Shure SE215, Sennheiser IE4, CCA C10 Vs Audix A10 In Ears (public)

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In this video I compare some in ear monitors priced below $300. I play two different tracks and you can here the direct signal vs the sound reproduced by the in ear monitor and captured by a measurement mic.
00:00 Intro and setup description
01:49 Listen and Compare Sennheiser IE4 and Shure SE215 with "moossmann" track
03:35 Listen and Compare Sennheiser IE4 and Shure SE215 with "I'm On My Own" Track
04:43 Listen and Compare Audix A10 and Shure SE215 with "I'm On My Own" Track
05:33 Listen and Compare Audix A10 and Shure SE215 with "moossmann" track
06:34 Listen and Compare Audix A10 and CCA C10 with "moossmann" track
07:13 Listen and Compare Audix A10 and CCA C10 with "I'm On My Own" Track
07:42 Outro
The songs I used for testing are:
moossmann - Have I Ever www.moossmann.com/
Links to The products used in this demo are:
Audix TM-2 audixusa.com/products/tm2/
Shure SE215 - www.shure.com/en-US/products/...
Sennheiser IE4 - en-us.sennheiser.com/earbuds-...
Audix A10 - www.prosoundweb.com/audix-int...
CCA C10 - www.aliexpress.com/item/32981...
The In-Ear Series
#1 intro and description • In Ear #1 Diving into ...
#2 Specs on the in-ear and test gear • In Ear #2 - In-Ear Mon...
#3 In-ear vs Humanly body polarity • In Ear #3 - Humanly Bo...
#4 In ear cable types and tests • In Ear #4 - Hear Headp...
#5 Can an Armature be a mic? • In-Ear #5 Can a Balanc...
#6 Teardown of voice coil and armature in-ears • In-Ear #6 Tear down 2 ...
#7 Listening to raw armature vs voice coil driver • In-Ear #7 Compare Bala...
#8 Using in-ears as ear canal mics • In Ear #8 Using In-Ear...
#8a Using in-ears as ear canal mics with Sammy • Hear Inside Your Hear ...
#9 Hear and Compare L-Acoustics Contour • In Ear #9 Hear and Com...
#10 Hear and compare lower cost in ears • In Ear #10 Hear and Co...
#11 Compare in ear outputs with music • In Ear #11 Compare In ...
#12 Belt pack test with pink and pulse • In Ear #12 - Belt Pac...
#13 Minimizing impact of companders • In Ear #13 - Minimizin...
#14 Shure PSM 1000 pilot tone vs high frequencies • In Ear #14 - Shure PSM...
$2000 vs $38 in ears • $2000 vs $38 In-Ear Mo...
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@djjazzyjeff1232 2 года назад

I've used SE215s for almost 10 years at this point, I've tried Shure's more expensive models like the 425s and 535s but they were too shrill and harsh sounding to me. Yes they were more "clear" I suppose, but the 215s were just smoother sounding, and I really value that especially when you're doing a long show and you're going to be listening to them for hours n hours straight. I cannot complain at all. Also, I do not use custom tips, I use the standard medium sized foam, but I have bandmates who prefer the rubber tips, one who prefers the yellow "pool noodle foam" (for lack of a better term) tips, and they all love them. Bottom line is, you can't go wrong with the 215s, and you don't NEED to pony up for custom ear moulds in my opinion, if you don't like the "stock" tips, and you do some searching around you can certainly find ones that you'll like.

@DaveRat 2 года назад

I think one of the big differences with the higher end in-ears is the clear low frequencies and improved isolation for room sounds. But that said, for many applications the 215s are plenty good

@jimmie999999999 6 месяцев назад

not sure how well i can guage true diffs here, but Dave... you are THE man ! i love your constant experimenting and questioning. the industry is rife with experts. we need more thought experimenters like you in our world!

@danielgrubb9496 Год назад

Thanks for this content dude. You are the real deal. Been hunting good affordable inears and this was really helpful.

@DaveRat Год назад

👍👍👍

@peehandshihtzu 2 года назад

Interesting, that mid response is drastically different, also the way they express differing levels of depth is very unexpected. Great video Dave, Thank You. :)

@DaveRat 2 года назад

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@JohnvL 2 года назад

4:10 quote: "oké, those are fairly different". Hahahahaha LOL 😂

@DaveRat 2 года назад

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@jerssongeovanicarralesreyn7126 Год назад

So cool, Dave!

