It’s funny how a couple of months after being cleared of the charges in a legal case that the yacht sinks and his mate gets hit by a car! Corporate hit job???
As a Captain on a commercial vessel, I find the situation strange. In my opinion: 1. If the tornado picked up water then it should have been picked up by the radar. 2. Weather forecast in the MEd is very accurate with high resolution weather models like AROME. They should have looked for better shelter seeing the windspeed and direction. 3. Somebody should have been on watch during the night at this size of vessel. 4. They should have made preparations to reduce ingress of water, etc.
@@renz6913 but not far off ends. Just North of Sicily. I believe since most storms there are from Northerly wind, it still gives good indication what is to come.
Even hus co-defendant died four days before him, in another city. They were both accused of fraud and acquitted. This is very weird. There is something behind those death. It can be spiritual. Can you imagine, he died, the lawyer who defended him die, his co-defendant died, separately in another city, his child died, i believe, the other people were at the wrong place at the wrong time. Sometimes, those people make alliances with the Devil to be rich. Maybe, this, is the time to pay now.cWho knows. The weirdest thing is the fact that his co-defendant also died four days before him and his lawyer.
Another example of the problem with many modern sailing yachts. The traditional full keel, internal ballast hull does not experience this sort of event. Let the racers do what they please with unsafe designs, but keep those designs away from cruising yachts. Ridiculous.
@@vylbird8014you took the thought right out of my head. And I was surprised that the mast is made of aluminum. There are much lighter materials that could have been used. That and the retractable keel taken into consideration and this starts to make a little sense.
Exactly, what's wrong with the good old British seaside? You can't swim in the water anymore thanks to sewage but you can still sit in a deckchair and get sunburned. 😂
how did 15 people escape into a life boat, and the other 6 who were the most important people aboard, not escape. I'd imagine that the crew would go out of their way to rescue Mike Lynch and friends. And it's odd that the most expensive boat in port sinks and no other boats report having been put in desperate straights by the storm. Lots to investigate and sort out. Months of interesting reading ahead if anyone decides to cover the story.
If you think someones gonna go out of their way to save the “important” people in an emergency such as this you have never seen any dramatic situation in your life….
Don't you think that it was mostly the crew that were rescued because maybe they had been roused from their sleep by a general quarters due to the sudden bad weather? The passengers would not be disturbed unless there was imminent danger which happened so quickly that the crew did not have time to alert the passengers so they got caught below when the vessel capsized and sank.
As they had been partying onboard, most of the crew would still be awake, clearing up. The couple with the baby were sleeping on deck. Those sleeping (guests), would have no chance to get out of the cabins, as it happened so fast. The crew are friends of mine, here in Mallorca, this is devastating for them.
They have the ability to cause localised storms now.
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@@Youalleatmuffins he was hit ny an old man who stopped and rung the police highly unlikely they hired an old man going shopping with his wife for a hit job people get run over every day
As an ocean solo sailor both in the Caribbean and the Mediterranean Sea you see many of these super yachts. One of the most iconic is the Maltese Falcon. Seen by myself in Antigua, Sardinia and recently in Leros in the Aegean. Many have lots of hull openings at the side and the stern. Some are full of what I call rich man’s toys, jet skis ribs and diving equipment etc. firstly why did the boat get knocked down? Huge masts that act like sails. Obviously must of been severe wind speeds being a water spout tornado. Sustained so it couldn’t right itself. Must of been hull hatches openings or hatch failing. With massive ingress of water to sink it so quickly. Didn’t they have watch system with professional crew onboard. What’s causing these storm conditions and tornadoes over the past week in the Mediterranean? It’s climatic conditions with intense heat. Greece with intense heat waves high sea temperatures at depth! This creates intense storm conditions from the high heat of both the sea water and the atmosphere. Planets way of reducing temperature is natural phenomena such as electric storms, intense rain and winds plus water spouts. Natures heat exchanger. Climate change is here and now! Tragic loss of life but should super-yacht sink immediately like that even in storm with high wind conditions?
