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SILENCE OF THE LAMBS - Buffalo Bill and the pathology of identity transformation 

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Buffalo Bill and the pathology of identity transformation. film analysis by Rob Ager.

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@doncoyote68
@doncoyote68 4 года назад
Lecter doesn't seem to want to turn into someone else, it's more like he wants to turn other people into himself.
@robinblankenship9234
@robinblankenship9234 4 года назад
Don Coyote Yes; in an extremely literal sense.
@d0omsd4y
@d0omsd4y 3 года назад
wasn't his goal to brainwash Clarice into thinking that she is Mischa? like... his sister? I mean I'm talkin' from the book's perspective, his goal was to make Clarice think she's Mischa but failed because Clarice was too strong mentally or smth and idk he kinda had a soft spot for her at some point I guess? lol my brain is just mixing the movies with the books haha
@chilliecheesecake
@chilliecheesecake 3 года назад
Yes.... devouring them until theres nothing left of them but himself.
@sderoski1
@sderoski1 3 года назад
He wants a conversation with someone who isn't completely dwarfed by his intellect, Clarice is the closest he has found, can you imagine him in a session with Buffalo Bill, who like most serial killers really isn't very bright
@redleader4876
@redleader4876 3 года назад
100th like and 5gh rplcomemnt ?
@buffalobill524
@buffalobill524 6 лет назад
I just like girls
@davidsirmons
@davidsirmons 6 лет назад
is it weird that I heard that in his voice? is it weirder that I can actually emulate his voice?
@leliofirefly
@leliofirefly 6 лет назад
size 14 girls
@HoboJIm117
@HoboJIm117 6 лет назад
low effort 0/10
@freddykrueger4631
@freddykrueger4631 6 лет назад
Me too, Bill. Me too.
@natmcg3603
@natmcg3603 6 лет назад
davidsirmons I read that and I heard it to and went to look at the replies and saw yours😂
@matthewalexanderlemma8000
@matthewalexanderlemma8000 6 лет назад
"The Silence of the Lambs" is one of those brilliant, all-time great movies that would not be made today.
@MrDman21
@MrDman21 6 лет назад
Agreed, it would piss off the LGBTQs too much.
@matthewalexanderlemma8000
@matthewalexanderlemma8000 6 лет назад
MrDman21 Gays were even super angry about this film upon its early-'90s release. Same went for "JFK" and "Basic Instinct."
@matthewalexanderlemma8000
@matthewalexanderlemma8000 6 лет назад
XtreemMetalMan A very sick mentality, indeed.
@kelman727
@kelman727 5 лет назад
shoaib btt Usually by people who ignore one crucial scene that renders the accusation of gay-bashing entirely baseless. And should have been obvious then. That people still mistakenly believe this now seems ridiculous.
@luqas99
@luqas99 5 лет назад
@shoaib btt Buffalo Bill wasn't a transsexual, you simp.
@2thepeople1
@2thepeople1 4 года назад
“It rubs the lotion on it’s skin or else it gets the hose again.”
@-Siculus-Hort-
@-Siculus-Hort- 2 года назад
"PUT THE LOTION IN THE FUCKING BASKET!"
@nickmattio3397
@nickmattio3397 6 лет назад
“Are u about a size 14???”
@devonjones5200
@devonjones5200 4 года назад
Hahaha me n my friend use to say that alot to each other as a joke
@evanabbott2737
@evanabbott2737 3 года назад
I always forget about that line....so messed up..😂
@PratikGohil2205
@PratikGohil2205 3 года назад
It puts the lotion in the basket
@sorartificial
@sorartificial 4 года назад
Interesting points, also I noticed a couple of things in the movie, by the end of the movie Clarice in a way evolves from her cocoon, as she kills buffalo, we see after a scene where the girl who was abducted is holding the little white dog (her lamb) and after that we see Clarice is like the girl represents Clarice's innocence who is no longer there. Also It makes a lot of sense what you say about Buffalo's mom, in the scene where he refers to the girl as it, when he asked her it should put the lotion in the basket the girl says multiple times " I miss my mommy " that triggered him, is almost as if that hole where he keeps those girls is his inner subconscious or his deeper self.
@chickenstrips5541
@chickenstrips5541 2 года назад
I like your interpretation about her being in the hole and the lotion thing. When he called her "it" to me it sounded like he was trying to treat her as something other than a human being with a life that he was about to kill so that he wouldn't feel as bad for killing and skinning her. So basically dehumanizing her before mutilating her.
