Silver Fang VS Flashy Flash IS Close… 

While using Garou is undoubtedly the best way we can scale their power, I think Bang has an advantage with fighting Garou because he knows and recognizes what martial arts Garou is doing and can rely on his experience to dodge and counter said attacks. Flashy Flash's fighting style is geared towards ninjutsu, which is more about decisive single strikes (like what is stated in the video, no sword, meaning he is nerfed to an extent) and not drawn out brawls. He is reacting and acting on the spot which is honestly very impressive seeing how long he lasted. If we reverse their roles and put Flashy Flash against lets say a monster on par Garou's strength at the time that uses ninja techniques and him having his sword. I would say that he would perform much better in that scenario.

The difference between Feral Garou and Awakened Garou is technique & decision-making.

commonly in martial arts you're reacting to the way someone telegraphs their movement so being able to counter a light speed punch doesn't mean you're actually light speed. also if we gonna go full logic here you can swing a sword at double the maximum speed of your fists so flash with sword = double combat speed of no sword?

If we follow the logic of your video, the battle is not for close. If we assume that sleeping garou and awake garou are equally strong (a statement in which I completely disagree). Bang would be on the same level as a garou using his breathing technique. While Flashy Flash was inferior to a Garou who did not use breathing and was also holding back (let's not forget that when Flashy was defeated Garou and Platinum increased their speed, although there are people who believe that Platinum made Garou evolve). Even so, the reason why I believe that sleeping and awake garou cannot be equally strong (apart from the absurdity that it is that someone who is asleep can perform at the same level as being conscious) is that human garou after losing his Monster form thinks he is stronger than bang. Theoretically, Garou is at a level comparable to just before he transforms into a monster. And he is equal or stronger than Bang, just like Garou sleeping monster is equal or stronger than Bang. But current human garou must be weaker than his monster version. There is also the fact that sleeping monster garou appears at the same moment in the story as pre-monster garou of the weeb comic (the one who fights with golden). Then Garou asks Bang to organize fights with heroes. Specifies that if he defeat them in order, he can achieve some awakening. And the roden he gives is bang, bomb (Murata claims that bomb is stronger than bang and in his fight against Garou he was weakened by healing Tank Top, although how Garou would know Bomb's maximum power I don't know, although he is a famous master), flashy flash, blast (maybe a mistake, since he should not fear memories of his fight or maybe he is telling how the one who punched him was blast, although in the same chapter he says that he does not know who it was, but This does not invalidate what is said in my opinion) and Saitama. The order garou provides is unrelated to the order in which he fight them in real life, and says he should fight them in that order. This has some inconsistencies that I already mentioned in the parentheses. It seems like One or Murara himself doing powerscaling and using Garou as a spokesperson, although don't make much sense that Garou has that knowledge (unless they provide us with more context). But in short, it seems that history tells us that flashy flash is stronger than bang. Sorry for the lot of text XD

As always this video has terrible powerscaling: 1.- Garou gets stronger as the fight goes on, Bang noticed this when they were fighting as he noticed he was performing attacks that only he and Bomb could do together, and he said it was a side effect of Garou turning into a monster... Also: THE MOMENT GAROU WOKE UP, BOMB (WHO UP TO THAT POINT WAS WATCHING HIS FIGHT WITH SILVER FANG, WAS SHOCKED, YOU CAN SEE IT ON HIS FACE). That alone would more or less prove he got indeed stronger. Also if you didn't notice it was so fast the manga had to put the clock and milliseconds there. 2.-Bang was barely keeping up with Garou and was bathing in his own blood. 3.-Garou had regeneration so even if the claim of how super strong the Exploding heart release fist was this still has no real value, Darkshine's tackle nearly killed Garou and he got back up (and this was when Darkshine was more powerful than Garou, Here Bang and Garou were evenly matched as Bang was having trouble. 4.-The scale of the Garou vs Platinum vs Flashy Flash fight is several times larger in speed and scale, Bang would've never kept up with them, even if Flashy couldn't he still did more tham what Bang could ever hope. 5.-Every point in the constelation is a point where they clashed or where they were jumping around the debbrie. And Flashy was able to last a lot and withstand a lot of physical damage from both Garou and Platinum (even if Garou didn't want to kill him, Garou in all of his previous battles, brutalized the heroes he fought against, he didn't do with Darkshine because he saw his self insert). 6.-Garou performed the God Calamity Slayer fist on Platinum and Garou at the end of chapter 155 (and that fist includes the exploding heart release fist). How could Bang would even defeat Flashy with the exploding heart release if Flashy was able to withstand that technique (with a lot of others and kept fighting after that). How do people listen at your bs as if it was the truth? Like seriously I know you are likely reading so pls this video is terrible. You would only get the absolute support from the bang wankers of reddit 🤮.

