Simon & Martin O'Neill ARGUE Whether Ref Mistakes Are Due To Inconsistency or Different Standards 😤

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talkSPORT's Jim White, Simon Jordan and Martin O'Neill discuss the reasons they believe referee decisions are causing so many controversies in the game
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@Wraith8082 7 часов назад

“Man city did well to get a point” against 10 men at home for over 45 minutes is the funniest bit of revisionism you’ll see this season

@soapboxparishrecordings5287 6 часов назад

Against the best defensive of the last 18 months playing a 6-3 formation for 57 mins. Arsenal were ace

@Southboi148 6 часов назад

@@soapboxparishrecordings5287 57 mins?? Have a word, there was about 20 mins at football second half with all the Arsenal players going down every 30 seconds. That was embarrassing

@Wraith8082 5 часов назад

@@Southboi148 sky tried the same angle as you just to find out from opta the ball was in play longer than any other game this season

@acejay6050 5 часов назад

@@Southboi148nope sky confirmed the ball was in play the most out of any prem game this season. Wanna try another excuse?

@soapboxparishrecordings5287 3 часа назад

@@Southboi148 so Arsenal laid down on the pitch for half an hour? What about Rodri after 10 seconds pretending to have died after a shoulder barge 😂😂 Spaniard tried to get Arsenal players off from minute 1 and then karma hit when he did he own leg

@rdholyfield965 6 часов назад

Corruption being labelled as inconsistencies 😂

@BridgeStamford 5 часов назад

Corruption? Oh please grow up

@da22nd 6 часов назад

It was Michael Oliver who didn't give the yellow to Szobozlai and it was Michael Oliver who gave Leandro Trossard. So Simon Jordan is talking bullshit!

@edizldn1 Час назад

As usual. Is he really that stupid or is it just to get conversation going?

@lgf2202 9 минут назад

Thought the exact same thing. Can't believe he missed the point entirely

@kurtisrichards1082 7 часов назад

No Simon, the inconsistencies argument still applies, look at Oliver last season with Kovacic, should have seen red. You cant be on the UAE's payroll and then reffing their games over here, its a massive conflict of interest. The standard of refeering in the Prem is awful, you know when you tune in its the Ref show and not a football match.

@SC..28 5 часов назад

Simon talking nonsense and protecting the refs because he wants to line up a podcast with Howard Webb. Absolute sell out Simon is

@_Forza 4 часа назад

So u think he's been consistent for a year. Y'know since we're counting after that incident. If u have the time can u post your IQ

@lowey6e 4 часа назад

Look at Micheal Oliver last week!!!!!! Doesn’t send szobozlai off, you genuinely couldn’t make it up

@lowey6e 4 часа назад

@@_Forzahave a look at szobozlai kicking the ball away against Forrest, and then have a look at who the ref is and tell me that’s not inconsistent, it’s a joke

@kurtisrichards1082 3 часа назад

@@_Forza I can think of two incidents before this weekend, in the last 8 months where he hasn't been consistent. No sending off Szoboszlai for kicking the ball off against Forrest and the two red card challenges on Odegaard & Rice. No proof of IQ needed that, that is inconsistent and just off the top of my head you imbecile.

@sanjitsidhu4613 6 часов назад

Simon Jordon does not check his facts before making most statements. Oliver was the referee for the Liverpool incident, he chose not to book Szoboszlai in the exact same situation. We don’t want robot referees but if the same ref comes to differing decisions each week he should be called out.

@lowey6e 3 часа назад

Can people please talk about this, they just blundered around like three old piss heads not realising it was the same ref eight days ago

@G-q6h7i 2 часа назад

@@lowey6ebecause they don't care unfortunately mate, arsenal need to do something about it themselves as the media is against them too

@rhysagrey 5 часов назад

Last season when Micheal Oliver failed to send off Kovacic for two clear yellows card offenses…. the “Chief Refereeing Officer” for the PGMOL Howard Webb came out and said the reason Kovacic wasn’t sent off was because Micheal Oliver didn’t want to ruin the biggest game of the season by sending off the player. Now can someone please explain to me why less than a year later Micheal Oliver thought sending off Trossard for something less sinister than Kovacic’s two yellow card offences wouldn’t also ruined the biggest game of the season? Consistency is all we ask for!