@rodneysettle8106
@rodneysettle8106 Год назад
@@chickenstrips5541 well most serial killers don’t see their victims as humans but as their toys to do with what they’re fantasies desire.
@chrisxdeboy
@chrisxdeboy 6 лет назад
Holy shit, the crossfade at 6:03, Lecter's face lines up perfectly with the stain in the cover art.
@matimus100
@matimus100 2 года назад
Holy 51 shits stinks to
@jebkush1052
@jebkush1052 6 лет назад
I saw this movie when I was 10 years old and I've loved it ever since.
@redsonja2291
@redsonja2291 5 лет назад
Who wouldn't, it's such a great movie! I wasn't that good in English when I was 10 years old, but I did see the shining when I was 8, which was not a good idea because the lady in the bathtub freaked me out, and I wasn't able to even get that much of the dialogue seeing as it was subtitled and I couldn't read that fast yet. My dad just did not care if we wanted to see something he just said, if you get scared then don't cry to me about it. I saw it with him and my little brother who was 6 years old at the time...
@PhantasmaAdoria
@PhantasmaAdoria 5 лет назад
Same! I was exactly 11 when I saw this and have loved it every since! :)
@isabella-dl3sb
@isabella-dl3sb 4 года назад
I saw it for the first time when I was 10 but I didn’t really get much of it until I re watched it at like 14
@makerstudios5456
@makerstudios5456 5 лет назад
This movie was genius. A rare perfect movie.
@km-my4un
@km-my4un 6 лет назад
Fine line between transformation and self improvement .
@ThriveAfterAbuse
@ThriveAfterAbuse 6 лет назад
Your analysis is absolutely fantastic! I wouldn’t have made those connections in a million years, and now have a whole new appreciation for this movie.
@branman81794
@branman81794 5 лет назад
I get so tired of people saying this movie/story is transphobic. It’s made clear that gumb is not a real transexual and spoiler alert...in the book he killed his own grandparents. He’s just a deeply disturbed individual
@stevepalpatine2828
@stevepalpatine2828 4 года назад
Why are you gae?
@donniejohnson6060
@donniejohnson6060 6 лет назад
I've who is clung to The Silence of the Lambs series as one of the most collectively intricate and evocative series of movies ever made My Commendation on your notification of hidden elements
@sherryisajerk
@sherryisajerk 6 лет назад
I agree! I am eager to revisit the entire series.
@johnkeenan1829
@johnkeenan1829 3 года назад
There's a great line in the book after Starling kills Gumb in the basement; "He'd put on some of his things from the armoire, and she couldn't look at him long." Must've gone shopping at Geins N Things
@Amira_Phoenix
@Amira_Phoenix Год назад
No need to. Despite being a messed up person, he was a skilled tailor
@ScoutMotto2011
@ScoutMotto2011 5 лет назад
At 2:20, that is not how the music should falter in a music box. It would slow down, but not normally drop in pitch. This was an added effect.
@aravista222
@aravista222 6 лет назад
Pilcher apparently also means a scabbard or covering. So, a noble covering? hiding something underneath?
@leejohnstone4663
@leejohnstone4663 2 года назад
In the novel Jame Gumb is a extreme version of Norman Bates. He watches home movies of his mother and says to his dog "precious" Mommy is good to be so beautiful. So it's obvious Jame Gumb wants to be his mother. The difference between Buffalo Bill and Norman Bates is Buffalo Bill only has one personality possessing his mind
@ALLNAMESAREALLREADYT
@ALLNAMESAREALLREADYT 6 лет назад
is there any Twin Peaks analysis by Rob Ager here on youtube ? I would like so much to see it
@aarondorris7639
@aarondorris7639 6 лет назад
same, I really want to know what he thought about the new season.
@element1111
@element1111 6 лет назад
I think it's on his 'to-do' list
@hpvegan1625
@hpvegan1625 6 лет назад
I found this shocking and disturbing as well. But I must say Ager's work has consumed the past 3 days of my life so I can be patient/understanding!