Are you implying Bang can move at the speed Garou and Platinum sperm were moving at? The difference in speed gives the advantage to flashy already. The moment flashy realized Platinum and Garou were faster than him he was able to dodge a kick from Garou, even if he was faster so why wouldnt he react to Bang? (in chapter 156) The Garou that Flashy fought was a lor faster than when he fought Bang. (and Flashy could still react to him).

Thinking FF cant react or keep up with Bang's combat speed is wild ngl.

Cockroach isn't stated as the speed of light, it's just him having instincts as to his opponents next move, like if I knew you were going to punch me and I dodge, it's not because I'm faster than your fist, it's because I knew where you were going to punch. If you pointed a gun at my head and you told me you were going to shoot me in 2 seconds, then I move, I'm not faster than you're bullet, I just know where you're going to shoot, same principal. ik ik run on sentences. If you see this then pls respond.

One is definitely on the level of a weaker form, while the other was embarrassed by a stronger form, so this is quite matched.

I just don't see Bang performing as well or better than flash in his fight with Garou and platinum. Garou insinuated flash was stronger when he says he wants to fight bomb Bang flash and Saitama in order to reach an awakening without Monsterification. Garou while awake was without a doubt MUCH more powerful than asleep.

Guys, badminton players, just as an example, can react to smashes coming at more than 200 km/h speed, while of course they cannot run at the speed of 200 km/h. So yes, it is possible to react to things much much faster than our movement speed while moving much slower. If a normal human can react to 200 km/h of a very little shuttle and sand it back, than surely Fang can react to light speed attacks

That's what I commented on yacine video , bang is not fast in zipping around and manoeuvring around enemies but he is kind of at peak in reacting to anything hitting him and dodging and deflecting that hit and also countering. so yeah, your analysis is superior to other people in my opinion.

Just ignoring the massive difference in power between sleeping garou and awake garou makes zero sense . Take for example his fight with darkshine . He was even with darkshine until he woke up lmao . This video is just not accurate . I applaud your efforts but your missing some really obvious points here .

Personally I think flashy flash would win though it’s high diff it’s very close

Thank you for the shoutout, definitely enjoyed the video

Terrible video, the story put a literal timer on the screen to emphasize Garous strength after waking up why would they do that if he didn't get any stronger

Good arguments, I respectfully disagree. A full on assault from even imperfected Godslayer fist should definitely be more powerful than just a graze from Roaring sky bleh bleh fist, a sleeping Garou although fair should still be at the same level of strength and speed, is definitely weaker in terms of skill, the techniques he was using against Bang were on instinct and he was definitely not fighting like an awake Garou would, and sure Flashys attacks with his hands and feet aren't that good his attacks with a weapon should be a very serious treat. Bang should have the reaction speed and combat speed to hang with Flash, skill to outdo him, but his AP is not good enough to put down flash, and flash needs to hit like one Flashy Slash to kill him, and although Bang can hang in speed with flash, flashy is definitely still way faster than him in movement speed, the speed feat he showed is too great to be even compared to a Bang vs Sleeping Garou, a Garou again I say that was moving, attacking and using techniques on instinct. So yeah fair its a close fight, but Flashy should be able to win 7/10 times.

