Flybubble Nancy and I often like to go a hill walk 🚶on our local Sussex South Downs hills first thing in the morning 🌄 to get some exercise and build up a healthy appetite before breakfast 🥞🥐🥓🍳😋. If the weather conditions allow, we sometimes make it a hike and fly 🚶🪂 e.g. as seen in this new Flybubble video! 😀🎦
I always thought of the Niviuk Skin 3P a bit of a compromise wing. I think the advantage of that wing is that's its easy to fly, self-stabilising and pitch/roll-stable, easy take-off, so good for less experienced pilots. It also gives support to the pilot maybe a bit quicker than a regular wing. One thing I never liked was the risers, and sorting the lines (all the same colour if I remember right?). But for weight/volume it's not massively different to a regular doubleskin (Niviuk Skin 3p 16m is 1.6kg, whereas an Advance Pi3 16m is 1.85kg, both can be packed pretty small, especially with a vacuum bag. I'd say that Pilot demands are higher on the Pi3 due to the higher speeds, but for that extra 250g you get a lot more performance and a way more versatile wing. So in my eyes the Skin 3p doesn't make a lot of sense. What I do think is super interesting is comparing wings like the Skywalk Pace and Run and Fly 2 to regular wings. The Skywalk Pace is tiny in 16m size, and only 1.05kg. The R+F and the Pace aren't compromises, they are only a descent tool. That said , I'm super impressed with the Pace, it has really nice colored lines, nice risers and in calm air I was getting a Glide Ratio between 5 and 6.
Thank you for sharing your insights with us! Its always highly appreciated to receive feedback derived from real-life, hands-on experiences such as the one you provided 👆💯💯
Hi, looks like you're not flying with a reserve... This is a non-judgemental question, and I am a noob so please consider it in that light, but how commonly do people fly without reserves?
For that condition and this type of hill and flight I will fly without reserve also … there was no planing to thermal and when you fly that low and with no traffic then ppl fly it without 💁♂️
@thesuit4820 Hi, you are correct, for this very simple flight in easy conditions with very safe wings and no other pilots around we chose to fly without a reserve, which is quite unusual for us. 🤓 In answer to your question, to my knowledge most paraglider pilots fly with at least one reserve most of the time, as do we. 🪂
I bought my first single skin this year, it is great in no wing conditions. Inflation is easy, pitch and roll stable, descent glide. But in a soaring wind or thermal conditions it's performance is terrible. Worst wing I have every purchased, it is too limited in use!
I’ve got a UFO2 and soaring and thermal performance is good. The only downside is penetration so yeah between thermals it’s not good but equally you don’t buy a single skin to go XC. Additionally the sizes are designed small so you’re never going to compete with a full size wing when it comes to thermalling. The advantages of weight, stability, launch ease and very very easy packing, even standing up, makes them super useful.
Exactly, they have poor penetration into the wind. Worst then a full size paraglider. This makes it much more limited in use, even in early morning hike and fly missions. A lightweight mini wing is only a couple 100 grams more in weight and has better performance on every single front.
@@balkan_pil0t 100g? Let's not debase the conversation with exaggeration. Additionally you're putting performance above all other factors. On a sketchy short launch in nil wind, having a wing that inflate in 2 steps and remain inflated in near no wind, is a huge advantage. Also one that you can easily pack again if you decide not to go. Regardless of weight pack size is also a factor if climbing, scrambling or running. And the stability in flight or when kiting a single skin is unmatched. So many positives outweigh the few KMPH penetration you loose for the purpose a single skin is designed for.
If you read the above comment you will see I wrote a couple of 100grams…. I have had to hike back with my single skin more then I ever have with any other type of wing (paraglider, speedwing, mini-wing) Each time is was because of wind, and each time I could have flown if I was not packing a single skin.
Hey how’s it going..I have a nova doubleskin and a run and fly and the double skin is a very nice wing to fly and will happily soar away.I fly it with a range x-alps 2 so with reserve I have a proper flying wing that is east to carry up and very compact and has reasonable performance.The run and fly is fun too but really just a decent tool.I also fly a BGD base 2 lite with woody valley GTO light 2 for the short carry ups and proper XC days.I have to see the 3 sets of kit all work great on their chosen days…I live in west of Ireland so a lot of long carry ups and H&F days up big mountains 🤪so light kit is handy!!!
