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Single Arm DB OHP - My Favorite Things 

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Jeff Alberts talks about his favorite shoulder movement.
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@RockHardFitness
@RockHardFitness 8 лет назад
These guys have knowledge on ANOTHER level. 3DMJ has taught me so much, thanks guys.
@jenbehlmaier7465
@jenbehlmaier7465 8 лет назад
Me and my friend were literally JUST talking about this the other day. He recommended that I do "Jeff Alberts" style of single arm DB press instead of OHP and I was searching everywhere trying to find a video for it. This is great!
@BeyondGenetics
@BeyondGenetics 8 лет назад
Just started doing single arm dumbbell press this year and already have seen significant gains from it. Good video Jeff
@Team3DMJ
@Team3DMJ 8 лет назад
Awesome and happy to hear that!
@MarioTomicOfficial
@MarioTomicOfficial 8 лет назад
That 225 lbs rep looked epic! That's my OHP life goal. Would you say that the single arm DB is generally a more sustainable movement for progression? Looking at my Barbell OHP it's progressing really damn slow. Also I really like the points you made about the wrist and range of motion. I imagine more range of motion would be beneficial for development.
@Team3DMJ
@Team3DMJ 8 лет назад
Thanks appreciated. Yea it's one of those movements you won't see load increases weekly unless you're a newb...I shoot for loads every 3-4 weeks but it's not uncommon for me to reset.
@BrodieGiesbrecht
@BrodieGiesbrecht 7 лет назад
I've developed a minor shoulder impingement that seems to get agitated when I OHP with a barbell (although benching seems fine). Going to give these a try this week and continue till my shoulder is 100% again. Great video thanks Jeff
@michelesherokee567
@michelesherokee567 4 года назад
Thanks Godfather! Hut my shoulder and left subscapuar a while back. I'm healed now and back on BB OHP but will use this as a secondary and back up in future workouts. Appreciate all that you team puts out in content and dedication. Stay strong!
@matthalloran4075
@matthalloran4075 8 лет назад
Have added these in last 3-4 months and is now my favourite vertical press.
@matthalloran4075
@matthalloran4075 8 лет назад
+TricepBrah less. Like 65-70 percent of seated
@IggysBodybuildingCamp
@IggysBodybuildingCamp 8 лет назад
As we get older it becomes especially important to sustain longevity by avoiding injuries. There is always a better alternative exercise for each person's individual body injury frailties. Great vid and valuable advice as always.
@Team3DMJ
@Team3DMJ 8 лет назад
Totally agree especially in my 31st year in the gym. Got to train even more intelligently.
@GotMilktank
@GotMilktank 8 лет назад
I literally added these to my program last week. Tip for those with bad core or lower back, go on your knees. Everything else the same.
@Team3DMJ
@Team3DMJ 8 лет назад
+GotMilktank Thanks for sharing.
@TheMiscTutorials
@TheMiscTutorials 8 лет назад
Been doing this for a good while now. Still my favorite pressing shoulder movement.
@TheMiscTutorials
@TheMiscTutorials 8 лет назад
But I've always only stabilized with only my core, I'm going to try this how you recommended it. Maybe will be able to increase loading or reps.
@petardrumev3250
@petardrumev3250 8 лет назад
Can you make video about bodyrecomposition? (how should we train and diet for optimal comeback results and injuries free )
@DoMoreSwag
@DoMoreSwag 8 лет назад
def been helpin my barbell OHP strength and even Floor pressing strength
@garbanzobeans7984
@garbanzobeans7984 8 лет назад
just absolutely poetry in motion. Technician achieved!
@James-yv9kp
@James-yv9kp 8 лет назад
Jeff, I thought the elbows were meant to be angled in slightly in front of the body to prevent wear on the shoulder joints. not back so both elbows and shoulder joints are all in line.
@Team3DMJ
@Team3DMJ 8 лет назад
+Lacov S For me personally and for the reasons I mentioned in the video it's right for me. I cant say that it would be ideal for you because I don't know what you've felt or experienced up to this point. Sounds like you need to some experiencing on your own to find the best positioning for yourself. Might take some time, but you will find what works well for you.
@James-yv9kp
@James-yv9kp 8 лет назад
+Team3DMJ okay thank you Jeff, appreciate the response
@brainpower6807
@brainpower6807 4 года назад
@@Team3DMJ you should read this www.ironmanmagazine.com/the-case-against-overhead-presses/
@chiron13
@chiron13 3 года назад
@@Team3DMJ My doubt is cleared. I did not feel comfortable or even safe in the angled position.
