Sin is the Easiest and Most Degenerate DLC Character Yet in Guilty Gear Strive 

For once, Sol can feel pride for his grandson

“Most degenerate character” Goldlewis Behemoth Typhoon Dickson would like to have a word.

I’m glad strive finally added a resource character that’s actually balanced around their resource. People keep talking about “his buttons aren’t good unless u use a resource” but tbh I think that’s how it should be, especially since stamina comes back automatically and is decently plentiful unless you are using 3 bars for every combo, but that’s a choice YOU are making.

and i thought I had just turned into a gg god overnight 😭

if Sin if for glue eaters then is already top tier in strive

Strive hasn't had a character I liked using until he came out. He can be bottom of the barrel for all I care, and everyone can say that I'm eating paste whenever I use him. I'm just happy to enjoy using a character in this game for once instead of just tolerating one.

Seeing people share clips of Sin not cancelling his buttons to try to clown on the new character, knowing full well the cancel option frametraps in to like 200+ damage has made twitter unusable for over 24 hours. Help.

It's like Arcsys afraid to create another Ram/Nago, Sin ain't bad by no means but i feel like he has been restricted more than any others character

Honestly I feel like Still Growing should've been about reloading his stamina.

1:36 getting a mustache is scientifically proven to make your eyebrow raise 110% better

Will agree he's very glueeater but I love sin and I loved him in Rev 2 as well so I don't mind

I love these informative vids from the perspective of a pro. And you are by far the best at explaining a character's tools and how to use them with good editing cuts that doesn't making it feel like I'm watching a VOD :)

This is why I love Daisuke, he's not only puts efforts into the Songs, he also puts effort in the playstyle to pay respect to the lore of the Chars

There is also a balance patch very very soon. It could bring down the top tiers like nago/ram/chaos and sin could be very good. I think its appropriate to see where he lands after the patch since we have no idea what the meta will look like in Dec.

I honestly don't see the resources as much of a problem, even when you run out. The way you use resources is (with the exception of following up your DP) is to augment your offense or convert pokes into pressure... but you still HAVE the pokes. You still HAVE pressure. His special overhead can't be used without using some kind of resource, but you still have strike throw. You still have dust. You still have a shitload of potential frametraps with godlike stagger pressure. Anyone who needs his resources to win matches really needs to get better fundamentals honestly, because Sin's kit really rewards smart and careful use of system mechanics and fundamental play. Resources or no, Sin has good range, great air buttons and tremendous strike throw mixup just from run up jump dust. His resources take his already potent mid-range neutral and varied offense and add in incredibly safe and reliable offensive options and high damage confirms that make them REALLY scary, but the idea that them not working ALL THE TIME makes him useless is asinine. As for his food mechanic, I see it more as a way of forcing your opponent to chase you down. I've beaten Nagos HARD because I just stand at full screen eating food whenever they let me. When they realise I'm gaining meter and health periodically, they have no choice but to rush me down or take risks to stop me, and that opens them up to Elk Hunt low profiles or instant air dashes into full punishes. So far the best way I've found to play Sin is to alternate between relentless offense and confirming hits with good pushback into food (any combo that ends in 6HS midscreen is a good option). It resets to neutral the same as canceling into Beak Driver, loses barely any damage and creates a window to recover resources if you're low. If I got INTO that combo by using Elk Hunt, Followup, Dash into pressure, then by the end odds are I have 1 stock at most. If I cancel into food I force most characters to come BACK towards me whilst I stall out for meter regain and take risks. Most important tip I can give people picking him up: ONLY force your offense when the opponent is cornered or you have good resources available. The second you start running low push for a wall break or send the opponent fullscreen with 6HS or 6P into food. Works like a charm and forces them to play at your pace.

