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SINGLE v TWINS-LOW-BUCK, 1000-HP TURBO TEST 

Richard Holdener
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FULL RESULTS. Low Buck, Ebay Turbo Test, single $163 turbo vs twin $163 turbos. Also, low-buck twins vs single (Big Buck) Borg S480. Max Data-Boost pressure, Back Pressure and Charge Temp. Did twin turbos cut back pressure in half? Can low-buck EBAY Turbos compete with big-buck Borgs?
Can the BBC 454 make 1000 ho with twin $163 turbos?

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@OGbqze
@OGbqze 4 года назад
I'm addicted to your videos... Such an underrated channel...
@kegomania
@kegomania 3 года назад
Bro this dude is on it.
@cloudrhezii
@cloudrhezii 3 года назад
Damn former trickshotter how ya doing 😂😂💪
@orangetruckman
@orangetruckman 3 года назад
So underrated!!! I keep trying to get people to subscribe and help out hero out! The more we support him, the more information we can be provided 🤗 I wish I could live near Richard, that way I could in any free time. Love this channel 😆
@Ghostman86
@Ghostman86 2 года назад
I really like your videos man. The knowledge you possess and the fact that your just giving it away is awesome!! Keep up the good work 👏
@mannieecker8602
@mannieecker8602 4 года назад
Richard, you are sharing an amazing amount of data with us and it is all good, solid credible info. Thanks a ton for doing these vids for us as it is not easy to find this sort of information.
@austinma62
@austinma62 4 года назад
Love the work you are doing. Very informative. Biggest thing I noticed from twin turbos vs the s480 was the back pressure. That s480 has a lot of back pressure on the high end. To me, seeing how much less back pressure the twins had is very appealing to me. I would think a setup of properly sized twins would last longer on a motor vs a bigger single turbo.
@jimimacross6115
@jimimacross6115 4 года назад
"THANK YOU!. "Richard your engine dyno videos/Dyno print out explained helps me take my mind off of me having cancer & my chemotherapy treatment's.."LMAO!.."CUZ!.."4 whatever reason when I'm in pain I put on your videos & I don't think about the pain..."THANK YOU RICH!
@bobbytarte2299
@bobbytarte2299 4 года назад
I don't know you but God bless you and be with you on your fight. I will be praying.
@p1fly
@p1fly 3 года назад
Get well soon brother
@davidsabyan2481
@davidsabyan2481 4 года назад
There's more info on this video than an entire turbocharger book. There was a day when no one would share this detailed dyno test, thanks for posting Richard!
@timbenks8122
@timbenks8122 3 года назад
I swear I get more hyped every time I watch another one of you videos, finding your channel has been the most exciting thing that’s happened all week, keep the amazing content coming Richard 😁
@richardholdener1727
@richardholdener1727 3 года назад
Yay! Thank you!
@Cliff_Anderson
@Cliff_Anderson 4 года назад
Great stuff. Been reading your articles and books since the MM&FF days. Always learn a lot form your testing.
@brettsharbono3022
@brettsharbono3022 3 года назад
Found this channel a few weeks ago and it's addictive. Real world testing and proven dyno results can't be argued with. Thanks Richard your doing God's work!
@richardholdener1727
@richardholdener1727 3 года назад
go tell 1M friends
@jvt1226
@jvt1226 4 года назад
You are great Rich! Thank you and the gang that set you free to do this. Steve Brûlée’ is another great guy. These videos make me so happy to get to see! Thank you so much.
@erok_
@erok_ 2 года назад
This is literally the only video or document that has genuine data showing why twin turbo may be better. I see almost no one talking about back pressure. This channel literally answers the question of: Is SINGLE or TWIN TURBO better, and the answer is very situation based: More responsive single turbo can be better than less responsive twin turbos A single big turbo may be worse than twin of the same turbos at the same boost, for both longevity and power. A bigger but more responsive single turbo may provide outright more power everywhere and be more responsive everywhere than an incorrectly sized twin turbo. This channel is an absolute goldmine of information. Thank you for making these!
