Man, the utility of the UI here is spectacular! Edit: "the battle will essentially fight itself no matter what you do" That's not true at all, even moreso now with missles and such being interactable elements within the game world. I won plenty of battles in OG Sins against larger, more powerful enemy fleets by maneuvering my smaller ships out of firing range and looping them around a planet to hit the enemy fleet from the rear, where the squishy long range units tend to hang back. Focus firing with high-damage frigates and cruisers on enemy capital ships early on in an engagement also makes a huge difference, as does focus-targeting captial ships and starbases with your capital ship's abilities. I played a lot of Advent and a well-timed string of repulsor fields from my Iconus Guardians (as opposed to them just firing off randomly) won me some fights I absolutely would have otherwise lost. There's a huge amount of RTS in the combat here, but it's less about clicks per minute and more about maneuvering and timing.
Exactly if you don't pick targets and move your ships during combat you won't maximize the potential combat power of your fleet. I was losing a fight earlier, realized I didn't do targeting, so I reloaded the save to right before the fight and did it again with prioritizing the highest DPS enemy ships first, we swept them away with under 10 ships
@@NF-pk5moexactly man, this game absolutely rewards you for microing battles. The challenge comes in when you have like 5 fleets all fighting in different systems at the same time and have to prioritize one or two to micro cause you can't do them all.
Adevent main here and I can say too that the illuminator vessel is also positioned horribly by the AI and he doesn't mention this in his ships guide video. It's true it has a long range Canon on the front, but it also has cannons on both sides, meaning you want to place it dead center of the enemy formation to almost triple your dps from each one. The Advent have plenty of abilities to keep the squishy shops alive in the thick of things if you use the abilities properly
@@StayCalm0 I would love to find a guide about all this. I've only scratched the surface by discovering those light ships with the shield projection abilities, I don't know about all the other stuff
A little surprised you didn't mention another reason to pick colony capable capital ship early over another is their colonize ability comes with advantages the standard colony ships don't. It may not make a huge difference in the long run, but you can get free extractors, faster pop growth, and things like that out of them.
In SINS 1 the Colony ships were almost always a first pick because of this. Their other abilities were usually also fairly good and so they made good capital ships outside of their colony niche, just making them hella good as a first pick no matter what.
I still prefer getting the combat-focused cap ship first (Radiance Battleship for my Advent obsession) because then I have a high-level wrecking ball of a fleet flagship sooner. Get tons of XP from popping all the mini vanguards in most gravity wells. Second cap ship doesn't take long to get, that's always my colonizer. Then it usually takes quite a bit longer to get your third, mostly cause of the supply cap, and I usually make that the carrier. I even switch my battleship and my carrier sometimes when playing Advent, the Halcyon is ridiculous at high level, absolutely chews up low to mid-level (upgrade-wise) Starbases from out of their range.
It's phenomenal, I sat down and messed with the settings (there's a super huge hidden menu of them if you hit Cntrl+Shift+S while in-game) for like 2 hours, and then played skirmish for another 3 hours and it felt like 20 minutes lol I love this game!
I wish there was a more advanced guide from somebody who knows what’s up. Like how to recon and do fleet compositions properly. Or what items to put on your capitals, starbases. What civ orbitals to build? Mines or trade stations? Something like that
I found the tech loyalist has a little wicked advantage with the orbital feature. If you're able to set up double star bases with construction bays you can dump a load of free to build units into your opponents flank. It's definitely a long play strategy though.
only thing i disagree with is letting them fight and then doing something else, that is taking away from the main difference between its competitors and that is having RTS elements where you can actually shape the outcome of the battle with micro managing troops. this is unlock its main competitors in the genre where its just a stats and numbers game since everything is ai controlled. you lose or win based on a spreadsheet. If you don't want to do all that then sure, but i wouldn't tell new players that, especially since combat is the main appeal of the game since its kingdom management is not as in depth as other games
I apprciate what you have done here, however you are going and very fast pace. For example, you recommend using the fleet menu, I think I know what that is. Anyway you go one to click on planet and say if you request ship from here, where is here? The planet or the fleet menu. If you would have slowed it down just a bit it would have been very helpful to me. Just a bit of constructive advice I really do appreciate all the information in this video.
in sins1, siege corvettes were often only usefull to dive a planet. Otherwise, the ressources and fleet cap was better spent on fighting vessels and then use capital ships to bombard planets once the battle was won.
@@johnromano5564 Well im 100% sure there will be DLC since we are missing a Capital Ship for each race from Sins 1, the ones added in I think Rebellion.
Good explanation maybe for newbies and not so fluent english speakers a bit fast otherwise top. I would say the most of the other comments and what you should do else etc. apply for people behond beginners. For beginners also the fighting comments make totally sense. If you are more than a beginner micro gets more important. But I would always say first macro and then micro.
"First macro and then micro." Great advice. This is actually true in most RTS games, including APM-heavy ones like StarCraft. Letting your macro fall just to micro harder is almost never a good idea.
