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Simple Rules of Coax Fed Antennas 

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Years ago, I attended a presentation that Nigel (SK) G4NRR gave. He explained that dipoles resonate on every other harmonic and full wave loops were resonant on every harmonic. These extremely basic rules are the fundamental build blocks of almost every antenna I build. See what you think. Callum, M0MCX.
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@BryanTorok
@BryanTorok Год назад
It is amazing when the theory works like it should. BUT, more amazing is that the theory is always more complicated and practical application is just a bit different. When I first heard of your antenna I, like lots of others, thought that it was rather pricey and that I could make one much cheaper, maybe a third of the cost. Then I saw videos of those that actually tried it. They were 50% to 60% or more and then spent hours of trial and error to get their antennas to perform well. Now, that is fine if you enjoy doing that. If that is your hobby, God love you and have at it. But, I like to put something up and have it work, if not the first time, in short order. And, I put a value on my time. So, Cal, you make an antenna for people like me. I also applaud you for being so open with your information for those who want to have a stab at making their own I hope you continue to do well for many years.
@DXCommanderHQ
@DXCommanderHQ Год назад
Hey! Yes, I love folks making them.. Often they have told me that after thay had made THEIR contraption, they come and buy mine :)
@Doubter5
@Doubter5 Год назад
In all honesty, i watch these Antenna builds all the time and hardly anybody talks about how to connect the wires. They just discuss lengths, layouts, propagation, etc., etc. But not the electrical connections. Beginners need to know that stuff! :)
@DXCommanderHQ
@DXCommanderHQ Год назад
Yep!!
@wordwalker3
@wordwalker3 Год назад
One summer afternoon my Dad had me doing something in the backyard at the picnic table, I don't even remember what it was, while he put together the new barbeque grill. After about 30 minutes I heard him laugh at something. About 5 minutes later he was finished with the grill and came over to help me finish up. I asked him what he was laughing at. He pulled a small slip of paper out of his pocket and handed it to me. It read "When all else fails...read the instructions!" He then said "If I had done that to start with I'd have saved myself about 20 minutes!" Perhaps you should include a similar slip of paper loose in the box with all the other bits and bobs as you guys like to call them. 😁
@DXCommanderHQ
@DXCommanderHQ Год назад
Brilliant!
@TR6Telos
@TR6Telos Год назад
2 cycles ago in 1990 I spoke all over on 5w except to the East, as I was in a steel framed tower block at 120ft agl, 200asl. The front to back was superb. I once wired up the metal window frames up as a 2 window dipole with a tuner and made many US contacts on 10m! The good old days.
@DXCommanderHQ
@DXCommanderHQ Год назад
Brilliant!!
@somethingcool7903
@somethingcool7903 Год назад
I enjoy listening to you stories you paint a good picture....I got lost while listening and could imagine myself in your shoes especially when you would add those pictures in time to time...nice work on the story telling. Thanks for sharing a part of you life with us.
@DXCommanderHQ
@DXCommanderHQ Год назад
Wow, thank you
@jaysmall8780
@jaysmall8780 Год назад
I'm on a losing battle.. Lol! Harkens to the days of actually listening to a signal vs looking at a screen. Love it!
@DXCommanderHQ
@DXCommanderHQ Год назад
Ha! I know :)
@brooklyndrive
@brooklyndrive Год назад
Thanks for your consistently positive and good humored approach!
@DXCommanderHQ
@DXCommanderHQ Год назад
I appreciate that!
@DonzLockz
@DonzLockz Год назад
Thank you for sharing you experience packed old man brain with us all Callum. I'll be saving this video as my OM brain tends to forget stuff.😆🍻👍
@DXCommanderHQ
@DXCommanderHQ Год назад
Glad you enjoyed it
@4whunt
@4whunt Год назад
Your piano analogy was a perfect explanation. It made it really click for me. Thank you so much!
@DXCommanderHQ
@DXCommanderHQ Год назад
You're very welcome!