His back dash feels so smooth, going into a special move after backdash is so fluidd, i feel like that's a very crucial part of his gameplan that no one's really brought upp

I love the taste of glue thus I shall main sin

Hey @Diaphone_ great vid 🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼 about the meter reliance you mentioned around 5 minutes, I just wanna point out that, ideally, by the time you’ve exhausted your stamina meter completely, you have enough tension for an RC, so you can still (as an example) make your overhead safe and even continue your pressure! I think people are definitely underestimating sin, just like they did his father lol

i didn't realize how slowly his stamina gauge builds. That seems to be the most restrictive thing, as every time you place an opponent in a blockstring it stops refilling.

Gotta say Daiphone has to be one of the best at explaining inputs. Said one thing and now Im not breaking my fingers to get karas.

He really feels like diet Nago but with Baiken gatling.

Haven't watched the video yet just wanna say the mustache lookin hella nice 👌

Do you think it would be too broken if eating just gave him stamina and slight health back but have the levels be random? It honestly feels useless

I don’t think there’s any way a new character drops without dooming. It’s either dooming about how weak they are or dooming about how strong they are. There is no middle ground.

Just gonna say, listening to your take on this was refreshing.

everyone posted Sin getting punished for 20 damage by 2P after f.S/beak but Sin will CH you for 250 (meterless)

I'm shocked You mean showing the move that's made to cancel into only hitting once and getting punished wasn't how I should judge a character?

They'll probably end up tweaking the meter like they did with Jack-O

Wow, that gameplay, and lv 276. I've tried Sin, but never won a match & am lv 3 w/him. Looked up his Dustloop move info, but am not sure what combos to focus on. Guess I'll use moves shown in this. Good vid.

im trying to focus on the video but I just can't stop looking at that stache man xD

So far, I've opted to not use the dash cancel for the Oki after connecting with the followups. Winning 2 neutral situations and getting the confirms into the special moves is generally enough to push the opponent to the corner and build the tension for super. By then the opponent either plays slow enough for me to Regen a bar to have the two I need for Kara super and the wall break. Or I can extend my pressure long enough with RC to build the next one for the mix into the wall break.

i think another thing that's interesting about sin is that, like testament. he builds a lot of meter due to his gameplan using so many specials and their followups. so if sin gets any offense going he's gonna have a bar in no time. which he can either use to kara cancel into supers or if he doesn't have stamina he can make himself safe with a bar of meter and continue offense that way until it comes back

Just make his far slash not have a million recovery and beak driver not punishable on hit, and he'll be fine. Those 2 things are dumb af. Regardless, I still thinks he's pretty good 👍

I don’t wanna be too quick to judge,feels like we need to see more to have a proper opinion. I’m usually like that with other Characters. He’s eventually gonna get buffs. I really hope they buff the Food to give him either 1 stamina bar or full bar and get rid of the random component on the buff bonus/duration. I don’t like not knowing what I’m working with and I can guarantee the Sin’s player too don’t like it. Sin without Stamina is not Scary at all, I get it it’s there to create an opportunity to take back the match. Just this once I feel like we should allow it,he’s competing with monsters out there,Arcsys buff the damn character.

I think it will take some time for Sin to flesh out. It's hard to tell if a character is good or bad without a lot of matches under their belt with said character. I also do feel not having obvious strengths day 1 in this game is kinda a big deal.

Do you think you can explain Macros? I keep hearing people say "I use a macro this" but I'm not really sure what they mean by that.

backing off seems like it would only be a huge issue against happy chaos but I admit I don't play strive so maybe it's more deadly more often than I'm thinking.

Me after reading title: “he’s perfect”

It might be a bit of sidenote, but I feel like some of his move have too much visual clutter. The red effects look good, but it feels like they come in the way a bit.

my main issue with him as an anji main is that ch tyrant barrel is bugged and always fires early

It's good you're having fun with him, and even better to hear you're still maining Bridget. It's just so much fun to watch her doing her thing, pulling out a new trick every few rounds when your opponents are no longer on guard for everything.

Tempest played 1.0 May and now plays leo. I guess if the character isn’t broken they are considered weak. But what would i know, i am a filthy casual #carried #skillissue

I just wish the food would still fill up the energy bar..