@richardholdener1727
@richardholdener1727 2 года назад
twins and single come down to packaging
@TurboHDT
@TurboHDT 5 месяцев назад
bigger hot side, single Turbo set up right is as good as twin, mine is a big 98mm T6 makes 1500hp pretty easy but my motor is build to handle more than that, I only push it when I'm after a number at the drags, another problem is where to put the other Turbo, my engine guy told me what to buy to achieve that which I did, my car is a Chevy SS in the USA on the street is just dumb running it that high can be dangerous also
@chris2170
@chris2170 4 года назад
Great work! Thanks for sharing all the knowledge and videos, I see your channel growing fast.
@75zl1
@75zl1 4 года назад
I like how you listen to your audience, great videos!
@ufarkingicehole
@ufarkingicehole 4 года назад
Thanks Richard! This is what I've been looking for.
@griffsrearmountturbothemod1623
@griffsrearmountturbothemod1623 4 года назад
Love the testing you do, following with great interest from🇦🇺
@BJL2142
@BJL2142 3 года назад
Thank you Richard for all your content, I enjoy having your videos playing in the background and listening to them, if you have ever considered doing a pod cast style show where you talk about these things I know I'll be happy to listen 😁
@drakeolson2539
@drakeolson2539 4 года назад
Man great content!!! Answered a lot of questions for my 6.0 build I had on back pressure!
@tensixtythreevideo
@tensixtythreevideo 4 года назад
Bro you got the best channel on RU-vid. My new favorite!
@ryanaxberg9263
@ryanaxberg9263 4 года назад
another great video richard, really appreciate what you are doing!!
@christophercasey8833
@christophercasey8833 4 года назад
This channel is going to blow up really soon. Better yet, its gonna be crawling with people having intelligent conversation and seeking improvement. Finally.
@HeyLiana1
@HeyLiana1 4 года назад
I appreciate all this fantastic data for free thank you Richard
@ewaltsauto
@ewaltsauto 4 года назад
would love to see that test on a 6.0L LS
@hugoyebra7347
@hugoyebra7347 2 года назад
Thnx for all the awesome vids and info professor X
@stacekirstein9646
@stacekirstein9646 4 года назад
Thanks for doing this test! I asked for a twin vs single test and you did it -cool! I was surprised that the curves down low were so similar, I would have thought the twins would have spiked torque early in the lower rpms - very interesting.
@tptrsn
@tptrsn 4 года назад
This is one seriously fantastic video Richard! Thank you!! :)
@kwik440
@kwik440 4 года назад
DUDE !! I LOVE YOU !! You work your as off to educate me..THANK YOU !!
@Val_Killmore
@Val_Killmore 4 года назад
Love all this info you provide in the videos
@SloppyMechanics
@SloppyMechanics 4 года назад
You need bigger injectors? I know a guy ...
@dallastoodessa166
@dallastoodessa166 3 года назад
Oh shit dude, you're famous. I bought a Sonoma just so I can find and roll a fairmont home.
@MLFranklin
@MLFranklin 4 года назад
I love so much about these videos. One cool feature is when your boost pressure is higher than your backpressure, your pumping loop (from the PV diagram) adds to the power rather than subtracting from it.
@JDelta777
@JDelta777 Год назад
I’m also firing through all of your videos, thanks rich
@BearFulmer
@BearFulmer 4 года назад
Thanks for the back pressure stuff and all the other data
@YLTMauto
@YLTMauto 4 года назад
Richard do a video on how to properly tune an engine please.
@bill2178
@bill2178 4 года назад
It would take 50 vidys
@bobhilly546312156332
@bobhilly546312156332 4 года назад
bill2178 even the basics to get most people up and going
@ufarkingicehole
@ufarkingicehole 4 года назад
He addressed it.. get your air and fuel dialed in then dial in timing for max power It's that simple
@chevybub6094
@chevybub6094 4 года назад
Yeltom Automotive “I KINDA ONLY WANT HIM TO TUNE MY MOTOR WHEN IM FINISH I WATCH HIM SO MUCH I JUST TRUST HIS EXPERIENCE MORE THAN ANY SHOP I COULD WALK IN KNOWING NOTHING ABOUT
@chevybub6094
@chevybub6094 4 года назад
Mr flimflam fremdippity danyet NOTHING SIMPL ABOUT THAT TOO ME I WISH WHAT U SAID WAS SIMPLE TO ME 🤣😂🤣😂
@finnroen2334
@finnroen2334 4 года назад
Yes, lots of really good information here. Thank you.