It's by no means unknown and this yacht had the tallest aluminium mast of any yacht - exactly not what you need in a thunderstorm. Hulls of composite construction have been known to suffer extensive damage from lightning strikes.
…at the start of the storm.. when no other yachts or boats or ships sank 😂.. how DUMB do they think we are?! And didn’t his work colleague die about a week ago? 🤔
I thought, according to some sources, if you want to avoid tax, then non dom on the seas is the place to be - until you need all the emergency services you don't want to pay tax for of course.
Some of the guests were sleeping on deck in the hot night, which might indicate hatches/doors/retractable windows were open. If rough weather nobody sleeps on deck, indicating the surprise. Retractable keel position, state of mast are unknown. It happened so quickly there was no time to run through the huge boat, lying in the water at an + 90dg angle filling with water, to get everybody out. Absolute nightmare ! RIP !
@@hernanbernal-ki5id Prove it ! How will you sink this massive boat ? How will you time it with the extreme weather? How will you not get caught ? They are gonna lift the boat and insurance, lawyers, experts galore are gonna investigate thoroughly. And prove you wrong ! ;-)
No interviews with the captain how odd? I’m a skipper and my theory is that this vessel is very difficult to sink in mild sea despite a water flutes, sails were furled at that time of day giving less resistance to the sudden gust, added to this tragedy, his business dealings are questionable and if you consider who else was on the vessel and who was tragically killed in a car accident? There is always mystery surrounding oligarchs??
The storm was not a surprise, it had been forecast for days. It had been tracking across the med for nearly a week. What is true is that it can come on suddenly, and its exact track changeable, but, any sailor of any worth would know that it was lurking.
I don’t think people understand how insane this is. They all won a case against HP everyone involved died and the one who wasn’t on the boat got killed in a hit and run! That’s mental. Sue the wrong companies and you’ll end up dead
Boeing whistleblowers for 500 anyone? Who’s HPs largest shareholders? Oh funny they happen to be Boeings largest shareholders too. I’ll take BlackRock and Vanguard for 1000 Alex. The kid who tried to assassin Trump was in what commercial? I’ll wait ….
So in one weekend everyone involved in this case, both defendants, the witness and lawyer in two separate incidents? Sailing experts saying that yacht should not have sunk. Billions to one
I don't believe in coincidence, and with Stephen Chamberlain (the partner in crime), getting killed 2 days before whilst out jogging, something smells to me and itnot Roses
*In my learned opinion a a large compressed air balloon/raft used to lift ships of the sea floor was punctured underneath the yacht this reduced the buoyancy of water and capsized it. i tested it using a toy boat and puncturing a balloon submerged underneath it. the ship sank quickly.. i suggest you do it for yourself.*
Not a conspiricy. Any yacht owner expects the wind to be largely on the bow when at anchor. This wind was on the beam and powerful enough to tip the boat with no sails up, All you need then are enough hatches and port holes open. On a hot sticky night ventilation would have been a priority.
@@jonathanwetherell3609but we know now- since Korsika 2022 and Lefkas the year before - that hurrican-force microgusts out of supercells change direction so quick that a yacht on anchor cannot follow immediatly. So the microgust attacks the yacht fully from the side. Yachts should be designed to cope with this. An old gaffer- SIR ROBERT BADEN POWEL- anchoring near BAYESIAN has done this.
The mast was the tallest in the world apparently, perhaps too tall to take storms because it broke, something faulty in the engineering aspects perhaps. Other yachts in the area didn’t. have the same damage or their masts broken. they were anchored, tall mast being blown by the severe storm when it broke the boat went on it’s side.
@@darlenechandler2403 If the mast broke that would have reduced the windage acting on the boat and it would actually have been safer. Having been in a similar situation myself I reckon I know something about this.
Why aren't the survivors being interviewed? They can tell us what happened. Why did so many survive at 5AM in the morning? Did that ridiculously tall mast contribute to the capsizing of the yacht? Foul play needs to be investigated.
The hypothesis that the lifting keel was up is interesting. I never asked myself what effect that would have on the ultimate stability of a yacht. And it must have a significant effect.
