Simplex SP24 Vs Stock Coil! | Depth Test | Nokta Makro Simplex+ | Metal Detecting | Episode 84 

Do you hunt the parks in parks? I just got mine, total beginner. I'll be hunting parks here in South Louisiana.

I do very occasionally. There's only one park in my area that allows it.

Hi Mark! Congrats...it's a beast of a machine! Thanks for watching 😃😎👍

Hi Ron! Thanks for the lovely comment 😀 The depth is a guide rather than something to be taken literally. It assumes the target is a coin about 3/4 in diameter. Each level is 'roughly' 2 inches. Bear in mind though that if the target is bigger than 3/4 inches, the machine will think it's closer to the surface and if it's smaller it will think it's further away.

Let's hope I can get my hands on one somehow! Watching news closely...sounds really exciting! If it's half as well designed as the Simplex it's going to be amazing! 😃😎👍

Thanks 🤣 You're right. That's why I only ever use it for comparing two things like two coils or different sensitivity settings. You'll get a different depth in the ground but the relative differences can be seen. If a coil is deeper on a particular target in the air it'll still be deeper in the ground 👍

@@DTEKTSUSSEX yes I understand now, regardless of the medium in between the difference in depth between the coils is still relative. Also, I was shocked to see the little drawer for holding coins on the handle of the simplex, is that optional? I am trying to pull mine out without success 🥲 wait a min, I see I was tugging at the wrong one, I thought you had opened the cap above which is on the shaft itself, it is below the shaft where your little pull out drawer is, where did you get that little drawer that fits so well in there?

It was just something someone had 3D printed on eBay. I don't have the details now but I'm sure you can find something similar with a bit of a search on there 😊

Thanks Rick! Congrats on getting the Simplex...phenomenal machine. I also have a Tips and Tricks video for the Simplex on the channel and many, many hunts with it in case that's of any interest 😀 Good luck and happy hunting! 😎👍

@@DTEKTSUSSEX I see I have some catching up to do 87 video s to watch best I get started 🤣. Only been out 5 times so far but have found part of a military button and my first time beach detecting yesterday and I found a WW2 mortar fin absolutely buzzing feeling. Anyway better make a start with ya videos

🤣 Well done on those finds! Great work 😁👏👏👏

Hi Paul, The depth indicator assumes the target is about an inch in diameter. If it's smaller than that it'll show deeper than it actually is and if it's bigger it'll show shallower than it actually is. It's an indication rather than something to be taken literally 👍

Thanks Robert! Glad you found it useful. The hunt went well - no spoilers 😉 I'll be using it again over the weekend with a new video out Sunday or Monday too 😃😎👍

Hi Steve, Yes, smaller coils...especially elliptical ones, will be less chatty than the larger ones. Smaller surface area means less space for interference to register. That's not to say the bigger coils are particularly chatty or unstable when the machine is set for the conditions 😊😎👍

Someone didn't listen... Air tests are fine for COMPARISON purposes. As I clearly stated in the video the ACTUAL depth in the ground will vary but the relative change between the two variables (coils) will be the same. Medium stays the same. One variable changes.

How did it go with the sp24?

@@stevengleave9241 honestly… I didn’t like it! Loss of depth was just too much for me and I bought the sp35 coil instead . I have moved on now and have a deus 2 these days :)

@Treasure Hunting with Tom & Marie How is the sp35 compared to the others? Thanks for your response, is greatlt appreciated.

@@stevengleave9241 for me it was superb. More like the stock coil (compared to the sp24) but just felt more powerful and meant business. It is a heavy coil though but the machine is still well balanced. I thought tiny objects might not be as responsive with the bigger coil but it didn’t make any difference. Still found them!

Detecting on soil or sand will reduce the depth compared to an air test. The amount it'll reduce by will vary depending on type of soil and environmental conditions. That's why I only use air tests to make comparisons, rather than assess actual depth 😊👍

Hi! Thanks for the lovely comment and congratulations on getting the Simplex! Excellent choice! Have you seen my Simplex Tips and Tricks video? All my most pertinent advice is in there. Let me know if you have any further specific questions though! Always happy to help if I can 😃😎👍

@@DTEKTSUSSEX No, but I will check it out.

Hi Hugh, Happy to send some if you're in the UK. Drop me a FB message with your address 👍

Plug and play 😊

@@DTEKTSUSSEX thank you for quick answer

You're right...if I was looking at getting an actual number. This test was about comparisons between the coils. Obviously depth itself will vary in different ground conditions but the difference in performance was the focus 😃😎👍

Thanks Ronald! Appreciate the offer but most of my detecting locations are fairly junky so the SP24 should do me well for a while yet. Was out with it properly this morning. Certainly didn't disappoint! Video due in a day or two 😃😎👍

Look forward to it

Actually it was. I checked it with a set square and everything 🧐 What you probably didn't notice is that the camera shifted slightly between the two tests. The change in perspective means you can see more of the bottom of the SP24 than you do with the SP28 but they were both perfectly upright 😃😎👍

@@DTEKTSUSSEX copy that... Thanks again. I'm SO IMPRESSED with the simplex. Just ordered my second one. So impressive

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Size-wise, it can get into smaller areas but being elliptical means it should single out and separate targets much better. Should be great for the junky areas I detect in. I'll be out tomorrow with it for the first time so look out for that video soon! 😃😎👍

