Simon Jordan & Stefan Borson REACT To Nottingham Forest's Points Appeal Being REJECTED 😱 | talkSPORT 

As a forest fan the 4 point deduction we take on the chin and move on. But if someone did a league table on where all prem teams would be now from bad refs/var decisions going for and against all teams then forest would be getting close to the 40points. If we do go down it will be down to how shite the pgmol have been this season

How did football progress for 160 years without this complete BS. Football has died for me over the last 2 years. This is NOT what Football should be all about.

It’s fking scandalous that a promoted club should be forced to sell a player like Brennan Johnson at a loss in order to comply with so called sustainability rules. It was a temporary 50 day breach of a loss limit that has not been uplifted to account for inflation for 15 years. It’s stinks. The premier league don’t want a competitive league. They want a league where the same top clubs take it in turns to finish 1 to 6, and the rest are just cannon fodder. The great game of football and the competitiveness of the English top league has been slowly eroded away because of greed and self preservation by the establishment. It’s shite.

Come on Forest finish it on the pitch on Saturday. PL CORRUPT

I am glad I first watched football without VAR and football shows without bland Auditors as guests. Soon league tables will be replaced profit/loss statements and clean sheets with balance sheets. The Premier League is in full self-destruct mode.

Got to keep the relegation battle going as long as possible.

The way in which the Premier League has gone after Everton and Forest has been like a child doing their homework at 10pm the night before it is due to be handed in. Getting heavy handed so late in the day in a pathetic bid to fend off government prying eyes is ridiculous.

Clubs coming up out of the Championship don’t need allowances, they just need a level playing field. In the prem you can lose £105m over 3 years, which is £35m per season. We lost £34.5m in our ONE season in the prem. It’s this ridiculous system of including financial results from prior seasons spent in the Championship, just so they can judge promoted clubs on their arbitrary 3 year cycle. Just drop that silly parameter and allow newly promoted clubs to lose up to £35m in the first season, a combined £70m in the second season and a grand total of £105m come season three, if they’re still in the league, and this lunacy would simply go away.

How about you stop the top clubs spending so much instead

If our appeal was insufficient why then wait till after the weekend rather than announce it last Wednesday that it was rejected. That’s made this process look worse

Man City Charges? Chelsea's Charges?

Funny how the smaller clubs get caught ..while the big boys pay huge wages and transfer fees ..dodgy owners but don’t get caught ..hmmm I wonder why, lol what bs.

6 teams try to dismantle the best league in the world and get a £3m fine. Two separate arguments but the paradigm is broken.

Hope Forest survive, I think the Premier League sent a message to all non top 6 clubs, to simply not have ambition, this was nothing to do with fair play. However, they have just proved how corrupt the Premier League actually is. I am embarrassed that they did no punishment on Manchester City and now there is talk that Leicester will begin on a points deduction.

Man city hearing is in 2045

How can you say it will be quicker going forward , Man City been going on for years already, 115 charges. Forest been going on for months and its 1 charge, laughable

More Corruption from the FA. The only reason Forest's appeal was rejected, was the relegation battle would've been over and Luton being relegated. FA still wanted the relegation battle to go to the last day. Didn't see that coming 😂 Everton win theirs, but not Forest. It's almost a joke. But City still go another Decade without punishment. Pathetic Football Association

It does seem that they have been targeting Notts Forest this season on a number of fronts to keep the relegation fight going until the final day of the season.

Not surprised tbh Forest have been treated like a joke. I really hope we stay up now😊

@5.13 don’t worry! There’s no risk of anyone going “overboard with sympathy for Nottingham Forest” 🙄👀 Just a little would be a change. But not to worry. We will enjoy staying up anyway! Waka waka

Financial Fair Play has never been about saving small clubs. It's always been about protecting the people and clubs at the top already. Quite right what Jordan said about the fact Forest had 2 seasons of Championship income and absolutely no team to compete.

It’s scary to think this guy used to work for Citeh, who’s to say he isn’t still on the books as a consultant?

