Sigma 70-200mm f/2.8 DG DN 'Sports' lens review 

That's what I want to!

That video is needed…

I saw a comparison with the Tamron 70-180 G2. And I like Tamron better in terms of bokeh and depth of the picture, it gives depth and plasticity to the photos. The bokeh of Sigma is too crystalline like taken with an iPhone.

I just got this lens in yesterday, and I am not seeing this ghosting so far.

Not gonna happen in the near future, unless it is super expensive

@@tomvarghese7014 Apsc and f1.8 zoom is nearly impossible probably.

@@kamilpotato3764 I think he is talking about something like the 18-35m f1.8 that we had for DSLR

@@Thefuror38500 as the one who use 18-35F1.8. it's unreal enough they can make that for dslr ten years ago. I think if they want, they can do smth much better in MRL now like 15-35F1.8, 18-50F1.8, 15-50F1.8 or even 18-50F1.4 (all are apsc user wet dream lmao) But at that price point of those ultimate lenses, we probably just go FF and 24-70F2.8 and call it a day.

@@Thefuror38500ye that’s the one, and the 50-100mm f/1.8 I feel like I’ve heard people say it’s easier to design lenses for mirrorless and that they can be smaller, so maybe smaller versions of those

I'm also torn between this lens and the Tamron 70-180. Same price, but different pros and cons.

If weight is a big factor then the Tamron is an easy choice. The benefit of the Sigma is the build quality but it definitely adds weight.

I have the Tamron 70-180 and preordered this one. For context, I use that lens on wedding days and it stayed on my camera most of the time. The seals on it are awful same with built quality, It feels like cheap plastic and scratches easier than anything else I ever had from sigma, sony or nikon. I have had two of them and both have an unusual amount of dust inside them within a month or two so I don't think its a sample variance. I am very careful, lens caps go on both ends and all are cleaned prior to being put on, and have never had this many dust particles work their way in even in non-internal focusing lenses. While it is small and light, I don't think they are great build quality so i would encourage you to reconsider how important the size and weight i vs the cost of having it taken apart and cleaned frequently. EDIT: Funny enough I was looking at he price of what to sell mine for on amazon Canada, and if you look at the review photos you will see how bad the dust gets... Its actually quite impressive....

@@EugeneKam dust problem huh. Had the 24-70, 28-70, 100-400 and 150-600. Also some old ones like 24-105 for ef...etc. ALL have had terrible dust problems. Significantly worse than any Tamron or any other brands I had. Now, this one is internal zoom so I hope you get lucky but just don't be surprise if dust do get in. Sigma seal is a joke in general. If you want quality you really should just get the sony gm. even the gen 1 is more solid than w/e this is. As for image quality...we all know they are all good enough for w/e you do.

@@gelade had used sigma in pouring rain for days on end in London, and use them regularly for weddings here in Canada and from my experience, I never had dust or seal issues in any of them, zoom or art primes. I tried the I rented both Sony v1 and v2 before and loved the v2 for the lightness and speed, but given the price and early reviews the sigma seems to be pretty good. Got mine on preorder already. :)

I asked Sony, and their PR team sent me the f/4 version by mistake! I'll be requesting it again some time

@@christopherfrost great thanks, I do use your videos to benchmark all lenses before purchase

And why would that even be a comparison to make? Doesn’t make sense at all. Compare lenses that are available on the same system. Sir

Right now I'm using Nikon I'm thinking of changing my system I don't know whether to go to Canon or Sony

It's up!

Canadian price is $2099. This is a very tempting proposition with the current Sony equivalent coming in at $3500. Even the version I Sony is still $2500. I’m considering preordering this Sigma to upgrade from my Sony 70-200 f4 (version 1) after seeing your positive impressions here. Cheers for the review.

What is your favourite Sigma lens?

@@HexPortal105mm f/1.4

You're saying the Tamron 70-200 2.8 VC USD G2 is sharper at 200mm F2.8? I find that hard to believe. Which test chart are you looking at for comparison and was the old Tamron tested on a 42 MP camera? As that will make a difference, especially if what you're using for comparison is a test done on a lower MP camera for the Tamron G2. You're right about the weight though, it's a bit disappointing that Sigma couldn't get closer to 1kg, that said 1.35kg isn't soo bad and it looks like it's well built.

@@TheDka1 Have you noticed that the center of the 200 mm focal length at F2.8 is the weakest point of the new Sigma? The same time 200 mm at F2.8 is the strongest point of the Tamron from 2012. There are many cameras for testing with 45 mpx sensors, so you can check it for yourself.