@dandypoint
@dandypoint Год назад
Good video. I have done a lot with Beverages and Beverages on the ground. On the low bands the signal is there but the noise is the problem. Most receive antennas have negative gain. The absolute most important thing is directivity. By that I mean one or more nulls in the direction of the noise. Direction being both azimuth and elevation. I use my K3 like you noted for my 160 meter contesting. Europe BOG on main RX in one ear and the other two BOG/Beverages on the sub receiver. I have worked many 160 contests with all receiving ( 6 or 7 hundred QSOs) done with wires laying on the ground! One guy in Europe sent me a note that he was running 5 watts when he called me on 160 and he was surprised I heard him!
@DXCommanderHQ
@DXCommanderHQ Год назад
Good points!
@DustInTheWindAZ
@DustInTheWindAZ Год назад
Cheers, Callum! I'm an a American with a "stupid question", but a little background first. After been a CB enthusiast back in the 70's (I had a Penetrator 500 on the roof of my house for my RadioShack 23-channel radio). Recently, I "inherited" a 23-channel Cobra 138 that I want to get operational. I have a magnet-mount for my vehicle,, but I need a "base" antenna. I'm
@DustInTheWindAZ
@DustInTheWindAZ Год назад
Hmm.. My question got cut short... I'm building a "base" antenna. First thought of a dipole (because its easy), but thought I'd make it vertical for the "omni" radiation pattern. But then thought to change the bottom (negative) radiator to ground plane radials. Here's the question: If there are only 2 radials 180 degrees opposing, how does that affect the radiation pattern? Does it make the it directional (like a horizontal dipole)? I know more radials is better, but I have to consider space and orientation of the antenna. Thanks!
@DXCommanderHQ
@DXCommanderHQ Год назад
OK.. if its high enough then place the radials at 45 degrees.. A slant. Angle doesn't. After too much. High enough is about half a wavelength..
@DustInTheWindAZ
@DustInTheWindAZ Год назад
@@DXCommanderHQ Right. I forgot to mention that I was planning that. Well, actually that was an option to help adjust SWRs. But I saw that doing that helps the radiation pattern. Thanks for the reply and all the videos. I've learned a lot, even if you ARE "beating a dead horse"! LOL!
@DustInTheWindAZ
@DustInTheWindAZ Год назад
OBTW... And now for something completely different... I couldn't help but notice your drums and PA system, not to mention (why do we say that when we do anyway?) that you have sound-control panels on the wall. Obviously you play in a band. Do you have a RU-vid channel dedicated to the band?
@DustInTheWindAZ
@DustInTheWindAZ Год назад
...and the guitars...
@rickbattle5706
@rickbattle5706 Год назад
Great stuff. Many thanks!
@arkyump
@arkyump Год назад
Always love to hear the Commander.
@NickFrom1228
@NickFrom1228 Год назад
That receive idea seems like a good option for folks who are into shortwave listening.
@beemcbike
@beemcbike Год назад
Great you came up with the RST “Problem”. In that perspective I’m old school as well . For reducing noise, I built me a half square antenna and was surprised how good it reduces noise and gives you pretty good gain in 2 directions. Keep up your work, thanks de HB3XBL 👍🇨🇭
@DXCommanderHQ
@DXCommanderHQ Год назад
Great tip!
@enginedave
@enginedave Год назад
Thanks to you I made a 40 meter loop and it's phenomenal. Loving EFHW antennas also
@DXCommanderHQ
@DXCommanderHQ Год назад
Nice work!
@seanwood8043
@seanwood8043 Год назад
Jewels of knowledge and experience as always DX Commder Rocks !
@DXCommanderHQ
@DXCommanderHQ Год назад
Thanks again!
@bassangler73
@bassangler73 Год назад
I'm a rare American Cal, I read the manual..I have ruined way too much expensive gear in my days by not doing so..I agree that a signal strength report is relative to each individual...To me as a guitar player it's like which Tubes sound better in my amp EL34's vs 6L6's, 10 people will probably have at least 5 different opinions..Anyway cool video!!
@DXCommanderHQ
@DXCommanderHQ Год назад
All good comments. And agreed. I well written fast user guide can sometimes be a joy to glance over.