@markhuffstetler1315
@markhuffstetler1315 4 года назад
Great job Richard , with stock bottom end, nice!!!
@brianmiller1149
@brianmiller1149 4 года назад
Great videos, Sir!
@GlobalMediaInc
@GlobalMediaInc 4 года назад
Been Waiting On This One! If Possible, Can You Do The Same Test On Any Small Block LS? Preferably A LS1 Or LS2? Great Video!
@32bitcal69
@32bitcal69 4 года назад
Ummm... I would worry heavily if the gen3 stock ls1 rods are going to stay in the block north of 700.......
@701garage
@701garage 3 года назад
@@32bitcal69 hey has had them well over 1000 hp
@seanhayes1965
@seanhayes1965 4 года назад
Great video, thanks for posting.
@torquetwisted4294
@torquetwisted4294 4 года назад
Thank you, thank you, thank you... Been waiting for this test for a long time. Started building a pretty close build to this a couple years ago but life etc. got in the way. Always new that it would be a cheap monster. I would love to see the difference between the twin gt45's and the s480 with a cam that was purposefully designed for the back pressure of each one. PS... YOU HAVE ONE OF THE WORLDS GREATEST JOBS... I'm seriously jealous.
@woodgrain18
@woodgrain18 4 года назад
Big block Chevys have a special place in my heart, my paw paw has been bracket raced since the 70s and quit in 2004 and for as long as I can remember like back in 96 when I was 6yo he has always had some evil sounding big blocks sounds I will never forget!! You just cant beat how a healthy high compression big block Chevy sounds
@kwik440
@kwik440 4 года назад
O.K, so my brain can't think of any other testing to do! You broke the internet . it's over.. great job !!
@philipmacduffie7612
@philipmacduffie7612 4 года назад
Diesels man. There is virtually no real test data out there on the internet.
@TurboDog73TX
@TurboDog73TX 4 года назад
Kool Vid Richard.
@keysautorepair6038
@keysautorepair6038 4 года назад
Been waiting for this video thanks.
@tngtacticalmiata1219
@tngtacticalmiata1219 4 года назад
So, properly sized single is the way to go. Less complexity, less points of failure and the same power and response. duly noted. Thanks, Man!
@bill2178
@bill2178 4 года назад
Quicker spool with twins
@177SCmaro
@177SCmaro 4 года назад
@@bill2178 If your single is sized correctly the difference in spool at a desired horsepower is negligible. That said, twins are often more forgiving and can be easier to package.
@1flynlow
@1flynlow 4 года назад
wouldn't the best of both worlds be sequential?
@177SCmaro
@177SCmaro 4 года назад
@@1flynlow Yes but you're also compounding the heat unless you switch from one to the other. There is an easier but somewhat less effective solution to that, though. Get an little bit oversized divided scroll turbo and get one of those quick spool valves. www.suprastore.com/spquspva.html only problem is they're spendy but still cheaper then twins or sequential/compound.
@blow0me
@blow0me 4 года назад
where you watching a different video ?
@dariogonzalez6249
@dariogonzalez6249 2 года назад
Just found this channel,I was so confused not much anymore,I'm getting me another job..lol or draw the line on ideas.Thank you Richard 👍'd & subscribed.
@richardholdener1727
@richardholdener1727 2 года назад
Welcome!
@marcstlaurent3719
@marcstlaurent3719 4 года назад
Thanks again Richard for more great content I don’t see anywhere else . I’m a big block guy and loved it , I run two 369S Borg Warner’s and make tons of power at 6800 with big torque instantly all through a CSU blow through ad I haven’t made the jump to EFI yet .