Diaphone I'd sub twice just for the title if I could

Sin's pretty good on the celestial floor so far... but in general people got the leo syndrome with elk hunt and they try to dash at you way too much. Its really easy to grab.

Also I hope that his Eat gets really buffed. Like a 10% thing more consistently, ya know?

sin abuses the dash macro button harder than any other character but he's burning a resource to abuse it. the problem i have is that his neutral is awkward (and straight up bad if you don't have a resource to burn) and his bar takes longer to replenish than i think any other character in the game which i foresee becoming a point of great annoyance for players who stick with the character as i imagine a quirk will start coming up where sin is forced to break wall off of one interaction in order to have meter to make his tools safer while his stamina is replenishing and possibly even struggle to close rounds out because he's burned too much of his resources beak driver being minus on hit definitely isn't great but it's followup and utility on offense i think almost makes up for that his normals and aerials are not great, in some cases even worse than anji's but instead of having worse normals to justify toxic interaction with his specials, sin's normals try to justify his ludicrous offensive potential gazelle step is terrifying and it feels as if sin's entire kit was balanced around it to the point that certain extensions after gazelle step require near if not frame perfect timing in order to get stamina in general is a bit problematic for sin but rightly so. it needs to be the bottleneck for sin's offense. maybe the delay before it begins replenishing is too severe but time will tell for certain i'll say he's starting in a similar relative area as jack-0 was when she released. very clearly flawed out of the gate and likely in need of a bump but probably not to the degree most people are demanding

I joined the glue eaters when I decided to play learn Sol for his last game, and Pot for the triple scoops. Sin looks way cooler than his Xrd counterpart, so I gotta play him based on that alone, but I also welcome his paint chugging playstyle to my roundtable.

Eating is good off of something like a 2D you can't get beak off of cause you can still get a cS meaty after it, and for when you're waiting for your resources to come back but you got a hit into a short combo.

Bro has not heard of happy chaos

Why you gotta beat me up bro? (My sin color on the Left)

Ok but the stache tho... 🥵

He definitetly doesn't feel like he needs a meter. Like the shit other resource characters could do without their bars holding them back would be undefeatable but Sin wouldn't be that bad. All of his resource reliant mix is beatable and decently reactable so i dont feel as if it woukd be all that broken if he didnt have a resource at all. He should have a way to get stamina back and i feel the eating move would be perfect for this, as it stands it's kind of a useless move. Leo is gonna be a god awful matchup for him since he can just dp his entire mix and Sin can't go under Leo's zoning for some reason.

I got myself a new bottle of glue lets go

I'm with a couple others in the comments. I haven't enjoyed Guilty Gear Strive since it came out, especially because my main game is Tekken, and the defense is WILDLY different, and arguably far more in favor of the offensive player. I played Gio for a long time, just because she was simple, good rushdown without any insane execution to lock me out of testing things. But the more I played, the more I found that the game just...didn't want me to play. And to be clear, most of it had to do with oppressive (At the time) matchups that were difficult to lab out without delving deep into characters I very much had no interest in learning outside of how to manage defense. Community at the time also had a very toxic, gatekeep-y mindset. But since Sin came out, I've been having a blast. Kit is simple, with enough spice to keep me discovering new things to play with, while not needing to do a college thesis to feel like I can experiment in learning a matchup on the fly. I do see potential problems should his tools prove overtuned after the community has had them to play with/play against for a while, but I've had some matches where players prove Sin is a character that lines up with Leo's playstyle. We'll see how it shakes out, but for now, I'm really happy to be finally enjoying Gear like I've wanted to since release, with a new community, and a character that really jives with me...but yes, Sin eats glue lol. Sorry for the longwinded post!

NBA Bridget looks pretty cool

Hey, glue eaters need love, too, I'm happy for them.

Sin is the next Happy Chaos!

Leffen confirmed glue eater?

As an Anji player, it feels like I'm playing a more capable Anji lol, it feels pretty natural to me for some reason.

