Good one! If that was my former gym, it would be the first time that at least 2/3 of people in it would have listened to a TED talk, or even heard that they exist.
@@tcistrash9911build it up over time, both your strength and maybe lose a bit of weight if you’re overweight and can’t support your own body weight at all
It’s insane how trainers will skip the shit that “looks weird” but in the end your body looks weird because you’re skipping logical/important exercises. You’re doing the lords work bro
@@tanner6880 actually it is logical. Better muscle development happens when you a stress or exercise the natural motion of muscles joints. And after watching this video I did some research and one of the first things to come up was why some lifters have weirdly developed or unbalanced looks to certain muscle groups and it’s because of the neglect to train the whole muscle. It might look stupid to you but your agility, stamina, overall look, and joints will thank you later. No need for the sour comment. Then again, it’s YT so.
@@tanner6880 I'm sorry you don't see this for what it is. many guys with monster shoulders can no longer put their arms overhead or behind their back. You are thinking size, but functionality is key. especially over 35, but its a case of use it or lose it at any age. You can have big shoulders and flexible shoulders. or you can be just another lifter with a torn rotator cuff who cant put his arms up anymore.
so you think that 350lbs pure muscle lineman in football hang from a pullup bar during weightlifting? no... no they dont. This movement is unnecessary and a waste of time and not only that. its also misleading telling people to stay away from shoulder pressing and lateral raises as these things are proven to build muscle in the shoulders? if you want to maintain mobility, you stretch, you drink water, you stretch some more, this is not functional training, its a joke.@@paulcox2447
It depends on your goals. If you train with a lot of weight and you do stuff like this, you increase the risk of hurting yourself. For warm up/mobility or maybe against some sort of shoulder pain this is great, but if you want to build huge shoulders, thats not the right way.
@@EpicIntensix Bruh you are dead wrong. How could this be bad for you if your training for size? This will decrease your chances of hurting your shoulders when liftting heavy weights.
@@EpicIntensixyeah, a non-runner attempting a marathon will severely injure themselves, but just like with anything physical, if you gradually build up your strength the correct way, you won’t get injured.
@@RainWhenIDieKane No bro. Its always an easy movement with a lot of weight. Up and down, left & right, back and f... If you do what the guy in the vid does, but with a lot of extra weight hanging on you, you will hurt your shoulder the moment you move it. Thats why we all never saw this Bs in real life in any gym. You think any bogybuilder or prof. Fitness athlete does that bullshit? If you fall today & you start to have shoulder pain, you probably get told to do stuff like this, but not if you want massive shoulders. Like I said, its ok for warm up, against some sort of pain, mobility or what else.
Yes, I've had an issue when I raise my arms straight up there was a point in that motion where I would feel a tight part that was uncomfortable in my shoulder then once past that spot it would be fine. I saw this vid and tried it in my home gym and I literally felt something weird in my shoulder for a few moments then it stopped. I continued a few times and now the motion up and down with my arms does not cause the binding soreness it use to at that spot in its range of motion. I feel it freed something up that was binding or tight. I now do this 3 times a week on each shoulder. @@sebastianlozano7707
This is why calisthenics saved my life. It really made me aware of how bad my joints were. Weightlifting basically masked all of that. I could still go heavy with bad mobility. But I can’t progress in calisthenics without fixing my joints. My right shoulder needs a lot of work. I can do this with my left hand but not my right.
Yeah! I got so much of that when I went to an adult gymnastics class and got laughed at for even trying to do pull ups 😂😂 wasn’t even ready for their warm ups
@@TomMorrison I used to do pull ups all the time in my younger years. Then once I tried a gymnast full range pull up, I couldn’t even do one. I def laughed at myself.
I first realized how weak I was from weight lifting when I arm wrestled a far skinnier less muscular coworker and I couldn’t get him to budge….and he didn’t even workout like that
@@malibu2.010 I know that feel. There’s a clear difference between training for muscle and training for strength. And calisthenics prioritizes strength over muscles.
