As someone originally from the UK, where 98% of vehicles are stick shift, the “lifting collar” method of going into reverse is has been commonly used by a number of manufacturers since the mid 80’s. It’s a stroke of genius by Simagic as it virtually eliminates erroneous shifts into reverse. For sure, this bad boy is on my purchase list.
I'll agree that the lift collar reverse is quite familiar to people who've used gearboxes from the likes of Vauxhall and even some Ford's of the 90s. I'll disagree however that 98% of all cars on the UK roads being manual THESE DAYS though. With EVs and premium marques becoming very very common on the road i'd propose the market share of autos has increased massively in the last 10 years
My WRX had a collar lockout for reverse. I don't think it's normal for a car to have a lockout for any of the forward gears. Admittedly, I've never owned or driven a manual car with more than 6 forward gears though.
Some more modern Subarus have them, I've never been in older ones so I don't know. I know 80s corvettes have them too and they're great for me keeping my dumb ass out of reverse on the highway
About 90% of cars I've driven feature a lift up collar, like in the video, to get reverse. Only a very few cars I've encountered need a "push down" to engage reverse, In fact thinking about it Ford is the only manufacturer that needs a "push down", at least here in the "Drivers that can drive" territories.
yea in germany there are three types of manuals i believe. pulling up the shaft, pushing down and for third theres also pressing to the left and then pressing through the block to get into reverse (some bmw's have this) @@OCRacing
@@OCRacing sadly as-is the case in the US. We're one of the few countries that doesn't teach how to drive a manual unless you go out of your way to learn.
I've had this shifter for just over 4 months now and I can tell you I agree with everything in this review. As an H-Pattern shifter it is excellent! Solid tactile feel throughout no matter what resistance you have it at. Slides easily into each gear. Rarely do I blow a shift. The Sequential option is great for a 2 in one solution. Especially for the price. It does the job. However, if you want a real solid "chonk" feel when shifting it's not going to do the trick. You really can 't dial up the tension without it sticking so the tactile feel is a little light. Being I like the "chonk" I'm probably going to go with a Q1 or Q1s to take on the sequential duties. Great shifter over all though. I believe worth the money comparable to others in the price/quality range.
FYI all Simagic Shifters, Handbrakes wheels and pedals will work on Playstation 4 and 5 with the purchase of their Sigma Cortex adapter. I use a Simagic M10 with P2000 Pedals on PS5 with the adapter and it's really amazing.
The lift up mechanism is great. I find it very hard to get into reverse on the Fanatec one and 7th is even more awkward when you want to shift smothly. Still better than the Thrustmaster one without a lock.
Short shifters like coolerworx's aftermarket shifter work the same way with reverse. You lift the gate and slide over past 1st and push up to get into 'R'. Just like your video
DS-8X is amazing shifter. I bought the simagic carbon shift knob which was pretty cheap and looks good as I didn’t like the one that it came with I found it to be to oversized and a long straight stick knob off of Amazon for sequential mode.
You must be a little kid who has never driven a real vehicle before when it comes to cars almost 85% of them manuals are pull up to get into reverse like what ? Have you never driven a real car ?
You have just convinced me not to get this. Way too expensive. For that price, it shouldn't have any issues. I would rather buy the Moza H-Shifter and Moza Sequential shifter as a combo. Still cheaper and I will enjoy it just as much.
I'll let you know I'm using a full simagic setup: alpha mini, p1000, ds-8x and the new hydraulic handbrake they just dropped, on my PS5 with GT7. It's far more fun than my old T248. You need a Sigma Cortex which I sure is sold by Simagic is all but name, in case they get sued. It's about half the per-device licensing fee for PS5 capable devices at $115 and tricks your PS5 into thinking its a G29 (I think, I'm still working this out). There are a multitude of adjustments you can make on the device to tune it on its little screen. You might want to check it out though it only works with simagic devices so you need to be in the ecosystem and have the can-bus to run all devices thru their wheel base. Still cheaper than paying the ridiculous upcharge for PS5 licensed products, of which there are few at Simagic level of quality. That $150 (for the can-bus and cortex) means I can play any simcade or simulation game available atm, well worth the cost.
