FrightfulAccountant no way does it shoot better then a Beretta I have shot both a Beretta and a Sig the Beretta has little to no muzzle flip and slide moves back smoothly after shooting Sig being it's on a high axis is harder to shoot accurately and plus it's so bulky on the slide lots of mass
Chris and my friend Mike Gun Range Shooting and idk what youre on about accuracy but my sig p226’s are ungodly accurate, and especially with little to no muzzle rise on followup shots.
6 лет назад
Beretta shoots better, no contest.
6 лет назад
You're nuts. SIG has higher bore axis, noticeably more flip than a Beretta. Ask ANY shooter. Beretta has larger sight radius and 1/2 longer barrel so more accurate too.
Great info. Just picked up the West Germany P226 to go with my New USA made P226. They are both my best shooting and favorite guns now. Im going to leave mine as original condition. Got the case and manual with 2ea 10 round mags. Subbed
I enjoyed your video very much. I recently acquired a German 226 (not as pretty as yours) and decided to send it to Sig for the upgrades. I liked the X-ray sights and the springs didn’t matter to me one way or the other until I found the correct checkered grips for it. I had to grind a relief on the inside right panel to clear the new spring. I thought I had the wrong grips until I watched your video and you showed the differences in design. Thanks for showing that.
You left out some things in your post the 1987 p226 had what is called mud rails, which are relief cuts in the slide supposedly to clear out debris, they were only made in 86 and 87, the design changed in 88 and newer models, it is said that these mud rail model's were not as robust as later 226's and may have cracking issues with extensive shooting or hotter loadings, most changes occurred in 1988 model including thicker width trigger guards, which could be why your have a problem putting your older slide on newer model, i can inter change slides, barrels, springs between my 1989 and 2000 models and probably most other parts too.
Thanks new here even though it’s four year old video... own an early 220 love it . Yes not touching a thing ... crazy so old and I’d carry it , or even leave it bed side . Says a lot for Sig ... thanks again
Thanks for making this video. I have a 226 that I bought in 2003 from an estate sale. Its parts are a mix between your two guns. Older sights on the new style slide. New style grips. Old style decocking lever, old style mag release, new style smooth trigger. Old style large trigger guard. New style hammer. Frame says "made in Germany" and it says "Sigarms Inc Exeter NH" on it. Frame is smooth with no mounts. And so on. The serial number starts with U652.... I called up Sig and they said they don't have records for German made guns. If you have any info about mine, I'd appreciate it!
Really cool vid! You and I have a couple of firearms in common- in fact, within a couple thousand units similar! One thing I noticed is that the feed ramp on Your W. German is eliptical at it's start, Mine was machined in one groove, all the way down to the bottom of the body. However, it is also a visibly different geometry to the Barrel out of Your Mk 25. Neat stuff.
The paint on the spring is to differentiate the spring weights. My 9mm has an orange spring, while my 40SW has a green spring. I believe the 357Sig also uses the green spring.
Good vid and thanks for sharing. One clarification I'll add - slides stamped "W. Germany" continued to be used after the 1990 Reunification Treaty was signed, up until 1995. The German government allowed W. German manufacturers to continue to use this distinguishing detail on a variety of manufactured goods for a 5-year period. So a Sig stamped with "W. Germany" could have been made up until Oct. of 1995.
When did the cases change? I remember buying my first 226 around 94 (but I can't remember when it was proofed) and it had the cardboard box with foam inside. I traded it (like a fool). I then purchased another in '95 and it had the plastic case. The '95 is Kiel proofed. I just wonder if I traded away a 'W' gun? When did the W start getting stamped, and then eventually removed?
I have the German P226 in 40 S&W and I fuckin love it. Durable as all hell and very clean. Got it in awesome condition for $400 even and fell in love. My 9mm and .380 are great as well but there's no denying my P226 is my favorite.
Weren't the Beretta slide issue's taken care of some 30 years ago? Still talking about soldiers eating Italian steel? Archives must be making a comeback.
I am curious, it seems like there's an item you neglected to mention but I'm not sure. It seems like in the video that the newer Sig has some form of captured mainspring housing where's the other older one has no shroud around the main spring. is that something specific to that one gun or is that a difference between the older and newer.