11:00 can we talk about that transition though? That was smooth!

FF with his sword mops the floor with Bang.

Also claiming Garou never got stronger after his fight with Bang is braindead. Garou in all of his previous figts got stronger. While fighting Rover While fighting Orochi While figthing Darkshine While figthing Bomb And when He fought Bang. Bang said he was getting more skilled by performing greater attacks that only he and Bomb could do together. And when he woke up he got faster and stronger. Bomb who was watching his fight with Bang never reacted like he did when Garou woke up, and it is something you can see in chapter 154. Claiming he didn't got stronger is just bias in your part. The whole point of Garou's Journey is that he got stronger after every fight, until he fought the only he could never defeat. Garou got stronger after every fight and even while figthing Saitama even if he didn't win. Also claiming Bang could speedblitz The monsters like Garou did is braindead because Vomitted Fuhrer Ugly was about to melt Bang had it not being for Garou. How do f, do you think Bang could withstand the acid if Even Darkshine got burned and his skin is by far stronger than that of Bang. Like seriously.

Every time he says God Fist, I head Dog Fist.

Also man i posted this in a yacine vid. But claiming Characters like G4 Genos and Awakened Cockroach can be lightspeed is just plain braindead. Consider that at lightspeed you can travel around the world 7 times in a second. How would they even achieve this? Like seriously. And not they aren't as fast The S class heroes had to work together to take down Psyorochi (Bang, Atomic, Darkshine, Genos, Drive Knight, Puri Puri, Tank Top Fodder). Genos and Drive Knight were the only ones that could chase that thing and keep up with the others were like a support. If you compare this to the speedsters fight of Platinum, Garou and Flashy. It is clear as day they weren't as fast. (That feat makes faster than light with actual proof as they were fighting all on the sky of Z city in fractions of a second and nobody knew it was them. The helicopter that was recording the fight of the Jetpsyrochi and just because they saw it, it means they weren't as fast as the speedsters. Again claiming G4 Genos and Awakened Cockroach could be lightspeed is just dumb. Given all the feats of the story Genos dodging lasers and Awakened Cockroach "dodging light" because he had increased senses could that could predict danger (like the spider-sense). Pls is like you don't read the story at all and just overscale the feats to oblivion.

I think the argument of why people say garou vs flashy flash and plat s is stronger than the one that fought bang is because awakened garou is more refined and more powerful than the one that fought bang

would bang be able to make a lightshow though?

While awakened cockroach why just hyping himself up and beams are not lightspeed generally + they curve which light does not do, flashy flash has an onscreen feat of being FTL, also the guide books that talks about him being the fastest was also talking about his slashes the sentence prior connecting the two, so id say flash wins Plus since garou using the martial art hes more skilled with only scratched bang, which technique wouldnt apply as much as an imperfect proper punch against flash, it also makes sense that garou would use the more effective martial art even if its not his most comfortable

