Signature elements of 6.0-Era skaters! (some competed in both 6.0 and IJS but I associate them more with 6.0 so that's why they're here) I will keep working on more of these videos so let me know who else you'd like to see!
Billy Bop On YT Dear Billy, if you didn’t know: Lucinda really got serious head problems because her spins are too fast and hard even for figure skaters. But anyway she created more than 20 new spins and influenced to standards of spins at competitions.
Found myself saying yup to a lot of these. Poor Midori and Surya who predates the current scoring system. Then again, the 6.0 system resulted in some beautiful skating like Michelle and Sasha.
Lizzie Paulin it’s Scott Hamilton and he did a lot of commentary after his Olympic gold in 84. He talks about the skaters’ skills and not their dresses like another male US commentator does.
Lucinda Ruh has other types of amazing spins and got the Guiness record for the most continuous spins (105) on one foot . She is the fastest spinner on ice in the world ever clocking at six rotations a second and created over twenty different new spin positions now required at competitions. Unfortunately she got some health problems due to the speed of spins.
Concussions were primarily results of brain acceleration/deceleration from falling on ice from failed jumps. The spins MAY have exacerbated these, rather than arising from spinning. controlled experiment would be unethical. But consider that sudden deceleration has been the major factor in all concussions. I notice that she did hold her hand before her eyes to prevent disorientation during some forms of spin. In ballet (Lucinda was a student at RBC) spinning is controlled through spotting the movement of head lagging and anticipating the facing of a turn's finish, and is easily changeable in accomplished dancers, when a person does 14-17 pirouettes, some considerable acceleration occurs, and no brain trauma has been recorded. , and in some inverted sports, minutes can elapse - the system has evolved blood pressure variance protections, and spinning as trauma is FAR less likely than insufficiently healed concussion from mackerel-slapping on ice. Speculation by those not intimately familiar with all or any of this, is unwarranted.
Michelle Kwan's spirals were nice, but her overall fluidity and ease was so beautiful to watch. I always felt calm after watching her. In fact if I think of it when I've had a bad day now and again - I'll watch some of her performances to relax me! Try it!
God I love Yagudin. His step sequences were just so unique and entertaining. I love step sequences that keep me engaged and mesmerized. This isnt the case for many skaters...but some skaters these days have these "safe" sequences which are just so bland and the same old stuff. They're still good and go with the music...but you dont feel mesmerized.
Tonya Harding: • First American woman to land a triple axel in competition. • The first woman ever to land a triple axel in a short program. • The first woman ever to land a triple axel in combination. • The first woman ever to land 2 triple axels in the same competition. • The first woman to gain a 6.0 for technical merit (in the USA). Let’s never forget that. Thank you for mentioning her, great video!
Agree. very talented ,But let's keep in mind ,she was also The 1st women in the history of the sport to create damage that she did . That alone is what she will always be remembered by . If your going to give facts ,Please give all the facts . What she accomished with her skating ability is amazing YES, but the damage she done to another skater is unsportman ,and unlady like . no excuses.
jakobi black She did what? She was abused, attacked, denigrated, hurt, destroyed, molested... She never did nothing to be ashamed off. Yes she committed mistakes just like any other human does. If you mean what happened with Kerrigan, let me tell you something: WAS JEFF WHO DID EVERYTHING. NOT TONYA! Get over it.
@@davejimenez3884lol so you decided to Google and and look at the documentary 😂. yet when the incident happened back in 1992 I was there to see the situation happen . Of course everyone has a story , that does not give you the right to PLAN an attack on someone . Her and Jeff were dating at the time so she was apart of the situation and planned the entire thing . You sound stupid as fuck trying to take up for a no body who will always be remembered for being a complaining,problematic skater and who attempted to cheat her way into a medal at the Olympics and it did not work . take your excuses somewhere else .I was there in person when the incident happened while you most likely weren't even born "BASIC". take your noneductaed ass somewhere else next time you attempt to give facts .