@lowey6e 3 часа назад

The szobozlai incident was eight days ago and Micheal Oliver was the ref…

@Teezy_Ty 7 часов назад

All we want is consistency. I have no problem with Trossard being sent off. He should have known better given what happened to Rice. But how can you not give Doku or Bernardo a yellow for kicking the ball? This is the same ref that did not give Kovacic a 2nd yellow last season as he didn’t want to ruin the game. But now he wants to apply the letter of law at which he failed to apply consistently within this game. Also, why no mention of City celebrating a draw at home against 10 man Arsenal? I thought City don’t celebrate draws according to Rodri?

@paulorganisation1 6 часов назад

If refs keep making bad decisions, isn't that consistency?😂. The standard should be higher.

@wickedmanrick 6 часов назад

So doku getting a yellow is a red now?? The differnce is city scored last minute to salvage a draw where as arsenal celebrate a draw from the start park the bus and city dont take pictures like odeergard

@Teezy_Ty 6 часов назад

@@wickedmanrick Huh? Who said anything about Doku getting a red?? He should have got a yellow, simple. Yeah and Arsenal were down to 10 men for 50 odd minutes against the best team in the prem. By city standards they should have won yesterday

@wickedmanrick 6 часов назад

@@Teezy_Ty yellow your still on the pitch so whats the diff he didnt do anything after that for a second yellow

@Teezy_Ty 6 часов назад

@@wickedmanrick Mate we talking about the inconsistency from the ref giving a yellow for kicking the ball away. Doku did no card, Trossard did card. Really simple stuff to understand

@kwabenaowusu-sarfo8043 6 часов назад

Simon. Whether it’s consistency or standards, you know what the caller means. Dont play on words and speak about the real issues.

@lowey6e 4 часа назад

So Micheal Oliver (same ref) doesn’t send szobozlai off last week for doing the EXACT same thing. It’s the same referee eight days apart. Someone please please please push this

@IK_697 7 часов назад

We aren't moaning about the cards for Rice and Trossard we are moaning about us getting pulled up and no1 else getting the same treatment even in the same game!

@gazagovana3291 2 часа назад

Bottlers

@jakewalker1327 5 часов назад

Simon chatting rubbish again

@antoinedoinell 6 часов назад

it's bias and personal relationships.

@BridgeStamford 5 часов назад

The ref followed the rule rather than common sense. What really happened was we were all robbed of a great second half. Instead we were subjected to watching boring city passing the ball 3 yards for 50 minutes

@skitzouk 3 часа назад

Doku didn't do the same thing as Trossard, Oliver was pointing to move the ball backwards to the correct spot and Doku kicked the ball there so he wasn't delaying the restart

@adityasingh-ul5tb 6 часов назад

Corruption of course

@brodogoks2526 7 часов назад

Put the Warren v stelling debate up if you dare talksport lol

@jeffreywilliams6967 3 часа назад

Simon’s waffle was just inconsistent. The rule was created by PGMOL, the inconsistency is in the fact that some refs seem to be quick to punish for it while others overlook it.

@lfcspectre4335 Час назад

Sir Jordanite = Top LAD Proper Clobber 💯 Facts

@kerrsempz6991 5 часов назад

Oliver was the same ref who didnt book sbozo last week so whats the excuse!

@pevvex4452 2 часа назад

There you go again, typical Arsenal small club mentality. Wherever they don’t win it’s never their fault.

@applenuts 7 часов назад

Arsenal would have 5 out of 5 wins now if it wasn't for the red cards that includes villa, tottenham and city away. There's no better team in the prem and i expect a relatively comfortable title win in the end.

@hbos9709 6 часов назад

..🤔 your final sentence shows your delusions

@StardenBardenHardenBart 6 часов назад

In the end of the season we all know assna is bottling the league

@docholiday-lm4vf 6 часов назад

Welcome to liverpools world. Liverpool been saying man city own the refs for 6 years and been called victims. Now arsenal fans are seeing it

@mikem8211 2 часа назад

Have you seen what we've been through the last 20 years? Nothing about this title race will be comfortable but we will do it

@kabelomaragelo2745 4 часа назад

Man we needed Martin Keown

@memphismartin196 6 часов назад

Simon, at least be consistent in the same game!