FF high diff prop

I didn’t watch the vid yet but my take going into this is that Flashy should take it. Gonna be a somewhat long breakdown but instead of editing I’ll just reply to this comment if anything in the vid makes me change my mind on the verdict or any of the points He’s got better durability and speed feats, and most likely has better physical strength scaling than Bang, and that’s without his sword which dramatically increases his AP and can block attacks that can shred through his durability I believe that Sleeping Garou is inferior to Awake Garou even in terms of stats based on the Darkshine showings, but even if we disregard that- Bang’s durability was ‘low’ (air quotes) enough to get one shotted by Garou merely grazing his body, and the shockwaves from Garou’s blows could pulverize his bones if they hit. And he did end up losing to his chest getting grazed by a punch Thus most likely means his physical strength doesn’t exactly stack up to Garou as much as his technique is able to redirect and not take the full force of Garou’s attacks. The counter point is Bang’s punch cracking Garou’s shell, but WSRSF redirects the opponents own strength and sends it back at them either 2 fold or higher as Bang mastered it way better than beginning of the Hero Hunt Human Garou did. And speed wise, One and Murata made it a point to show that the speed of Garou during the Platinum and Flash fight was on another level compared to anything we’ve seen from him before, and the constellations was just travel/movement speed. As for Flash, his physical durability is high enough to take direct hits from Garou, and even if you say he wasn’t using the same techniques he used against Bang at first, Flash took an entire barrage from MCGSF which combined every martial art Garou knows into one, so it would include the shockwaves that could pulverize Bang’s bones and the level of explosive strength that could graze Bang and one shot him. So flash has better durability Usually physical durability and physical strength go hand and hand, so Flash should be superior there too, but even if we say his strength shouldn’t automatically scale, he was able to clash with Garou and suppressed Platinum S (Garou wasn’t suppressed per say, as much as he was evolving in the battle), and Flash was also able to draw blood from Platinum S with punches. Platinum S was stronger than Garou when they first started fighting, and Platinum S is a pure physical character with no energy system based power, so while he can suppress his speed and striking power, his durability should remain constant unless they’re a special case like Darkshine who can amp his durability by flexing etc As for speed wise, the 3 were able to exchange several blows in the midst of those constellation sequences so their actual combat and reaction speed scales higher than the actual constellation’s speed, whatever that may be. And it’s pretty clearly implied that it’s on another level of speed compared to anything Garou has shown before…in which he was just matching Bang in speed Last but not least, skill. Bang is most likely more skilled than Flash based on merit in the same way Flash should be faster than Bang based on merit (and feats/scaling), but Flash should be relatively close, considering the fact that while he was on the losing end, he was able to have several hundred (based on the constellations and what not) exchanges with an awake…so more skilled Garou than the one that fought Bang, and fighting Flash and Platinum forced Garou to evolve his skill and technique even more to create MCGSF. And that’s Flash using purely hand to hand when he’s primarily a swordman, so if we take overall skill with his sword into account, the gap between him and bang is even more narrow skill wise

The mistake you made is your failure to realise that Monster Garou abd Cracked Garou are two different forms. Yes, they are different levels in Garou's evolution. Garou does not simply "wake up" after beating Bang. He wasn't asleep at all. His body had undergone MONSTERIZATION and after Bang managed to break through his armour he had DE-MONSTERIZED. That's the entire point of the fight - Bang attempting to reclaim the humanity within Garou and bringing him back from his monster form. Remember the chapter where Fubuki, Bang and Bomb faced Do-S and her monster slaves. That's when it became Bang's mission to fight and save Garou from becoming a monster. And this he was successful in at the end of his fight with Monster Garou. So your argument about Garou simply gaining better muscle coordination because he had woken up from his slumber (as was the case when he faced Darkshine) isn't correct because Garou did not wake and instead transformed back to a human. Also, it is very much like Garou to grow in strength after facing and overcoming a challenging opponent. Bang definitely was in control during the entirety of the fight and his role as the master to Garou definitely made him a significant obstacle in Garou's path. So it makes sense why he'd suddenly become so kuch stronger and therefore it is obvious that Flashy did face an overwhelmingly more powerful version of Garou. Further, if the mangas authors really wanted to show us that Monster Garou and Cracked Garou were comparable in terms of their overall abilities, they could simply showcase much more impressive feats of speed and power in the Garou vs. Bang fight, so that it would seem a lot closer to the three-way light speed clash in terms of scaling. They would not want the readers to come up with unnecessarily complicated theories just to make sense of a fight. The visual evidence too is strongly in favour of Flashy being leagues above Bang, as it shows him to be capable of tanking hits from Garou using God Slayer Fist, shows Platinum S' concern over his abilities even when he was greatly weakened and most of all, it shows that these characters were moving at such speeds that their trails created geometric structures of light which could be seen by everyone on the battlefield. Had Bang show any feats of speed nearly as impressive as Flashy's, said feat would have also been emphasised the same way Flashy's was. Therefore, for the many many reasons that i have listed here, your argument doesn't work.

