SIPs Framing Update 2023 - Extreme Panel System Install w/ Will King

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Matt and Will King sit down with the Extreme Panel Technologies team to answer all your questions about Extreme SIPs. They sit down with builder and developer, Matthew Churnock to talk about speed, cost-efficiency and how Matthew has transitioned his projects. This is a real deep dive to answer all your Extreme SIPs questions - covering topics like cost and advantages of using Extreme SIPs over traditional stick framing.
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@jamiet9132 9 месяцев назад

I'd like to see a follow-up episode specifically on installing all the electrical, plumbing and HVAC. Very great system, would love to design a house specifically using your SIPS.

@thebarkingmouse 7 месяцев назад

My question exactly

@perspectivefrommarz 5 месяцев назад

Mine too. Especially plumbing

@aggiewoodie Месяц назад

@@perspectivefrommarzplumbing is all interior walls.

@navigatehousing 10 месяцев назад

Thanks, Matt and Extreme Panel, for having us on this episode!

@rushd45 9 месяцев назад

I built a 30x40 urethane SIP shop in 2004 outside Tucson AZ. It had SIP roof panels and 20x30 apron in front with roof, it took a crew of 4 guys only 2 days to set up. I put radiant heat in the floor connected to a solar heated water tank and was happy all winter long. I got a mini split AC and turned it on for about 2 hours a day in the summer. I just loved working in the shop...

@jameschupp2230 9 месяцев назад

That is Amazing!

@steveanderson4768 6 месяцев назад

That is absolutely mind blowing how fast these guys can put up the stuff the energy efficiency as a total package is mind blowing

@juliemarsh134 5 месяцев назад

Can you tell about your radiant heat system? I am very interested in how that really works. Thanks.

@66meikou 10 месяцев назад

I used to run a company back in 2008 to sell small buildings as offices etc. There were many other competitors to me but I was the only one to offer sips construction. As I was a solo operator, I didn't have a real chance to compete. I managed to sell one. As far as I know, it still standing. I was built better than the owners house as far at earthquakes go. The planners ask me for shear wall plans and I explained to them that the whole building was a shear wall. Long beach planners had never seen a sips project before. I rented a penske truck and drove the whole thin out there. May Dad tagged along for moral support. I spent 3 week busting my arse to put this thing together while my Dad enjoyed the best 3 weeks of his life. When I got it finished, I drove my dad to Huntington beach and he waded into the Pacific. That was the prize for him. Me, I was knackered. I got a rental car the next day to drive all the back to MD. The inspector came to look over my build and The building was better than the owner's house. I still have ptsd from that event. If I drive on the first road that memories appear.

@LogansRun314 10 месяцев назад

Matt, thanks for covering SIPs! Any chance you guys can cover metal/steel SIPs?

@buildshow 10 месяцев назад

Good idea! Let me work on that. Appreciate the feedback

@LogansRun314 10 месяцев назад

@@buildshow Whoa, that'd be pretty cool🙏

@magictrading8903 10 месяцев назад

@buildshow Matt come check out my build with steel sips and EAS windows going up soon in upstate ny

@timbourque5095 10 месяцев назад

@@magictrading8903 up state ? What town I lived up in Cambridge near Bennington VT side .

@imbatido 8 месяцев назад

@@magictrading8903 where in upstate NY ? I am building in Catskill. Can you post a video ?

@adubbelde1 10 месяцев назад

A friend of mine is a SIP builder. He gets his panels from Extreme which is about a 7 or 8 hour drive from the Black Hills. He does blower door tests on all his homes and He is extremely finicky about fitment and sealing. I"ve toured the Extreme panel plant and my cousin built some of the early equipment for SIP manufacturing. Next time you talk to Perry Penske or whomever you speak with, ask them about the curved roof panels they built for an architect in the Minneapolis suburbs. I've seen the house and it's damn cool. Funny, I wrote my remarks before you went to Kansas so I was a little surprised to see Perry on the jobsite. My builder friend has flown or driven to remote build sites to erect SIPS homes.

@asim172 10 месяцев назад

I am lucky enough to know your builder friend. He is building a house for me these days.