@danielsullivan9865
@danielsullivan9865 4 года назад
Do you have back pressure problems? What's your turbine AR and how much boost and how many cubic inch
@marcstlaurent3719
@marcstlaurent3719 4 года назад
Daniel Sullivan , don’t know my back pressure but makes 1340 to the wheels at 20 lbs through a 4l80 and a nine inch , figure 30 % drivetrain loss at 6600 where rev limiter was set . Boost curve still climbing at 45 degree angle on graph . 555 cubes AFR 335 heads 8.3 compression 29 degrees timing . Turbine 1.0
@LT3Fluffy
@LT3Fluffy 4 года назад
@@dj4monie most people dont need and/or cant handle 1300hp. Most people will be happy with a small cheap engine with a small cheap turbo sending out 5-600hp that dont have to worry about a 5000 dollar rebuild
@BBBILLY86
@BBBILLY86 4 года назад
@@LT3Fluffy agree. Plus another $7,000 in torque converter, trans, drive shaft and rear axle to have a chance behind 1300 HP
@marcstlaurent3719
@marcstlaurent3719 3 года назад
Bill Jr I know what your saying , in my 5000 pound truck it’s 10,000 in a trans , torque converter , controller and another 5-6 thousand for the fab nine inch with a wave lock diff and Wilwood brakes to be reliable and stop great without the annoyance of a spool which I have tried , but it wasn’t about doing it on a budget it’s my street sleeper quiet/docile cruising flat hood truck that I drive everywhere, go to car shows , flog at the track , parking lot slaloms , that I’ve owned for seventeen years and just keeps evolving. If I was just looking to build a quick car it would be a 5.3 or 6 litre with a single turbo running the Holley Terminator so it would be easy tuning . Btw my truck still uses a high end blow CSU carb and drives mostly like a fuelie as nine years ago too many people were having problems with the Fast system as that was really the only high hp option st the time .
@sandyfuller6617
@sandyfuller6617 4 года назад
Great job Richard 👍
@nellyfarnsworth7381
@nellyfarnsworth7381 4 года назад
Thanks for the knowledge.
@joshmajors5963
@joshmajors5963 4 года назад
I'm glad Richard shows these videos. So many people think that just because you throw twins on that you can count on double or tripling the output. There are many that believe it will be the same size twins gain over the single BC its double the size. All about proper sizing and ring gap with tuning. Richard is the man!
@babyruuth
@babyruuth 4 года назад
How do you not have 1m+ subs, you are moving the HP bar/$ to a new level! I am officially recruiting everyone I know....
@ddn79
@ddn79 4 года назад
You really need a Patreon account. So much knowledge is being dropped here. Feels so guilty not paying for this. Awesome work Richard.
@snoman003
@snoman003 Год назад
Thanks for all your research. What a time to be alive! In the 60' and 70's, if a backyard mech was getting "1 pony per cube", he had accomplished something. Now, motors like the LS/LT platform (5.3 ltr) are rated at 355 hp/ 390 torque and that is the baseline for the backyard mech to START with. With simple " bolt on parts", someone can easily double their HP / torque and have some fun. However, on the downside, I look at all my fav muscle cars now, knowing that a slightly tweaked factory truck could rip the doors off them and am sort of sad. What I wouldn't give to be 30 years younger, have the truck I have now and a bit more time.
@n5yiz
@n5yiz 4 года назад
excellent content!
@pmd7771969
@pmd7771969 Год назад
I'm proud of you, rich Bloodviking
@ghostofsparta6579
@ghostofsparta6579 2 года назад
Am a subscriber.. such a amount of valuable information and details!! Keep it up champ👑
@richardholdener1727
@richardholdener1727 2 года назад
Thanks for the sub!
@ghostofsparta6579
@ghostofsparta6579 2 года назад
@@richardholdener1727 thank you for your time and efforts explaining & spreading awesome high quality and detailed information in a very interesting & simple way for us to understand in a video that is so much fun and exiting to watch I can't thank you enough sir👑
@ajjskins
@ajjskins 4 года назад
Richard, could you do a vid all about cylinder compression ratios, octane numbers, and timing. Its the background content that ppl dont know about boosted motors and performance builds.
@justinwalker2947
@justinwalker2947 4 года назад
Lots of good info an thanks for moving your head to the bottom right corner
@simonaragon6590
@simonaragon6590 4 года назад
That was a great video , I learned a lot from it . I think for the long run I’d probably go with twins because they’re inexpensive to replace and the back pressure is a lot lower
@toddcoleman5388
@toddcoleman5388 4 года назад
Thank you for what you do
@Sleeperdude
@Sleeperdude 4 года назад
Great video love this information cheap horsepower
@madvtecyo546
@madvtecyo546 4 года назад
Holy crap that’s an amazing comparison
@rmsm55
@rmsm55 4 года назад
Great videos! I subscribed! Thanks
@TurboJohn74
@TurboJohn74 4 года назад
These uploads are always exciting and I can't click them fast enough. Thank you for doing this!