@spo616
@spo616 4 года назад
John Stromboly o- me too! I hope Rob reads the comments… Happy Mother’s Day all!🥰👋💗💕💕😻😻😻😻😻
@gorequillnachovidal
@gorequillnachovidal 6 лет назад
Transformation
@naomidenisepinedaspirit-bo7955
@naomidenisepinedaspirit-bo7955 3 года назад
How weird I’m here and it’s Easter weekend
@mattwilkes9502
@mattwilkes9502 5 лет назад
Fantastic analysis, great video. As a huge fan of the novel and film I’m amazed I didn’t pick up on some of these details. Jame’s obsession with transformation always seemed a singular theme but this sheds a lot of light.
@Jayskiallthewayski
@Jayskiallthewayski 5 лет назад
"Accepts her offer to a date?" Is that in the novel?
@5starcomment
@5starcomment 6 лет назад
In the Hannibal novel, Thomas Harris writes: "There Is a witchy beauty about Muskrat Farm, the Verger family's mansion near the Susquehanna River in northern Maryland." I think the author and the producers of the film connote different things from this word: the cliché witch usually has one eye that's turned inward, like the movie version of Pilcher; but I think Harris means it more like there's something otherworldly about its appearance... I'm new to your videos and they're great...
@KutWrite
@KutWrite 6 лет назад
I wondered if the actor who played Pilcher actually had such an eye, if it was a contact, or done in post.
@tomservo5347
@tomservo5347 2 года назад
I would like to think of the 'witchy' eyes as someone possessing very striking visage and having a 'piercing gaze' as some people have been described. (For example, the historical Daniel Boone had a feature everyone noticed about him and it was called 'piercing blue eyes', like he could see within you.)
@JB-ef7ks
@JB-ef7ks Год назад
The movie is about project monarch which is a CIA mk ultra program hence the butterfly!!
@kimmyfreak200
@kimmyfreak200 3 года назад
i don't know if anyone noticed this but it mirrors lecters opinion of buffalo bill... he clearly isn't gay or transsexual... i don't even wanna say trans cuz he is psychotic which is why he is denied surgery... theres a scene when jodi enters the room u can see polaroids of him getting freaky with nude women and many are sitting on his lap. I think he was sexually abused to the point where he hated himself and his gender and the part where in the dark he admires starlings beauty and was tempted to touch her face...then the scene of him mimicking katherine but not just mocking her he does it differently at the beginning.. he envied them/wanted to be them to escape his body thinking he'd be happy
@wheelzwheela
@wheelzwheela 4 года назад
Could never make this movie now.
@arbiterofreason2068
@arbiterofreason2068 4 года назад
The transtrenders would throw a fit. Even though they probably all liked the tv show.
@TheEuzkatroika
@TheEuzkatroika 4 года назад
no way...this time every movie explode..You touch something and we got a fire..
@blackpoolbootz2790
@blackpoolbootz2790 4 года назад
I don't know buffalo bill could definitely himself as a non binary Homicidal moth lol
@BricksIn
@BricksIn 4 года назад
They would just have to change some outdated medical terminology and I think it would be fine. You worry too much about things that might not actually exist.
@theshoes7488
@theshoes7488 3 года назад
@@BricksIn nah, they exist. Sounds like denial to me. In fact, this comment is all over this video (it’s the top comment of the video as well “This film could never be made today.” Is at 1400 thumbs up). Which then states that this is indeed a popular idea which means that he is not alone in his ideas which means you’re words are hallow. He may and even should worry about whatever he decides to and All the better when he’s making an observation that actually exists. Well done!
@baguettegott3409
@baguettegott3409 3 года назад
The transphobia in the comment section is... heavy, albeit obviously expected.
@nicholasbyram296
@nicholasbyram296 2 года назад
The desire to replicate is no understandable urge to those who desire to duplicate...nah mean...
@zachb2384
@zachb2384 6 лет назад
Nice, don't know why but I've been binging on interviews related to this movie lately. Happy to see a new Rob Ager breakdown of it in my sidebar.
@hamishspencer
@hamishspencer 6 лет назад
You're almost there. The idea of the film is that Starling will transform into a serial killer and, like the others, she will be used by Crawford to kill for the FBI.
@esyphillis101
@esyphillis101 6 лет назад
That’s an interesting suggestion I’ve not heard about the film before. How did you come to that conclusion?
@handsomebrick
@handsomebrick 6 лет назад
I like that idea, it's creepy. There should be an actual movie like that.
@esyphillis101
@esyphillis101 6 лет назад
On a conceptual and thematic level, this would actually be a pretty brilliant sequel to Silence of the Lambs.