@@saberswordsmen1 there is a Lot of Data and evidence, that surgerys on rotatorcuff related pain is probably Not usefull at all. There has been a systematic review on this topic in 2015 i think. Patients divided into 3 groups. One group got surgery. One group Fake surgery. One group conservative. The Outcome after a year showed No differences between These groups, in fact, after 3 years the group that didnt get surgery Had the best Outcome.. Hope this clarifys stuff a little
Well thats the point of selling something... Make it Sound like it makes sense... Not saying that its completly stupid... But black and white and thats dumb 😅
Wow. I've had a shoulder pain for quite some time and i cannot express how grateful I am for this. It literally immediately alleviated the pain. Thank you so much.
@@wasd3108 Yes, don't be thankful for someone alleviating pain I've had in my shoulder. I've tried so many things and even struggled to bench press over 20kg before because my shoulder was in so much pain. His videos also got rid of the pain I had in my hip from years of playing football. I haven't played in 7 years and now I'm actually considering playing again. My hip is still a little tender but before it was so bad I couldn't even run. So, don't be the guy to do what?
@@vayull7163 so you had an issue for 7 years and you're telling me it took a youtube short where dude does a single arm hang with rotation to "fix" your issue? And you're asking me why I wrote that? Still? You know that any professional or any other advice you would've seeked would land you with doing some sort of mobility exercises? ;D Also, jumping straight to such exercise (putting fully body weight on an issue) when you have issues is not a good idea (not saying this is your case necessarily, but just my guess it might be)
@@wasd3108 I never said my shoulder was in pain for 7 years. It was my hip that was in pain. Also the doctors in my area are terrible and I get really bad anxiety about going to the doctors. For example, I have something wrong with my stomach and I've had 15 appointments and loads of tests and they still haven't figured out what's wrong with me.
I've done this exercise a lot. I'm powerlifter and I cannot say just how much I appreciate people seeing this video that stuff gives you a shit ton of mobility that is needed in exercising
I kept seeing comments of people saying they don’t think he actually does this the work out. I just tried it and it is far more difficult than I expected. I’m not hugely in shape and am more endurance than strength right now but I expected to do it with little issue. Edit: just watched again and realized he started with an underhand grip when I started with over. Makes it a lot easier for me.
I am developing a theory that Google is diagnosing people based on mobile device sensors to detect mobility issues and sending people relevant video recommendations to fix the problem area.
Holy crap why is this the first time I'm 52 years old been working out since I was 14 that I've heard this? Why aren't people teaching better? Thank you for this❤
@@Finalformworthy you are incredibly wrong. I’ve been doing it without even referencing this video. It is common sense that when you stretch, stress and out weight loads on tissue, tendons and joints they will start to build stronger and your tendons will get thicker over time, keeping you able and athletic. This is why old people who don’t do calisthenics and weight lift have extremely brittles bones, joints and bodies.
@@blockminingsolutions this is not even a shoulder exercise its a forearm pronator/supinator exercise... The way you strengthen the shoulder muscles(and therefore tendons) is by lifting weights presses and rows are plenty enough.
I have the issue that i can isolate my biceps on standing curls. My shoulders and almost all of my upper body gets tense and works in aswell i try to hold my shouldee deep and a little back but im still fully tense😢
Thanks for the video! Mobility is so darn important for your posture and flexibility. Weight lifting makes you look good, but the older you get the harder will be the impact of muscle shortening on your body, the less flexible it becomes.