Hi Conor, Thank-you! Glad you're enjoying the videos! It may depend on the kind of land you're detecting on. Sounds like the ground is mineralised to a point so it may just be they way it will be. If the false signals tend to be in the low iron range you could try turning the iron volume down. Or dropping the sensitivity a bit. Alternatively, try ground balancing manually in case the mineralisation is throwing off the auto balance function. Hope that helps! Good luck and happy hunting! 😃😎👍

Thanks, yes could just be the way it is. Will have to play around with it a bit more before I properly get the hang of it. It's really a great detector apart from my minor issue. Thanks, Conor

Hi David, Nice to hear from you. The short answer is no. The coils are precisely configured to work with the specific machine they're made for. Definitely get it exchanged for the SP24, though. It's an absolute must for the Simplex! Thank you for watching the videos! I really appreciate it 😊

Hi Adam Thankyou for your email much appreciated here. I hope to stay in touch with you. I to am trying to put metal detecting clips on youtube I and already have 1. The cams quality was ok, and the cams was used to record this clip, 1 cam had no name,,, (that a mate who use to metal detect with me, and you'll see him in this clip, not his face though and that goes for me too)..... of mine was using, and another brand called a K4000 ( most probably a King's sport action Cam) in which I was using. Any the name I go under is Called Womba Bingi Indig Metal Detecting. I have mostly a Australian 1st nation Indigenous back ground and some mix from my Mothers side, my fathers side being Irish English anyway another time for that. The clip as you'll see at the beginning, is about a snake a 6ft long carpet snake (Python) that we encountered (it was 7th of December last year.) and was lying on the rocks after having a massive feed of something or 2 because the pray what ever it was, pretty big and snake was still digesting it ( must have got a bad case of indigestion lol) The clip is humorous so I hope you'll like it, and put a like to it. I am just about finished my 2nd one but with better quality cams ( not GoPro) It will be called a Afternoon at the beach with a Coke and Jack Daniels lol, you'll see why. Anyway thanks again for your email Mate hear from you soon when you have the time.

Probably not in the ground, no. This is an air test so it will read a little deeper. The point was to compare the two coils...not get a depth measurement.

Stay tuned...I'm taking the elliptical out today and over the next few weeks at least to test it out with some actual detecting 😃😎👍

You'll struggle to find ANY detector that'll detect to 6 feet! Even the top end machines will struggle beyond 2 feet...

@@DTEKTSUSSEX Imagine digging 6 foot for every signal, omg I'm knackered after a couple of 6 inch holes on the beach :)

@@GrumpyDad ~ I suppose when you finally dig up the target at that depth, you can order authentic Chinese! 😆 🤣

Hi, I did say several times in the video that the measurements were in inches 👍

Depends where you're hunting. In junky areas or on the beach, yes. If you're in a ploughed field (or similar) where there's not many targets, the stock will give you better coverage and marginally more depth 😃😎👍

Yeah I’ve had the simplex and only used the stock coil the whole time and really have gotten used to it. I’m just trying to justify spending the extra $110 for it I know it’s smaller and easier to handle but as far as finding more stuff I honestly think the stock boil goes a little deeper. Although I can hardly ever run the stock coil full sensitivity so it may not be.

If you're doing parks and beaches it's a must have. Totally different machine! If you're on farm fields, stock with the stock 😃😎👍

Well I ordered one and it’s supposed to be here in a couple days. I don’t get to hunt a lot of farms and I’ve read that you can turn the sensitivity all the way up which should help with the depth loss if there’s any. The main thing is people say like you did it helps in trashy areas and I’ve heard it also kind of stabilize the machine. I think with the stock coils sometimes it’s a little overloaded and this kind of makes it more stable and not as jumpy. I appreciate your quick response and opinion.

In that case you'll love the SP24! Good luck and happy hunting 😃😎👍

Yes I saw. Only for a short time. Some people are going to have everything on one pack which is awesome! 😃😎👍

Have the link to get that offer?

Exactly...that's the incredible thing. A smaller coil shouldn't be as deep as the stock. By getting the SP24 you get a more precise coil that absolutely LOVES coins and it fantastic in trashy locations and beaches and don't really lose any depth 👍

Everything you say is correct which is precisely why I never use them to assess the depth in isolation. I only ever use them, as in this case, as a comparison. I tested one coil under one set of circumstances (in this case through the air) and tested the other coil under the same circumstances to get an idea of what differences, if any, there were between the two. Of course the number of inches will change in different mediums and environmental conditions.

Noticed that the SP24 coil was not at a true right angle compared to the stock coil (which could hurt it) and you seem to favor your readings to the SP24 if you compare the beginning of the video... the stock coil seemed to have a bit of an advantage in depth.

These types of tests are tricky because it's hard to show the viewer exactly what I'm seeing and hearing. A slight change to the camera angle can affect how the coil alignment looks, the camera adjusting for a change in ambient noise can make the signals sound different. I took as great a care as I could with the test...even down to using a set square to ensure the coil angle remained constant...although I appreciate that wasn't shown in the video. Thanks for the comment 😊👍

Not sure what you're getting at. As I said in the video I went until the sound became too faint 🤷🏼‍♂️