@1oldbluesheepdog 10 месяцев назад

I would really enjoy watching you and Extreme Panel Systems build a start to finish home in Texas.

@cottagekeeper 10 месяцев назад

Please show electrical, plumbing, and hvac installation with sips 😊

@HistoricHomePlans 9 месяцев назад

Matt, this was a really helpful video and I hope you do more on SIPs. I'm a residential designer and the one thing I found missing was a discussion about how to accommodate geometry that's a bit more complicated than a gabled rectangle. From a designer's perspective, I'd like to design for efficient use of SIPs but not at the expense of having to eliminate a bunch of design features such as L-shaped plans, steeper roofs, perhaps with dormers, porches, etc.

@ExtremePanelTechnologies 10 месяцев назад

Hey there! Thanks for the collaboration Build Show team! We're thrilled to have had the opportunity to answer all your questions about Extreme SIPs. We hope your viewers found the deep dive informative and helpful. If you have any more questions, feel free to ask! 🏗️🔩

@joshharper1906 10 месяцев назад

I will definitely have to check them out to get an estimate on my simple home design. Since I am hoping to do most of the work myself on 1000-1200 sqft home, this could make things alot easier on me and I won't have to plan so much for all the air sealing and structural items like hurricane ties (i'm in south GA but some of these hurricanes have made it close to us in the past few years so i would like to see a little extra strength in my home design).

@AlthofCavaliers 10 месяцев назад

It be interesting to get a video of an electric/ plumber install

@patrickgilmore9125 10 месяцев назад

indeed cavaliers! that would be great! 2 questions I have: 1. you say you can hang (almost, im sure) anything anywhere. what about those electrical & plumbing raceways...are those protected or just soo out of the way that you won't have to worry about putting a screw thru it?? & 2. i should mention i love, love the construction technique! what about damage after a fire or water . . . how easy/difficult is it to repair that? maybe go into a little detail please and thank you gents! good stuff for sure : )

@jameschupp2230 9 месяцев назад

What is the Density Per Cubic Ft. on the EPS Foam in the SIP?

@randallthomas5207 9 месяцев назад

Re Electrical: It is really fast if you make up some plywood template, and use a router with a plunge panel bit to cut the boxes in. You end up with a hole a little larger than your box, which is true and plumb, the depth of the box. Once you see it done, it is really easy.

@jaybbuilder 9 месяцев назад

How do you secure the wires if there are no studs?

@randallthomas5207 9 месяцев назад

@@jaybbuilder To the box. The code normally requires the staples because it is exposed , and they don’t want it jerked loose if something snags on it. Since it is in the chase, it can’t get snagged.

@gordonbeaulieu678 9 месяцев назад

Hope one day they take SIPs to the next level and start making ZIP-SIPs.

@mrdiz77 7 месяцев назад

Eco-Panels of Tennessee

@PeterKontor 9 месяцев назад

My 1954 house was designed by an architect, and it's the same design beams with sprayed foam ceiling with silicone coating roof. I only had to add zip r6 around the house, and energy savings are mind-blowing. It's a great design

@matt_metcalf 9 месяцев назад

It would be interesting to see ZIP sheathing on the exterior and really streamline the dry in process

@randallthomas5207 9 месяцев назад

Eco-Panel of Tennessee has the zip exterior sheathing as an option. But I haven’t found any manufacturers west of the Mississippi, and I’m in Idaho. I have a couple of the manufacturers close to me who I asked if they would do it as an option, and they aren’t interested. I’m trying to figure out a breathable self adhering membrane, I can apply on the ground…. I’m designing for a 12:12 pitch on the south facing roof to mount solar panels to, and being able to get a water barrier on it while on the ground would make life much easier.

@stevemarton5620 9 месяцев назад

@@randallthomas5207 Why not apply Delta Vent SA after it's built, the traditional way? I assume it'll go faster and be more water-tight. My plan is to wrap the whole house in that from foundation to roof ridge. I checked with the manufacturer that it can be used as the only roofing underlayment. Also, Eco-Panel does ship anywhere in the country as far as I could tell.

