Good presentation, Preston. In my humble opinion, a waistcoat with a self back can be worn without a coat, though agree if has a lining back must be worn with a coat. Though willing to be corrected, I am still learning and will be until the day my CPU powers off. I never attempted this look as an adult remembering my days as a boy doing this and therefore, there is a strong avoidance to it. Same with wearing short sleeves.
People usually wear the pants shirt n tie without jacket due to 40C temperature in our country Pakistan even all over in South Asia like India n srilanka as well. What do u say?
9:42 "Sven, do we have a clip of you _undressing_ a suit jacket? We don't? Only clips of you dressing up? Oh well, nevermind - I guess we'll just play that *backwards* !"
I spent several years driving a semi. The company had no dress code so, as you can imagine, many of our drivers looked like homeless bums in sweat pants and flipflops. I chose to wear khaki work pants and a tucked shirt with brown tie folded in the shirt midway. The look was similar to US Army or Marine uniforms of the 1940s. I matched this with a waist length leather jacket (in cooler weather) and brown steel toes boots. The look made me feel professional and commanded respect. I am an Air Force veteran and so the look seemed an obvious choice.
I think you did right by the choices that you mentioned, and Uncle Sam may have had something to do with your appearance, The tucked-in tie brings back U.S. Army memories for me, although in combat there were no rules. Still, a proper style of uniform for the job at hand was a must. As to the shirt and tie without jacket debate goes, I remove my jacket to work in my shop at my bench and roll up my sleeves, but do NOT go in public without donning the jacket and buttoning the cuffs. My tie is a necessary element that helps me to radiate competence, experience, and maturity and since I frequently deal with symphony musicians I feel it is respectful as well. Besides all that, I like dressing well and appropriately.
@@burritodog3634 I have read somewhere that the tie was tucked in that manner to make sure it didn't interfere with complicated machinery or get stained when handling dirty stuff
Please do a whole video on wearing a vest/waistcoat without a jacket! I think it can look okay as long as the lining material isn't too odd or is made out of the same material as the rest of the vest.
Personally I love wearing tie whitout jacket . In fact I roll my sleeves ,wear suspenders and it deliver big time ,less formal but this outfit is fire if you have an athletic shape
I think that purely aesthetically, that can be really cool and masculine. Even so, I think it still looks incomplete when you leave the house like that. And, paradoxically, like you're trying too hard. Instead, I'd start with a jacket and just take it off casually and naturally at some appropriate point. Like if I'm at my work station at the Uni on a day when I'm teaching/have a meeting (hence dressed up - we have no code), I might toss my jacket on the windowsill and go grab a coffee without it, etc. Or at a faculty party towards the end, when everyone's intoxicated and warm, toss the jacket and roll up your sleeves (I, too, wear suspenders). I dunno, it's a mental/historical thing. It feels weird to start building the classic outfit and just stop halfway. Especially with suspenders, which are supposed to be concealed. I take the rare chances I get to show them off, but if you look like you're deliberately showing them off then it just feels iffy.
I think a shirt and tie without the jacket looks just fine. I wear that Mon - Thurs during any season not summer. I work at a gov't office where we don't interact with the Public but the dress code outside of summer is business pro. I would keep my jacket off so often I just stopped wearing it all together and left it at home.
With temperatures in the 30°s (90°s for the Americans) and humidity in the 80-90 percent range, and working in a building without air conditioning, even a light, open weave jacket would be a burden to wear. Every month is a summer month in SE Asia. Since a tie is a purely decorative item, adding one to a nice dress shirt can be a really nice look.
I do believe the industry you work in will dictate much of this. But sorry guys, you’re not selling me on the idea that a jacket is somehow just as cool (temperature-wise) as just the shirt. I believe in being as stylish as possible but I’m also just not going to wear a jacket when it’s 90deg outside
I work in a financial institution, and the dress code for men requires this exact look (shirt & tie, no jacket). Even the CEO never wears a jacket. I began wearing a jacket just over a year ago, and get comments all the time about how "dressed-up" I am.
simon leibovic I agree. I teach like that all the time. I think is a nice balance between preserving the formality, but maintaining approachability. Besides I like ties and don’t like jackets
I'm not a teacher, but I am studying education at my university and have also noticed this style trend in the teaching field. Found it quite odd to be frowned upon here at the Gazette.