@DaveRat Год назад

🤙🤙🤙

@vanderhooftamvl6587 2 года назад

I absolutely loved my IE4’s. Used them for everyday listening, playing on stage, and even sometimes do a little pro tools mixing on them. After I lost them I got the IE40’s, they are great imo too. Sound way better than the SE215 imo

@DaveRat 2 года назад

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@MrThacke 2 года назад

Yeah, I fixed the sub-bass to bass issues with electrostatics and put Dynamics, Punch, and Slam in electrostatics that edge the market beyond planar snd bio-drivers! Lol! I don’t believe the SBA is terribly set to give anybody a loan today lol! I don’t have 15 grand for patent and even if I did I would need a clone proxy who lives in the court system. All I can say is who wants to do business making the best audio reproduction equipment ;-)

@NASCARandcheese1 2 года назад

Please test more low cost iems! These videos are incredibly interesting! I just found your channel and I love the videos! +1

@DaveRat 2 года назад

Thank you Kanna and will do

@MrThacke 2 года назад

Absolutely agree! It’s entirely wasteworthy effort stuffing two IEMs in your ears unless monitor mix annihilating when all anybody might require is pitch, dynamics, or a trap tap to keep time. You don’t require anything audiophile for an on stage environment unless jazz trio or light sparse orchestral interludes :) Cheaps be Keepsakes on a typical electronic stage. I prefer one ear open.

@DaveRat 2 года назад

Yeah, I know quite a few musicians that prefer one ear open to be in both the in ear and stage sound environments. Makes things less touchy.

@MrThacke 2 года назад

@@DaveRat For me performing that was before all the predisposed physical misery. (1986 saw a Haunebu underground in Germany) Later, I was stupid climbing the Saw Tooth mountain range in AZ lol! To see Turkey Buzzards el naturale but perhaps see more saucer tech. and nothing seen… like there wasn’t paid stunt drivers to ensure my driving home would be interrupted.) I had been running sound for John Fiddler in Mesa then (who is an outstanding old soul bright young in spirit) I was kinda stupid chumpy then it wasn’t ego, success, or drugs, just chumped in ways of getting in my way. But yeah, like if I was in a loud Alternative Band like in KCMO I would likely go both ears either plugged or monitored. That was long ago and means nothing to anyone else lol!

@DaveRat 2 года назад

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@jdeglers 2 года назад

The CC 10's were noticeably brighter than the others. My home studio rig starts with an HP Z820, M-Audio Delta 44 PCI audio interface, Mackie Onyx 820i mixer, Marantz Legacy Series IA 2232 SB amp, and B&W 686 bookshelf speakers.

@DaveRat 2 года назад

Agreed but not a good bright. A harsh peak in HF

@DRXxUziixX95 2 года назад

is the original signal in stereo? if it is then its not a fare comparison as stereo can change the precieved loudness of some out of phase sounds like reverb etc.

@frankus54 Год назад

For hi-fidelity and clarity as a track listening monitor, I found the Audix A10's to be pretty good. I suggest underrated. Loud enough and more detail than hi-fi ear buds.

@DaveRat Год назад

🤙👍🤙

@kitsonwks Год назад

Agreed, A10's sound signature is the most neutral out of the bunch, and imaging is superb.

@DaveRat Год назад

Yeah they do sound good but they don't seal well but if there's not a lot of stage volume they would be very good

@DRXxUziixX95 2 года назад

what over ear headphones does dave use? i swear he did a video on it but i cant find it :(

@BarnabY07 2 года назад

Thanks a lot for this test. Did you tried other high end CCA in-ears ? I'm looking for a pair of CCA's which I can use for stage monitoring.

@DaveRat 2 года назад

I did not, but may dive back into in ears at some point

@benharban8545 2 года назад

I definitely like the Audix A10's and Sennheiser IE4's the best, At least listening through my Sennheiser IE40 Pro's. The sub test was a nice bonus test of the IE40 Pro's low end reproduction too.

@DaveRat 2 года назад

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@ognyankoynashki 2 года назад

There is also A10X model with extended bass with beryllium which I want to buy since they were released but the dealers which I buy from still don't have them as covid messed with prices and logistics I guess.

@DaveRat 2 года назад

Very cool, and yes, products out of stock are a big challenge.

@Motumwalaa 2 года назад

Very nice. 👍👍👍

@DaveRat 2 года назад

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@lukevlaar3286 2 года назад

Those CCAs are incredibly competent. a bit over-exaggerated in the 4-6K range but a solid second place. Audix was the best in my opinion but not by much. shure's third but not by too much and Sennheiser is dead last, far from the other pairs and not worth the price.

@DaveRat 2 года назад

I found the CCAs to be unlistenably nasaly harsh with that huge HF peak. I cant wear them even for a short while

@lukevlaar3286 2 года назад

@@DaveRat that’s really interesting to hear.

@DaveRat 2 года назад

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@HR2635 4 месяца назад

. @DaveRat ok.. strange.. to me they are pretty pleasant in the HF area... love mine for mixing and checking midrange

@johnryan9458 2 года назад

What happened to the midrange on the Audix?

@coaldust01 2 года назад

they had covid

@freemandiaz5123 2 года назад

What is safest for ear health? Cut mids? For IEMs, you mostly need the rhythm parts, right?