@randallthomas5207 9 месяцев назад

@@stevemarton5620 Shipping cost becomes quite high shipping from Tennessee to Central Idaho. And I will want to dry it in as soon as it is up. I’m going with SIPs because I can erect them with a couple of helpers. There will be a daylight basement, planning on it being ICF, with an ICF concrete ceiling which will function as the floor of the upstairs of the house. The lot has a ten foot drop over 15-ft from the upper level to where the basement will daylight. So wrapping half of the upper floor will involve erecting scaffolding. If I could rent an all terrain man lift, locally I would wrap after the SIPs are up. And with a 12:12 roof pitch for much of the south side with the basement walls and the main floor walls combining for a twenty foot drop from the roof edge, I want to have the roof deck ready to install the metal roof, with a minimum of work on e south facing roof. A 12:12 is a bit steep. The north roof is a 4:12. Lots more comfortable to work on, particularly with only a 12-ft drop on that side.

@pettydesign 8 месяцев назад

@@randallthomas5207 Are you certain on this shipping? EcoPanel of TN is actually shipping mine to New York in a few weeks. But the cost of shipping vastly beats our higher cost of labor. Plus I was interested in the ZIP.

@randallthomas5207 8 месяцев назад

@@pettydesign Haven’t gotten quotes, but Idaho, and Montana are both very non-Union, and have extremely low wages. And Tennessee is a long ways from Idaho. I will probably ask them to quote the package, and double check that though, the use of Zip Sheathing would eliminate some of the other concerns. Particularly on the roof panels.

@akalivers 10 месяцев назад

Such a great video Matt, confirms a lot about what I think and feel about SIP building. Would have liked to hear more about cost analysis. OK,10% more mats. cost, 30% less labor, but Navigate did not mention what the typical labor/materials cost mix is on stick or SIP building.

@ddmitch1 8 месяцев назад

SIPs look highly flammable. I used 5" MIPs instead (metal insulated panels) to create a fireproof home, with R42 exterior walls and roof. They are expensive though, but the savings in labor is significant. They have finished metal skins on both sides: no OBS or plywood skins, no Tyvex, no finished exterior material no interior outer wall paint. My entire structure for my 1700 sq foot home is metal. There is virtually no wood in the home. I also used MgO instead of plywood and drywall for the 1-1/4" floors and 1/2" interior walls. About $150/sq ($240,000).

@stevehoge 3 месяца назад

Rapid flame propagation across Reynobond MIPS were implicated in the disastrous 2017 Grenfell Tower fire.

@barbaraamoroso7020 Месяц назад

SIPS house was sheath with concrete board. A pain to screw through for shelving ect. But very strong. Went threw hurricane Michael and house didn’t even shudder. It was solid as a rock.

@wallyrogers2371 10 месяцев назад

I like the roofing aspect. I think it would be cool to merge ICF walls with SIPs roof. I think ICF has better natural disaster prevention, no thermal break from slab to roof, and it's a lot harder for a rodent/bugs to eat through concrete.

@DanielSwick 10 месяцев назад

Same here. I would love to see an ICF foundation and wall and then this for the roof.

@andykross7242 9 месяцев назад

I agree, ICF walls and a SIP roof with ZIP sheathing used on the outside panel.

@littled6698 5 месяцев назад

This is how I came to this video. Seems like a real good idea, if you don't want to do ICF roof pours.

@magictrading8903 10 месяцев назад

For the life of me I can’t understand why there isn’t more coverage and usage of steel sips. Totally superior in every way to even a plywood sip panel. Lighter. Stronger. Can be structural as well

@magictrading8903 10 месяцев назад

Oh and let’s talk about wood splines and spray foam between panels. Take a look at steel sip panels. Goes together with male - female connectors

@LogansRun314 10 месяцев назад

Same! I've been researching this topic for over a decade.. There are even more advantages than what you listed with steel sips over wood. Blows my freakin mind🙃

@magictrading8903 10 месяцев назад

Well I put my money where my mouth is and I’m building with steel SIPs panels. I did a ton of research and could not phantom building with formaldehyde glued particle board over foam instead….