But it wasn't a lifting keel. A crewmember of a systership commented that these yachts have a lifting CENTREBORD. A centrebord does not or only little contribute to the stability of the yacht. The stability is secured by a stubby fixed keel. This crewmember told also that they never used the centrebord down when anchoring because it sending lousy vibrations through the hull. Nevertheless I wonder if a centerbord down would give an momentary, additional stiffness to the stability of the yacht in a sudden microburst. It could be interesting if there is something said in the instructions of the designers or the yard.
This one didn't have a lifting keel. The current hypothesis is that someone "left" the tender platform on on the port side and the bathing platform on the transom open which flooded the engine compartment and destabilised the boat.
@paulbishop1695 I wouldn't trouble your already fevered imagination with fanciful notions. Just leave it to those with common sense to work it out for you.
My thought also. never visit Sicily just days after you win a major court case against a Mega Corporation. The lawyer and the owner both had many enemies. lawyer was DA for the infamous Souther District of New York - the same that is railroading Donald Trump
As an ex jachtsman on yachts smaller than this I find it exceptionally bizarre circumstances. Bizarre things 1. Crew all survived 2. The storm wasn't that bad water spout or not it shouldn't have sunk this ship 3. Passengers sleeping in cabins are not woken and given life vests. (Storm can't have been that bad if they were sleeping?) 4. The speed at which it apparently sunk. (Water tight compartments should have kept it afloat even if capsized) I can't explain it, but it's no wonder why people jump to conspiracies when it's as strange as this. Either some kind of catastrophic failure or what?
Keel raised? Very tall mast creating additional leverage, warm nights, doors and hatches open, only a few hundred metres from shore giving a false sense of security. Occams razor rules.
*In my learned opinion a a large compressed air balloon/raft used to lift ships of the sea floor was punctured underneath the yacht this suddenly reduced the buoyancy of water and capsized it. i tested it using a toy boat and puncturing a balloon submerged underneath it. the ship sank quickly.. i suggest you do it for yourself.*
@@JohnnyMotel99 its been done When the torpedo explodes, it creates a bubble - when the bubble starts to collapse, it happens from the bottom upwards, due to the pressure of the water. This collapsing bubble releases an unbelievable amount of energy, acting like a secondary explosion. If the bubble reaches the surface, it creates a incredibly powerful jet of water that can reach over hundred meters in the air. thousands of times by the navy!!!
A storm capable of sinking a 180 foot yacht would have destroyed every vessel in the anchorage and the town as well. A waterspout has an average wind speed of 50mph, enough to maybe rip a canopy or two. In order to sink her in 5 minutes there must have been a catastrophic hull breach, on the level of the keel completely detaching, or a bomb going off
If a waterspout has an average of 50 then obviously it could have been 100mph. Even for an hour, it could have overwhelmed the boat with water if lower portholes were open. The boat didn't sink, it was capsized and afloat for hours. People in orange were standing on deck, why weren't they trying to look on lower decks for survivors. Diving equipment on board would be a good option, but probably too dangerous if the boat is at risk of sinking.
When a yacht is very rapidly sinking due to alleged hatch left open and very fast water intake, due to open hatch(es), and maybe more, there likely was no time before it quickly sunk to go to cabins & look for people. Then to get them up to the deck & get into a life raft. It all happened very quickly. Huge water intake suddenly they said.
@@AndreasS.-mh8ti Hatches on sailboats are very small. In order to fill a 180 foot vessel with enough water to sink it in minutes you would need fire hoses pumping hundreds of gallons per minute through the hatches. Remember also that the yacht would have multiple high capacity automatic bilge pumps pumping the water back out. A high-end yacht will likely have alarms signaling excess water in the bilge, giving time for passengers to escape
This "expert" that they've wheeled out is a yacht rental and sales broker. This is like using a travel expert, such as simon calder, and asking him to comment on the causes of an aeroplane crash- which they actually have done. What IS IT with the media? They should have asked an experienced Mariner, Salver or boat designer instead.