@rawthentictruth Час назад

Simon always says things that are so confusing. What’s the difference with mistakes and inconsistency when a referee makes a call in a game and a week later he doesn’t make that same call?

@gerefg 6 часов назад

Does simon just argue for the sake of arguing? His argument is flawed, why even have rules if different refs have different standards.

@directrue1742 7 часов назад

The only consistency is City getting help in big games.. vs Arsenal ,Liverpool or any ocasión they are in trouble...

@roykeane1922 2 часа назад

The inconsistency is simple. In both games that Arsenal were punished for kicking the ball away, the opposition team had done the same at an earlier moment in the game and not been penalized. It’s not hard Simon

@anindomukolwe 6 часов назад

One rule for Arsenal and another rule for others. Twice in a row City have failed to beat Arsenal at the Etihad. We go again. COYG! ❤❤

@Tarek_ElMaddah 3 часа назад

The league is corrupted and rotten to the core. But no one of these clowns has the balls or integrity to say it.

@cyrilsouchon 39 минут назад

Sport, at the elite level, is a test of character as well as skill. If a player fails to control himself, then it’s an insight into the teams capability to cohere as a team, and of the manager to blend personalities (on the one hand) and to select the personalities to the occasion.

@Stewy-xw9fz 5 часов назад

Referee Michael Oliver is employed by the ManCity group in Dubai in the off-season. Let that sink in

@chickenlegs5219 2 минуты назад

That Arsenal fan is laughable - his team delayed and stopped the play at every opportunity! The added time wasn’t even enough to compensate for how much time their keeper alone wasted!

@eainn 5 часов назад

Consistency should be practice by the ref in each game basis rather than lumping it overall...

@brucedickinson12 6 часов назад

where is martin keown

@Tombola8610 3 часа назад

Hiding

@vjaska 3 часа назад

Surely City players should of seen that Walker was talking with the ref and someone use their initiative to drop in and cover Walker when the quick free kick was taken

@gminorcoles 5 часов назад

It’s corruption it’s quite plain

@Scotttt1994 2 часа назад

Not one point in this video did I see an argue? Click bait again

@docholiday-lm4vf 6 часов назад

Compare liverpool and arsenal’s decisions to man cities in the title races in recent years and its clear man city get so much help! Man city have not got 1 pgmol apology 🤣🤣 not one. The rodri hanball The doku flykick the kovacic tackles The lines being drawn wrong against arsenal The diaz goal And so on and on All favours man city and they have won 4 titles by 1 point

@santifan89 Час назад

You keep saying when will Arsenal learn their lesson? what is the lesson? in the space of three games prior to trousard getting a card The lesson was three people have delayed the game by kicking the ball away, 66% of them were not punished. that's the lesson right in front of them. the overall lesson is that nobody else has been punished for it with a second yellow so far this season

@LionKingMCFC Час назад

The player that fouled rodri at the start. Why didn't he get a card?

@DnBisMassive 5 часов назад

Can someone tell me what free kick Trossard delayed yesterday? Bernardo was still on the floor, holding his back. There was no situation for a free kick and it shows how dumb this rule is. We dont need the league to become a nanny state that takes emotion out the game. Players are going to kick balls in the air, its not red worthy.

@soapboxparishrecordings5287 6 часов назад

City struggle with low blocks. Leeds in 2021 played with 10 men for an hour and won the game 2-1 AT city

@paulorganisation1 6 часов назад

Crazy how you had to find a game from three years ago as an example and i am a manutd fan.

@soapboxparishrecordings5287 6 часов назад

@@paulorganisation1 it was just an example for relevance to city not doing well against teams with 10 men at home. Pep still tries to pass to death which doesn’t work against a non pressing system/ low block. They should stretched Arsenal with players on the wings right on the line, that opens up space in the middle.