In South Asian region like India , Srilanka , Bangladesh summer is too hot , so even in white collar job we wear tie with dress shirt and no jacket , like I work in a bank .
Heya, could you do a video on fashion for teachers? This would be of complete importance for me. Especially if you speak about jackets for hot places, since most schools here in Brazil haven't ACs or ventilators. It would also be cool if you talked more about suspenders, since belts are somewhat uncomfortable in comparison.
This is a much more popular look in the working world then you realize- I think it is fine because a jacket can read as too formal. I've been having trouble with getting the right jacket for myself but wearing the shirt/tie with no jacket has worked for me overall.
I forgot their uniform was white dress shirt with short sleeves and a thin black tie and black dress pants and dress shoes while riding a bicycle .that would have to have been uncomfortable and hot.nothing looks worse than wearing a dress shirt and tie with the whole shirt looking like you just got out of the shower wearing your clothes
It's too wide and that makes it look too matchy-matchy. It looks like he bought a generic set. I would have picked something thinner and with a bit more personality. Tiny woven bulldogs or something. Geometric on geometric, with perfectly matched colors, and a too wide tie is very middle management. Perfectly matched, and fairly ordinary, with a suit is elegant. Perfectly matched and kind of ordinary without at least a jacket is very, "My tie came with my shirt." Then again, I'm really not a fan of a shirt and tie with no jacket or sweater. Even if it's the "right" choice, it's almost never an attractive one.
I have subscribed to The Gentleman's Gazette for a couple of years now - all excellent classic styling advice! That said, I am a teacher and have endeavored to dress better at work; I have achieved this on many occasions - - not least due to the advice and styling espoused here -- and I've been complimented many times. Now for the bombshell: I wear a dress shirt, tie and..........waist coat....... I works for me as I use an interactive whiteboard and an often writing or using the large screen in my teaching. If I wore a jacket I'd struggle if I'm honest. I think I'd rather stretch/bend slightly the rule rather than going back to dressing down. I could argue that the shirt/tie (gosh and tie bar)/ waist coat is an expression of Sprezzatura ;-) What do you think of my arguments? Thanks again for the excellent content Tony
Good solid advice throughout. I am however claiming my scientist/engineer exemption from the rule. As a Research and Development engineer working in the offices and design labs of a large German corporation, I spent most of my career wearing a white shirt and tie. (I think the white short-sleeved shirt and tie is a more America-specific "1960's NASA Engineer" combination) Mostly I did computer-based design work, but if I was working with chemicals or revolving machinery the long-tie would be substituted for a bow-tie for obvious safety reasons. (which is the reason why the stereotype of a scientist is shown wearing a bow tie) The trousers were always suit-trousers, so I could quickly put on the corresponding suit-jacket if I needed to attend a meeting, where a suit was the required dress code.
Layering will almost always amount to more sophistication, and it is a great way to incorporate various styles and looks. With that being said, however, it is possible to look somewhat stylish and professional with the tie-and-no jacket look, but mostly if you have a more muscular build that does not necessarily need to be flattered with a suit jacket or blazer. I do this at times when I teach and it is extremely hot in Tehran, and do manage to get away with it most of the times.
I would have to disagree with this video. I feel that the look is still complete even if there is no jacket accompaniment. In my honest opinion, even though this video gives "tips" on wearing a shirt and tie, it comes across as making the individual who favors the shirt-and-tie look feel like an outcast and that they are making a mistake. It appears very argumentative. Maybe others have not gotten this vibe, but it was the vibe that I received. I just want to finally say that I mean no harm with this comment. This is just the feeling that I received watching this video, after being a subscriber of the GG for several years.
Great video, but let me just say that I appreciate your command of the English language. You actually said "one fewer layer". Today even on newscasts and in commercials, no one seems to know how, when or why to use the word "fewer". :D
As a teacher wearing a jacket would be way too formal. I the only people I see in education in suits are principals and above. Most in the trenches teachers wear just a shirt and tie. This is even more so for me being a chemistry teacher.
Mentioned in a preliminary draft of this video's script was that teachers are in another field where striking a balance between "dress" and "labor" is seen as acceptable. Thanks for sharing, Rodrigo! - Preston
Sorry, but I have to disagree about the vest/no jacket option. I work in a pretty professional office and get complimented for this look semi-regularly.