@eddieweaver3609
@eddieweaver3609 4 года назад
Great videos! Keep them coming. I would like to see you design and build combinations that would fit in a car. That is what most people are doing and most of what I see you do will only fit in a Dyno room..
@chadkinney3830
@chadkinney3830 4 года назад
Badass content! Thanks love it
@8wireracing694
@8wireracing694 4 года назад
So much good info thanks 🙏
@dolansontag3731
@dolansontag3731 2 года назад
Very underated love this channel better than powernation
@bluemustang7416
@bluemustang7416 4 года назад
Great video 👍
@slows102
@slows102 4 года назад
That torque curve is awsome!
@cobblegilll
@cobblegilll 4 года назад
Thank you. Nice video
@johnparrish9215
@johnparrish9215 4 года назад
That was great, I loved it.
@kylemilligan752
@kylemilligan752 4 года назад
Fantastic tech Mr Holdener. Thankyou😁 The $850-$1000 on3 94mm and 107mm turbos would be very interesting! A 427 ls corvette made close to 1300whp with the 107mm here on youtube
@homefront3162
@homefront3162 3 года назад
Love ur channel
@tomcampbell4414
@tomcampbell4414 4 года назад
Great info!!! Thanks!
@karenthomson9749
@karenthomson9749 Год назад
Great stuff !
@hugieflhr03
@hugieflhr03 4 года назад
These videos are awesome. I would like to see more cheap supercharger options. How to make a manifold to adapt and tune.
@tomlord5652
@tomlord5652 4 года назад
I love your videos, keep doing what your doing. I'd love to see what you would do with a GM 305 CID gas engine or a 6.2 litre GM diesel engine and I'll keep looking forward to your videos.
@MrBlackbutang
@MrBlackbutang 4 года назад
It everything A/R ARE THE KEY TO WORK PROPERLY.
@douglasbaxter3346
@douglasbaxter3346 4 года назад
It’s all about tha flow love it
@robertkeime4907
@robertkeime4907 4 года назад
Great video
@RoyBrown1794
@RoyBrown1794 4 года назад
Sorry for all the paragraphs but I didn’t know who else to talk to lol your the best
@ilovethephilippines8991
@ilovethephilippines8991 4 года назад
I never get tired of watching your very informative vids, which is ALL OF THEM. Eddie Australia 89 C4..
@0rbie
@0rbie 4 года назад
I’m a Ford guy and is still my favorite channel on RU-vid right now. Can’t wait for some Coyote content
@tommynewman1283
@tommynewman1283 4 года назад
I ain't a Ford fan but I totally agree
@0rbie
@0rbie 4 года назад
Anthony Thomas I meant that in the way of he’s mainly been doing LS stuff with the sprinkle of hemi/2v stuff.
@joshfeister6566
@joshfeister6566 4 года назад
I like all cars really but die hard bow tie guy... Love the LS engines
@twinturbo496
@twinturbo496 4 года назад
Thank you!
@johnwoodworth248
@johnwoodworth248 4 года назад
326 usd into Canadian funds is approximately 11.9 trillion after the exchange rate 👽
@fascistpedant758
@fascistpedant758 4 года назад
Don't forget taxes and shipping and taxes on the taxes.
@johnwoodworth248
@johnwoodworth248 4 года назад
Fascist Pedant lol indeed !
@thomashalley7258
@thomashalley7258 4 года назад
Just make a friend just south of the border. Unless you dont live close to the border. Saw canadians all the time in montana.
@thomashalley7258
@thomashalley7258 4 года назад
@Matt Miller could save on tax thats not paid.
@timmosley3331
@timmosley3331 4 года назад
Richard you are the best guy on RU-vid , I cant stop watching your videos so thank you! and thanks for letting me know that my heads are not so good= 317 heads . But anyway, Can you do a video testing high dollar turbo's vs cheap Ebay turbo's and maybe carbureted duel vs single plane intake's. Thanks again.
@richardholdener1727
@richardholdener1727 4 года назад
have lots of single vs dual plane intake tests, check out the EBay turbo vs Summit S475 video
@mikestufano4961
@mikestufano4961 4 года назад
Tim we just watched the gt 45 vs the s480 in this video rite here. Lots of good info. Kudos Ritchard!!!