I am literally sat here wide eyed and quaking with fear at the thought of rotating my shoulders. You bet I'm scared of that (and I accept your apology by the way)
He’s 100% correct. It’s the “rotator cuff” there’s all kinds of muscles and tendons working together in a nearly 360 degree fashion, you need to stretch and train all of them to keep healthy shoulders. You can do most of them on monkey bars fyi
Does this really work for the rotator n rotator issues? Seriously, I've had issues for years where my shoulders completely burn out! I try different stretches but it's hit n miss. Anything that helps would be appreciated!
absolutely. We are part of the great ape family. our shoulders are built to climb and hang. getting those movements back into you life is key! whatever level you are capable of@@jimmybuie9932
@@jimmybuie9932stretching isn't usually the solution to rotator cuff issues, they usually need strengthening. Resistance bands make it super easy to target them with resisted rotations and stability work
They are if you believe this is all shoulder. Basic understanding of anatomy is beyond the knowledge needed to understand wats happening in the video 🤣
Basically, you should incorporate various training styles into your routine. Big muscles are pointless is they aren't functional, and they're worse if they prohibit proper mobility.
@@gabegabriel9288functional refers to the bodies ability to move. They’re saying theres no point in having aesthetically pleasing muscles if they aren’t to be used in an effective way. For example if a bodybuilder struggles to bend over without back pain, the body builder would’ve gotten more out of training in a better way for him to function more practically. I disagree but I get it
I also prefer my body to be functional and for my trainings to be useful in my day to day life such as going to swim, riding bikes, lifting heavy things upstairs etc etc. But body building is really more about aesthetics its liek saying there is no point in drawing a picture.
Yup, started climbing trees regularly as a form of exercise a few months ago, and my shoulder feel absolutely bulletproof in every position. Much stronger than it’s ever been with weight training.
Now this is a fitness account ill fucking follow, not a stupid beefcake trying to sell me something, just a healthy ass human being who knows what he’s talking about.
That's some sound advice right there. I'd meet shoulders in my 30s causing me a lot of pain and an inability to do simple tasks. Ive been doing solid shoulder exercises like he's shower for almost 20 years. I quit drinking about 15 years ago, which also helped tremendously. I'm now in my early 50s and I've not felt this good since i was 25
The bicep brachii is one of the primary drivers of elbow flexion ( bicep curl) but the anterior delts do get some activation. Plus the joint capsule has to stiffen and remain locked in place during the curl. He's not wrong showing a bicep curl when suggesting that it can cause issues in your shoulders.
@@nokyoteefowt4699, but bicep curls are not used to train shoulders, which is his point. So yes, it was wrong to emulate a bicep curl when discussing shoulder training. Your anatomy discussion doesn’t make him or you correct
@@richiegreene4102 actually it does Dick. He didn't say these movements are for training your shoulders. He said doing movements like these will cause your shoulders to suck. This is bc the joint capsule stiffens during a bicep curl. Same would happen with most pressing and pulling movements. Pay attention. Wasn't even talking to you in the first place.
Thank you for this. As you were explaining it I realized why I have some of the problems I have in my shoulders and how to fix them in about 30 seconds. You’re a blessing.
Best way to keep your shoulders strong ... is by having a strong back (scapular stability), having your arms over the head for a long time (overhead press for example) will lead you to a labrum tears, specially pull ups position, much worse if you don't have a strong back. I had a shoulder reconstruction, and the first thing the doctor told me, was that my back was unstable and it happened due to excess on overhead excercises. Focused on training my back after surgery ... and now I can say I have strong and healthy shoulders, NOT BIG but strong and healthy. Also, remember the trade-off of the shoulder. You trade 3 dimensional motion in expense of being a naturally unstable joint. No meaning of being disrespectful.