8 лет назад
We've lost so much of the old school movements like the dumbbell overhead clean and jerk which allows us to use a heavy weight at the top so we can shrug and squeeze the traps and shoulders and avoid pushing through the bottom. No one does the clean high pull or bent presses, or windmill presses. So much has been lost to time and machines. I've been reading a lot of old Thomas Inch and Bill Starr books and I now realize that people found interesting lifts and clever programming that worked well for their body. I think science is important but sometimes following a system that is "science based" can make us myopic and married to a training system that doesn't really work for us. Looking back, that was the mindset that caused me to injure myself. Thank God the hubris and stubbornness of my 20's is gone.
@Team3DMJ
@Team3DMJ 8 лет назад
I have to admit in my 20's I was very stubborn too lol. I think we're in a great time right now...science has really opened the door for some great progress...the sport has advanced tremendously the past 10yrs. Much of that progress has come from the science, but just as equally the experience athletes have gained in that time frame as well...that imo goes hand in hand. Personally I'm going to stay on top of the science but I'm also going to look at guys like Marshall Johnson who have years of experience...there's no reason to not benefit from science and one's personal experience.
@kerribolen3633
@kerribolen3633 8 лет назад
Awesome! Thanks for sharing Jeff!
@Team3DMJ
@Team3DMJ 8 лет назад
Ty Kerri and more than welcome!
@supimsatan
@supimsatan 8 лет назад
Great video!, i just changed my MP to this exercise and it feels really good.
@Team3DMJ
@Team3DMJ 8 лет назад
Thanks and that's great!
@oscarbear7498
@oscarbear7498 Год назад
Wow, so simple yet brilliant. Its also alot cheaper and takes less space
@copernicus99
@copernicus99 7 лет назад
Hi Jeff, Thanks for this excellent advertisement for the single arm OHP! Wondering how (whether?) you train your rear delts?
@garbanzobeans7984
@garbanzobeans7984 8 лет назад
Awesome video Jeff!
@copernicus99
@copernicus99 8 лет назад
Great stuff. Thanks.
@gordenlitzinger1953
@gordenlitzinger1953 8 лет назад
hell yea gonna try it
@jaxxondapup5170
@jaxxondapup5170 8 лет назад
Well said, Godfather!
@BB-fn2eb
@BB-fn2eb 4 года назад
Agree 100% with the single in my opinion.
@drehzeit9539
@drehzeit9539 8 лет назад
Great physic Thumbs up
@Changjsuh
@Changjsuh 8 лет назад
Finna implement this movement into my split. Hopefully see some half natty 3D delt gainzz
@aerialdude
@aerialdude 2 года назад
This is good stuff. Although I do want to point out that you can hold the barbell differently such that it doesn't bend your wrist back so much. Starting Strength talks about this in regards to how to grip the bar. The bar should be resting on your wrist bone, not held further back in your hand. I still think the dumbbell press is cool, but I just wanted to say that I think the reason your wrist was having issues is due to how you were holding the bar. There are videos somewhere on youtube of the Starting Strength guys demonstrating how to set up this grip position btw. Maybe this info will help someone!
@scottelbadass
@scottelbadass 8 лет назад
one thing I learned from Stan efferding, was always try to incorporate more muscles in any training session. So when I do dB ohp I do it seated with my feet in the air to work that core, especially while doing hypertrophy work. great video. thanks
@Team3DMJ
@Team3DMJ 8 лет назад
I'm not sure I'd want to give that one a go...sounds like it would take focus away from maximizing the loads I can work with., but ty for sharing. I really appreciate it :)
@SacredTemplar8
@SacredTemplar8 8 лет назад
+scottelbadass While that is a valid way of going about it,it's not the only way to incorporate more muscles,and probably not the best one.When you're using heavy enough loads to cause hypertrophy,you want a stable base to start from,for safety and strength reasons.If you want to work your core,you needn't worry,doing standing overhead press will work your core and all the rest of your torso stabilizing muscles very efficiently,and probably with higher carry-over to general movement.
@scottelbadass
@scottelbadass 8 лет назад
+SacredTemplar8 true and thats a good point, this isn't something i do on sub -maximal or maximal loads though.... that would be dangerous but as a super set its not to bad
@SacredTemplar8
@SacredTemplar8 8 лет назад
scottelbadass Ah,I see,that's actually an interesting implementation!