Come on! The lady driving the car, it got hacked and was driven into the jogger friend. The yacht designed not sink with all the technology, it got hacked too and was jammed to capsize. Remember that they Kcufed with HP (A mega IT company with many defence contracts) and got away with it, or so they thought
Seems the keel was up leaving just the 4m draught and a higher centre of gravity. Ships with that shape of hull will roll like pigs high waves and from the Mary Rose and Herald of Free Enterprise, it does not take much water to tip a vessel.
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other boats were damaged check it out eyewitness accounts they were unlucky and caught in the middle of it the storm lasted 2 hours italian weather reported it after the heatwave broke this week plenty of people seen it happen they were just unlucky to be in its path
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check out restaurant footage in the town were it happend reasuarnats were destroyed in porticello
The crew have to practice abandon ship drills on a monthly basis, so it should have been immediately apparent what was going on and what action they needed to take, plus the crew quarters will be located in a different part of the vessel to the guest cabins so may have had better access to the upper deck and will know intuitively where the emergency escape hatches are located etc. The usual procedure in an emergency is for the crew to muster first and then if necessary round up the guests, obviously there was not time for this as it happened so quick. The last thing a superyacht guest wants is to dragged out of bed every time someone burns some toast and sets off the fire alarm, hence they are investigated by the crew first.
@@bombercountyblues dont you just find it a bit iffy that they beat massive fraud charges in the us against all odds. Then one gets hit by a car and dies and the other in a storm. Within a few days. Could be chance but imagine they beat Russia and it ended like this you’d deffo wonder about it.
@@harrysalt5277 funny how he was involved it AI cyber security and selling companies to America, then beats fraud cases and they defendants all die within a week. My last comment was deleted. But imagine if it was Russia the news here would tell you it was dodgy!
The reason why the sinking of this yacht is "unheard of", is because it DIDN'T sink due to bad weather ! Unfortunately we'll never find out the truth just like how MH370 'disappeared'.
That flight was on the way to the US military base island Diago Garcia. Apparently long after the plane went missing there was a phone ping/message from, one of the passengers phone.
Super Yachts are death traps! Should have had water tight bulk heads, there are virtually none ON SUPER YACHTS as the clients want floating salons so the designers win over engineers. Super yachts are floating Salons which are death traps. Shocking how the industry went for easy money to satisfy the ignorant clients as opposed to building a ship.
While I understand that the rules that apply to commercially chartered boats are different to those for a privately owned yacht, I find it hard to understand how a crew of ten would be enough to both operate the Bayesian safely while catering to twelve guests. I would imagine that at least three or four of the crew members will have been 'interior crew', dedicated to serving the guests, and that while some of those interior crew may have had deck qualifications, enabling them to double up during docking procedures, or whenever all or most hands were required on deck, leaving the other crew members to operate the boat on a rota-system basis. Whoever was 'officer of the watch' that night would've been tasked with keeping an eye on the weather and crucially, on the boat's position, in order to ensure they weren't dragging their anchor - especially given their proximity to the port and to another boat at anchor. According to the available data, Bayesian's anchorage moved considerably before she capsized, which should've triggered whoever was on watch to alert the captain, who would then presumably have reacted in the same way as the skipper aboard the boat nearby, who rescued the survivors who'd made it into one of the life-rafts. The storm hit incredibly quickly, as shown in CCTV which caught the moment the Bayesian was engulfed. Despite this, the dragging of their anchor should've been enough to ensure the presence of the captain at the helm, who might then have had time to turn on the yacht's engine and loosen the tension of the anchor chain, thereby enabling him to maintain control of the vessel, as the captain of the other boat had managed to do. I suppose, given that the Bayesian was a very modern boat, it could be sailed with very little effort from the crew - sails being either hoisted or lowered at the push of a switch, with navigation done by autopilot, and with far less surface area than a motor yacht needing to be cleaned or maintained, so perhaps the five or six 'exterior' crew members, including the captain, will have been enough to comfortably operate the boat safely, but with twelve passengers aboard, whose safety, along with that of the boat and crew, is their paramount responsibility, just seems to be a highly risky ratio, IMHO.