The teams comming up have no chance of staying up

For the start of the 25/26 season accounts should be published at the end of each transfer window. The premier league accounts should have a target they expect to see. If said club fails, an immediate 6pt deduction is placed with an appeal process that takes no longer than 2 months. This gives time for both clubs and the independent commission to get accounts in order and have time to hear each case. Then a new target can be delivered for their next bi-annual review. Not that I rate the league in general, but the Spanish fa had the right idea to introduce an app that would not allow you to sign new players and it updated every transfer window The Premier League love to be promoted as a glitz and glamour / high end football experience. But lift that veil and it's anything but They need an entire rework of the system and root out the ineptitude that's been allowed to fester

Premier league need to revise the amounts you can lose and give some extra allowance to promoted teams so they are not hamstrung if they look to strengthen squads with the aim of staying in the league.

Can’t understand why you have a man on to discuss it when his background was advisor to Man City during a time they are alleged to have broken 115 rules

Adviser to man city...says it all

A fractional point lol? Any fraction of a point is basically a point because no one else has fractional points! 0.1 above Luton = as good as 1 point

There are pre-trial reviews in criminal cases and I think in civil ones. The idea is for the judge to narrow down the issues and make the trial shorter and more manageable. There is no reason at all why the PL should not do this. If they had, Manchester City's case would be heard in a considerably shorter time and probably on specimen charges i.e. the most serious ones rather than throwing the book or several books at them.

Why would we sell player A?? For less than we sold him for!!!! Absolutely ridiculous

Asking a lawyer if the Premier League is getting too heavily focused on legal issues is like asking a barber if people are getting too many haircuts

Will piss myself laughing if Everton get their two points back😂😂

No more motivation needed in Nunos team talk vrs Chelsea on Saturday.COYR stick it to em ! Corrupt, yes men !

I dont understand how any club coming up into the premier league is expected to compete when we wont let them spend money even tho their owners can afford to put the money in... what an absolute joke the Premier league is

I feel like this is getting too much air time. It’s beyond tedious

when are we going to see the 115 charges for Man City. This is such a stitch up

Odd timing

Lucky they were allowed to appeal. Luton coyldnt appeal their -30. We wont forget

10:57 If we got 4 points for one breach... Then man city should be automatically relegated. But in that time they're impacting teams in this league... Rules are set to change... Even so the breaches need to be dealt with according to the rules at the time they were breached, regardless of the rule changes. We will see how far the corruption goes.

how did they lose the appeal, but Everton get back points and the broke PSR for 2 seasons we we only broke it for one? If we got 2 points back that would have been Burley relegated. Seems strange when there is a relegation battle happening, this stinks or corruption and getting more eyes and press on the relegation battle and less stress on the PG LOL because Burnley rightly so would have kicked off because they would have been relegated. This whole season has been a joke.

how much Revenue does the chelsea Hotel bring into Chelsea fc, and can all clubs do this?

This is totally unfair to Everton and Forest. It is all designed to give the top 6 clubs a large advantage. How can other clubs compete with the likes of Liverpool, Arsenal, Man Utd etc?

Given that both Man City and Chelsea should be sent to the National League north and south respectively NF and Luton should be safe. If that doesn't happen then the EPL and FA are a joke.

Sadly it’s a shame that the rules aren’t geared to fair competition throughout the league but then again nothing is sadly these days seems riches is power rather than a will to actually formulate teams and off field teams to be the best through even competition. However as a Forest fan we knew the rules and sadly our owner and the team took a chance that we would be far enough away to see the risk vs reward achieve what they hoped.And If we stay up they may argue it was worth it . But we got what we deserved but hopefully with the right media scrutiny they will be enough pressure to make sure the next set of rules work towards even competition on and off the field however based on current rules being discussed we will still have the elite 6 ruling the roost. Hopefully talksport and sky can be the catalyst to give airtime to the likes of Simon and Kieran McGuire who are pointing out the lack of even playing field in the next set of rules and keep getting it out there so we see fair competition and a growth of neutral interest rather than the elite 6 keeping there mob rule profits and statuses.