@df43124 7 минут назад

Doku didn`t do the same thing

@btecviking98 4 часа назад

Well Simon is completely wrong… there was no consistency with the trossard second yellow and Doku not getting a yellow for the same thing. EXACT issue against Brighton. Zero consistency.

@Trecesolotienesdos 4 часа назад

City fans can't accept Pep LET Arteta boss him. City were the favourites gong into it and in the second-half whilst behind were facing 10 men.

@MeiA-h9r 4 часа назад

Those 115 charges must be real I can’t continue to watch Manchester City week after week with the referee in their pocket and making favourable decisions to their favour on top of them having Haaland and great players

@LteasAVFC 5 часов назад

Can we please talk about how great Villa are doing please. JEEZ

@akumasdeception 5 часов назад

Simon siding with City, what shocker

@um931 3 часа назад

City always get the rub of the green. Refs are very ordinary at best, they let circumstances dictate decision making.

@AbelEphrem-cm2cx 6 часов назад

In the first game man city vs Ipswich , an Ipswich palyer touches saviho in the penalty box city got a penalty. A few minutes later the same foul almost identical to the city ironically it was saviho who committed the foul , funny enough Ipswich doesn't get a penalty.

@mubarakalqattan1946 3 часа назад

I don’t see anything wrong with. The refs are consistent. They are consistent against Arsenal. Just like how they were consistent against Liverpool a few seasons back to give Man City the league. It’s so boring at this point.

@samsonermias6303 5 часов назад

City always play with 13 men

@richardandrews5972 5 часов назад

talking of things there is a massive conflict of interest allowing are refs to be ref in UAE be paid be the city owners and then ref in those games but the PL dont do anything but on the other hand the PL are bringing 115 charges against them. I dont have the answers but to say the PL cannot have any sort of corruption is total baloney

@sxixlxnx 2 часа назад

Watch when City come to the Emirates. Arteta and the team won’t let this slide. Haaland better keep he’s eye on the ball and he’s ankles, Gabby will want payback.

@Trecesolotienesdos 4 часа назад

But the latter of the law shoudl be apply for ALL refs, if the LAWS OF THE GAMEare the same in all games. Standards and inconsistency are the same Simon in this case.

@Eric4075 6 часов назад

A.I to follow the rules of the game ?

@sl8185 4 часа назад

Arsenal totally unbearable these days under Arteta. Used to moan like crazy about Newcastle, Arsenal now the biggest time wasters and dark arts in the league. Noone wants them to win the league and thankfully they won't.

@SisekoIzwelethu 5 часов назад

And the great cover up begins right on cue! Pls which ten men in England can do that against Man City, im waiting? Kovasic last season not once not twice but hey Oliver felt that he needs to keep players onfield. Simon Jordan is conflating issues as expected when his obviously avoiding the Doku incident if your talking consistency really. Love how they count on ppls amnesia.

@andrewwatson4244 5 часов назад

So much crying

@eiler1987 7 часов назад

doesn't know where the extra time comes from. You mean Raya goin down, then Timber going down right after play starts back up again, in extra time.

@TomTom-gs7wy 6 часов назад

Added time didn’t start until 91:30 due to players being down.. time wasting cheats

@eiler1987 6 часов назад

@@TomTom-gs7wy oh my comment was making fun of whoever was complaining about extra time. I know why they added it, it was well deserved, when Raya has the ball for 30-40 seconds any time he catches it.

@TomTom-gs7wy 6 часов назад

@@eiler1987 yes mate I was agreeing with you, you are absolutely correct

@JosephTT. 6 часов назад

Arsenal were rubbish again

@Dazzerthegooner666 6 часов назад

You didn’t watch a minute of the game did you

@thebandthatisDAVE 6 часов назад

Hahahahahahahahaha! Thank you! Made my day! You are a spurs supporter!

@JosephTT. 6 часов назад

I watched every single bit of the game yesterday. It’s surprising no one is talking about how indisciplined Arsenal players have been lately; they learned that stupid behaviour from man city. But as clever as man city are, they stopped that rubbish knowing the repercussions can be devastating. Also, retreating to a low block didn’t help.

@JosephTT. 6 часов назад