I feel like Sin and Bridget are both fairly undertuned compared to previous DLC characters, but I think that's by design. As a day 1 Testament main, I feel like they were undertuned on launch as well. I think characters with range they're just generally hesitant about. However, the first patch after Testament's release, they buffed them pretty significantly. I think we should be thankful for Sin's flaws now because there's a very real chance they disappear by the winter patch lmao

It's Strive we can include the whole cast in Strive as easy.

Sin seems very balanced. He seems like he has strong things but he also has a lot of things that are very detrimental. (kinda doodoo frame data on some moves, extended hurtboxes on everything, restrictive meter management.) But some of these things like the meter management will likely be patched up as more people get used to him and learn more advanced tech. I feel like he's definitely not top tier but he's definitely not bad either.

Uncle Diaphone

I feel like they’re gonna fix the punishable on hit shit cus that don’t feel right at all💀

10:50 Diaphone you pos, you did that to me like 4 times yesterday and you knew it was fake.

He is too dependant of a resource that he has no way to get back, other characters that heavily depend on resources at least have ways to generate or recover it.

I honestly feel ashamed I can't even be good with such a glue eater like sin. I feel like my singular brain cells is bouncing around my head like a tv screen saver.

I like the stache ngl

I have yet to see anyone comment about how you can special cancel into food to keep his normals safe instead of just tossing out Beak Drivers/Elk Hunts all day.

Played against this character online, he is legit the most frustrating character to fight. Imagine if nago didn't blood rage and could high low mix you off of a kick. 2H should not hit low if the overhead is also going to be unreactable, he is basically grounded ino with a neutral skip

People are saying Sin is bad because like Kizzy Kay they're trying to downplay so he gets over buffed.

Can we get Sins mom though? Make this a family affair. Please...also give Testament badlands ...please (IYKYK)

“most degenerate character” Bridgette’s yo-yo begs to differ

I love sniffing that hot glue, can't wait to get Sin

They made Sin the new OG Sol.

I stg people have learned nothing from goldlewis and happy chaos. Everyone jumped go conclusions thinking they were shit on day 1, little did they know the characters were busted

His 6P is one of the most ignorant buttons I've ever seen.

holy fuck bridget is balling

Sin is a uga buga character, smash buttons and you gain

Elk Hunter and Beak Driver have some horrible hitboxes but besides that you're right

People in the comments still complaining about Ram a year later wtf? What am i missing here? Also Diaphone that thumbnail is HILARIOUS 🤣🤣

Please how easy of a character is sin? As easy as Gio?

Let's say he bad so we get food buffs 😏

gonna play this again after the world nerfed sol over and over and hes the only character i like other then sin in this game. need new cheap and buttons

and thats a good thing!

Eff Sin. His mom better be the next character or I'm telling my dad who works at Arcsys to cancel season 3. Also, nice mustache.

I really wish that the food special would recover stamina or accelerate stamina regen instead of giving you some random effect. Other than that, things being minus on block but cancelable allows you to do some ghetto frame traps. 236H being punishable on hit is dumb AF but it just means that you shouldn't throw it out without stamina. I'll probably sub him because he's arguably the easiest character in the game, just gotta know how to manage that stamina.

the fact that level 1 is so bad means i would never eat with him. maybe if it was only level 2-5. hard maybe.

As an Axl main I'm all aboard the hate train

I find his overhead rather easy to react to

Im sorry, didn't watch your vids in a while but WTF IS THAT MUSTACHE

Sin is literaly Gio 2.0

nice moustache

Can you not cancel his followups into super, or special into super? That seems really dumb that I have to do a Kara just to get a super ^^;.

He has more extended hurtboxes than Nago, less range than Nago, less health than Nago, can do less specials than Nago, and his buff system is basically worthless. Plus his dp can be punished in like 3 different ways and his damage is less than Ram or a Nago. The vampire really robed him of everything. 😅

Moustache is a good choice

Ky range Sol damage YAEET

He needs huge nerfs for his normals man. His cs hits empty air but i got dmg from him

B teir unless his moves become safer.