Siberian Finnish spoken 

I agree, this sounds like a mix of Estonian and Finnish and it's surprising how much I understood, as an Estonian. We have finally found the key to understand each other :D

Eesti is funny suomi, yy kaa Koli neli

Kuulostaa turunmurteelta ja karjalalta minun mielestä. Tosin virolla on kyllä sama aksentti, kuin turunmurteella.

​@@jussikankinen9409 yes but no - Üks kaks kolm neli.

Sounds much more like Estonian with Finnish traits. As an Estonian I can't understand Finnish, but I think I understood like 60% of this 😀

Is life even worth living if you can't go to the sauna at saturday (and wednesday too)?

@@kimmosaarinen2780 nope

Bro i was literally born in tjt year and month

It's almost completely understandable to me, a native Finnish speaker. I can't understand Estonian beyond a few words and the feeling that it sounds like I should understand it because it sounds like funny Finnish to me. Very interesting!

That's actually really interesting that speakers of both languages can understand this! And yes to me it just sounds like a weird version of Finnish where some words are not understandable.

So the Estonian and Finnish language is very similar ? This would suggest the Finnish language is very ancient and this is why these Siberian Finns and Estonians have many words in common . Thanks for your insights .

@@abeonthehill166 2000 years ago they were pretty much the same language. Apparently. Nobody can say for sure. There's a lot of similarities. The meaning of certain words can be a bit different though. Modern Estonian tends to have more words of European origin. Karelian, Ingrian, Veps and Livonian are also closely related languages, but they're not widely spoken nowadays.

Täpselt! [That's Estonian.] Exactly! They lived with many Estonians, they say. Their Finnish is very understandable to me, & yes, today's Finnish is hit & miss with us, but this sounds very familiar. Huvitav! Interesting!

voisin väittää että ukuritsat ja malinat on ainakin venäläistä alkuperää, voisin väittää että perunasta puhuvat kartoskana

almost like they speak in an estonian accent

@@user-ce6iy2nw5o No... Hehh... Maybe one could say inkeri or old Petsamo /Salla dialects.

@@ristuksenvittu Malinen is a surname in north-eastern Norway , but there pronounced "Mallinen".

I got no troubles understanding

I somehow managed to hit the algorith jackpot!

Kyllä savotta tunnetaan Kymenlaaksossakin.

@@petrikarkkainen1586 No perhana, eipä ole tullut kuultua kertaakaan täällä vähän päälle vuosikymmenen asuneena 😅 Kiitokset infosta, hyvä että säilynyt täälläkin

Lapissa kans savotta sana elää. Luulenpa että lähinnä merkityksensä takia hiipunut arkikäytöstä. Harvempi ihminen nykyään savotassa hommissa. Toki joissain murteissa sanaa käytetään puhekielessä vastineena kovalle työlle. Esim: "Oli siinä vain savottaa, mutta saatiin tehdyksi"

@@t0msula Sittenhän tuo minun alkuperänen kommentti on ihan huuhaata ja tietämättömyyttä 😅 Tuo on kyllä ihan totta, että ei sitä metsä hommia yhtä isolla kädellä tänä päivänä tehdä ellei siihen oikeen kouluttaudu. Tuo myös, kuinka sitä käytetään yleisen työn nimikkeenä oli jotain, jonka olin jo unohtanut kokonaan kunnes sanoit. Esimerkiks minulla saattaa mutsi sanoa että "olipaha savottaa" ja hää on Kymenlaaksolainen, tosin Savossa pitkään myös asunut.

​@@Joni_TarvainenSavotta on kyllä erittäin yleinen sana ympäri Suomen. En nyt äkkiä edes keksi puunkaatohommille muuta nimeä! Terveisin Oulu

Yrittää 😂 ei yritä, vaan pomottaa ja teurastaa lampaat

Iam hungarian,your text not similar. In hungarian language this " Érdekes videó!! Nagyon köszönöm! Remélem még lesz ilyen interjú.

Well Siberian Finnish is a dialect lol

I find there's a lot less postpositions than in Finnish words, words are more in their simple basic form like in Estonian. Also the order of words on sentences resembles more that of Estonian than Finnish I think (Finnish is my native, I don't know Estonian other than what I've heard).