Pretty Based, but I disagree with a few things. I think FF wins more times than not. Firstly you saying Bang would read Ff like a book by the fact he read Garou like a book. You forget that Bang was Garou’s teacher, and taught him water stream and is very familiar with Bombs technique. Bang said himself you can’t teach an old dog new tricks, so I doubt he can learn a completely different style like a book. I see FF as similar to a prime Bang, as he is in his prime age and has just about mastered ninjutsu. Bang of course has accumulated more skill, but has lost his sharpness that he once had as he stated. Endurance will be a major factor with characters near each other level, and Bang lacks endurance as he stated he gets tired quickly now as an old man in an OVA PS also said “so this is the level a mere human can reach”, which I think puts the nail in the coffin. I argue FF is the best well rounded, Atomic is the best swordsman but is overly reliant on his sword, and Bang is the most skilled but lacks endurance due to his age.

Idk why this is a debate. Bang humiliates Flash. Being unconscious and asleep are different things first, and it was OBVIOUSLY implied that sleeping Garou was weaker then awake Garou when he went from doing nothing to dark to humiliating him plus the added context saying he was stronger after we woke up.

Cool video,but what of Speed o' Sound Sonic fought Bang or flashy flash?

Thank you bro Y’all can cry in the comments.

I thank that the reason flash is considered faster is bc of that how much emphasis was put on speed in the battle royal with FF PS and Garou. Aslo when Garou attacked all of the monsters beforehand as King was doing his "ultimate move". In garous fight with bang, I feel like more emphasis is but on fighting skill and combat abilty. I understand that throught scaling you could say that Bang could hypothetically do move like FF but I think that murata and one, in the three way fight, were really trying to point out that this is a fight that is taking place waay faster than anything seen before. In my opinion Flash is faster, but this was a well made and thought out video and I respect your opinion.

All i heard was king victims🗿

Could you do video about Flash having the Solar blade Atomic Samouraï received recently ? Great video btw !

Can you do a video on garou vs the justice league

Webcomic Bang >>> Flashy Flash, but manga Flashly Flash > Bang

W video as always. Happy to see what you cook

great vid keep it up

The thing with Bang is he can make up for "lack" of stats through martial arts and pure skill, he can keep up with faster opponents by moving and reacting before they even start moving, that's how Garou also countered Saitama even when Saitama was going even faster than him both in the webcomic and manga. I feel like the match up is still pretty bad for Bang as he would deal against opponents like Darkshine better than against Flashy Flash but that would only apply if Flash has his sword, without it Bang stomps and with it it's close but Flash wins, on the other hand I feel like Flash would lose against Darkshine due to lack of offensive power while Bang would definitely be able to break through with exploding heart release and awakened breath.

Flashy flash kills him it ain't close

Great vid, keep up the good work 😁

shouldve waited until saitama vs flash but still good vid

I didn't get a reply last time, but I can't find the official manga for OPM? I view fan versions but they leave some panels out and I'd really love to read over the original text

Considering flashy flash was actually going blow for blow against 2 of them, flashy flash is way more tanky than bang. Who what flashy flash could have done if he had a sword

Would you continue on your s class how strong video series, I missed that.

You’re getting cooked in these comment ngl

I appreciate this analysis. This is the first time I've seen someone actually acknowledge the difference between combat speed and movements speed, much less any of the other salient points you've made. Good video!

I didn't bat an eye to thinking about this fight, but I was thinking about a dozen ways how either could come out on top. Grand video, sir. Recommendation: I think it would be interesting to see Saitama vs The Rest of the Hero Association. The outcome would be quite obvious and it would be a pretty long video, but it would be cool to see in what situations Saitama would get closest to losing if the rest of the Hero Association worked together.