Your Article on is my Sig a German Sig got me here…. Edit could be needed to add the E26-9-BSS-GER model that came in around 2011. Supposedly only 500 made it in.
When I bought my W. German p226 a week ago, I thought someone had never cleaned it and it was packed full of gunk, until I realized it was actually lubed with grease instead of gun oil. Looking for thoughts on this, should I continue to use gun grease or use gun oil in it? I was always told to use gun oil because grease will attract dirt and build up carbon and gun powder but not sure on the older model sigs. Didnt come with a manual
Use grease, at least on the rails. A light film on the sliding surfaces is enough for shooting, maybe the previous owner packed it with grease for storage to prevent corrosion. I only use grease on my P228. I feel like it stays and provides a lubricating film longer than oil. You dont have to buy some fancy gun grease, quality bearing grease will do just fine and is less expensive.
Also if you email Sig they will send you an owner's manual free or you can download a pdf from their online website. Here is the link scroll and find your particular model and read up on these wonderful personal defense tools. www.sigsauer.com/support/owners-manuals/ Cheers.
Hey Steve What kind of round count would estimate the kind of wear from the trigger bar spring like on yours? Is that something that shows itself after a couple thousand rounds? The reason I ask is because I just picked up a '88 P226 and the only wear I have in that area is a little forward and a little down from yours and it is very little. My rails are show very little wear and the only real wear is on the barrel finish which I'm guessing shows up pretty quick. I paid on the higher end for mine but I think it is pretty low round count and overall very nice shape. I estimate somewhere around 1500 rounds through it. Thanks
IT is not a LEgend the Beretta 92 had an issue with the BAT 9mm +P+ ammo that the SEALs used at the time and the Beretta slided CRACKED right at the Locking Block area of the Slide because of that reason Beretta Redesigned the 92 and came out with the Brigadier Model.
Also When west Germany ended and Germany United east and west , west German gun manufacturers were allowed 5 years to still mark “west German “. So therefore it is possible to have a west German Sig that was made in Germany.
Hey, hows it going. I just picked up a W German Sig p226 (I have a newer model as well) Did you wind up changing the grips and trigger bar spring on the older model? Kinda worried about that spring/frame wear.
+Andrew Broussard Nice! I love the 1980s W German 226s. I wouldn't worry too much. I kept the stock grips and the stock trigger bar spring... though I MAY eventually change the trigger bar spring. I like the idea of keeping this one as original as possible.
Q) Its that a stamp on the right hand side in front of the SN# where the front corner of trigger guard meets the frame? I have a JJ ('84 i think) with the same marking and I can't tell if it was a stamp/chip/corrosion etc. When I saw yours was the same, I felt a bit better. thoughts?
+indskab It has. There is internal safety that prevents firing pin from moving, unless trigger is fully pressed. P226 is not intended to be carried hammer cocked, so long double action trigger acts as safety by itself.
6 лет назад
Reliability =/= safety. Reliability refers to dependability, safety is an entirely different issue. If YOU need a safety on your firearm then you really don't need a firearm ... the safety is supposed to be in your brain!!
Yep. The G19 is a reliable and proven platform, but what likely sealed the deal on the switch is that they are cheaper to purchase and maintain. The P226 had a great run with Naval Special Warfare, and now it's Glock's turn. I'll be interested to see if Glock makes a special version based on NSW requirements, such as phosphate coating on internals, etc. Though there are so few metal parts on a Glock compared to the P226, so it may just be simpler (cheaper?) to replace metal items in the gun frequently vs. Glock adding a special coating process to the G19 "SEAL Edition." Or will they call it the Glock 19 MK26?
+Kevin Greenleaf The Glock 19 has not "replaced" the P226 MK 25. It only took 28 years for the Glock 19 to be added to their arsenal. SEALs select their own choices for each mission based on their personal assignment. P226 will still be carried by most I'll bet. If you think these guys just randomly and easily jump into changing what they've been using, you're mistaken.
6 лет назад
Exactly. The Glocks are going on the shelf in the armory. SEALS carry P226s or whatever else they want.