@ Ok, but the reason I'm asking is because you said "Tamron from 2012 (VC) is sharper then this lens @ 200 mm and F2.8. 200 mm focal length" - this is a definitive statement and usually would be qualified by at least using a comparison of the two lenses at the same resolution. So I don't really need to check it for myself; I'm asking if you used/found such a comparison (at the same, or at least similar resolution) to come to this conclusion, yes or no?

this, canon pls open rf to 3rd parties

I think it's a high order for Canon. Just like Panasonic who stubbornly defend their dfd for years before slapped by reality.

I'm happy with my EF version 2 that cost more than half that one (used), but having that extra option on RF would indeed be awesome

@@Durio_zibethinus When did Panasonic do this? They have always had Olympus lenses on M43 and the L mount has had Leica and Sigma lenses the whole time.

I just admit APS-C quality will always be slightly worse. Lenses are designed for Full-Frame and if "razor sharp" will perform well on APS-C. If they show lack of sharpness on Full-Frame, APS-C will definitely amplify the issues.

@@JaySilva88 that seems to be the pattern. But theres not a lot of fast telephoto lenses for Sony apsc so it helps a lot for reviewers to show the image test for apsc. Helps a lot in considering our options when we’re looking at FF lenses too

Me too

Yeah I thought the same about the screw in the hood…it’s a great way to mark up lens 😢

Most definitely

And add the Sony 70-200 f4 "macro" in for good measure

So get the Sony one

What for? This one works on both!

@@JaySilva88 aps-c dedicated lenses tend to be a lot smaller and therefore cheaper tho.

@@JaySilva88 18 - 105 f2.8

@@JaySilva88 70 -200 @ $1500 is not in an affordable range at the moment for enthusiasts.

Zeiss 135mm prime f2 certainly more sharp and 1 stop faster. It's not a substitute, but a more versatile lens. If you're shooting an environment that is moving, like a wedding reception, 70-200 will give you extra space for tight spaces and extra reach for compression. Otherwise your lens is much better for portrait, subject isolation and low light.

Thanks so much for your support!

The Sony is legendary, get it It's amazing :)

The Sony GM ii is legendary, get it :)

Yes and even better for portraits.

Nikon F? Mate, that's dead. You either look for something you can adapt or adapt yourself and upgrade the body to a Z mount.

@@JaySilva88 Did Nikon officially announce the death of F? Like many, I have a lot of F lenses... not going to start from scratch with Z. :(

The reason I test at 42MP is because it's a happy medium between 24MP and 61MP, and it also makes test results more comparable to the 45MP sensors of Canon and Nikon FF cameras.

@@christopherfrostAlso saves some money

Are you subscribed to his Patreon? Have you made or consider making a monetary contribution? Maybe donate him the A7RV so he can do the tests you'd like to see? People really like to demand things without thinking how much they cost, as if RU-vid pays thousands each month enough to buy all the latest gear...

@JaySilva88 Truth be told, the request is not for me personally since I'm using APSC, but I see how many lenses are falling apart on the edges of the crop sensor that hold up pretty well on the 44MP. I like to advertise him on Reddit, where I tend to give plenty of advice to people. That's my contribution.

@christopherfrost I see your point, and I was already suspecting that. Looking at the APSC results and how many lenses start to fall apart in the edges, which still look fine on the 42MP sensor, my impression is that this compromise might not work that well. Is there no chance to ask Sony for a contribution? After all, you are featuring their bodies in every video, and as it currently stands, you are doing that for bodies that they don't sell anymore. Should be a clear win for them to provide you with their newest models.

Because 200mm and sharper

the extended lens while zooming, no apeture ring, no arca swiss tripod mount. Just because you don't need it doesn't say there is no market for it. We own a couple of Sigmas (24-70 dg dn also a great lens) so this will fit in nicely

Mostly for durability being internal zooming with better build quality. Other than that there isn't much reason considering how much they improved the IQ of the G2 and that both can't be used with tele converters.

Internal zooming made it more expensive but still demanded in dusty and sandy areas.

Tamron is not nearly as sharp

A5100 is still a nice camera minus the hotshoe. Sigma lenses for sony apsc is small and cheaper overall.

I only use the a5100 for resolution tests at ISO 100. All the rest of my testing is done on the a7R III. Why would I get an a6700 just for resolution tests?

You've got to love gearheads who think you always need the latest and greatest for everything

@@christopherfrost some people think one can have all the gear they want for free, or that RU-vid pays so well you can buy every new camera. They also fail to realise that nowadays new camera sensors have little impact on image quality and it's the processing power, autofocus and other features that makes it worth upgrading camera body. If you're doing a IQ test at ISO100 under controlled conditions a5100 vs a6700 makes no difference.

​@@JaySilva88wedding gigs always challenging with gearhead guest meddling around 😂