@jerrywatson8281
@jerrywatson8281 11 месяцев назад
I'm a die hard ford guy and I've seen 340s outrun big blocks many times and they were potent street cars in lets say a dart or cuda...but there's something to be said about how powerful/potent the 351 Cleveland/Boss engines were...just look at the career of drag racer bob glidden,multiple championships with Cleveland powered cars to the point the NHRA banned it to usher in the 500" rule and forcing the 351 Cleveland powered out of pro stock...so glidden builds a 500" cubic inch engine based on the Boss 429 were he dominated pro stock once again with multiple championships with that combination!
@By_Any_Means_Necessary
@By_Any_Means_Necessary 4 года назад
Great video i definitely vote for the twin Ebay turbos setup at that price for about the same power for a fraction the price and better on the motor with lower back pressure that's a win win
@kens8903
@kens8903 4 года назад
Can't wait to see these setups in the new corvettes
@ImhoS4
@ImhoS4 4 года назад
@Richard we often struggle with to restrictive turbine housing for some factory position turbo - Please test what is better maxing boost on small turbine housing or lower boost but more timing !
@brandonshowe
@brandonshowe 4 года назад
Man I’m so glad I found your channel. I have so many questions I wish I could ask you. I’m looking at doing a turbo setup on a gen 3 6.0L. It has a set of L92 heads and its carbureted. It also has an XR 281 cam. The engine runs good now in an S10. Could I still run a carb? What size turbo?
@brianfrost303
@brianfrost303 4 года назад
So are we going to talk about how Richard puts out more content in 2 weeks than EM put out in a year?
@richardholdener1727
@richardholdener1727 4 года назад
go tell everyone
@timothybayliss6680
@timothybayliss6680 4 года назад
The only thing I wish you had was the Turbine a/r. That's why the single starts to choke at 700hp and 10psi. They work better at higher boost for a couple reasons: the compressor efficiency is higher with higher boost, there is higher manifold pressure relative to back pressure or drive pressure and it keeps the whole system under pressure. With a larger turbine housing they will do way better for bigger engines or higher airflow. There is nearly a direct inverse relationship between turbine ar and peak drive pressure. This was awesome man, thanks.
@scottbankston3377
@scottbankston3377 4 года назад
Outstanding, this is the kind of stuff I'm trying to learn about. For a guy like me (LS neanderthal) this kind of information gives me a starting place to learn and experiment with a reasonable budget. You're doing a great job with the content don't slow down, come on down to Texas and help me throw one of these in my pinto
@modeverything1
@modeverything1 4 года назад
Gotta love that BIG BLOCK TORQUE!😎🤤
@MyJdray
@MyJdray 4 года назад
Hey rich... Love your content. Could you do a video on how to ring gap a junk yard motor for boost?
@northsidemechanic
@northsidemechanic 4 года назад
I kept waiting for that thing to hang a rod out the side. You must be have WAY more luck than me, but when I got over 1,000 Hp and 1,000Fpt the stock rods either bent or broke. I can't imagine making 1,200 or 1,400 with stock rods!! I just found your channel. I am a long time Big Block Builder and loved this video. Great info.
@timothycarey3883
@timothycarey3883 Год назад
Its different load on a dyno compared to street, so the stuff that survives on engine dyno may send a rod when the weight and load of a car and drivetrain are added.
@rogergm92
@rogergm92 4 года назад
THANKS FOR THIS VIDEOS! Enlightening to see the back pressure comparisons. What would you search in a cam for twin turbos knowing that they produce less back pressure? Can you give an example with this combo? Cam for single and cam for twin.
@paxtonspeed
@paxtonspeed 4 года назад
Very good!
@mikestufano4961
@mikestufano4961 4 года назад
This is what I’m doing to my 2003 6.0 Ritchard.Twins on a budget!!
@MLFranklin
@MLFranklin 4 года назад
Another fascinating video. I'm curious how we can predict these things beforehand by first looking at the turbomachinery compressor and turbine performance maps. I'm just thinking out loud if there is a way to explain that for a general audience.
@lacboiatl
@lacboiatl 4 года назад
You listened to the commentors about the graph being blocked by the pip of you. That's great.
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