As an ex crew on Superyachts, I also thought that 10 crew for 56 meters was inadequate. On a 50 meter power yacht some years ago when 60 meters was a very large yacht, we had 16 crew, I was a single handed chef (for the owner, guests and crew I never slept but I was much younger then) and it was only just enough. On my last 70 meter we had 18 plus a chase boat crew. For 12 guests, the interior crew would have been run off their feet with cabins to service, attending to all guests needs during the day into the night, cleaning, laundry, detailing etc. As interior crew you handle fenders in docking and although sailing yachts are different, this Perini is a motor sailor as well. So two engineers, Captain, 1st Officer, Deck Crew, Single handed Chef leaves only 3 interior which I would have said was completely inadequate. Possibly lack of crew quarters but I doubt it. Maybe the owners ran the boat short-handed.
@@andyblyth4519 Exactly as I was thinking, though as a privately-owned sailing yacht, it's possible that one or two of the passengers may have doubled as 'unofficial' crew - the owners, for example - who having sailed on her multiple times previously may have been familiar with the operation of the boat. In any case, I can see how a sailing yacht like the Bayesian could be operated with minimal crew without guests aboard, but when you throw in those twelve guests, the ratio of crew to guests does seem highly inadequate, even with interior crew doubling up and manning fenders. As for two engineers, that's highly unlikely. I would imagine the Bayesian mostly sailed in relatively local waters, for short periods. Given that they were never likely to be too far from a port, they may even have made do without a permanent engineer on board. Counting the skipper, 1st Officer, a Chef, and I'll give you one engineer, that leaves a maximum of three interior crew members and three deckhands, including Bosun or Leading Hand. And given that they'd have to operate a rota system, they'd have to have a minimum of three stewards. So three deckhands, at most, on a 56 meter luxury sailing yacht. By the way, like you I also worked on boats, though that was when I was much younger (I'm 63 now), including on a 'superyacht', a cruise liner, and on a three-masted schooner.
edgallad, so a poor person would have the wherewithal to own this cheap family runabout??
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you need rich people whether we like it or not i am skint, my mate is a milionaire he owns a roofing company doing building complexes but he employs 34 regular roofers.so he creates jobs and taxes he goes away at leat 6 times a year on holiday thats the way it is but he has worked for it
It's Italy and they're in the midst of an investigation. Maybe they aren't permitted to speak publicly at this time. Not all countries are like the US with press vultures at their doors harassing them.
There was an incident way back in 1899 in my hometown of tacoma Washington. A 335 foot steel hulled 4 masted sailing ship that only a few years old and was of a very good proven design. It was at anchor waiting to load wheat with the holds empty and uncovered, she had huge logs attached by chains on both sides to stabilize her. In a gust of wind one of the chains broke and the ship capsized and immediately sank taking all hands with her. 14 i believe. You can Google the wreck of the ship Andelana in Tacoma Washington in 1898. It happened on new years eve.
@@duanehorton4680 that is why I said at the end of the commet that I'm quite certain it happened on new years eve. If you Google the name and place there's a lot about it. Its a really interesting story.
5 am, probably crew was probably asleep, fizzing or just thinking about getting up for the new day. Probably just one person on watch. When the yacht was knocked down, no one had time to think about anything except escape. PS - the vessel was a unique design; perhaps the weight or position of the sails or position of the keel may have contributed to knock down and sinking.
@@williamlloyd3769 It had a heavily ballasted retractable keel that drew 10m when deployed. 4m when retracted. I doubt the keel would be deployed at anchor. It also had an exceptionally tall, and heavily stay mast that gives a new meaning to "bare poles"! I bet it was caught in the waterspot, knocked down and the center of stability reversed and the boat rolled over 180 deg in minutes.
If you wanted conditions to capsize and maybe sink it, accidentally raise the keel up during a storm- do safety systems prevent this ? Surely keel all the way down at night in deep water as rocking would have very uncomfortable
The keel retracts in order to bring the yacht into shallow water or for docking. They were not in shallow water. It should have been down. A nice summer day on the Med, who would expect a tornado?