@gothops2632
@gothops2632 2 года назад
Hey Jeff, are you still doing this movement without any shoulder or low back issues?
@XxlatinoPRxX
@XxlatinoPRxX 8 лет назад
I start doing this exercise and I think is the best for my shoulders. I hate the bar I have a shoulder problems too.
@Mr9727
@Mr9727 8 лет назад
+Ruben Gonzalez ;( brah
@eukleidesk6759
@eukleidesk6759 8 лет назад
Really interesting video Jeff. Thank you. I'm going to give this a try at some point. I've tried the unilateral DB press before, but seated, and it felt unstable, but bracing with the free hand while standing looks like it would help to not lean so much.
@Team3DMJ
@Team3DMJ 8 лет назад
+Eukleides K Thanks and I think the bracing may find it more comfortable for you. Without bracing I wouldn't have any base to press from. If you try it let me know your thoughts. Thanks again.
@eukleidesk6759
@eukleidesk6759 8 лет назад
I gave it a try and it feels good. The main thing I like is below able to use the free hand to help get the dumbbell into position. It's a lot better than having to swing two dumbbells up.
@Mr_SamuelAdam
@Mr_SamuelAdam 8 лет назад
Switch between these, landmine presses and upside down Kettlebell Press
@jasonplassaras2564
@jasonplassaras2564 6 лет назад
Hey man! Is the shoulder and arm position in one -hand shouldr press right? Isn't this too far out? I thought that 45% degrees inside is better for shoulder health!
@JuanManuel-kj9fu
@JuanManuel-kj9fu 8 лет назад
i've developed a very stong front delt (by ignorance over the years), that takes over my OHP and benchpress a lot... would you give me some tips to deal with that ?
@ordinaryguy815
@ordinaryguy815 6 лет назад
Juan Manuel I had the same problem for years. Stop doing all overhead pressing, all front raises completely. Try narrower grip in bench presses, and pre activate pecs with an isolation movement before the compound. Stick to side laterals only for side delts, work on your form on those.
@Ezrocker000
@Ezrocker000 8 лет назад
I tried this for a while, but i switch to the standing OHP, i was just having 2 much pain on my forearms, hmm mayve was the lockout of something idk LOL... while doing this plus not the best balance (Maybe to much weight), well every body is different eh?
@Team3DMJ
@Team3DMJ 8 лет назад
Balance could be too much weight, but yes if the movement is painful it's best to find a good replacement imo...longevity :)
@MichelleLin_cutlikediamondz
@MichelleLin_cutlikediamondz 8 лет назад
Would wrist wraps help with a standing OHP? I've never used them but wonder if they would prevent as much wrist extension.
@100marcoch
@100marcoch 8 лет назад
do you shrug at the top? what happens with your shouder blades, thats something that confuses me a lot...any advice?? as always awesome video Jeff!!!
@LTPottenger
@LTPottenger 3 года назад
No you have to lock the shoulder blade downward to protect your shoulder.
@bevictorious7340
@bevictorious7340 3 года назад
@@LTPottenger greetings brother , it is better to allow the shoulder blades to move freely otherwise the movement potential will be compremised
@LTPottenger
@LTPottenger 3 года назад
@@bevictorious7340 Thank you.
@bevictorious7340
@bevictorious7340 3 года назад
@@LTPottenger 😊
@ihazchezeburger
@ihazchezeburger 8 лет назад
Thanks for the video Jeff. One of my favorite moves as well. I have a question for you; how tough on your libido and mood was it to maintain the bodyfat levels you display in the video? Im hoping to reach a similar level during my current cut, so any info regarding the aforementioned parameters would be greatly appreciated. Alberto seems to be able to stay super lean, all the time. Cheers!
@Team3DMJ
@Team3DMJ 8 лет назад
+Hehe Minven More than welcome. That conditioning was hard to attain and to maintain...50 weeks of prep and I definitely didn't need to live one more day like that. Once my shows were done it was all about recovery. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-vDKhDjuPfbU.html
@ihazchezeburger
@ihazchezeburger 8 лет назад
+Team3DMJ What level of bodyfat is generally maintainable for most natural bodybuilders year round? 8%? I dont mean maintainable in regards to the amount of food calculations, more in regards to libido and overall mood. Thanks.