Solid video!

I reckon with the breathing technique, Bang wins but without, Flashy flash wins. I don't think Bang is as fast as flashy flash but I do think his reaction speed is around the same if not slightly supperior. I'm going for flashy flash wins 6/10

Silver Fang vs Gouketsu, who do you have winning?(it should be an obvious pick but I wanted to know your opinion on how that fight would go down?)

You thought we won't notice that awesome gamabunta theme

silver fang fought whilst holding back no to kill a unconsious monster garou who has the fullest intention of killing a person whilst flashy flash tho doesn't have his main weapon strugled against a consious garou who would never kill a human by a million chance so yeah i think silver fang still have the upper hand here

But is t800 vs every animatronic from fnaf close?

Well done man, pretty good video. I knew I wasn’t crazy for thinking that bang would win based on how they performed against Garou. I also like the fact that you bought up that Garou was weaker when he’s sleep due to him being sluggish in technique and the fact he wasn’t sluggish against bang. You my friend are a great power scaler.

Now do flaahy flash vs atomic samurai

In garou vs fang bang states that fang had multiple opening to go on the offense with his explosion(?) Fist but refuses because he wants to save garou the same way his brother did and garou had only to focus on bang while flash even with a surprise attack couldnt hit garou

flash is highly overrated. that said I give flash a small advantage over fang but its not much

me tryna wonder what is ap and dc is

Bang snapped garou out of his killing intent. He was arguably "weaker" post bang fight until he transforms further. He was only asleep when he destroyed PPP and then fought Darkshine

How about flashy flash versus atomic samurai

I think it is also worth mentioning that bang was holding back against garou since he didn't use explosive heart release fist

How would you think the battle would turn out if Bang decided to also use Exploding Heart Release Fist? Would it change anything at all or just leave it the same?

You changed my mind, I assumed that Garou was automatically weaker when asleep.

What happend to Meruem vs. Sukuna

So basically Batman with no gear vs King Arthur

w video (rover victims)

Very very early

I agree to all the info... ☺️☺️

we need king vs saitama.

i'm not subscribing, good video tho

No it’s basi flam

bing bong yowch yowch boin zoing

Yo

Alright a couple of notes: First, I don't think it's fair to say Garou is asleep in the first place, it seems closer to he is monsterised to a state where he can't talk, unlike when he is asleep with Darkshine, he actively uses techniques and adapts with observation, he also remembers what was happening during the fight unlike with Darkshine. Second: Garou wins with worse but relative technique than Bang but has superior power (Bang lands a direct hit, Garou grazes, Bang is deflecting but damage from the shockwaves are adding up). Third: Flashy Flash, is flat outclassed by Garou, he is slower, has worse technique, has less power, additionally, I'd say most importantly we see Garou (who we know has worse technique than Bang) redirect flowing shadow feet. Taking this into account particularly third and second reasons, just as a match up, we know Flashy Flash can have blows redirected by someone with worse skill, there's no reason to assume that Bang with superior skill, wouldn't be able to deflect those same blows.

I think Bang would win in my opinion, but I'm not a expert

İf we are considering bang as fighting and landing critical hits on full powered monster garou, we will also need to say that Bang is probably stronger than King Orochi. İs he really that strong?

yo 4th comment and 4 min ago i will tell me opinions after i watch though edit i agree with it

Great vid man, completely agreed, bang > flashy flash

Been saying this man. I legit have multiple comments I think maybe even in this page explaining myself and everyone always says I’m wrong as if I don’t know what I’m talking about. It’s not that hard to read the manga and it’s mad annoying being called out like I’m not a fan. Validation is sweet

NAH flashy flash is cuter so he wins no diff

Flashy flash is probably stronger than Tatsumaki as well ngl, this guy is op

I mean, if anyone still has any arguements, remember this is a guy who's in his 30s vs an 80+ year old man. Bang in his prime would fold flashy flash over 3 times before he even realizes