@ronwolenski-n8wcr
@ronwolenski-n8wcr Год назад
Great presentation! You explain things so exquisitely that it actually makes sense!
@DXCommanderHQ
@DXCommanderHQ Год назад
It's because I love simple things!
@mewrongway
@mewrongway Год назад
Awesome info Callum!!
@DXCommanderHQ
@DXCommanderHQ Год назад
Thanks!
@decibelgeorge
@decibelgeorge Год назад
Thanks for the explanation. I had a couple of good laughs. Adore your sense of humor Callum
@DXCommanderHQ
@DXCommanderHQ Год назад
Glad you enjoyed it!
@DominicMazoch
@DominicMazoch Год назад
If you have an HF rig with dead finals, but receive is good, you could use it for a receive radio at low cost!
@jamescstanley5018
@jamescstanley5018 Год назад
Great presentation Cal! I must have seen everything you have published about the DX Commander by now, and yet I always learn something new! This time I picked up on the element "order", I had heard it before, but it did not sink in, time methinks to rewatch some of the earlier videos. Keep up the great work, your journey of RF discovery is not only instructive but fascinating, like putting a 10m antenna 18mtrs up a pole! Thanks for all your hard work and the effort you put into making these videos so much fun. 73 Jim M7BXT
@DXCommanderHQ
@DXCommanderHQ Год назад
Yes, it's a strange discovery!
@fromthehamshack-radionj4z
@fromthehamshack-radionj4z Год назад
great stuff Callum!
@DXCommanderHQ
@DXCommanderHQ Год назад
Awe thanks!!
@preparinginnh1203
@preparinginnh1203 Год назад
I’m a new(ish) ham - recently got my General - had a novice 25 years ago. Love your programming. Thanks for your content. I’m starting with a 10 meter mobile (Stryker SR-995HP) and a 4 element Yagi in the US - SW New Hampshire at the top of a 1200 foot hill. Not all set up yet and saw your piece on coax last night. Super helpful. Looking at Icom 7300 but investigating the Yaesu FT-710 and some older all bands.
@DXCommanderHQ
@DXCommanderHQ Год назад
Wow. Welcome aboard friend!
@herrwabbaloo937
@herrwabbaloo937 Год назад
Terrific presentation, Callum! I watched one of your original videos on Rudy's shortened radials a few years ago, use shortened radials them, and they work great. Thank you also for plugging the loop on the ground antenna. Your narrative about how you came up with the DX Commander is totally awesome. 73 de Jeff, KF5KWO
@DXCommanderHQ
@DXCommanderHQ Год назад
Yes Herr.. I have discovered where the 120 x 1/4 wave radials myth comes from now.. It was Dr Brown from RCA in the 1930s. BUT the difference was analysing short 1/8th wave (or less) Medium Wave broadcast antennas.. Then, you would need more radials fot better efficiency. But Rudy's science was excellent.
@christophervezeau
@christophervezeau Год назад
I've been watching you for some time. I just got my technician license here in the US. You make all these concepts understandable. I am happy to buy your antenna once I get more HF privileges and look forward to speaking with you someday from Massachusetts.
@DXCommanderHQ
@DXCommanderHQ Год назад
Fantastic! ANd good luck!
@stevegriffin9552
@stevegriffin9552 Год назад
Good evening Callum, what a wonderful video and the beginnings of DX commander. That’s a fantastic journey that you’ve taken keep up the good work and take care of yourself. Thank you for your videos. WD5ENH Steve
@DXCommanderHQ
@DXCommanderHQ Год назад
Ah-ha thanks Steve!
@TheGmr140
@TheGmr140 Год назад
Nice job
@DXCommanderHQ
@DXCommanderHQ Год назад
Tnx
@nightwaves3203
@nightwaves3203 Год назад
One of the funny parts of resonance and SWR is it's only a measure of the antenna and radio. The results is what's important and that's what gets out.
@Fozz84
@Fozz84 2 месяца назад
A little improvement could be a colour coded sticker on the base plate (or coloured dots). I would like to know what would be a good first antenna for DXing. I have just bought a RTL-SDR dongle and I love it although i now realise the antenna is crappy for shortwave listening. (so far my fave. thing is knowing what the boats near me are up-to and knowing what plane is flying overhead.