@@Kotifilosofi There are so many siberian Finnic Peoples so saying that is generalizing. But overall there are more postpositional suffixes in Estonian and the Finno Uralic languages other than Finnish. There are also way more consonant sounds and consonant gradation is more common and more widely used.

@@tapijoz I didn't generalize anything, I just merely stated what I heard, without knowing the language and these dialects of Finnish. I doubt there is, because there's way more cases in Finnish than Estonian far as I know. For example, the suffixes of verbs in Finnish vs. Estonian. Or maybe I have false information 😅

@@Kotifilosofi I checked this and you were right, about estonian and finnish. Anyway, all the different languages should be thought about individually, because even though the languages are related, they have very different environmental influences. For example ngangasan love consonant gradation, there are so many different ones and they are thought to be germanic origin.

No tuohan on suomalaisten alkuperäinen asuinpaikka.

@@TeroVaan-hi3hr Niin on Afrikkakin

Vai olisko ollut sama kohtalo ku Baltian mailla...

Ei tainnut Venäjä valloittaa vaikka hävittiin kaksi kertaa sodassa. Mutta mikäs olisi ollut lopputulos, jos oltaisiin voitettu? Luuletko että Saksa olisi säilyttänyt Suomen itsenäisyyden?

​@@JohnDoe-ro4nf debunkattu moneen kertaan toi "afrikka teoria".

Good that you have kept the ability! If you have kids please please pass it on to them... the world gives too much pressure not to

Jännä. Kun suomlisena ymmärtää suomea, ni ei se täälläkään enää ole itsestäänselvyys

@@user-bp5ds9ff6zHei kuule…tulin tänne 8 vuotiaana ja kyllä kieli sujuu ihan okei. Siihen on nyt kulunut 46 vuotta.

@@dntskdnttllCheers! Still got it but it’s hard to teach my dog to speak Finnish, even though he understands English/Finnish.🤣No human kids thanks.🤫

@@dntskdnttllun😊

:) My grandparents from Karelian Isthmus spoke in similar way.

My grandad was from Kanneljärvi and my granmom from Uusikirkko on the Karelian Isthmus

Very similar to the old norse word for offering "blót"

@markkumanni... Mulla on samankaltainen tausta. Isovanhempani isäni puolelta olivat Suojärveltä👍🏻😊

@@jameslongstreet9259 My great grandfather and grandmother are from uusikirkko as well! pieni maailma

1992 mainittu

incest is such a beautiful thing 😊💖

Write please your english sentence please Estonian.I sent you Hungarian" Nagyon érdekes. Mint Észt a többségét nem értem"

@@endrebaracska5583 Väga huvitav. Eestlasena saan suuremast osast aru.

I speak Finnish as my mother tongue and Russian as a foreign language. I feel like their speech is a Finnish dialect with Estonian influences topped with some Russian words.

@@MyFalabella And a slight russian accent. It's confusing how the man wearing flat cap at times sounds like a native and then uses some completely foreign words.

My ancestors was born in Finland and in eastern Karelia, i was born in Siberia, buy i remember about my heritage and study finnish language.

@@yksi2883 Very nice. It is so hard to keep the culture alife in times when the young people dont care, or cannot afford to care. All the best, and peace to you

these people are also sorry that Finns leave their farms and become Anglophiles in Swedish cities

​@@yksi2883Mahtavaa

@@derkov Even if you were fried in butter...

Yes. After living around Rauma, I agree 😂.

Aika tönkkösuolattu jo.

Very true. Must be the slavic/Russian influence. Many Estonians further in the south and/or near Russia speak like this. I find it quite alien as well. Northern Estonians speak more like Finns, slower and smoother.

@@incremental_failure Interesting. I have noticed that some Estonian speakers are alot easier to understand with Finnish backround. Are there alot of dialects?

@@qwertyu600 Estonian had many dialects before but since the language standardisation, they only exist as peculiarities, no-one in a modern settings would use them. There's some still used like in Tartumaa the word "hea" is often said as "hää" or Saaremaa resisting the õ letter and using ö instead.

