Silksong is Being Developed in Unity 

Why are we still here? Just to suffer?

whoever is the master mind behind this Unity fee just put most of the games into development hell

I think we're getting dangerously close to the point the little guy takes up arms against the big guy. Every car is getting monthly fees to turn on heating, games are being giving fees from Unity making it hard to get games, we don't own the media we buy anymore thanks to streaming (I don't get streaming as a result) and thanks to Ai theft now it's getting close to us not owning our own word and works... Big companies need to learn, when you take all the money, all out stability, and all that we care about and take it for your own you have created a group with nothing left to lose cause nothing belongs to them. And that should terrify companies when the breaking point is hit

Godot is literally right there, please Team cherry I'm begging you

I never imagined a company could be so oppressive... wait yes I did

This game ive been following called Psycutlery moved development to Unity a year ago and now Its gonna get delayed even more :(

This whole situation is fucking insanity

I honestly just feel bad for Team Cherry. They’re already going through hell just trying to finish the game then Unity of course has to make their struggle 100x harder…

literally nearly every indie game in steam right now is a ticking death watch till January 2024, we are truly nearing the end of times

RIP Silksong I'm sure it would have been fun but now we'll never know

A single tear rolled down my cheek, truly heartbreaking

Didnþknow mega crit was making a new title this unity thing is kinda a bummer

It is so unbelievably frustrating that these greedy changes are going to set back so many games years.

I don’t think we’re gonna have to wait five years but then again, I’m not a game developer so I don’t know much, but can’t they just take the code that they’ve already made and put it into a different source engine along with the assets? Even if this is possible, it’s still gonna take a few years to port

Holly frikin sh*t, even crowsworn is being made in unity, WE WON’T EVEN HAVE FRIKIN CROWSWORN 😭😭

Bro what’s silksong like everyone’s talking about it 💀

No stop my depression was on an upswing nooooooooooo

it's joever

That guy with the $600 post is way off, not sure where they got that alarmist figure from.

In a single remarkably 🤡 move, unity: - delayed multiple hotly anticipated titles for potentially years - caused a mass exodus of the best indies that use their platform - tarnished their reputation as the every-man's engine - displayed incredible greed

ah, this is a horror channel now. well. i guess the other stuff you've covered includes some amount of horror, but

there needs to be a specific term for a business decision that at first glance seems like yet another profit maximising action any business would eventually take, but is so woefully short-sighted and spectacularly greedy that it backfires on them hard enough to tank their entire company

You know what's crazy? When I FIRST wanted to learn to make games years ago, I picked C# language on Unity. Thanks to being a useless piece of shit, I have NEVER fully followed up on that dream, until I decided to follow through a few months ago and I picked fuckin' GODOT as the engine this time around before this debacle. I'm truly lucky in this life, in all the ways that really count. Here's to the EA execs running Unity into the ground. I hope they choke on the money they get from the most transparent insider trade scheme I've ever seen.

The true Silksong was the anticipation we made along the way

"We have never made a public statement before. That is how badly you fucked up." is the best set of sentences I've seen in YEARS

Im still holding out hope that nintendo sends their legal department since a few pokemon games run unity

The fact that unity will apparently even be making money on pirated installs is killing me right now

"90% of users won't be affected" Aren't 90% of your users average Joes like me who downloaded Unity wanting to make a game, but gave up a month or two into it?

"How to willingly step on a bear trap" - Written by Unity CEO -

In wilds beyond They speak your name with revilement and regret For none could pay your savage toll But you the challenge met Under Riccitiello watch You charged We changed (engines) Base human greed redeemed A new world they gave to bug and beast, now we shall never see

Unity saying customers will be unaffected by the price changes is the most brain dead thing thing they said on the matter

unity really made a cope statement that said “oh it won’t affect 90% of our users” but its going to affect the indie devs that you showed in the video, because they have highly anticipated games (for some people like me) that will put them in that 10% it will affect. and the fact unity took down TOS just goes to show how scummy they are

I truly do not understand how it’s legal to rip up your old ToS without any input from the thousand+ companies using it with absolutely no response possible.

Silkbros on suicide watch right now

Is every sector just squeezing a bit more profit wherever they can? It's absurd, cost of anything I can think of has gone up. Like a few of the lower tier sectors caught wind of those earnings calls of record profits in the time of 'rona and now everybody is trying to reach that unsustainable high of profitprofitprofit. End stage cap, just like, stop already. OMG, ur so extra

It's so joever

It feels... gross. I remember reading through the rationale behind unity's development and release during its initial versions, when it was about as feature complete as godot way abour 4 years ago. It was meant to be the 3d engine for everyone, that anyone could use, even if it took a little work. That pitch worked, and since I read it, I supported it wholeheartedly, ignoring upcoming community projects like godot, or more robust engines like UE4. Downplaying the changes focused on money making and inexplicable feature changes to fellow developers. I feel... dumb. Like I never should have cared. Like they told me lies, then stole that trust for nothing. And now, I need to learn a new engine. I guess godot is similar enough. Or maybe I just go back to gamemaker. Apparently it has physics and 3d now.