@Kazekoge101
@Kazekoge101 6 лет назад
Well your part right already, In the sequel book she runs off with Hannibal Lecter to Argentina as his lover. Oh and looks like his dead sister cause Thomas Harris couldn't be taboo enough lol
@laproserpina2620
@laproserpina2620 6 лет назад
yah supposedly some hidden mk ultrA stuff. I think Hannibal said billy was 'made' a killer, to 'born'
@hansdossche795
@hansdossche795 6 лет назад
Can't wait to download it this evening
@paulpizzlewizzle
@paulpizzlewizzle 6 лет назад
Some bugs don't cocoon. Cocoon was a shithouse rat crazy movie btw.
@KutWrite
@KutWrite 6 лет назад
Is that a good thing?
@sirandrelefaedelinoge
@sirandrelefaedelinoge 4 года назад
You got the SHIT part right.
@scottcharney1091
@scottcharney1091 3 года назад
It also featured Wilford "Diabeetus" Brimley.
@AleAlejandro44
@AleAlejandro44 6 лет назад
Do an analysis on Manhunter
@epichal4883
@epichal4883 5 лет назад
This. I've been expecting it since the moment I got the film and watched it. It's so good I even started analyzing it myself and there's a lot of great details that most viewers overlooked, such as the importance and symbolism of the lunar landscape screen in Dollarhyde's house which ties into his "relationship with the moon" as Lecter puts it or how his posture when he dies resembles the Red Dragon from the Blake painting.
@logiconlyzone
@logiconlyzone 6 лет назад
There is a pathological difference between self improvement and self deciete to run away from oneself. One revolves becoming a superior person and the other a distracting illusion to run away from inadequacy. This is a common human issue and its not surprising to see it as a central theme in horror.
@pmaughmer
@pmaughmer 4 года назад
You ain't human Spock, intellect is only one half of the mind.
@ThievesInTheTreasureRoom
@ThievesInTheTreasureRoom 24 дня назад
A couple of thoughts. One, regarding Dr Pilcher, you are right to say that the film is clearly trying to make the audience uncomfortable with him. When it comes down to it, he is odd and cock-eyed. Yet, Starling is clearly amused by him and appears to be rather comfortable with him. She sees something in Dr Pilcher the audience cannot while the audience misreads him based solely on his superficial qualities. This says something about how the average person sees someone who is different from them compared to someone who is looking beyond the superficial and into the human psyche. It is a wonderful and uplifting scene in the midst of a very dark movie- perhaps the only uplifting or the most light-hearted scene in the entire film. And, in the novel, Starling and Dr Pilcher do have a romantic connection- I don't think it's ambiguous at all. They have a connection, pure and simple. Second, there is a fascinating scene in the movie that no one has seemed to touch on. I've researched criticism of the film and I have not found any reference to the following. During the scene when Starling is pursuing Gumb in his home, Gumb stalks Starling in his basement and the audience observes him watching her with green-eyed lenses. Do I really need to expand on the last three words of the previous sentence? Buffalo Bill is the green-eyed monster who covets Starling's clear and obvious feminine qualities. He is reaching out to her with his hands- he sees this specimen, if you will, of femininity who he wants to become. It is a brilliant piece of filmmaking that highlights exactly and in dramatic fasion the topic of your analysis- the theme of personal transformation - and the motive behind the murders committed by Buffalo Bill: he covets.
@denniskuhn743
@denniskuhn743 2 года назад
This movie was amazing... I'd totally f me.. lmao.. this movie will always and forever be a classic
@Starcrow999
@Starcrow999 6 лет назад
Your videos are gold man. Love them!
@CissyBrazil
@CissyBrazil 3 года назад
I really need to read the novel is apparently longer with more content than the movie which I’ve watched several times.
@GmRb79
@GmRb79 5 лет назад
everyone has secrets. deep lightness to darkness.
@JeremySalesi
@JeremySalesi 6 лет назад
Interesting when he says something like "our stomachs want to change too".
@hangedups2608
@hangedups2608 4 года назад
Jeremy Salesi OUR BILL WANTS TO CHANGE TOO
@maggiek1714
@maggiek1714 4 года назад
HANGED UPS our billy
@kres1510
@kres1510 5 лет назад
This was an awesome analysis, u've always wondered about this movie it's a true classic.
@Kjca_1998
@Kjca_1998 6 лет назад
Where you from rob? South Liverpool?