They said the Titanic was unsinkable. How can you say it’s unheard of. They’ve got a nearly 300 foot mast massive sails that was hit by a tornado it’s gonna go over
All this guy was concerned about was his profit margins. The anxiety in his voice spoke volumes given his profession. According to this guy, nature doesn't exist! We have legs and not fins for a reason. It is a risk you take,regardless of the engineering. Titanic anyone .
This is nothing like titanic though, they used different bearings which were more brittle under cold conditions and completely ignored safety protocol under the dissolution it was unsinkable and powered through a practical ice field just to meet time targets, this was a freak accident
Didnt his mate , partner in crime just get killed on his bicycle by a car , like a week ago , , also 15 people in the liferaft , but not the primary guest owner … Also at this point they could still be alive …
Yachts are probably the safest vessels to be in simply because of a long weighted keel that keeps the boat stable and upright in all weather conditions. Its such a big yacht that it would be hard to control; I mean releasing sail when there is strong wind, bringing in sail to reduce sail, etc. And a retractable keel that then makes it like a motorboat and unstable, presumably to get into shallow anchorages!
It was at anchor in 100m+ of water, why retract the keel in that depth? I could understand it if entering a shallow harbour or anchorage, but it wasn't in shallow waters. Not a boat guy, so genuine question.
@@asp38350m of water and the keel draws 9 when down. Apparently they make noise and are uncomfortable when down and on anchor. So it’s common to keep them up and even under sail in light wind.
@@daversj are you saying that the keel fin was 30 feet on this vessel? 1/6th the LOA of the ship? I'm not sure about that. As for making noises, I've never noticed that myself and that's on a vessel half the size of this. This boat would have absolutely every creature comfort and I am trying to think of a legitimate cause of noise coming from a lifting keel that would be louder than the sound of a 'storm.'
This wasn't any ordinary Yacht. It had the world's tallest mast that was 75 meters tall. Compare that to a normal sailing yacht's mast like you might take out on the weekend with your family. There isn't any comparison. We are comparing apple's and oranges. How was it designed? How did the mast behave during that storm? Most of us wouldn't be out on the water if the wind is over 30 knots. Most charter captans know this and check the weather reports, sea state before heading out on the water. A ship of this size and complexity is going to have it's own radar and access to the latest weather maps.
Hm. His colleague passes, he thinks "What an opportune time to take a cruise on a boat my wife's company owns!" Then a storm occurs that didn't affect the nearby pontoon boats and those involved in the case haven't been found dead but mysteriously disappear. 🤔 Follow the money. His, hers, the companies and their adjuncts.
The other boats in the harbour were not a "show-off" yacht with an overly tall mast and a retractable keel. Most unstable boat there got hit by a water spout.
I saw that less than 1% of cases taken by the American authorities in cases such as this are won by the defendants so the American authorities won’t be happy losing this one. Someone somewhere may have thought we’ll get him another way.
One problem of large rigs is windage, even with no sails. A 20mph wind gives 1lb per sq foot. In a fresh gale at 40mph the wind pressure is 4.1 lb sqft . In a moderate twister of 100mph the wind pressure is 25.6 lbs sqft . This was the sort of event that hit Bayesian. In their write up about the yacht Peri Navi wrote - “To optimise sailing performance of the powerful Cutter Rig sail plan, Salute has modified keel and rudder lines to improve her stability in keeping with the higher centre of gravity the tall mast produces.” Chris Freer - yacht designer
I was really surprised having watched my little brother paddling around in a 6ft rubber dingy and a decently sized waterspout passed right over him. The video of this tragedy shows very stormy and windy conditions that would make it hard to see the spout. The many I have seen occured under large storm clouds before rain and wind.
What’s going on? The second defendant with Mike Lynch was also killed last Saturday by a car driver while cycling in Cambridgeshire. There was another yacht not as sophisticated as this that’s still standing, that asked at a rescuer of those overboard. It’s too fishy that two defendants died within days of each other. So so sad!
So much media attention when a few rich people drown at sea, but none when a boat with hundreds of impoverished migrants goes down. What a world we live in.
Got knocked on its side , water got in , couldn't right itself , more water in , down she goes. Another ship in front got knocked on her side and then rerighted herself. Bayesium couldn't reright as mast so big , too much mass to lift out of water.