WoW… the lack of actual knowledge in the words you just said is shocking!! … so you’ll literally just say ANYTHING without having any personal study time hi?? 🤯
Love this. I suffer from muscle atrophy from a chronic health condition. I try very hard to consider caring for ALL of my body. I find myself doing a lot of varied workouts to hit these lesser cared for areas of the body and the results have been great. My quality of life has improved. "It looks kind of weird' yep people have comments about my routines, but I speak this stuff like the gospel! Good lesson brother
I don’t think this is necessarily true if you understand how helical angles work which is what muscles are formed from. A lot of our shoulder mobility actually comes from our ribcage’s ability to expand and inversely close the infrasternal angle. The rest of the rotation is superimposed in 4 different ways, eccentric yielding, concentric yielding, eccentric overcoming, and concentric overcoming. By forcing an end range on a hold like this you would potentially just orient with spinal substitution into eccentric overcoming if you don’t have the space necessary at the shoulder. Eccentric overcoming is a late propulsion contraction which biases you towards the end of gait cycle to produce force. Yes you will strengthen *something*, but you will also lose space since the joints have to orient to lock into maximum shoulder internal rotation in this movement.
Right on! nothing helped my shoulder mobility more than massaging out all around the rib cage - front, back , side In fact I think that is why hanging is so good for shoulder health - it stretches lats out ... I build shoulder strength with movements that use less twisting and still find increased shoulder strength and toughness also carry over to push ups etc
@@agnidas5816 I recommend pressing unilaterally on an inclined bench with good food contact. Pushups are more likely to ER the humerus and IR the radius creating a twist at the elbow over time. It also places a lot of bilateral top down pressure on the ribcage which impacts mobility poorly over time.
i’m confused how do you lose space, like your overall range of motion would be lowered, but the supporting tendons and structure would be strong? i’m also wondering how likely injury is in a movement like this, and how does it compare to holding weight and rotating the shoulder the same way, as opposed to hanging
@@woahitsmeach9150 When you build strength you are superimposing the internal rotation from a distal joint onto the external rotation of the proximal joint. This is why you lose space because if the proximal joint cannot internally rotate because you only internally rotated at the distal joint you will end up creating a “disagreement” where say the humerus wants to externally rotate excessively while the radius internally rotates excessively. This is your typical cubital tunnel syndrome or medial knee pain. It applies to everything.
Man the algorithm must be reading my mind. I just thought about how wrong the notion of lifting weights=being fit and healthy is and how every kid buys into it (me included back then) because you see these strong and incredibly looking people. This is the stuff that people need for health, longevity and actual fitness. Weights have their place but they are not everything.
Yep! Far too many people train like their favourite professional athletes with zero foundation whatsoever and always end up hurt. Very frustrating, sure you can train like that eventually but everyone should spend 1-2 years doing my fluff first then go be cool 😂
Pretty funny how doctors will tell you you need surgery for shoulder pain, when in reality this is all you need to do. My shoulders feel like a million bucks after doing this. Thanks!
Been about 5 days if trying three different shoulder exercises off a handful of his youtube shorts, and yeah my shoulders and mobility is getting fluid and just sounds weird but smoother. It also improves my entire workout session as warmup items.
Take care of your shoulders, guys. If I could turn back time, I'd be doing this kind of training before I suffered a bad dislocation at age 18. I'm now 30 and my shoulder has dislocated another 1000 times. I do straight hangs after every weight session, that's the best I can do. I'm fortunate in that I can bench press 140kg. It was extremely difficult to get to that point, when I first started lifting my shoulder would pop out every workout.
Shoulders do not rotate! They mostly raise - your back actually is the primary rotator of your arm - hence the "rotator cuff". Also your example of "shoulder rotation" was mostly pronation and supination, which is primary bicep/tricep and forearm driven. I suggest that you learn and get proper information + certifications before you teach and preach!! - spoken from a physical therapist
You think this is bad just wait til you see the guy who says you can train bone strength by smacking your hand off the ground really hard between pushups. Arthritis here we goooooo!!
Ok, but when he was giving examples of what people normally do for shoulders and he went to bicep curls, made me rethink how much he actually knows about working out.
You made me so maaaad. 😆😆😆 The fact that you're so incredibly right. I been wanting beautiful roubded shoulders and that is the most basic essential movement. Superb omg. What a gut punch.
Damn you just figured me out why I don't like workout advice today... It's generally shitty.. I'll be looking for more from you, this is going to get me motivated and the outcomes I desire