@mi6xgzjon186
@mi6xgzjon186 4 месяца назад
so basically its "RTFM" (read the ------- manual) well said, nobody seems to "have time" these days to look at how a manufacturer designed their product to work. one exception when its in chinglish, that can be problematic . thanks for another very informative vid.
@milwman1958
@milwman1958 Год назад
Great Info as a new ham I now understand something! Scott KF0HRF Iowa usa
@DXCommanderHQ
@DXCommanderHQ Год назад
Glad it was helpful!
@patrickbuick5459
@patrickbuick5459 Год назад
Now I know what you use for RX haha. I am noticing exactly the same thing with a 130ft EFLW at 10 feet with Chameleon Hybrid mini transformer on lower bands. The noise almost entirely goes away on it. Upper bands, the vertical is usually better. Due to trying to get a net about 1000km away, I am actually going to raise it in a couple of steps (18 feet, then 46 feet) and evaluate any differences. As discussed in email, I may go to a full wave loop for 80m (and 40 likely) with the guying style the power utility uses for their poles.
@DXCommanderHQ
@DXCommanderHQ Год назад
Cool!!!!
@davidportch8837
@davidportch8837 Год назад
one of your best Callum - really enjoyed this - great advice...G0KPZ
@DXCommanderHQ
@DXCommanderHQ Год назад
Ah. Tnx!!
@AK4TF
@AK4TF Год назад
I don't quite have a TS-990S, I've got the little brother, the TS-890S. But I have an old Yaesu FT-101ZD Mk0 from 1979 passed to me from my dad from his brother. I use it as a backup, but a fun radio to operate. But the 890 is just as difficult, I often go to youtube to figure it out. I sadly must admit, I just recently took my DX Commander down to keep it out of the weather from lack of use.
@DXCommanderHQ
@DXCommanderHQ Год назад
Oh!
@ronleblanc9832
@ronleblanc9832 Год назад
could your vertical be somewhat directional if you un hook half the ground radials on one side the half you left hooked up would receive and transmit better in that direction ????
@DXCommanderHQ
@DXCommanderHQ Год назад
No.. WHat would happen only is that you would transmit worse at the back.
@James_Bowie
@James_Bowie Год назад
I believe the vertically polarized QRM theory dates back to when most QRM was created by arcing and sparking of appliances, etc. These days with SMPS, etc. it's open slather.
@DXCommanderHQ
@DXCommanderHQ Год назад
Good point
@James_Bowie
@James_Bowie Год назад
Rudy N6LF lives on Oregon. He must be getting on in years now. Callum you really should try to interview him for the channel. Also, ZS6BKW (now G0GSF) who's in West Kirby, UK
@DXCommanderHQ
@DXCommanderHQ Год назад
Haha yes!
@DXCommanderHQ
@DXCommanderHQ Год назад
I've added them both to the list. Thanks!!
@aceofdiamonds7448
@aceofdiamonds7448 Год назад
Hi Callum Great video! I been thinking about a Wire Yagi for people to make cheap at home. 3 or 4 element. The driven and parasitics in an inverted v formation. hanging from a rope horizontal between 2 trees/poles... Not sure if you talked on that on other videos great videos! thought I'd throw it out there for ideas cheers !
@DXCommanderHQ
@DXCommanderHQ Год назад
Yes, folks do this sometime on say 80m.. But ideally needs to be high(ish)
@aceofdiamonds7448
@aceofdiamonds7448 Год назад
@@DXCommanderHQ Thanks! Great videos! how you come up with such cool ideas! You can do a lot with 100 watts and a piece of wire! Haha 73s
@patrickbuick5459
@patrickbuick5459 Год назад
You give me hope... you are about a year older than me and I have some business ideas I want to launch on.
@DXCommanderHQ
@DXCommanderHQ Год назад
Do it!