@beakyturf6336
@beakyturf6336 6 лет назад
Ill try get my friend to comment. He says there are lots of holes in the film. It was one of the pieces of media he had to dissect when he was doing his psychology degree.
@RRRWeAreProgrammed
@RRRWeAreProgrammed 2 года назад
Gum must of taken those photos
@joejessup9775
@joejessup9775 6 лет назад
The actress who plays Frederica's friend looks just like Rachel McAdams
@mookfaru835
@mookfaru835 6 лет назад
I just bought a lamb. Today!
@mookfaru835
@mookfaru835 6 лет назад
They are so gentle and innocent.
@sirandrelefaedelinoge
@sirandrelefaedelinoge 4 года назад
Did it taste good?
@laquisab
@laquisab 3 года назад
@@mookfaru835 is it silent?
@jamesofarcadia
@jamesofarcadia 4 года назад
sorry but your analysis falters a little, because you've missed details from the book. For example, Gumb worked at that store, not a butterfly specific store, years before Ohio (so its just placement by the director) and the polaroids of Catherine had no faces of either the she or her partner, probably because she was a senators daughter, and class is one theme which is dealt with a lot in the book, but not really touched on in the film.
@jamesrumsey
@jamesrumsey 3 года назад
"Bird or Animal furs..." Your city boy is showing! Birds don't have fur.
@lavo-ld4wm
@lavo-ld4wm 3 года назад
9:04 Doctor Pilcher was played by Paul Lazar, who also was the US Doctor in the Korean film "The Host" (2006)
@allertonoff4
@allertonoff4 6 лет назад
your urge toward narrative closure is, ostensibly admirable.
@luigivercotti6410
@luigivercotti6410 6 лет назад
By now I count 2 vids being suddenly removed -Vertigo film analysis -Colonel Upham: Saving Private Ryan's weak intellectual strawman Anyone got any more?
@scottcharney1091
@scottcharney1091 3 года назад
Blondie is the name of the band. Debbie Harry is the singer.
@K.Adler1120
@K.Adler1120 4 года назад
Katherine is what I want to name my daughter. I hope she's just as strong and brave and as much of a fighter as Katherine
@Willowtree82
@Willowtree82 3 года назад
It's a beautiful name. I used to think Karen was a beautiful name until people ruined it by calling over bearing women, Karen's, now I feel bad for anyone with that name
@youzawiggamudshark8174
@youzawiggamudshark8174 4 года назад
Sewing skin ain't easy, gets creases.
@gabrielzamudio3001
@gabrielzamudio3001 3 года назад
Wrinkles lol
@armandoreyna9228
@armandoreyna9228 4 года назад
What's up with lecter and gay men
@sgc4271
@sgc4271 4 года назад
I never realized this before, but it's pretty wild that the actor who hooked Travis Bickle up with his guns to wage war in Jodi Foster's honor is also F. Bimmel's father...
@CapnT0bz
@CapnT0bz 6 лет назад
The first two videos I saw were "Abuse Themes in The Excorcist" and "Danny's Ordeal." I was hoping this would be a channel dedicated to proving why every character in a horror film was molested. Even though that isn't the case I am loving the content and how you completely change the way I view these movies. Thanks for the fantastic videos.
@chuckyfire8439
@chuckyfire8439 2 года назад
Mariposas
@arbiterofreason2068
@arbiterofreason2068 4 года назад
I think Starling was wrong about Lecter. A combination of his whole experience and his IQ which is blatantly in the 200s gives him a God complex. In his opinion, he knows better and if people say he's wrong then that just shows their ignorance it shows that they're just pissants. Imagine being accomplished at everything that you do. You would feel contempt for incompetent peers after a while. And then come to the conclusion that you have no peers(that's why he's fascinated with Will Graham, he can actually keep up with Hannibal despite being left in his wake). As far as Lecter's concerned, we're not much more than animals.
@stephencurran2284
@stephencurran2284 2 года назад
“Blatantly in the 200s” not that high he’s more like 160. An iq of 200 would be the smartest person on the planet. An iq in the 200s would be the smartest to have ever lived
@adamgrimsley2900
@adamgrimsley2900 5 лет назад
His belief is not an exaggerated version of change, he is mentally ill.
@WisteriaNerium
@WisteriaNerium 5 лет назад
yeah you didn't watched everything, just seconds later he says "problem common to other characters on the film" and ironically he also says it's easy to see it as just that and not part of the themes.