@timbourque5095 10 месяцев назад

You make them very tight sealed around Plumbing and so on ! and sealed properly in between them then you put whatever on them rubber even whatever you want lay down two-by-fours laid flat vertical walls and roof then you can put steal whatever plywood osb again even, your doing a cold roof and the walls at the same time then vent.

@bobainsworth5057 10 месяцев назад

He didn't explain the electric or plumbing well enough. How do you fish the wire for normal outlets? Or main panels? Plumbing must be a nightmare.

@slackstation 9 месяцев назад

Matt, have watched Build show for years and years. Love to see the new set and you leveling up your youtube game. The sound on the interview though had such an echo that it was distracting. Sound treating the room would really help in getting clearer audio.

@kompanyx 10 месяцев назад

I've been waiting for a live SIP build video. I was hoping to see more install details highlighted but hopefully The Build Show will take on a SIP build and highlight the build with the various details of the panel installation but also of the electrical, plumbing, and mechanical systems being installed. Seems like this would be a great collaboration with Extreme Panel Technologies...wink, wink...

@stevemarton5620 10 месяцев назад

100% looking forward to that!

@barbaraamoroso7020 Месяц назад

I worked for SIPS team USA out of Bainbridge Georgia back in 2010. On top of over 20 years working with a conventional custom stick framing contractor/builder. If I could have any type house as my dream house a SIPS house would be my absolute first choice. On site training for construction crew was available. Totally sold on this construction.

@bobsmith1101 6 месяцев назад

The folks down in Maui need these NOW!

@na2305 3 месяца назад

Matt, please continue making long videos like this. I watch content like this as pretty much my only source of entertainment (I don't watch regular TV programming.

@DaveIngle1 6 месяцев назад

Another great video. I'm looking at "building" a 1,600 sqft ranch w/basement, retirement home in Northern Wisconsin later this year (32' x 50'). I was originally thinking about buying a modular home but you have got me questioning my thought process. Using the panels as part of the floor system wasn't even on my radar as possibility. Insulating the exterior of the foundation, adding radiant floor heat in the basement slab and garage / workshop floors. A small traditional HVAC for heating and cooling the main floor. My mind is racing right now. I would also love to hear more about the low voltage lighting that was mentioned. The ceiling lighting still seems like the biggest question mark to me. Oh, and what is the approximate lead time to get the panels made? Thanks to everyone helping with the video.

@michaelmaas5544 8 месяцев назад

I framed a timber frame home 16 years ago with a SIP skin, walls and roof. We put together a 3200 sf house in 6 weeks, it had a fairly complex roofline. I was always amazed I’ve never done another one. I was truly impressed with the product.

@-BlackBird7 10 месяцев назад

This is great, I've been waiting for something like this. I will be building in the next year or so and this is perfect. Thanks for this vid Matt!

@buildshow 10 месяцев назад

Awesome! Very welcome

@DeuceDeuceBravo 10 месяцев назад

$200/sf!! That's amazing. We're double that in New England for a very basic house. My next build in 2024 will be traditional stick built, but I'm strongly considering doing the garage with SIPs.

@charlesarmstrong3536 8 месяцев назад

Matt Risinger, I have researched SIPS panel construction pretty thoroughly. The one thing that is absolutely critical in building with SIPS is moisture control. There are documented large-scale failures of SIPS built communities in cold climates from moisture penatration into the chip board sheathing (which caused all the problems that come with sealed in moisture). The panel joints must be sealed 100%, and the exterior wrap must be vapor permeable to not trap moisture in the wooden components of the structure. I would seal the interior SIPS joints with the proper tape style system if I were in a severe winter area. I say this because in this episode, you mentioned wanting to see someone apply a liquid exterior moisture gaurd product. If someone did this with the wrong product in the wrong situation, it can be a costly mistake. Thank you, for all the good information over the last several years!

@stevehoge 3 месяца назад

The Alaska debacle was epic

@matthewlacombe2146 10 месяцев назад

We’re are using Eco-panel of Tennessee and they have been great so far. What I am struggling with is finding a HVAC person that understands SIPS.