I have a combat question. You bring a fleet with capital ships and smaller vessels, and battle it out with another fleet similar in size. I thought focus fire on a capital ship would be a good idea, but whenever i did it, the AI would retreat the damaged ship, before i could destroy it. Then u have the option either to pursue the ship while taking fire by the rest of the enemy fleet, or just let the damaged ship go and find a new target. Whenever I battled it out like so, I ended up loosing all my lighter ships, while the enemy was almost full stack minus one or two retreating damaged capital ships, and end up retreating myself back to base. Perhaps the best strategy is to take out the lighter craft first and then the larger ships?
I'm planning on making a more detailed fleet building & micromanagement guide but from my experience taking out the smaller ships first before ganging up on the capital ship is the way to go. If you think about it as total firepower, you're eliminating their power overtime, weakening the fleet rather than all your damage going into a ship that will never die and the rest of the fleet deals damage the whole time
@@ColonelDamneders Yes thats right. Tried it again yesterday. Made a fleet with capital ships and carriers, and supplemented it with a swarm of TEC corvetes. I explicitly threw the corvetes on the enemy's lighter ships and it worked, while dispersing fire with my capital ships. It worked alot better. Still working on it though.
They need to fix carrier units and their strike craft. The carriers want to fly into the big guns and the fighters just want to fly in circles. There's no stand off command for the carriers and you should be able to assign commands to each squadron. Its so frustrating it would almost be better if there was no strkecraft
You can try Stellaris for that. There is no total conversion, but some nice shipsets and the option to build the races. I wait for Armada 4 mod and a new Star Wars mod for the new Sins.
Hi, how does this game compare to Stellaris. I love Stellaris and playing it for many years new. But this looks also interesting. Anyone playing both and can tell the differences? Many thanks.
NOt similar at all. As a closed tester i can teell you the game is as far as it could get from the original. They are just using the name to make money.
@@pissious7289 huh? Aside from rotational planet orbits and some (honestly very cohesive and reasonable) changes to each faction, its basically the exact same game with better graphics, better stability, multi-core processing, and a less obscure dmg reduction system. What are you smoking lol?
So once you create a fleet, you can select the ship building menu when it's selected. The ships are then produced in the closes factories and will automatically regroup with the rest of your fleet.
I think it’s still 39.99 but 79.99 with the DLC they have planned and if you want the OST with a max version it’s 100 bucks but really 40 bucks is pretty nice.
$40 in USD on release as a release discount to boost sales, then the standard full price will be $50. They also sell a deluxe version which contains a pass that gives you 4 free DLCs (1 "small", 1 "medium" and 2 "expansion sized" in their own words) for an additional $40 or $50 depending on when you purchase it.
Minor factions. Either scout them or use influence to unlock. If the minor faction controlling a specific market is wiped out, that market is gone. So you could actually deliberately deny other empires metal for instance, if your metal economy is really strong.
content creators have access to a "summer preview" version of the game that is essentially the full game without a couple final tweaks, patches, or art assets.
Capital ships come from exotics. Exotics come from derelicts and refineries. I just summarized how to do it for you in two steps. The UI and Tech Tree are mostly a taste difference - I think its fine, or at least, perfectly legible.
bruh the AI art is brain rot. I saw a bent gavel, a bent drill, planets with moons so close they looked like tumors. Uncanny impossible object cringe. Hard pass.
Titan game-play in Sins:Rebellion was bad, there was a mod to remove them and the little crafts that were designed to fight against them (they never worked against titans anyways). Once Titans were gone, the game of Rebellion was actually good again, it was just like Sins 1 but more stuff, Sins 1 was good, a few hiccups on balance but Sins 1 was good, Rebellion just needed NO TITANS. I hear Titans are back and in Sins 2......I am not excited about the game. I will wait til a mod appears to remove Titans, if they didnt get them Right in Rebellion, they are not likely to get it right in Sins 2. BIGGER is not better. I have Seen this 100 times on games with trying to go bigger and more focus all powerful units. It usually does not go well. Remove the Titans and we may actually have a game here that is worth something. ONCE titans are REMOVED. Can I make my opinion that it is any clearer? basically the next best thing to removing titans, is likely to just nerf them to be just slightly stronger then two max capital ships. Still removal is the easiest fix I have seen.
I dunno, especially when going up against TEC, defenders always have an advantage when defending their space and especially in lategame, a protected system is close to impossible to take without significant effort and losses. I feel like you need a Titan class ship just for the pressure alone it provides. The fact planets can move now also gives the aggressor more option to attack. More mistakes can be made now. However, what I would like is Titans simply needing significantly more time warping into a system. A ship as strong as this should come with a warning. Vasari would be the exception there, as it would fit their theme if their titans could jump quickly while the others get like... a 10-15sec charge time and like a global warning for the defender when they jump into hostile systems. Tracking where the enemy titan is is half the battle.
If you take Titans out, you have to take Starbases out too. They wreak havoc on capital ships but take way too long to kill without them. Titans are the hard counter to Starbases. And if your enemy has a Titan roaming around and you don't have at least one Starbase in each of your high value gravity wells, you messed up.
I don't know if i can find a word which describe how much i disagree with you. My friends and i love Sins 1 especially because of Titans, and we love playing with mods where we get Titans from different universes like Star Wars or Stargate. And we are so glad to see Titans coming back to Sins 2 as well.