@DaveRat 2 года назад

Hmmm, I am not medically learned enough to answer that. But avoiding whatever makes your ears rings afterwards is probably a wise path that I can not say I have followed

@freemandiaz5123 2 года назад

@@DaveRat That's true. Don't mind hurting my ears, just don't want to hurt others. Thanks for taking the time to respond. 🤙🏼

@DaveRat 2 года назад

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@MrThacke 2 года назад

Headphones eventually cause hearing damage. So it’s best when being paid to do so, for absolute aural/mindal immersion, or an act of love. Lol!

@DaveRat 2 года назад

Life causes hearing damage as well. Like all energy related damage, intensity of the source, duration of exposure and proximity all have interested impacts.

@jamesreyes4654 2 года назад

Have you seen those kz inears that are 5 I think but it’s around 50$ I’d love to see those against the shures

@DaveRat 2 года назад

I did some tests with them as well

@markussagichnicht5494 2 года назад

I still prefer my very old / very cheap Samsung Earsbuds (that came with my Samsung S5 Phone years ago) over these Shure SE215.

@DaveRat 2 года назад

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@dlcarburetor 2 года назад

All of them so different from the original. Could really tell on the track with vocals.

@DaveRat 2 года назад

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@MrThacke 2 года назад

As far as overears I have designed an electrostatic that has more Dynamics, Punch, Slam and Clarity than any silly cone type driver.

@DaveRat 2 года назад

Electrostatics can be awesome. Though I have yet to see a pair that has good acoustic isolation so outside sound does not leak in like what pro sound engineers need and/or the sound of the headphones does not leak out and disturb people nearby. So many options with various assets and issues!

@MrThacke 2 года назад

@@DaveRat I know Dave but those problems are corrected by an inner reticulated honeycomb embossed ultra thin refillable helium bay that serves as an outer cup. Eliminates both cable and yoke noises too. The drivers solution requires business interest to reveal. Some new materials put to applications and function. I am really just attempting to establish friendships again after car wreck, 10 years of surgeries, lol! Where did everybody I knew go!? Lol! But business can be very fun too. I am using a pair of Koss EL9’s that are closed back that seal very well but I built new yokes head strap from parts of other trash phones in order to do that comfortably. Actually any geometric five color boundary map can provide the closed back design near perfect backside dipole diffusion so long as the outer and central walls (CNC or embossed) are distributed by a lens concave structure. (The inner cup, then ultra thin helium reservoir, make what you will logo upon outer cup etc.

@DaveRat 2 года назад

Good stuff, and striving for the sounds we desire that work for the application at hand is an enjoyable process

@MrThacke 2 года назад

@@DaveRat unless you’re quite lucky experimenting the unknowns is terribly arduous. I can’t say chronic intractable pain is bad or good regardless of long awake periods of weeks but checks balances are airhead anyways lol! It just messes so bad with memory and recall so phone video helps ;-)

@WaterTimeLapse 2 года назад

Is that a pono player? That plays 192khz?

@DaveRat 2 года назад

Ha, and yes!

@JohnSchumacher137 2 года назад

I take what they give me, I never get a tech rehearsal, and most vendors want to see me fail because I am union. lol... Just sayin.. I still manage no matter what crappy gear I get.

@DaveRat 2 года назад

And this is what we do to survive!!

@MrThacke 2 года назад

Lol! Truth!

@johnryan9458 2 года назад

As much a as I am a big fan of Audix mics, the Shure SE215 beats them all…Audix, please concentrate on what you do best.

@DaveRat 2 года назад

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@waldoyew4247 2 года назад

I agree I was debating between Sennheiser ie100 or shure se215 I hear the Sennheiser ie100 has better soundstage but gives a brighter sound signature and the se215 gives a warm sound signature im leaning towards the se215

@Colstonewall Год назад

Ever tried any Etymotic's? I have an old pair that sounded amazing. Still have them but they don't make the filter's for them anymore. I want to try some Shure IEM;s as well.

@Dre_13345 2 года назад

Sennhiiiieeeeeser

@DaveRat 2 года назад

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@RaymondSolo 2 года назад

Sennheisers sounded just awful! Shures where a bit improved but still not all that great. CCAs where not bad at all, better than the Shures IMHO, the Audixs had the most detail and sounded best to me.

@djjazzyjeff1232 2 года назад

I've used 215s for years, I've always found their sound super usable, it sounds kinda "mid-rangey" in this test but I mean, consider what you'll be doing with them. You'll probably be standing on a stage with guitar amps and cymbals 3 feet from your head, you're going to WANT that mid-rangey sound. I've tried a few other things, including the higher end Shure stuff and always come back to the 215s, plus there's $99, if you destroy a set, you can buy another, I mean, 100 bucks isn't "free" but it's better than replacing something in the 400-500 dollar range.

@DaveRat 2 года назад

Hmmm, the peak in the cca's was too much for me, plus I can hear the resonance of the plastic housing as well.

@RaymondSolo 2 года назад

@@DaveRat I'm just going by what I hear in my JBL - Soundcraft (just a mixer and two speakers) system that I have my computer running through. RU-vid also compresses the shite out of the content that we all upload.

@DaveRat 2 года назад

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