@ButterJibby
@ButterJibby 8 лет назад
+Hehe Minven probably depends on the individual, 8% seams a little low
@blakersquakers
@blakersquakers 3 года назад
Please explain why having the dumbell out closer to a right angle like that isnt bad for shoulder
@Whatisgoingon-od9yb
@Whatisgoingon-od9yb 8 лет назад
I do ohp right now for my shoulder movement. Is it okay to do both or should I pick one or the other in you're opinion ?
@bevictorious7340
@bevictorious7340 3 года назад
It is up to you , you can rotate between them every training block if you want
@henryg3702
@henryg3702 7 лет назад
Do you have any strength dependencies between arms? In other words is your dominant arm stronger than your non-dominant arm?
@DnyAln
@DnyAln 5 лет назад
Great topic great information but I got to say little feels a little slow and dull. no shade I appreciate the videos just my opinion.
@supimsatan
@supimsatan 8 лет назад
Do you feel any stronger in the benchpress by using this exercise?
@Team3DMJ
@Team3DMJ 8 лет назад
I'm not a good bench presser, so not really unfortunately.
@usernameftl
@usernameftl 8 лет назад
I always get some discomfort in my lumbar area on one side, not sure what is causing it during this movement...
@Team3DMJ
@Team3DMJ 8 лет назад
Too heavy maybe? Are you stabilizing with your off hand?
@usernameftl
@usernameftl 8 лет назад
I don't think the weight is the issue, as it's only on one side, and on my strongest side, and it happens even on lower weights. I feel a cramp-like sensation down one side of my lower back, more lateraly, on my left side. I have very very slight scolosis( unoticeable to the naked eye) but nor deadlifts nor the straight bar OHP ever felt like this, so I kinda doubt it's that either.
@Team3DMJ
@Team3DMJ 8 лет назад
+usernameftl Sounds like it's just not the right movement for you and probably best to find movements that don't cause discomfort.
@jeffb587
@jeffb587 3 года назад
what movement do you do to hit your post delts? some kind of compound pull?
@catedoge3206
@catedoge3206 8 месяцев назад
real
@oguzhosoglu8673
@oguzhosoglu8673 8 лет назад
but why single arm rather than regular db shoulder press with two dbs at the same time
@dogelincoln7167
@dogelincoln7167 6 месяцев назад
Ima comment 7 years later..🎉
@kalm5076
@kalm5076 8 лет назад
Glute gains were major from 11 to 14!
@user-sb6uf1pk9t
@user-sb6uf1pk9t 4 месяца назад
Single arm is so much harder. i normally OHP two 50 lb dumbbells. But doing the single arm OHP, i can only do 25 lb dumbbells
@Mr_SamuelAdam
@Mr_SamuelAdam 8 лет назад
Jeff ever try them half kneeling? Noticed for me helps me stay out of extension.
@Team3DMJ
@Team3DMJ 8 лет назад
I haven't Sam. Tbh this setup really doesn't bother me at all...it feels really comfortable. I do like you've found a variation for yourself that works.
@Mr_SamuelAdam
@Mr_SamuelAdam 8 лет назад
Yeah for sure. I've switched back and forth. Great video! Keep them coming buddy :D
@Sal_McCoy
@Sal_McCoy 8 лет назад
Do you stay this lean all year or are you in contest prep at the moment?
@Team3DMJ
@Team3DMJ 8 лет назад
No not at all. The clips you see are from my '14 prep. There's no way I would want or could hold that condition long term. It's just not the best environment to be in health wise or for maximizing potential progress. At the moment I'm about 30lbs over my stage weight where for me personally feels normal.
@oscarbear7498
@oscarbear7498 Год назад
Its also less impact on your spine
@HeraclesZeusAres
@HeraclesZeusAres 8 лет назад
Jeff.. I'm unable to do OHPs right now due to some shoulder issues.. but I can handle any kinds of raises quite easily.. are they enough for delt development till my issues are fixed ?!
@bigbobabc123
@bigbobabc123 8 лет назад
I think a way to look at it would be if you can't press, raises will have to do. They are good though, some people don't shoulder press and are fine.
@HeraclesZeusAres
@HeraclesZeusAres 8 лет назад
+bigbobabc123 thanks mate!
@tatrzanski1
@tatrzanski1 8 лет назад
Regarding shoulder health is it not actually better for the shoulder to not flare the elbows out during the press? I also like dumbell pressing better because it focuses more on mid delt but I find that if I flare my elbows it hurts my shoulders. However, when I do OHP with barbell and have my elbows in front of me it does not agrivate my shoulders as much (but I do not feel my mid delt working as much).
