time I play, as I play. I'll get a stack of whites to start, and throw dollar bets here and there. Usually when the count is high, so if I'm putting out a nice bet, i'll throw a white or two up for the dealer too. It's always good to get on the dealers/pit good side. You're going to spend potentially hundreds of hours together (if you're lucky) and its 100% going to effect how they treat you. If you're friendly to the dealers, and try to chat up the pit bosses when you get the chance, they aren't going to even think about backing you off unless you start seriously performing. Plus, comps are so easy to get if they like you.
All good points here. I will say as a dealer, a respected one at my casino i might add, i dont do anything extra unless theyre tipping and if they tipped once they have to keep tipping to get that "special service" like you said were based off tips, i dont go out of my way for any player unless theyre going out of their way for me. But now if you hella taking xare of me there are some rules i may "forget about" until my floor comes and "reminds me"
When playing BJ, I usually buy in %00-1000. When I get my chips, $5 if a $500 buy in, and $10 on a $1000 buy in. Then tip with a portion of winnings every so often or a dealer bet. I tip higher at a craps table because the dealers have a LOT more to do than at a BJ game.
As a former AP and now a dealer I have many thoughts on this topic. My casino is keep your own tips and I always say if you as a dealer fulfill the needs of players such as entertaining, helpful, players are winning etc than a tip is expected. We get minimum wage and nothing hurts more than when someone sits down, is up $1,000’s and doesn’t even think of tipping. I believe in this day and age after everything is said that dealers and players need to have an understanding with one another. Kind of like a courtesy? Because it is entertainment at the end of day even though it is a business to some. As a dealer, if a player is down whatever amount, than no I don’t expect a tip, but when they are up any amount and everything is great I expect at least $1. I deal strings anywhere from 5-7 tables with 30 minute downs and that $1 helps so much. Just my opinion
This is mind boggling that you’re being paid by your employer and just cause someone is up $1000 of their own money… that you think you should be entitled to any of that.
I’d say always tip, the deals can influence so much. In the worst case you will be rated higher and get better comps. In the best case they will help you out. I almost always tip as a dealer bet, better bang for your bucks and encourages help.
When I'm at BlackJack table, I'll put out my bet, and usually $1 chip in front for the the dealer. If I win the dealer makes $2. If I lose neither one of us wins
I used to do this, but if you think about it this is more than twice as expensive as tipping them a dollar when you win. They don't expect you to tip when you lose and when you bet for the dealer thats what you end up doing. Imo best to tip when they expect you to, and also save yourself money.
As far as I can tell players tip more depending on what the dealer offers. Some dealers know perfect strategy and can quickly give good advice. Others are charismatic and make the experience worth the losses. Some people just want to be nice or are superstitious, but most people won't tip for just flipping cards. My casino pools the tips though, which pretty much defeats the whole purpose. So when I play, I just tip more when I win, and the last few before I bust out. On the rare occasion I do deal, I never expect tips, but I especially don't expect them from the guy I just took $3k from. But when I just paid you $5k off a $200 buy in... $100 would be greatly appreciated. I'd also say a big tip at the end is generally more well received than small constant tips. I personally prefer to say thanks one time rather than every winning hand. It's far more genuine when I'm not obligated to say it 50 times for $2 at a time.
I tipped a few dealers at my local market..that would burn/kill the shoe whenever I wanted. (This is rare haha) Meaning i could a get new shoe as soon as it went TC -2 I found this worth it, cause i was able to play more positive TC rounds
Blackjack Apprenticeship hey Colin, can you make a video on the other variables of AP. We all know the math, it’s just the little quirks and hacks that we have find out by ourselves that I’m interested in. Like, little tricks to better our AP. Im a BJA member, watched all the paid videos. I think this one would be a great addition. Kinda like the video of safe guarding bankroll, etc. Besides wonging, these are a few things I’ve found That helps me: -I play grave shifts to early morning shifts to get heads up and more rounds. -i play on late late into the weekends, so all pits are open, less people, and more tables I can jump when TC goes south -I keep some red chips on me, so i can lock down a SD or DD to myself asap. Then i buy or color for more chips after the SD/DD is mine I’ll probably post this topic on the forum too Thanks
I tip out of courtesy. The tip based retail work that most people do in this country pays so poorly outside of what they take home in tips for their service. Now that I can count cards I make sure to tip for certain, especially if I'm winning a lot. I've had a couple of dealers who were sharp and could tell I knew how to play while counting, and I feel that if you tip they are more likely to play stupid for you so you both walk away with more change in your pocket at the end of the night.