@baneverything5580
@baneverything5580 Год назад
I want to make a loop for shortwave. I keep forgetting to plan one. I need coax to even try it I guess. Never tried it. I recently strung out a simple 100 feet of insulated hookup wire from the end of my camper opposite the electric meter away from power lines to a tree. The interference in my camper was terrible so no radio. Then in my main living area I ran a wire out the window and connected it to a bolt on the frame of my metal camper roof that is anchored to the ground. No shielded lead in wire but it`s working great for shortwave and medium wave using a Tecsun PL-330. I`m gonna connect another 100 ft spool of wire to the end of it and try that next. I may turn left and make a partial L shape to see if I get more signals from other directions or just use two more spools to go both directions.
@DXCommanderHQ
@DXCommanderHQ Год назад
OK.. So for shortwave.. Depending on the connection you have on your radio, you can make a closed loop.. So out of one side and straight back to the other.. Or maybe have a look at something called Loop On Ground.. Folks sell them for $20 or so. But you will need coax for that and it literally lays on the ground.
@thunderc4s
@thunderc4s Год назад
Do you recommend to always use a 1:1 current choke balun (or simply wrap turns of coax on pvc pipe) on unbalanced antennas like verticals to keep current mode rf off the coax back to radio ?
@DXCommanderHQ
@DXCommanderHQ Год назад
I don't recommend one way or the other. I don't use one for a ground vertical BUT I know that apparently I probably should!
@rayhill1855
@rayhill1855 Год назад
LMAO "What the hell is this word manual mean" Just did the Wikipedia search on sig report. Thanks Cal love your videos
@DXCommanderHQ
@DXCommanderHQ Год назад
Yes, but you will be on a losing battle :)
@M0XFXUK
@M0XFXUK Год назад
What would happen if you fitted a 1:1 balun at the feed point of a DX Commander?
@DXCommanderHQ
@DXCommanderHQ Год назад
Nothing really. I've never done it. But nothing stops you doing it either. Or a choke if you must..
@M0XFXUK
@M0XFXUK Год назад
@@DXCommanderHQ Hi Cal I hope you are well mate. The reason I ask as I think it may help with RX common mode noise. I would be most interested to see if adding a 1:1 balun made any difference.
@jackK5FIT
@jackK5FIT Год назад
Always educational and fun. Another great video!! Jack K5FIT
@DXCommanderHQ
@DXCommanderHQ Год назад
Thanks again!
@bobdole57
@bobdole57 Год назад
I've been paranoid of my transmit overloading the RX preamp and blowing it on a secondary receiver- is this a real issue or am I imagining it?
@DXCommanderHQ
@DXCommanderHQ Год назад
Secondary receiver..? Erm depends if you are on the same freq on 2nd radio.. If you are on a harmonic, probably OK.. There is a cheap product called a "front end saver" - I'm sorry I don't have a link..
@MirlitronOne
@MirlitronOne Год назад
100% on the RS report comments and the 120 radials myth! Pat Hawker G3VA SK believed that radials were largely pointless at higher frequencies and one good elevated counterpoise was far more effective.
@DXCommanderHQ
@DXCommanderHQ Год назад
OK, so Pat was wrong.. However at HEIGHT (on high frequencies) he's almost right.. But you need two.
@2e1paw
@2e1paw Год назад
Hi Calum hope you’re well … it does say on your site that the 7m pole is out of stock ? … I have your 7m pole already ! Would you have the plates and spreaders in stock I could purchase ? Thanks 2e1paw
@DXCommanderHQ
@DXCommanderHQ Год назад
Paul.. The POLES are in stock (I will check why website says different) and we are waiting on the alloy plates to make up the kits. SHould be this week (I hope!).
@drylandandswimmingexercise8284
@drylandandswimmingexercise8284 6 месяцев назад
Hello sir , Am planning to use Rg6/U 30meters connected to dual polarity feed by signalsky . It will be compatible
@DXCommanderHQ
@DXCommanderHQ 6 месяцев назад
Sounds good.
@drylandandswimmingexercise8284
@drylandandswimmingexercise8284 6 месяцев назад
@@DXCommanderHQ the rg6/U 75ohms and 50ohms dual polarity feed do you think am getting a problem with it ?