@Blazer-fp8fo 9 месяцев назад

I have been looking at Eco-panel of Tennessee for a future build myself. I like how they already have the electrical boxes and conduit built in. Was their "kit" as complete as the one they are talking about in this video?

@FREEDOM-sd9my 5 месяцев назад

Thank you for this video. I have learned so much on SIPS.

@basiaboy 10 месяцев назад

So much for the guys narrating the wall assembly

@perspectivefrommarz 5 месяцев назад

Can’t wait for yall to build one. I’m building next year and would love to see a step by step first.

@BestRN1 10 месяцев назад

Lots of good info been excited for this episode to drop.

@theRodofwar 10 месяцев назад

GREAT VIDEO !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I would like to see more videos with this SIP SYSTEM !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

@astar2012 10 месяцев назад

Really love this video! I’m curious about metal SIP systems and how they compare. One worry I have with a SIP system is mice and bugs gaining entry over time.

@stevemarton5620 10 месяцев назад

I have that worry as well. But I'm not sure it's much worse than any other wood framing. Can you think of any reasons it would be worse? You have OSB on the outside either way, and some insulation inside of that, either batts or foam. Is styrofoam easier to burrow into than other open or closed cell foams?

@sambennett5441 9 месяцев назад

@@stevemarton5620 I believe that there are some insecticide properties mixed in with the EPS. Plus, the seal so much tighter than batt insulation.

@stevehoge 3 месяца назад

@@sambennett5441 Somewhere in there they talked about the OSB skin being treated with sodium borates for insect resistance.

@deemcclanahan 10 месяцев назад

really excellent video. long form but I watched every bit of it

@armandbarbe1812 9 месяцев назад

How is it made hurricane proof? Hurricane strips, or is there something built into the walls and roof panels that is equally strong?

@jamesmoon1841 9 месяцев назад

Built a SIP home for a customer over 20 years ago. 2700 sq ft house put up by panel fabricator crew of three in five and a half days. The half day was spent foam sealing the roof panel joints. Funny experience with customer and energy usage. The customer built a fire in his new fire place the first night he was in house. He forgot to close the fire place damper after his first fire. Many weeks later he realized he was using more fuel oil than expected. Several weeks later he recalled opening the damper and checked to see if he had closed it. He found it open, closed it and literally quit using fuel oil.

@geralda2282 10 месяцев назад

Hi Matt, not sure how to contact you lol. I would love to see your input and ideas on log home air barrier techniques and other details such as wiring, plumbing and so on. Love your channel by the way ! Oh, also I’m in Canada and would love to see some more of your northern climate videos :) thanks for all the Great tips.

@Ed-jg3ud 10 месяцев назад

I’d like to see Build show interview a high end builder that uses SIPS, seems like a lot of SIP construction is in relatively simple architecture, not complicated high end custom architecture homes

@buildshow 10 месяцев назад

Great point. I’ve done three SIPs homes and they have been more simple forms/architecture but definitely were high end builds. Simplify the plans for best SIPs use

@Vipe694 10 месяцев назад

I'm one of the draftsman for Extreme and believe me we have done some ridiculously complicated buildings. We've even done some geodesic domes.

@nathanhoekstra6321 10 месяцев назад

I’m a builder with extreme panel. A simple plan can help keep the cost down in the panel package. Anything that can be stick framed can be done with SIPS.

@Ed-jg3ud 10 месяцев назад

@@nathanhoekstra6321 just saying I’d like to have seen a complex elaborate home design in this video. Don’t think I’ve ever seen a SIP build that was elaborate and complex architecturally speaking. Not saying you can’t do them, but there’s clearly a reason why most people avoid sips in architecturally, elaborate, and complex designs. Would have liked to see some commentary in the discussion about why this is; otherwise I thought the video was very fair and balanced regarding pros of sips and misconceptions of its weaknesses.

@stevehoge 3 месяца назад

@@Ed-jg3ud Yes it seems like implementing complicated geometry would be easier to factory fabricate with automated precision cutting than leaving it to framers who have to measure every stick.