Old Bang wins mid difficulty Prime Young Bang wins low difficulty

bang just one hits with the breathing technique

*Finally an accurate video on Bang vs Flash!* Thank you! Bang is literally said to be the best martial artist in the verse, and ninjutsu IS a martial art! And Flash is not even THE BEST ninja in the verse! "That man" is! In other words Bang is stated to be at the top of the whole category, while Flash is SECOND in the same SUBCATHEGORY. I've also being pointing out that Water Fist WORKS ON SWORDS and ANY PHYSICAL ATTACKS, so it doesn't matter if Flash has a sword or not against Bang. Also, your commentary on the whole "sleeping Garou is weaker" controversy was very well explained - one thing I would add, is that Garou, while asleep, was way more dangerous that awakened Garou. Why? Because he had morals off. He almost MURDERED Fubuki, he would've caved her face in if Bomb didn't stop him at the last second. Awakened Garou would never do that. When he was fighting Bang, he was actually trying his best to murder him on the spot. When Garou was fighting Flash, he WASN'T TRYING TO KILL HIM. So he wasn't actually going all out at all. There is no reason to think Flash can win this. All of arguments that go in his favor are either based on hype or completely baseless. My last argument I'd use to prove Flash loses would be his low feats performance. Flash consistently has issues dealing with demon level monsters, which should be unheard of if he is as strong as people suggest that he is. Think about all of the monsters he fought. 100-eyed Octopus? A demon level - he failed to defeat it even though he hit it hundreds of times. Then Tatsumaki comes and one shots it. Gale Wind? He tries to blitz and one shot him SOLO and he fails, even though he had killing intent. That was BEFORE he decided to wait for a 1 hit double KO. Human form Gale is below Sonic level in speed (after redraws, Sonic easily handled both Gale and Hellfire without going into his shadow burial techniques) and is a demon level. Compare that record to Bang, who was shown to kill every single demon level he faced in one combo without fail. Fist Fight Jin? Instant stomp. Human Garou at the dojo? Instant stomp. The reason why everybody claims Flash has superior record to Bang is because he was able to defeat Hellfire and Gale, transformed, at the same time, but somehow everybody keeps forgetting that: - He was nearly killed in that encounter, there are panels of him taking heavy hits and bleeding. It was never a stomp! - He already had troubles fighting them in their human forms, and in context it can be argued they became LESS powerful when they transformed, because of them "abandoning their ninja ways" which can be taken at them dropping in skill, on top of Flash's claim that their human brains can not keep up with their monster speed. And last but not least - after Cosmic Garou fight ends, Garou tells Bang that he will stay with him, because HE IS THE ONLY ONE HE CAN SPAR WITH WITHOUT INSTANTLY WINNING. So he remembers fighting Flash, but thinks he isn't worthy, while Bang is? How much more direct can he be? Talk about scaling to Garou! Ufff!

Bang is stronger mid dif. It has been stablished he is the third stronger hero behind blast and tornado.

I like the analysis and I'm on board. The difference wouldn't be speed, which I estimate actually puts Bang above Flash where we differentiate the speed at which each one excels is Flash's ability to traverse space from one point to the next at light speed and Bang's combat speed which includes the ability to observe, consider a course of action, then execute that course at a speed which would have to be 'faster than light' in order for him to effectively respond to attacks that do occur at light speed, but everything else that makes up the whole combatant, in which case Bang is much more substantially the man and fighter than Flash.

bang vs flashy flash. winner: Bang (mid-high diff)

Both Gouketsu victims

finally someone who deosn't underrate bang and doesn't say "flashy flash wins because he fought against both platinum s and garou without his weapon 🤓"

Bang really is that guy he folds flashy

I saw a video of flashu flash giving bang sloppy toppy is it canon? I think its canon