Cursed timeline, Silksong will be out in about 400 years at this point.

Long time Hollowknight community member here. Just wanted to let everyone know that Team Cherry and their PR guy Matthew Griffin AKA Leth have not said anything about this currently unfolding situation yet. So people should assume that Team Cherry has not changed their plans and people shouldn't be concerned worried or panic unless and only until Team Cherry or Leth say otherwise. Lastly people should be on the lookout for fake post claiming to be from Team Cherry or Matthew Griffin that say that they are planning on switching engines thus causing a delay. These are fake and can quickly and easily be debunked by checking Team Cherry's and Matthew Griffin's official Twitter/X accounts.

I feel like half the companies who have been around for a decade or more are now just the ship of theseus and its inevitable that they all do shit like this. I dont like sipping doomer fuel but this makes me want a gallon of it.

This might sound like a weird comment, but thanks. I needed this. The past 48 hours have been wild, and honestly have really challenged my faith in my desire to actually go into game development. Like, what's the point if shit like this can happen at any time? But you know what? This made me laugh, and realize that yeah, shit happens. But I can't let that stop me from making what I want to make. I've already come this far, and it could be a lot worse for me. So, from a single amateur developer: thanks for the laughs, Worm Girl.

We thought that we where stepping into a good era of gaming but nah, another few years to wait for games to be ported to other engines, that sucks

Imagine not finding out about the policy change and then suddenly you're bankrupted by unity for a game you made as a teen

I hope you make more lore-like videos of indie-horror games, your Fear & Hunger series really captivated me into your channel and I firmly believe that your work is underrated.

Isn't capitalism fun?

We are nearing the end times. I feel this is only the begining. We will see more and more predatory practises not only in gaming but in other media as well. Everything where something is "owned" digitally without a physical copy. Be it music, movies, books you name it. Subscribtion models and fragmentation of content will be the norm. You won't just pay for it once and have it for ever, you will pay for it all the time and again when you want to read/use it. And know what? If they really want to fuck you, they will remove the content or make it inacessible to you and sell it back later again as some sort of bundle. We trully come to a world where you don't own anything. You just pay for the use. And if you can't? Well they don't care.

Hopefully this will lead to more people using the godot engine

How to make your company bankrupt speedrun any%

Unity aren’t gonna make money, all they’re gonna do is lose money, they should realise this, honestly, they aren’t the only game engine in the market, they are making themselves worse in a market with many alternatives. Unity have to realise this, right?

at 1:43 i just broke down in a laugh of denial like no way unity just pulled this off in this universe

Hope Unity has unlimited lawyers, this feels of license ...u m, there's a specific word for it. I'll eagerly await legal RU-vid's rezponse

There was one safe harbor left. Then the shareholders took that, too.

why would unity do this and think it would go over well? whey wouldn't they release their FAQ at the start instead of waiting a full day to explain what counts as a reinstall and if pirated installs or installs via game pass would count? why is their explanation still so shoddy that i'm now even MORE worried than i was when I first read it? why does it sound like they're gonna make devs fight tooth and nail to prove "pirated installs"? this whole situations, just why?

I thought the memes about games being made in Unity being a sign of trying times were jokes. Well, I guess Silksong is finna move to UE4 lmao

DEVELOPERS ARE SHAREHOLDERS TOO! Their investment in Unity is just as real and valid as any other.

The bigger a company gets the harder it is to find new customers, for these fuckers to make money after that point they have to keep the current ones spending money and not just the same amount but more cause if they don't earnings plateau and that means that they can't expect a rise in company value that would allow them to sell shares higher than they bought them. They will keep trying to find ways to squeeze while being relatively secure in their monopolistic position. The purpose or functioning of the product takes second place to the profit motive. Once again capitalism ruins everything

I have feeling that after some mounths everyone will forget about it. And unity company will stay unpunished. Sad.

Company’s are about to beat the shit out of unity, also I think silksong is too far into development to switch, next game they make though? Definitely

Hahaha wow imagine wait for a game for 4 years and getting absolutely no updates to the development hahaha - A Lisa The Pointless fan

This is a good excuse for me not to start doing some basic unity stuff in my free time. I will say that things aren't that bad if they have all the artwork, and logic already developed and have to lift and shift it over to another engine. Frankly the worst part will be learning the new engines quirks and translating quirky fixes from unity to the new engine. Don't get me wrong it will take quite a while but its not that hard to copy someone elses work and its even easier when you are copying your work.

I cannot for the life of me FATHOM how this is a necessary thing Unity is doing and I frankly don't care. They suck for this and I feel so bad for the devs that rely on their engine....all good things come to an end I guess....