@patricktrout9037 9 месяцев назад

Now that you have done the deep dive, I would like to see a comparison between different manufactures. I assume that the R value, strength are comparable but what other little features set the different manufactures apart.

@jimschmitz6192 9 месяцев назад

There’s a panel manufacturer here in Central Missouri that builds the panels and runs metal conduit, places the boxes for outlets, switches and lights, etc. inside the panel. Then they spray foam the panel.

@gulabsamtani1603 10 месяцев назад

Great job Matt. Will meet you one day

@duggydo 8 месяцев назад

I would mount electrical all on the surface similar to how you would in a shop. I like the look and it's super easy to access if you need to later on. I would order without the channels in the foam.

@oneworldsteve8433 9 месяцев назад

Very informative. Misses and I are about to begin construction in Nova Scotia, Canada eh. When you mention products on your show would you be so kind as to ask your suppliers about outlets on the east coast of that huge country on top of the USA (LOL). Truly appreciate your show and all the other trades for sharing their experience.

@SniperDude-24 10 месяцев назад

I wonder if this would be possible with hemp instead of foam to help increase the environmental factor. Id honestly love a SIP house with an ICF basement.

@dewholdingsllc1050 10 месяцев назад

Nice content. Maybe not new technology as you mentioned but improved methods to utilizing it. Gives me ideas.

@joshuaolson5265 10 месяцев назад

Please schedule/plan a video about the Hercuwall wall assembly. It's manufactured in Arizona and has steel studs, poured concrete between insulation panels.

@williamhanna5224 9 месяцев назад

Excellent !

@laloajuria4678 10 месяцев назад

22:51 that man had me at 0.2, 0.3........

@kululv 4 месяца назад

this was a very interesting show. Unfortunately you did not cover a few things i was hoping for. one was of course the detail between wall and roof. It looks like that is a big thermo bridge and also a possible air leak. The other was a lost opportunity with Matt. He explained that he buillt 2 SIPS houses and an identical stick house. Unfortunately he did not make a cost comparison between the 2 system. And he clearly said that was the purpose of using both techniques.

@stevemarton5620 10 месяцев назад

Matt, you really do need to build a SIPs house soon! It's too late for me, I'm jumping in, with a decent SIPs company, but I hope there are not many pitfalls and costs that are not advertised and I haven't been able to sniff out. Or long term durability issues. Sure, electrical and plumbing are different, but we know the solutions there. I wonder if there are hidden pitfalls no one talks about which makes it less of a no-brainer. Really looking forward to you building one and giving an honest review of the pros, cons, and realistic costs involved. Because the package itself is not that expensive, especially on an expensive house.

@sambennett5441 9 месяцев назад

We did a SIP addition from Extreme Panel. I did everything myself and it was a timber frame with a SIP shell. I can't overstate how down right impressed I was. I did stick frame the floor for plumbing purposes. I could see an argument either way on the floor. They didn't mention it here but at the Extreme Summit in Cottonwood, MN Josh was nice enough to invite us on a house tour and we got to see his SIP basement. If I was doing new construction that is probably the way I would go. But to speak on the readiness, professionalism, and quality, working with Extreme was top notch.

@michaeldeighan8294 9 месяцев назад

Awesome show! I’ve had the exact questions in my head for a while. Definitely building my forever home like this.

@TundeEszlari 10 месяцев назад

Brilliant video.

@buildshow 10 месяцев назад

Glad you enjoyed it

@joecox9958 6 месяцев назад

Matt, thanks for introduce us the SIP. I am looking for a better roof insulation yet first time know SIP. Would you mind to add installation details? 1) Screws only tight to bottom OSB, will the foam shifts so top/bottom OSB seperate? 2)how to add gutters? 3)how to fill ridge and board connection? 4)any suppplier for bay area CA?

@wut6113 10 месяцев назад

been following your content for a good while now and appreciate all of the information you make consumable for those not in the trades. what are your thoughts on sheetrock alternatives like plastermax?

@proprimos1598 6 месяцев назад

I would have liked to see details on how the roof panels attach to the walls. How would this work for a metal roof? Will panels come with 3/4” plywood?