@@jblackinc Aha! You was there in person in the place when Nancy been attacked of Jeff!!! Why you was there? Why you did nothing to rescue Nancy in the situation? I guess! You're talking bullshit! 😂😂😂👎
@@jblackinc it doesn't matter how excellent a skater is, there is always someone trying to destroy him or her so that someone else can shine. What happened to Tonya was terrible: she was just as victim as was Nancy. As a skater, Tonya cared for nothing else but her own training and she was brilliant on the ice, at least much better than Nancy. I wonder what people would feel if they found out that the whole thing was originally planned by Nancy ... (who was the nastier person one could meet)
Great video! With Sasha, it’s the fan spiral in particular that I think of. That and her I-spin. For Michelle, I would include the falling leaf too-the double falling leaf at the end of her Scheherazade program still gives me goosebumps! Nancy Kerrigan’s iconic spiral, Mishkutienok and Dmitriev’s signature pair spin, Brian Boitano’s still unmatched spread eagle and his ‘tano lutz. So many good ones to choose from!
Sasha’s swan lake is forever one of my favourite programs of all time. Just exquisite. Hadn’t found any similar spark like that until i got to watch yuzuru hanyu. Just ethereal beauty.
@Yuzutea thank you for including Lucinda Ruh. I feel like a lot of people either don't know about her or have forgotten her which is a real shame because her spins and artistry are insanely good.
I saw Lucinda Ruh live at 1996 world’s in Edmonton. In her practice sessions, even the other top skaters and coaches would stop to watch her spin. Everyone was in complete awe! Spins are so much harder than jumps, fewer people do them well and they deserve much higher credit than they get.
Yagudin's step sequences were so impressively done & choreographed and I'm so old that I STILL remember them from that 2000s era, I was watching them on TV back then. xD
She made those high a' la seconde moves beautifully, while up THROUGH this moment, the quasi-MMA kicks done instead to attempt to garner points without grace or musical/ dance value remain sucky, when performed by most. Talk about something that SHOULD be downgraded when ugly - n fall is as bad to view as those kicks, and only the not-yet extinct choreographer penchant for males to hold splayed hands near head as if suffering headaches comes near in ugliness.
I hate to admit this but I stopped watching figure skating (religiously... ) when Michelle Kwan stopped skating... I'm still heart broken over her not being able to compete at Torino... I really wanted her to have the Olympic trilogy of medals but I did get to see her skate live ... she is even more amazing to see in person.... she took you places with her skating... there really isn't a female skater that does that... but I also haven't watched any skating since the 2018 Olympics >.
@@thegutlesswarrior9488 your comment has truly touched my heart . I agree with you 125% .when Michelle stopped skating I lost interest , not just her but many other skaters during her time as well as before her time . peggy, Dorothy, scott, timothy, Sarah, Kristi, todd, the list goes on and on . but Michelle truly took you to another place when she skated .
Nobody has ever gotten close to duplicating Sasha Cohen's spirals; my later father would cry when he watched them. But since the ISJ, there's no reason to work on spirals simply because there are not enough ISJ points to make them worth the practice. But if they were a required element, I think the Russian ladies, especially Shcherbakova and Valieva, could look just as spectacular as Cohen did.
I'VE BEEN SAYING THIS. Everyone stops talking about her at the triple axel. Look at the quality of her Lutz! No woman since has done as big and steady of a Triple Lutz like her. Look at the quality of her layback spin!!! She had the best layback of her time! But everyone only wanted to see the 3A. They ought to have looked deeper. She had so many other talents. She was of the highest caliber in so many aspects in the sport, she just didn't do emotional programs and got pigeonholed for ONE jump in her arsenal.
Steve B thank you! Yes a lot more to her skating than just the triple jumps. I mean I get it that’s what people would talk about but they should include her layback spin, spins in general and Ina Bauer
I know right! It always keeps me on the edge-- you'd really expect her to fall! Hers is my favorite; such a shame she didn't get to do more 3As in her career.
I applaud you for including Tanya Harding. Whatever she may or may not have been accused of, it shouldn't take away from the fact that she was a very strong and athletic skater and the 1st woman to complete the triple lutz in competition :))
It would be good if you could go back even further to include the artistry of John Curry and Toller Cranston, the spins of Denise Bielmann, the effortless flow over the ice and step sequences of Robin Cousins, the dynamism of Elvis Stojko, the Tano Lutz of Brian Boitano, the one man death spiral of Charlie Tickner - I'm sure there are many more.