@32_bits
@32_bits Год назад
Enspiring story and how you got started. There appears to be a market for an auto RX / TX switch to provide an RX input for rigs with only one RF connector. DX Engineering has one but its expensive to source here in the UK. Maybe a new product idea for you?
@DXCommanderHQ
@DXCommanderHQ Год назад
Yes.. Good idea 💡
@gm1sxwraymond882
@gm1sxwraymond882 Год назад
I've been using a £50 QRM Eliminator with my 7300 to do the same job as a fancy £200 switch. Wire from radio's Send auto-switches Rx/Tx. LoG to the Aux port, DXC to Ant. In clear conditions I have the gain on both turned up but when it's noisy, I turn the DXC gain down a bit to receive mostly on the LoG.
@32_bits
@32_bits Год назад
@@gm1sxwraymond882 Could you send a link and type (model) of your QRM eliminator as this sounds a good solution?
@gm1sxwraymond882
@gm1sxwraymond882 Год назад
Tried multiple times to reply with a link but they are getting removed. Look on auction site. Mine has the separate power and PTT line sockets on the back. 58 - 62 pounds.
@tonymagon8509
@tonymagon8509 Год назад
Hi Callum - Is the paper by Dr George Brown on radials on the Internet?? Tony VK2IC
@DXCommanderHQ
@DXCommanderHQ Год назад
Erm.. Now, it's on the Discord server.. Tom found it and posted it there.. discord.io/dxcommander (and Nathan also bought a copy for me - which was kind of him)
@tonymagon8509
@tonymagon8509 Год назад
@@DXCommanderHQ - Thanks Callum much appreciated - Been a ham since 1966 - Joined the Royal NZ Navy as an R/O in 67 - Was in UK for about 9 months from October 71 to to 1 June 72 - Have been interested in ham radio and AM Radio antennas since I first become a ham - but there is always something you learn
@patrickbuick5459
@patrickbuick5459 Год назад
Man oh man. I got my 12.4 Signature up and wondered why it measured awful, then realized I had laid out the radials, but hadn't connected them. 5 minutes later, all was mostly tickety boo.
@DXCommanderHQ
@DXCommanderHQ Год назад
Haha.. We've all done it :)
@mu0chn
@mu0chn Год назад
My first hf radio was a 101zd mk 3 great radio. I find if all else fails "RTFI"
@DXCommanderHQ
@DXCommanderHQ Год назад
HAHA Yes!!
@BryanTorok
@BryanTorok Год назад
With enough radials, it is not so much the tuned length of the radial as it is that you are coupling to the actual earth. The earth then carries on being the ground plane. Consider, if you put a two-meter antenna on the trunk of your car. Depending on which direction you go, the length of the ground plane will vary. But from a practical point of view that doesn't matter.
@DXCommanderHQ
@DXCommanderHQ Год назад
Indeed.. And lengths don't change the tune either.
@James_Bowie
@James_Bowie Год назад
I despair when I hear such stories about people who have (allegedly) passed a radio license exam.
@DominicMazoch
@DominicMazoch Год назад
Working on a 40m loop, 4:1 balum, using temp electric fence posts. Seeing what that would Bo on both TX and RX!
@DXCommanderHQ
@DXCommanderHQ Год назад
Done that. Works just fine.
@DominicMazoch
@DominicMazoch Год назад
@@DXCommanderHQ Thx. 73.
@DominicMazoch
@DominicMazoch Год назад
The 40m loop on temp electric fence posts works!
@jonthebru
@jonthebru Год назад
Callum you gotta know that it's Unamerican to read the directions.
@DXCommanderHQ
@DXCommanderHQ Год назад
Good point!
@enginedave
@enginedave Год назад
There's that 80/20 rule again lol
@DXCommanderHQ
@DXCommanderHQ Год назад
Always!
@francismusso7644
@francismusso7644 6 месяцев назад
Have trouble understanding what your saying. Too much British accent..
@DXCommanderHQ
@DXCommanderHQ 6 месяцев назад
Switch on subtitles or watch more TV!
@M0RMY
@M0RMY 3 месяца назад
Not sure that's Callum's problem but thanks for sharing.
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