@@incremental_failure That's sad. :( Finland standardized their language aswell but people kept speaking their own dialects and still do to this day very strongly, alot of people do hide it though when they move to the cities but as soon as they go visit home they speak their dialect. And I'd say even that is changing and dialects are seen as more cool in the cities nowadays when before they were thought as farmer talk.

@@qwertyu600 Finland is a far bigger, more important country. In the world of globalisation, it's all getting lost though in Estonia and it's just a natural process. No point being a luddite.

impossible😂 this ain't even a language but a dialect

Mielenkiintosta kyllä miettiä että miten kauas tuokin tapa menee

Supi suomalainen siis 😅

many words they used, are used in the "Stadin slangi" the Helsinki city dialect from the earlier part of 1900's. And Karelian and Ingrian.

@@SergeyPRKL ik i've lived my whole life speaking stadin slangii

Obvious propaganda.

what do you mean they do have accent :D

@@ristusnotta1653 idk I don't speak Siberian Finnish however whenever I listen to any Russian minority language I can hear that the sounds are exactly the same as those in Russian language and if it wasn't for the fact that I could not understand a single word, I would probably not even be able to differentiate between the language and Russian. In this video however, I can clearly hear that the language does not sound like Russian at all.

@@vseslavkazakov356 well i am a Finnish speaker and that sounds exactly like what it would sound when a Russian tries to pronounce Finnish

@@ristusnotta1653 No way, man. Puppua! The man doesn't speak much but the woman certainly doesn't sound like a Russian trying to speak Finnish AT ALL. It sounds exactly like she's a native speaker of an Eastern Finnish / Karelian / border zone dialect but maybe hasn't spoken Finnish for a while.

Joo

@@Uralicchannel Kiitos vastauksesta!

Tosiasiahan on se, että suomalaisten maat on yltänyt norjan rannikoilta aina uralille asti. Voit itse päätellä loput. Jos siis kriittistä ajattelua on tänä päivänä enään pätkääkään jäljellä.

@@jiajiaoioi *Suomalais-Ugrilaisten maat, ei Suomalaisten

suosittelen lukemistoa: Vieras isänmaa INKERILÄISEN KOHTALONTIE Oskar Himiläinen

Nii

no@@SpringWaterPaul

Eikä kyllä rupliakaan ollu, ku kaikki mitä jäi yli meni armeijalle

Jep. Ei myydä. 😂

Not for long. Soviets forcibly moved them there.

I bet they are Ingrians originally.

​​​​​@@SergeyPRKLinkerin suomalaiset oli rajaseudulla asumassa, ei siperiassa. Kun nämä haastateltavat on ainakin parin polven ajan olleet tuolla. Inkeriläiset jaottuivat vasta sodan jälkeen venäjän ja suomen puolille, näiden ihmisten isovanhemmat loikkasivat venäjälle paljon ennen tätä

I guess 1990s

1992 dokumentti julkaistiin alunperin , joten varmaan 1990/1991-92 kuvattu.

Käyttää vähän väliä venäläisiä lainasanoja mutta sanovat ne suomalaisittain. Itelle särähtikorvaa ”Kasutarstva” sana. Just niiku mummo aikoinaa sen lausu 😂

They are Finns who stayed in their homes in Karelia and were sent to Siberia by Stalin, after the WW2. They are speaking some eastern Finnish dialect, but they have forgotten how to speak Finnish well.

2013 documentary, the dialect is not yet extinct

This document is from 1992

@@PetriW AFAIK only 19 individuals stayed in their homes in Karelia, so these Siberian Finns are not them. I suppose they are mainly Ingrian Finns, which were deported during Stalin's reign. Based on the video also some of the Finnish Reds, who crossed the border to Russia after 1918, also ended up in Siberia.

@@vasara2385 "Somehow convinced" = threat of occupation.

Kyllä Karjalassa vielä on suomenkielisiä ja erityisesti karjalaa puhuvia. Mutta venäläiset taitaa nykyään olla enemmistönä, etenkin kaupungeissa. Ymmärtääkseni maaseudulla puhutaan sitten enemmän karjalaa, suomea, ym. suomensukuisia kieliä.