Maria Butyrskaya - both legs camel spin, scratch spin with both hands behind her back, combination spin, triple lutz, triple loop, triple toe-half loop-triple salchow, forward approach double axel Shizuka Arakawa - ina bauer, catch foot spirals with realesing the blade, triple, triple, triple Evgeni Plushenko - quad toe, triple toe,triple.loop, triple axel-triple flip, biellman spin Ilia klimkin - camel.spin into the triple salchow, cantilever
I think Lucinda Ruh's spins are out of this world. I don't think people appreciate how hard it is to spin and not travel in that spin. She is pretty much dead center with minute travel depending on the spin. That last pancake spin into shotgun spin then catching the foot on the last rotation is amazing!
It’s not a backbench Ina Bauer. It’s a layback that just blows the mind. I used to do a backbend, but just not on skates. I actually shouldn’t have done that in gymnastics because it nearly destroyed my spine. I ended up with spinal stenosis after getting hit by a car in 1999. Carrying a heavy backpack in Canada aggravated it. So I can only watch athletes do the laybacks, but to never attempt it myself.
I was so happy to see you include Surya and Lucinda... both I think were under-rated in their time... especially Surya... omfg she was truly gifted and totally robbed.... if the current system had been in place during her time things would have turned out differently... and NO ONE has a more AWESOME move than Suyra because I have yet to see another skater attempt it!
Surya was technically flawless, but her programmes were not really artistically beautiful to watch, in my opinion. She did - in my opinion - not "feel" the music. She then lost sympathy with me when she refused an award ceremony (where she "only" came second or third). That was absolutely out of line!
I appreciate you giving ideas for the next video on what to include, great recommendations I must say. But why couldnt you have put these in one comment instead of spamming the comments? Its very immature and annoying. Putting them in one comment would have been more formal and easyier
How about Toller Cranston's russian splits and his own Toller camel (early 80's pro competitions)? And Tiffany Chin's Illusion spin? (1986 worlds); Denise Biellmann's own biellmann spin; tano lutz and rippon lutz; Caroline Zhang's pearl spin ? Robin Cousins' lefty outside camel ; Linda Fratianne's cannon ball sit spin; kay thompson's thopmson spin; and Stephane lambiel's variation on the sit spin. Those were outstanding signature elements, all worth our appreciation.
Thank you, lovely Irina, for daring to do the (now very low scored) scratch spin! Ruh spun so fast they should have given her some kind of award! Midori - such a pioneer. And Alexi’s footwork is just exquisite! Surya was a rebel, and I love her for it. Still think she should have been the 93 World Champ. Sasha is as flexible as Gumby (but much prettier). Tonya, you still have my respect as a skater, despite the Kerrigan thing. And who doesn’t love the Hamill Camel and Tara’s pure joy! Y’know, if they insist on skaters do harder and harder jumps (and more of them) to win, why not award a medal for the various elements? One for jumps, spins, footwork, etc. Seems only fair. Then they could have an all around medal. Because many great jumpers are not fantastic spinners or have particularly good footwork or flexibility. Or musicality. If you go out and hit all the toughest jumps but the rest of your program is so-so, 9 out of 10 times you win. Skating is NOT all about jumping. And skaters who are tops at other elements should be rewarded. I love your channel - just subscribed!
How about a video of underrated skaters that no one has heard of: Robert Wagenhoffer, Rory Flack, Allen Schramm, Gary Beacom, Jozef Sabovcik, Tiffany Chin, Nicole Bobek, Chen Lu...
Seggestions for Part 3: Brian Joubert- footwork sequence Stephane Lambiel- spins Alissa Czisny- spins Carolina Kostner- speed Scott Hamilton- back flip and dancing Jason Brown- split jump and flexibility
Es muy raro ver patinadoras como Sacha Cohen, esa elegancia y poder de interpretación. Me encantaba verla hacer el layback porque me recordaba a las bailarinas de las cajitas musicales.
You could have added the “Tano Lutz” from Brian Boitano. . . . Or Denise Biellmann herself doing her signature spin. . . . Perhaps Philippe Candeloro doing his “knee spin.” . . . Or Gary Beacom who could do single jumps in both directions!
I definitely like more the 6.0 era, however from the current era I love that they allow in competition contemporary songs with lyrics Please do more video separated from eras. Why don’t you do. Videos comparing spins from the 6.0 vs the current era. One question the 6.0 era that I identified i like better is that it’s official name
are step sequences like alexei does at 3:30 particularly difficult? i've never skated myself but i do like to watch and im trying ot get more into the technical side of things. it certainly seems impressive to me but i dont know much, lol