2:12 this is something that some real life cars use, it's not a race car but I've driven a Hyundai Accent with that style of lockout for reverse and 1st gear. Personally that's the only car I've seen with a pull up lockout but I'm sure there's plenty of other cars that have used something similar.
Have you ever heard of the SRT gearbox ? This is one of the best sim racing shifter, fully adjustable, very fairly priced, but you have to build it yourself, since the creator doesn't sell it fully assemble for now, i finished building mine 1 week ago and i'm blown by the feeling it can be mounted from the bottom and side, offered LHS and RHS version, and some really cool mod, like clutch, block shifting if the clutch is not pressed for the price, it can range from 130€ to maximum 200€ depending if you already have some parts
Ask pxn to send you a pxn v99 snd review as it pxn new budget wheel with pedals wheel and shifter snd i review of it would be great to see how it compares to pxn v10 please also amazing video
I have this shifter, and I am annoyed with the resistance ajustment, but I saw a sollution while watching your video, a 3D printed hex-knob and leave it in the adjuster. Then I dont need to figure out where I put that allen key each time.
my 65 alfa 105 uses the lift on the gear shirt for reverse ,but my ferrari uses the gated shifter with the push down reverse, so i think the gated shifter with dog leg 1st gear would be more authentic in my opinion
My Kia Stonic has this very same gearbox layout, with 6 gears and reverse in the same place. I've the DS-8X and feels fairly ok as an H-pattern (but I find myself mishifting 3rd gear at times), sequential feels a bit rigid and bit too slow (possibly it would feel more up to the task with the long vertical knob). Overall a very good product, not surely on the cheap entry level tier.
I'll have to wait for the fanatec comparison vid. Since I have the fanatec shifter but H pattern feels a little sloppy to me no matter how much resistance I add
BDH is great but extremely expensive, the DS-8X provides still a very good shifting experience with the added sequential bonus, so I would go with it when considering the cost
I have this same shifter just got it love it so far I also made bigger mounting holes to the bottom plate so no need for the bracket and is much more solid in my opinion
Are you aware of any other sq/H shifters. I play a lot of wrc and it requires the ability to switch between h pattern and sq all the time. I would imagine then that this is the best option
These videos are amazing quality. The B-roll cinematography and editing is top notch. Awesome to be seeing this type of quality in the sim racing community.
It doesn't come anywhere near either in terms of feel or build quality. With BDH launching their new dual mode shifter any day now, it's going to be interesting
@@OCRacing I can’t wait to get started building it and get working on settings/calibration but because it’s going behind the bar in my basement I need to set up the monitor stand first. That should be arriving in January sometime. In the meantime I think I can get started inverting my p1000s and putting the haptics on them.
@laurencetalman no, its 2900 and some change, got the bill and teeth to prove it. It's nothing, it makes 0 difference, 10%, 20% would make a difference. 3% or 5% might as well just keep it.
The Chevrolet Cobalts, and some of the Corvettes (as far as I know, I've never even been inside a Vette) have the same reverse lockout method. My dad told me the first time he test drove a Corvette it took him a minute to figure out how to get into reverse.
LOL I took a Chevy Aveo for a test drive years ago and the GF and I couldn't figure out the reverse lockout. Ended up just getting out and pushing it backwards to get going again after pulling into a parking lot.
@@elbowsout6301 Here's my idea. If any dealership gets a manual transmission car with some kind of lockout on reverse gear, any salesman should know, and tell any customer who wants to test drive. "Hey Jim, the Chevy Cobalt has a reverse gear lockout. If anyone wants to test drive it, tell them. I can help them if they can't figure it out."