@Gemma.ack_
@Gemma.ack_ 2 года назад
I didn’t rlly like the movie at all
@jesusfollowerswomenministries
@jesusfollowerswomenministries 2 года назад
Jesus whom is the one and only true God and Creator came to earth 2000+ years ago to go to the cross to pay our sin debt in full. His sacrifice was sufficient to pay the penalty for the sins of the world (1 John 2:2). A created being could not pay the infinite penalty required for sin against an infinite God. Only God could pay such an infinite penalty. Only God could take on the sins of the world (2 Corinthians 5:21), die, and be resurrected, proving His victory over sin and death and that true and only God is JESUS! And He did all that because He loves us and wants to save us and have a relationship with us. Jesus is waiting for you to come to Him, He won't cast you away from Himself if you come to Him. He calls us all to repentance, He loves us and wants to save us. believe and have faith in God then the Holy Spirit will come in and lead you to repent of your sins and God will forgive you of your sins and cleanse you by the blood of Jesus and you'll get born again by His Holy Spirit and have His salvation, you will become a new creation (John 3:3-19). God bless
@EmeraldLavigne
@EmeraldLavigne 5 лет назад
Goddamn you are so fucking good at this... Do you teach film theory or film as literature or literature analysis or something like that?
@mitchelll3879
@mitchelll3879 2 года назад
No need for the GD.. blasphemy..not necessary
@spacedtime6597
@spacedtime6597 4 года назад
I think the part about Pilcher was edited out of the Audible recording. I remember it as Pilch's colleague Roden pestered her the most and she made a comment to Maps that "the wrong one always calls"
@Amira_Phoenix
@Amira_Phoenix Год назад
Roden called on Clarice about the entomological analysis results, she just didn't know yet. He did not make any move on her
@luqas99
@luqas99 5 лет назад
4:30 You are really reaching with this bit. The novel and the film make emphasise that Starling idolized her father and wishes she could achieve something which would have made him proud, but are clear to draw a distinction between this personal motivation and that of Jame Gumb's twisted obsession. Also, there is no hint that her trying to be a good agent is akin to changing her sex in psychological terms, I think you are seeing your own feelings in the material where they do not exist, I don't think that intepretation of yours is reflective of the original works. 5:32 I think you are also doing that here: I've seen you comment in videos before that you've had negative experiences on account of your own Liverpudlian accent, that the accent is not associated with academia or intellectual pursuit in our zeigeist, and been conscious of that while making no effort to change or adapt it. I think, therefore, that your pretty harsh connection of the recruits' (of which Starling is an exemplar) efforts to improve themselves and become agents with Starling's surface-level effort to shed her accent and even with Jame Gumb's fantasy of change is a parallel you've forced into the narrative with considerable reaching, motivated by your own sore feelings about surface change. Also, 5:52 what? A "social justice god"? He is, in the film and source mterial, a hero who worked himself terribly to advance understanding of serial killers to stop them. That's "social justice"?
@morganfarrell2442
@morganfarrell2442 5 лет назад
What a fantastic analysis!
@bluebeard6189
@bluebeard6189 3 года назад
Well your analysis seems very in-depth and quite accurate to the movie, you're leaving how the movie combined many of the characters. Such as the fact that in the book it was not part of Federico's jewelry box that contained the pictures. So basically you're doing a brilliant analysis of a film that departs dramatically from The Source material
@sderoski1
@sderoski1 3 года назад
I enjoyed this and will try the entire video, consider the cognitive dissonance between human predation and the killing and eating of animals and crafting their skins into clothing and shoes, Hannibal orders lamb chops after hearing Clarice's story, where Clarice describes the horror of witnessing how 'food' is acquired, admits that she is exhilarated by her work; she must transform herself into a predator to apprehend Bill
@Concreteowl
@Concreteowl 5 лет назад
The film Zodiac hints at a possible snuff movie distribution among the elite. That Zodiac was killing to entertain the wealthy.
@jjarichardson
@jjarichardson 5 лет назад
The idea Zodiac filmed his murders was only a theory by one of the detectives on the case. Zodiac may have been a wealthy killer though - look up Kjell Qvale.