It was never going to yield anything, for political reasons this was fraught with danger for the PL and the appeal panel. The delays in the administration it meant that a 1 point reduction would have effectively relegated Burnley (unless they can win two games and overcome a significant goal difference). Need to help teams coming up whom have not received parachute payments be more competitive as the financial losses are stacked in favour of PL clubs. PL have also shown that players will need to be sold by 30th June if PSR is going to be an issue which tilts all the power to the buying club. Especially the wealthiest clubs. Time for accounting period and transfer window to be harmonised. Forest and Everton points show that 115 should receive enough to relegate them.

Broke the rules, cried it in.

The four-point deduction sanction Forest received was fair and consistent compared to both of the points deduction sanctions Everton received. Forest's PSR breach amount was sizeable and bigger than Everton's ones*. Forest were already granted a reduction in sanction at the original hearing, of two points -- from six points reduced to four points -- for mitigating factors (early plea and cooperation). Forest's other arguments/grounds were rubbish. So no complaints from me. I say this as a Forest fan. Forest knowingly broke the PSR rules last season . PSR breaches due to overspending on players (transfer fees and wages) warrant a sporting penalty (i.e. a points deduction). Forest's transfer activity in January 2023 was all beyond the PSR constraints, and it helped up stay up last season. We therefore derived a sporting advantage by breaking the spending rules. * Everton's six-point penalty was that high due to aggravating factors.

Right all along? You said 2 point back 😂

Yes!!!! Yes Simon!!!!!

Every prem club should just be told you cant spend anymore than 450million per window

How’s that going now pal!!!!!🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🌳🌳🏹🏹🏹we are staying up!!!!

Still not enough to deter cheating it should be a minimum of 5 points per charge that will deter them

And just so people know there is a reason this guy on the right don't work for any club now and works for a radio show . He was not good at his job so please take what he says with a pinch of salt . If he knew what he was talking about he would be at a club

Let's do our job on the pitch and relegate Luton and Burnley the proper way!

Why is Simon sniggering?

Oh, you must all be so very. very happy with this result. A corrupt result in a dying game. No help for any club coming into this league.

A game of football should be between 2 teams playing 90mins with the correct decisions from refs/var. Not the game being dictated by these useless idiots from the pgmol who ain't got clue what a foul is, what a handball is, what a red card is. Get rid of pgmol and have genuine fans in the var room.

Are Stefan borson and Martin o,Neil the same person? Lol

You would love that wouldn’t you Jim…

Whos this guy????

Sir Jordanite = Top LAD Proper Clobber 💯 Facts

The Premier League is the best league in the world?

The cheats have ruined this league*********

What about Chelsea???? Or man city oh that’s right they ain’t counted are they lads🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🏹🏹🌳🌳🌳🦆🦆🦆absolute joke

Dont fail unless you are city

Fixed Corrupt premier league! Where city points!!!!

We ain’t going down so you’ll av to try harder next season 🖕

Jim… you obviously have jumped on your old employer bandwagon 😡… very sad from you today… thought you lot were supposed to be neutral…. App not…

Good..Deserved..Rules are their for a reason..Deal with it 👍🏻

Tossers

when are we going to hear about Man city/Chelsea cases?? if ever cos big money talks!!!

This only means one thing. And that is Man City will also be punished 🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉

Everyone knows the rules...... besides man city of course

And Man City???????????????

Stefan is the man!

4 points is still a very light punishment. Notts Forest have been very lucky.

The right decision. Should have been higher.

🚨🚨🚨🚨 waiting for the Man City haters to enter the chat 🚨🚨🚨🚨 🍿

Forest and Everton blew their integrity

Cheatingham Forest. Give the cheats their right name.

everton and forest deserve minimum 15 points. burnley and luton have to stay everton and forest against QPR-BRISTOL-SUNDERLAND or LEEDS!!! everton deserves to play against QPR or BRISTOL in the new stadium. forest deserves a new manager and a new chance to play against sunderland or boro to stay in championship forever. the worst football style in history after dark age sheffield.everton and forest.

Stefan Borsen integrity again buyest being corrupt ok talking about other clubs but not man cheaty shame on him and the premier league ruining the integrity of the game so much time for other clubs just not man cheaty whilst they cleaning up with trophies absolute joke corrupt League

115 Peep peep peep still waiting 😂😂😂😂😂