@@sesaarinen pari mummoa siellä täällä.. se on ihan kuollut, muistaakseni 20 000 puhujaa, jotka vähenee samaa tahtia kun sotaveteraanit

i think they are originally from Karelia (east of Finland), at least the way they speak sounds like some Karelian dialect to me, there might be some Russian words added here and there too

That last guy had rather strong "Bothnic" dialect (his wife spoke something else). 5:25 "Minuu ei otettu" 5:42 "Oli niit' täälkin." 5:46 "Aina nauro sielt' että, me ollaa suomen ylirajanloikkari" 5:52 "Itte sano'vat itteen päälle" Also I have to say I can hear other kind of influences from him but mostly Bothnic. I'm from Central-Bothnia

It's like watching an old finnish movie with heavy accents. The more I watch it the clearer it becomes. I can understand pretty much everything.

It's like some older finnish dialect

Its pretty different, like that russian have fused in the finnish, but its pretty undertandable.

Veikkaampa että karkoitettu koko perhe Siperiaan sodan jälkeen

Ei nämä ole syntyneet Suomessa vaan ovat Siperiaan karkoitettujen karjalaisten jälkeläisiä. Kun Venäjä valloitti Suomen Karjalan sodassa, iso osa karjalaisista joutui Siperiaan

Inkerinmaa

@@tomsilven Voi olla

@@Telfia on. Iha selvää inkeriä.

Sana korlaka on tietämätön

@@useruser57263 Suomalaisuus ei määrity sen perusteella, onko sen eteen täytynyt tehdä jotain. Se on veressä, kielessä ja kulttuurissa. Se että te Venäjän puolella asuvat inkerinsuomalaiset puhutte eri tavalla ääntäen, kuulostaa meille siltä kuin olisitte venäläistyneitä. Siitä ei pidä tuntea syyllisyyttä, vaan päinvastoin olla ylpeä siitä, että on oma rodullinen identiteetti vielä vahvana omassa sielussa ja mielessä. Tiedän poikkeuksellisen hyvin, miten olette joutuneet kärsimään juutalais-kommunismin alla, ja miten monet teistä on tapettu täysin syyttä. Mutta voitko itse sanoa että joku inkeriä solkkaava tuttavasi ei missään nimessä ole venäläistynyt, jos hän puhuu venäjää äidinkielen tasolla ja inkeriä/suomea huonosti ja paksulla venäläisellä aksentilla? En koskaan tule antamaan anteeksi Neuvostoliitolle tai kommunisteille, jotka saivat kylmäveriset kansanmurhat kansojamme kohtaan aikaan, siksi itse taistelenkin Suomessa oman kansani jatkuvuudesta hamaan ikuisuuteen. Tämä tarkoittaa kulttuuri-marxismin heikentämistä kaikilla rintamilla ja nationalismin kasvattamista joka puolella. Toivon teillekin vain parasta, ja toivon että vahvistatte identiteettiänne niin paljon, että teidän lapsenlapsennekin tietävät tarkalleen, mitä kansaa ovat. Toivon että kansanne kokee uuden kevään, kansannousun, jolloin elvytätte itsenne uuteen loistoon.

@@Zombiripuli hi! Just noticed that when it comes to soviets you think very similar to us ukrainians who are aware of russian colonization on our land. I hope we all (post-soviet countries) will live without russian imperialism someday and don't have to worry about our identities ever again! :)

@@useruser57263 How I agree with you! Therefore, as a Russian Finn, I stopped dreaming that Finland would help the Karelians and Russian Ingrians. No, they won't help. We are enemies for them. Karelians, Inkeriläiset and Veps will have to fight for their own identity. Without Finns.

@@vlmr4112 The Karelians, the Vepsians and the Ingrian are no longer physically there, their languages ​​have been lost.

Backward but sent human to space. Embrace backwardness

@@user-ir4bj4tj3t no bloody use to the poor people with no infrastructure

@@user-ir4bj4tj3t Progress for me, not for thee. Or however it went

They might also be more isolated from the rest of Russia? At least that would've helped them to preserve the language

@@user-ir4bj4tj3t The space arms race destroyed communism by bankrupting them trying to outcompete the free world. Especially SDI was ingenious on Reagan's part. Russians did try to compete though, but at the cost of things like food and basic stuff for the people, which commies never valued anyway, and still don't. The people will starve rather than letting some abitious goal of the communist leaders fall back.