If the vessel was at anchor directly over the top and taunt any swell could be catastrophic. The water intake that capsized the spirit of free enterprise was minimal compared to the size and weight of the vessel. Be interesting to see if the keel is still intact
@@darlenechandler2403 lynch’s wife owns the super yacht (which sank) through a company she controls/owns but she does not own Burgess Yachts who are unrelated.
When I saw how tall the mast was, I thought it was too large for this ship. One account said the sail was laying in the water, if I recall it correctly. If that was true, and sails were up, that could easily knock down a ship. Consider: "On May 14, 1986, on her way home from a successful European campaign, _Pride of Baltimore_ was struck by a microburst squall north of Puerto Rico. Within minutes, the schooner sank; the ship, her captain, and three crew members were lost at sea."
Actually not. Explained elsewhere that likely the keel was retracted which raised the center of mass and with that tall mast the storm just blew her over. And, likely hatches and ports were open causing the vessel to quickly sink. Good info here: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-ovcOgJweuOc.htmlsi=xdnXCWsbBRLHF9KM
at 3:58 "these vessels are all professionally crewed" WHY would your claim be true? maybe it was. maybe yacht-guy was lying. (are you claiming that "tall mast" had her sail up? ALSO: why would she have her keel retracted? real question, what was the explanation by "explained elsewhere"?)
@@smithbrownjones yeah. but the boat seller is the one pushing that, not me. ("professionally crewed" is OBVIOUSLY setting up a legal defense for his product)
It's not unheard of that a big yacht is knocked down, a slightly smaller yacht was knocked down towards 90 degrees in Auckland. There's video of the event so its not unheard of.
Apparently it’s common practice on these particular yachts to keep the keel in the raised position when on anchor. Its much easier to get knocked over obviously when the keel is up in 75 mph winds. The ship wont right itself with the keel up and mast in the water. Water rushed in through the cockpit doors and hatches.
No point investigating it then as you've already decided... WHY is it much easier to be "knocked over" when the keel is up? What do you think the lifting keel actually does? It relies on movement of water past it in order to 'generate' any force (in fact it doesn't generate any force at all, it reflects it). Think of an aeroplane wing when it's parked at the terminal... Yes, you could argue that it might generate some resistance to lateral movements when induced rolls, but I'd say not enough to make any difference. Now onto the centre of gravity- and PLEASE don't tell me the lifted keel will greatly effect this, as it won't. the sails were in and stowed at the base of the mast along the spar/boom. Where was the centre of gravity? Remember that it is indeed a tall mast, but a damned big hull attached to it. As a GUESS I'd say about 5/8 of the distance from the fixed keel to the main deck. With a beam of perhaps 30ft that's a fairly stable platform.
So he and his co defendant beat a 9 billion pound fraud case and shortly after both die in mysterious circumstances, apparently his business partner got knocked over crossing the road 🤔🤫
Reports are that a civil case remains to be concluded. With a lesser degree of proof required and a potential 4billion award, those suggesting a hit job are clearly more deranged than the 'normal' conspiracy nuts. That's before any clarity on whether the civil case will go forward without the main actors. Oh, another possible rabbit hole.....
@@darlenechandler2403 Most unlikely. These yachts are fully airconditioned and at that time of night or early morning, it is highly probable that all doors were closed. The only possibility would be if there was a night crewman undertaking deck cleaning duties and had access to the lazerette and left that open, but it would have been the door not the whole garage. It's very strange and terribly sad. I suspect also that the captain got an anchor alarm and was up, having commanded all crew to turn to which is why most escaped. The lady guest who had her baby survive said one moment she was on the yacht the next moment she was in the sea. The liferaft had already been deployed so someone ordered that unless the vessel went down so fast that the line tethering the liferaft deployed automatically. Normally the crew would get to the cabins of the passengers to get them out, in their birthday suit if necessary, there appears that there was no time.
This happening to a large sailing vessel is NOT unheard of. There was a similar incident in Auckland, NZ a few years ago which, by pure luck did not result in a sinking, though the boat was laid over with the mast in the water.