@2:10 Holy cow! what the thickest knot in the world is goin on around here? seriously, that guy probably choked himself by the end of the day with that knot
Personally I enjoy wearing a tie without a jacket during more informal family celebrations. For example on Christmas, Mother’s/Father’s Day or Midsummer.
I attended a job interview in my early 20’s on a 40 degree plus day in Summer. I didn’t have the experience for the position, however as I was walking out of the interview, the interviewer asked me where my jacket was. I told them I didn’t bring one as it was too hot, their response, “Gentlemen always wear a jacket.” That advice has stayed with me throughout my life.
Also make sure to wear the proper width tie. With a jacket you have the size of the lapels as a guide, without a jacket you have to go by the width of your chest.
I disagree. If you have properly fitted shirts, you can flatter your form better without the jacket and I think it is more modern and stylish to wear a well-fitted shirt and stylish tie than anything with a jacket.
I do agree with a few parts of the explanation, but personally, I feel that it could go both ways, with or without a jacket. My thought process, is that as long as you're put-together and presentable, you're good to go. Great video, though!
Great video, thanks. I’m a senior hospital doctor (consultant) in NZ. When I was a junior doctor in the mid-2000s, wearing a jacket signified that you were a consultant; junior doctors were more or less required to not wear a jacket with their shirt and tie. 15 years later, both the tie and the jacket have gone out of fashion, and as a consultant myself now, I just wear an open-necked business shirt, with sleeves rolled up, with business pants and dress shoes.
Often, if I am to wear the tie and shirt without the jacket at work I will plan on wearing suspenders. As a banker, sometimes I get to meet clients outside of office so it is full suit. But when working at my office most of the time I hang my suit jacket if I do not expect to meet anyone but my fellow analysts.
I disagree. What if you don’t have a blazer yet have a tie and want to get a job and have an interview. I’d say wear a tie anyways. Looks better than not wearing one. This guy can’t pull that off because he looks like a penguin with glasses
I think a tie without a jacket is an appropriate look. Definitely for more casual occasions, not funerals, certain dinners or weddings. When the dancing be starts at a wedding, anything goes. Office wear depends on the standards of the individual office.
I'm one of those who strongly believes that if man is going to wear a neck or bow tie, that a suit jacket should accompany it. Otherwise, the outfit just looks half baked.
Personally I wear a shirt and tie to work Monday through Thursday and a button down on Friday. I wear a solid white shirt, tone down tie and a tie bar. For my line of work (early childhood education) it works best. I pair my outfit with a jacket when I've got a meeting.
I taught school in Texas and tried to dress in coat and tie. The coat was taken off about 2nd period. 30 high school students and if you're doing it right, teaching school even with a/c, you get hot.....
You guys have to get over the vest as a transition layer. Yes, if it’s a matched suit it does look incomplete without the jacket, however a mixed look with separates looks sharp and can work with or without a tie.
I'm a barber. I like the shirt and tie to give a professional look. No need for a jacket at work becauselike you stated in the video with regard to the engineer my work is somewhat active. And I'm usually wearing a smock or apron to protect my clothes or limit the amount of hair that gets on my clothes. So for me the shirt and tie combo works great. However, I often cringe when people ask me "Why do you wear a suit to work?" Or when people comment he always has on a suit. Sometimes secretly I feel like a fraud 😁
I live in a warm country (Nicaragua, Central America) and work in company with Casual Dress Code (Not even Smart Casual), I used to dress with dress shirts, chinos and dress leather shoes, but just recently I wanted to step up my outfit and instead of wearing a jacket, decided to use a tie. What would your opinion be for an escenario like mine?
I am a teacher who still wants to look stylish. I teach art. Painting, drawing, printmaking, etc. I probably wear a tie three out of five days a week. When the weather gets cooler here in East Tennessee sports coats, and sweaters also. I am doing something early in the morning before class. I will keep my jacket on. Once I’m in class, remove the jacket and typically put on my apron which holds my tie in place. I also roll up my sleeves. Thoughts?
One thing that you should keep in mind is what age you are. It is much more appropriate for a young adult (teens to 20s) to wear a tie without a jacket than for someone in their 40s.
Roll up the sleeves and it looks like it's done on purpose, not like you're missing a piece. Then again, I'm in tech and marketing so I think I can get away with it.
As a woman, I can't stand men with a tie and a shirt, but without a jacket. It just looks absolutely tasteless to me. You either skip the tie and the shirt and wear something different (like a light pullover) or wear everything together, i.e. your tie, your shirt, AND your jacket.