My gf has been waiting forever for Silksong - quite literally the only game she’s looking forward to. UNITY WHY

Its times like these I wonder if I even enjoy video games anymore...

Oh dear. I fear I'm going hollow.

Insider trading is one hell of a drug

Actually Unity developers just put out a notice that current versions of Unity won't get affected. Also people who use the personal plan are safe from this fee. So Silksong will proceed as planned given 1: the developers know about this policy change they announced not too long back and 2: they can continue to use the same version of Unity and not use any of the 2024 LTS versions. On top of that they also increased the amount where it starts charging you to 1 million dollars and above. While people rightfully will never trust Unity again, its a step in the right direction kinda.

I was saying this exact same thing to a friend who's been waiting forever for this game. If they have to swap everything over to Unity, it'll just delay it even further.

Hollow knight and Outer Wilds, my favorite games, made with unity...

Whats another 2-4 years?

Why Unity thought charging devs on a profit-per-installation basis, even though Steam, being the largest PC market, already takes a 30% cut, will forever be a mystery to me.

you know a game like silksong would have should have a smooth development on godot

I knew it would come out late 2023 early 2024, but now? 2027 to 2030, if they even have enough funding.

Ah shet… Looks like I have to wait another 5 years for silksong to come out, or if we’re lucky, Unity will back out and undo the policy.

As an aspiring game developer I’m very angry that Unity did this just as I finally got my great game idea together and started work. But happily I’m early enough in development that porting what I have to unreal won’t take that long

So funny how this is, like, legal. You could have been working on your magnum opus for the last decade and some suits can just take a hammer to it like "bing bong! go fuck yaself" with zero warning. The labor equivalent of lighting a giant pile of cash on fire.

love the jones version also unity can shove it

this is actually a nightmare

we cant have nice things...

In my restless dreams I see that Game... .p

When someone pays a subscription to use a service, that should be what cuts off a company like Unity from the final product. We should not have to deal with Unity deciding to profit off of games that have already been released, when those games were made with Unity's previous monetization model in mind and didn't make financial decisions based off stupid junk decisions like these. It should be out of Unity's hands, they shouldn't have the right. I pay the subscription, the thing you're offering is *mine now,* I *earned* it, your involvement *ends* there. I owe you *nothing* for using your service past that subscription. You want to make this apply to all future games? fine, that's *your* call, but these people who used your product in the past owe you *nothing,* you were *not* a part of those game's production, and you do *not* get to claim that you are owed a part of the profit. If you won't respect that then we'll all leave, go on, just try and make a profit now you screwball!

Amazing News! Unity makes astonishing move to Cuck its gamer consumer-base! will they roll over and continue to prove that being a gamer means shoveling money at anything of any quality? from no-mans-sky to Cyberpunk 2077, Gamers have shown that no matter how pissed they get, they still only know how to throw money to attack! will they ever learn? find out next week on GAMING!!GOSSIP. RIP Silksong

No matter who you are, where you are, how many mistakes you’ve made, take solace in the fact you have probably never f’d up as badly as this.

Maybe Silksong was just a beautiful dream 😭

It’s absolutely appalling to think that every device I install their game on would charge the developers again. It’s fucking ludicrous, almost as ludicrous as “what if we charged a dollar every time they wanted to reload?”. These execs are no longer human, they should not be treated as such.

Silk song believers finally realizing that silk song is a vaporware money sink on the level of star citizen

so this is how AAA game companies keep the indies from prospering

considering that the higher ups sold off all their shares before this announcement shows that it was their intention to sink the company. Even if they walk this back it shows they are interested in tanking their own company. Personally, I'm thinking of learning Godot for my own projects.

"Won't effect 90% of it's users" ... Like... 10% is a shit ton considering a lot of the users made games for fun, are still learning or just made a game quickly to try and make some quick money and failed.

The moment I remembered Silksong after this blew up I went "Owhhh shhit..... ... how ya doing r/hollowknight?"

I wanted to start learning how to make games with Unity a few months back. This might just be the first time I'm genuinely glad, that I struggle so much when it comes to picking up something new, because luckily, I haven't yet and just spend my time writing and making concept art.

The universe is conspiring against Hollow Knight fans.

You can tell they are Unity are Gamers, because they are speed running any% at losing as many customer/client base in 72 hours. Absolute madness.

this doesn't feel real man, i can't explain it. Like no company could be this stupid right? I have an idea. Everybody spam buy banban.

I wanna see them try & get a check from Nintendo

The world just won’t let us have Silksong, man… Screw the guy and/or girl that did this in Unity, I hope they stub their toe and get their coffee served lukewarm

I've said it before and I'll say it again: Executives should not be allowed to make decisions.

Shoutout to the shareholder in unity that sold his stocks like a week before that change was made. Seems legit

Ah the age old question: which will release first; Silksong or Winds Of Winter?

PAIN!!!

Eh, im sure this isn't even that big of a deal, it's gonna be just like the copppa situation. Right?