@Team3DMJ
@Team3DMJ 8 лет назад
+Andrzej Tatrzanski In your case I would military press and do side laterals to hit both front and medial delts if that doesn't cause discomfort. I wouldn't try forcing exercises when it causes pain. I'm one to find what works well for an individual and that's going to often look different for many people.
@tatrzanski1
@tatrzanski1 8 лет назад
+Team3DMJ Thank you!
@MrRossT1
@MrRossT1 8 лет назад
Why not use a Hammer Strength Shoulder press machine? o.O
@FalconsSB190
@FalconsSB190 6 лет назад
I do these all the time. Your obliques have to work so hard to stabilize when it gets heavy but holding on to a rack ruins the purpose imo.
@alalmalal
@alalmalal 2 года назад
115
@JonathanCheco
@JonathanCheco 8 лет назад
A W E S O ME!
@Team3DMJ
@Team3DMJ 8 лет назад
Ty!
@c510sony1
@c510sony1 8 лет назад
i have always thought you did that because you don't have a straight back bench lol
@Team3DMJ
@Team3DMJ 8 лет назад
Haha...actually my bench does adjust upright. I just prefer doing one arm dbs standing as I can focus more so on just my right shoulders rom...which has caused me issues in the past.
@maximisatwat
@maximisatwat 5 месяцев назад
Stabilizing with other hand is cheating. Not "single arm". Put other hand on belly or shoulder or down side. U'll need to drop the weight until you learn the right position. Reduce how hard you are holding gradually (like a progression) until you barely hold with any force then take away arm altogether or drop weight and work up. Also keep feet together and you'll develop super -solid core. Also you must lean slightly from ankles. not waist. That jamming you get on double OHP is your mechanics jamming. Fix it by leaning. The muscle-strength is no different but the "real usable strength" will be much more because you will be using spine and hips to generate stability instead of gripping with arms and feet like a spider.
@mliniman
@mliniman 8 лет назад
"You can see they are being hit siginificantly" No. Activating a muscle doesn't mean it is being hit significantly. Use common sense and study the function of the side delts. No wonder your side delts lag even when you get really lean.
@Team3DMJ
@Team3DMJ 8 лет назад
I respectively disagree. I feel my delts are strong in a rear double bicep and from the front the shape of them make them appear weak. Also my arms are a very strong body part which gives the illusion of weaker delts from the side. There's been improvement over the years and my eyes can clearly see front and side delts are clearly being hit. I appreciate you chiming in and giving your thoughts.
@Mr9727
@Mr9727 8 лет назад
+mliniman fuaah you got slammed, sleeep nw
@mliniman
@mliniman 8 лет назад
+Team3DMJ And how exactly do you know your side delts won't develop better with side laterals included? You seem really stuck on your ways. As a man of "science", you don't seem open minded at all and rely too much on anecdote. It is clear that the side delts will not be involved heavily on a shoulder press. I'm not saying they won't be involved at all but it is far from optimal.
@Mr9727
@Mr9727 8 лет назад
mliniman Not for overall shoulder gains. If you progress on OHP, you'll notice the gains far from just doing lateral raises. I've notice some ridiculous gains, ESPECIALLY on my side delts just by progressing on OHP 3 days a week. I'd recommend it for everyone
@Sal_McCoy
@Sal_McCoy 8 лет назад
+mliniman The overall load placed on the side delt will be greater with a press movement. Side laterals may result in more diffusion/pump but not necessarily more growth stimulus. That being said most people should do press, lateral and rear delt exercises in a program because anterior delt and traps overpower the smaller muscles.
@stevenewer1
@stevenewer1 5 лет назад
I see so much nonsense from guys who " TRAIN " they go to the gym to "TRAIN" and the do the same movement ad nauseum for years and years . ...and this movement is typical the arm out wide shoulder press . Well we werent born with arms out wide were we . We were born with symmetry to do a multitude of movements and generally with heavy loads its all closer to the midline of the body that the body likes as all the muscle chains are aligned . Doing one exercise is dumb, so dumb its laughable if done for years... it trains OUT your body balance and symmetry and why the hell would you do that . Astonishing anyone would do it . Your shoulders jeff are mediocre anyway my man . I dont need watch anymore in future
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