I don't know if it's just me but all of the videos featuring Preston have a moving background. It's really unnecessary and distracts from Preston as I try to focus on him and what's going on in the background. Sven's style where the video focuses just on him is much preferred.
I'd lump the "NASA Engineer" role together with "Generic Government Employee" and suggested that the latter thus can also wear the jacketless ensemble.
towards the end of the video, he mentions how the shirt he's wearing is on the less formal side. but given that he's wearing cuff links, an item that is everything but formal, i wonder where on the formality spectrum this shirt really falls?
Dad always wore a wool tie with a white or solid blue dress shirt. The tie clasp was a slide rule. Also a 3 piece wool gaberdine suit. In later years he went without a jacket but still sore the tie. Mom said if he took off his tie his head would fall off!
Please please please wear an undershirt or undervest with dress shirts. No sticking fabric to skin. No chest hair hanging out. Also you need a style guide for men with ‘bay window’ bellies. Guess the shirt and tie are out for those. Lol
I wear bow ties exclusively and often leave the jacket at home , but both the shirt and bow ties are of a casual nature and material ie prints or stripes. I have even taken to wearing (GASP!) really nice flannel shirts and bow ties in the colder months....please forgive me?
Ran through the comment section, and it's kinda disappointing to see so many jokes about "wearing tie without shirt". Because sometimes I wonder if it's ok to wear so and so from time to time from "gentleman's" POW.
What about social context? If it's July in Georgia (US) and everyone at church skips the jacket but wears the tie? Is it a good idea to be the oddball just to be technically correct? I doubt it. Second, I wish you would have addressed the conflict of interest between people who sell jackets and their advice that jackets are almost essential. I'm not writing that you are wrong, it's just a minor elephant in the room.
There's a traditional rule that shoes should be darker than the trousers. I see a fashion faux pas repeated again and again on this channel with brown shoes that fail to harmonise well.
Great videos and great points, but some of the recommendations will not work in central Florida during spring and Summer. 95 degrees and 65% humidity will make the trifecta unbearable during those seasons. Not all of Florida has Air conditioner lol
But open weave unlined jackets, as well as a shirt and trouser made from open weave fabrics will work in Florida. They will allow the air to pass through, whereas a lined jacket ans tighter weaved shirt and trousers will cause you to perspire
@@lenocman2 I agree. Some fabrics can be more tolerable than others. But some days, I just can't fault people for choosing to skip the Jacket or the tie, or for wearing short sleeves. It is not an ideal look, but I feel like men's fashion needs to take into consideration the climate conditions.
I think that bringing the jacket with you is the best way to go. That way you can go sans jacket if you're sitting behind a desk working on a computer but wear it if you need to meet and greet. I am looming for work in the legal field and see this done a lot.
Please see Gary Numan (Pleasure Principle era) as well as the Kraftwerk uniform, the "new wave" look, more edgy than the "engineer" tradition with the darker colors. To a lesser extent, various punk rock or pop-goth bands, same thing for the most part but with skulls. Those were the looks that got me started wearing ties and shirts, for better or for worse. I've tried to adapt it for Sunday wear and going out but with limited success even with more conservative patterns. I live in Florida anyway so I've fallen back to just the unbuttoned shirt collar until it gets cooler and I can get a decent blazer. With a sweater would be my daily uniform by choice if it were practical. Also, thank you for acknowledging those of us with the "slim fit isn't slim enough" build. I've yet to tailor a dress shirt but the "Extra Slim" from Express in 14 1/2 fits me well, but their patterns and quality are somewhat limited.
Amazing production, yet, I would like to recommend having Preston gesticulate more in future videos. He seems a bit nervous, and moving his hands and body, in my humble opinion, would probably make him more comfortable. Cheers!
My office isn’t too formal. Suit, shirt and tie are appreciated. But you can skip the tie - in fact, most colleagues do skip it. I, however, prefer to skip the jacket. I think it looks better (more dynamic ? fits the engineer background) and is more comfortable. You mention the tie clip. What do you think about the invisible tie clip?
@@fedezzefelbudapestet6493 Each to their own I say. I prefer the fashions anf cuts of suits from the 20's to the 50's. I dislike modern cut suits. But again, I'n happy whenever someone finds a style they like, feel comfortable in and enjoy