@arturaskarbocius6091
@arturaskarbocius6091 6 лет назад
MK-ultra project Monarch butterfly control or Iron Man MK42 model Elon Musk or Monarch control of sex slave (gimp) in show business like Madonna. Or Clockwork orange Alex old fashioned MK-ultra(violence). Even Pulp Fiction Butch in golden watch story have butterfly painting and story about noble profession of soldier have very creepy mind control vibe (OK Chrisopher Walken is very creepy guy in all his movies), and butch is boxer fly like butterfly sting like a bee :) And just Hannibal Lecter we only character even counting extras feels good in his skin (no reference to Buffalo Bill LoL)
@nowankersallowed2115
@nowankersallowed2115 4 года назад
That written part is very important.. when faced with reality.. there's a fine line between wanting to find the good and the the potential.. and embellishing the truth in a more fantastical way. For those for example who may have been adopted and found out or in an orphanage.. the imagining of who the family could be or the belief of what family is can be created in a non realistic way. There's nothing wrong with desiring and imagining.. to think about something and then work towards it... The danger though is the expectations of a perfect world rather than a realistic one. There is a much needed balance between the two. Being that people come from different backgrounds etc means that the baseline for reality differs even within the home. What's normal for me may be very unnormal for another. Working out what defines a word is helpful. Then making sure both are understanding what that baseline is. You can have people go through a similar experience yet due to age or nationality, gender, personality, life experience in general will all play a part in how they interpret and then begin to work through their issues or needs.. there are a lot of varying factors. This was what I found so disturbing with mental health. I'm not a stupid person but was clearly being affected by something in the negative. Yet pretty much entering the doors saying a few words that they decided were of concern began to try and diagnose me. I was stunned. If this has happened on me then how many others have been treated in the same way.
@spuriusscapula4829
@spuriusscapula4829 8 месяцев назад
Manhunter is more interesting though.
@lostintechnicolor
@lostintechnicolor 4 года назад
Jonathan Demme’s style of often filming his actors speaking directly into the camera always was always unsettling to me.
@sarcasticallyrearranged
@sarcasticallyrearranged 3 года назад
Do you feel uncomfortable looking directly at a camera?
@jonnybirchyboy1560
@jonnybirchyboy1560 3 года назад
Especially when it’s a serial killer staring into you.
@robertbusek30
@robertbusek30 3 месяца назад
The back and forth dialogue between Lecter and Starling before Lecter escapes is one of the creepiest scenes ever filmed, IMO.
@Amira_Phoenix
@Amira_Phoenix Год назад
From the novel I gathered that Jame's transvestite pursuits would be appreciated in certain circles, non murder tho. I will double check.
@GoodYegg
@GoodYegg 6 лет назад
I assume your using PAL versions of films when you use clips?
@robag555
@robag555 6 лет назад
Why?
@crazylikeafox3596
@crazylikeafox3596 2 года назад
System produced drivel. It'd be funny, but people will nod and buy anything nowadays. I weep for the future.
@brandonbailey8649
@brandonbailey8649 2 года назад
Hey Rob. Remember when Manson told his minions to murder, all he admits to is telling them to, "Do something witchy." Make what you will of that. Any time I hear the word "witchy" I think of Manson, and those horrible murders.
@ruthy8ruthy
@ruthy8ruthy 3 месяца назад
You’re are genius Rob
@TheEuzkatroika
@TheEuzkatroika 4 года назад
the book and the movie itself, is about the transformation of who we are. To be better or worse people. It is ultimately about the fear of being able to be something "good or bad" of being "worse or better" of being "Heroes or beasts"..
@matthewmcrightallright8232
@matthewmcrightallright8232 3 года назад
hey rob love your channels. was watching this and noticed, is that the reflection of the hostage in the reflection of the ballerina music box mirror?
@penelopeclearwater4454
@penelopeclearwater4454 Год назад
Isn't he pretty!
@MrAmbisonic
@MrAmbisonic 6 лет назад
Awesome analysis!!! Brilliant !
@johnasee2049
@johnasee2049 4 года назад
Wait, you DON'T want people to share your video? Wut?
@brianwarner308
@brianwarner308 6 лет назад
awesome man great analysis!!