Another scenario If you win a alot constantly and you don't tip. I had cases though that the dealers seemed upset. They would start whispering to the put bosses as they move to another table to alternate dealer's. I think dealers would call out the player to the pit boss that the player is winning alot of money. Just to make sure they have acknowledged the loses the table is having. I know the pit already has it covered but don't want to have the dealer to contribute to a possible back off in the near future. I don't like tipping but a happy dealer may still help the cover if you make money and he as well. Least he won't call you out and add to the problem of a back off?
I wanna become a dealer just cuz is a good job to know and I’m constantly moving I know how to count and I would for sure tell my boss if you don’t tip 😂the good thing about the casino job is the free food the breaks and some of the benefits if you deal high limit is not even that bad
Tipping is literally the easiest thing in the world. If you don't wanna tip don't tip! If you do wanna tip... Tip! I usually tip if the dealer is charismatic and good at keeping the conversation flowing. I love table talk, so I'll tip a good dealer when I feel they deserve it. I don't think it's a civic duty, but I would hope that even the most hardcore card counters could, in theory, tip a "good" dealer that gave them a smile.
In my eyes, not tipping a dealer is like not tipping a waiter/waitress. It is not up to the dealer if you win or lose. If you can’t afford to tip, you can’t afford to gamble.
It is also not my responsibility to give them money for there job. If i go somewhere i want to see what the actual price is and not the price + hidden costs are. Just tell me how much i have to pay and maybe i will change my mind taking your offer and go somewhere else.
TIPPING is the monetary appreciation of good service. no good service provided....no tip expected or required. the rest is up to you.i generally overtip. probably silly.
the stacking the tip on your own bet and paying them from that win is a better idea than putting the tip in front of your own bet, for sure. as long as you win several rounds, it still only costs you (risk) of $5, but the dealer can make $10-15...$25 maybe even.
This is true, but if you lose the first hand it is the same for the dealer and if you win the first hand and lose the second, the dealer makes half as much. So, it's actually worse for the dealer, but that translates into better for the player, which is the point.
As a pervious non advantage player I have no quarrel with tipping, the only thing I don’t like is that at my local casino all tips are combined and shared with all table dealers.
Yeah us dealers make $4.25 starting off. We rely on your guys tips, though we don’t expect them. But if you come to the table with 40 bucks and leave with 100, just throw your dealer $5 and everyone is happy
Most don't appreciate how much dealers have to multitask just to do their job and keep the table secure. If on top of that they make my time enjoyable with friendly banter I'm ok with tipping for what I would call good service to me. How much? It depends on you just like wait staff tipping
I'm about to comment on tipping. I had seen your article on tipping a long time ago. I'm seeing it for a second time. I recently had a rather intense discussion with, lady dealer. It was towards the middle of the night shift, a new dealer came to the table. She delt me a couple of hands and commented, "I work for tips." To which I replied, "I don't tip." "Maybe you should negotiate for a pay raise. Because you aren't going to get any tips from me. "She, responded why not, you have won a lot." "Yes, and I worked my butt off for what I have won. I don't believe I should,pay my taxes, and contribute to paying yours also." The pit boss heard our discussion, moved in and whispered something to her. Within the next few hands she was relieved. I didn't see her the rest of the night. I cashed in my chips, I walked away with $7,500 plus and went to bed. Next morning I talked to my wife about what had occurred with the dealer. She advised me that maybe I should tip the dealer. Now whenever we go out to dinner or wherever a customer maybe expected to tip for the service I hand her the ticket and she applies what she deems appropriate, for the service received. I don't consider EV, winnings, bankroll or anything else. That is my opinion on tipping. Tony
I always tip the dealers, its personal. I love the game, I cant play without good dealers, I like to break the law, of proability, it appeals to my criminal nature...Free money for all ha ha ha .Iike to stick it to " The Man" represented by the house....anyone that has to deal with the general public is underpaid.If Im winning I like wealth redistribution to include the hard working men and women that make it all possible.
So I play blackjack regularly and I basic advantage play, and run the odds like a mechanic. I’m good enough to draw better than the house over the long haul. I paid for an entire Vegas trip including plane fare, steak dinners, hotel, got comped show tickets. I’m not a high roller but we were at the tables for a long time and I was tipping dealers and enjoying chatting and it was a good time, so the pit boss just thought we were good folks and comped us their show tickets. Nice seats, front row! And on our flight back I counted up cash and was missing… a dollar. My practice on tipping is to use blackjack bonus chips as dealer bets. If I get a blackjack and it pays 1.5 to 1, I use the .5 as a dealer bet on the next hand. I don’t do this every blackjack, but roughly every other blackjack. Depends on how many people are on the table. If there’s a lot of people and everyone is tipping now and again, the dealer is making money and that’s cool. If there are a lot of people and nobody is tipping, I will tip and get them all started. They see the dealer express thanks and it me having good luck and it makes them all want to tip the dealer.