@beemayhemful
@beemayhemful 3 года назад
So, in the book, Catherine’s boyfriend is more of a presence- there’s the scene where we “meet” her and they’re discussing getting popcorn and she volunteers goes to do that rather than him. He’s mentioned a bit more, but the elements you’re talking about with her are only present in the movie. I would say if you’re using the book for her, her transformation is stereotypical of authority figures’ children: she’s introduced as being stoned in the scene with the popcorn, and painted as kind of slumming it with the boyfriend in the apartment later on. So, she’s pulling kind of a reverse Clarice ala Pulp’s “Common People”, which the new tv series actually touches on wonderfully. The white trash mountain kid who ran away to be a sophisticated authority, and the kid who ran away from sophistication and authority to be kinda trashy. Very cool video, great theses!
@beemayhemful
@beemayhemful 3 года назад
Oh! Also! Chilton is revealed in a scene with Clarice that really lays his own aspirations and truths bare that bears rereading. Again, thanks and fantastic video!
@karstenvonfjellheim5321
@karstenvonfjellheim5321 6 лет назад
It's been so long since I have seen the movie or read the novels, but I did watch the TV-show when it aired.....but can't recall if they got to Buffalo Bill? Odd. Anyhow, wasn't Buffalo Bill's persona(s) all made up, not what he really desired and wanted but a sort of copying of other people?
@harentonearnshaw7628
@harentonearnshaw7628 3 года назад
Remember when this was creepy and not mainstream culture in America lol
@kamijenkins4202
@kamijenkins4202 Год назад
Great dissection and analysis of the movie and characters.
@macthedrummer1
@macthedrummer1 5 лет назад
Put the Fuckin lotion in the basket.
@ryanmoss6598
@ryanmoss6598 6 лет назад
illuminati pyramid in the jewelry box
@ryanjones9498
@ryanjones9498 3 года назад
That bug guy looked like Gumb’s brother
@screenname2154
@screenname2154 3 года назад
Buffalo bill is the representation of buffalo bill personality.
@gtrplyr6283
@gtrplyr6283 2 года назад
When Sterling saw Frederique's dress with the diamonds on the back, why did she translate the dress to Bill being gifted in sewing? Furthermore, I didn't quite follow how this led Sterling to his house.
@SylviaM.2204
@SylviaM.2204 2 года назад
BB´s victims were big girls. Fredericka was a big girl. And when Clarice visit the parent of Fredericka, she take a look in her room. When she found this music box with the hidden pics inside, first she knew, that her parents know nothing of the existence of F.´s "boyfriend" BB bc she hides this photos taken of her and second F. is shown half naked on this pics bc her murderer made these photos to maybe had a reason to look, how "big" his future skin would be (BB says probably to her, that he is going to make a dress for her? Or something else...). Clarice remebers the words spoken from Hannibal, that the murderer wants what he sees every day. So it must be someone with whom F. had frequent contact; living near her in the same community. Clarice is told by Frederickas parent, that before she vanished (and murdered) she sometimes sew at a house, where an older lady live. Then Clarice get the adress from F.´s parent and drive there. And who opens the door? Right, BB. When Clarice later hunts BB, she came across the rotten corpse from that old lady in the bath tub. BB killed that old lady (i don´t know, if BB killed the old lady at the same day he abducted/held F. captive).
@aakkoin
@aakkoin 6 лет назад
Love ya, Rob. Brilliant stuff, I have not found better film analyses.
@matimus100
@matimus100 2 года назад
Strange comment easy lover
@aakkoin
@aakkoin 2 года назад
@@matimus100 no homo
@Concreteowl
@Concreteowl 6 лет назад
Maybe he picked up the motif from her. He wanted something of her. Maybe he wanted to be her dream.
@vaughsclutz6675
@vaughsclutz6675 2 года назад
Shawcross@ whiter eye see retin
@UNICAYGENIAL
@UNICAYGENIAL 3 года назад
She´s not can change of sex.
@user-tb4el1sr1q
@user-tb4el1sr1q 2 года назад
Sweet sweet city woman
@tomjones2348
@tomjones2348 5 лет назад
I consider the work of Rob Ager as, nootropic. When I feel this impulse to stimulate my neuroplasticity, I simply watch one of Rob's superb presentations.
@chrysankalcanides3746
@chrysankalcanides3746 2 года назад
Promises posted
@gaysodaniel1636
@gaysodaniel1636 4 года назад
I love this book n movie
@arbiterofreason2068
@arbiterofreason2068 4 года назад
Hannibal was the best of the books. I couldn't put it down! :)
@matimus100
@matimus100 2 года назад
Strange comment slightly homosexual feelings for them is totally ok tho bro
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