@sladeoriginal 9 месяцев назад

I'm really interested in these for my own house. looks good and fast.....so saving the builder time never means savings for the customer.

@sevilnatas 9 месяцев назад

Seems like the combo of the 3D printed shell, with SIP roofs would be a winning combination.

@BruceKing-gq6rd 9 месяцев назад

So you said no Thermal bridging but what about your headers (both the top plates and the headers for doors and windows)? Realize it cuts out 90% of the thermal bridges, would be nice to maybe see in the future a mock-wood foam surround for all the header locations. Second thought, the house you show is very simple construction with a straight wall and single layer roof, so the easiest of homes to build. What about more complex structures, does Extreme do those as well (like other SIP panel makers do)? And when you get inside to the lam beams, would you explain how those get installed (are there precut notches for them? are they glued or screwed or what is the method of affixing them)? And then inside if you want a modified ceiling, like tray or coffered, beamed or vaulted, do you simply attach 2x4s to the osb (screw penetration lengths?)? Thanks

@stevehoge 3 месяца назад

A rep from Extreme Panel mentioned in the comments that they've done geometry as complex as geodesic domes.

@pmur079 9 месяцев назад

Awesome video. Why don’t they make their panels with Zip exterior…

@rogerhodges7656 10 месяцев назад

This has been the next big thing since the 1970's. I haven't seen them gain traction in all this time.

@koenraadprincen7212 9 месяцев назад

Probably because SIP-houses are very difficult to rebuild and have a very lousy sound insulation.

@krogg5868 10 месяцев назад

The metal installation screws cause a surprising amount of thermal bridging on the roof. Hopefully progress is made on some of the newer materials (basalt based stuff, etc.) that will eventually replace the metal. Good but could be better.

@davidcassidy5512 10 месяцев назад

Yes, this is my understanding. So I’m thinking why not a frame with the SIPs fastened from the interior? (In search for a better envelope). Easier to wire… yup it would cost more but. Feel free to rain on my idea 😂. I built a house, made a lot of mistakes and I’m looking to avoid a repeat.

@drumswest5035 9 месяцев назад

It would be interesting to see how these panels perform in a seismic zone for lateral movement, didn't see any real anchorage to the foundations or hold downs. Lag bolting through the osb at the bottom to the sill plate seems questionable. I also wonder what the time frame to build the panels in the factory is, this needs to be taken into account for construction time too.

@djurist 7 дней назад

Plumbing is where the rubber hits the road. Need to put some thought into drains, vents and piping. Interior walls or furred out on exterior walls.

@ryancampbell9425 9 месяцев назад

The thermal bridging at the top plate is a huge oversight in this design. Otherwise the panels themselves look great.

@stevehoge 3 месяца назад

And I didn't see any slab edge insulation either...

@NicolaasBurgers 4 месяца назад

As far as I understand the foam in SIPS panels is petroleum-based and doesn't decompose, which would be the deal-breaker for many people and possibly some jurisdictions in the coming years as they try to make construction a bit more environmentally-friendly. I remember a whole movement to rid society of polystyrene food containers (at least here in Australia). If it a bio-degradable alternative material could be used, then SIPS would be awesome.

@sladeoriginal 9 месяцев назад

from a drywall perspective, one awesome thing is there is not stud crown and don't have to worry about landing drywall edges on studs.

@proprimos1598 6 месяцев назад

I would add the extra 6-1/2” to the perimeter of the slab and build a 2x4 wall in the inside of it all. That would give you easy access for electrical and plumbing. I don’t like that you are depending on just 1-1/2” of osb to hold down the walls to the slab.

@coolestrock2008 9 месяцев назад

AM i missing something? The continuous inch of solid wood at the bottom and roof are the points with the weakest cross sectional 'R' value. I am assuming that there is no further 'exterior insulation. In that case wont this be worse that having solid wood studs + exterior zip 9 system ? what are the pros for extreme SIP in terms of performance compared to say a zip 9 exterior insulation

@billvojtech5686 10 месяцев назад

Why not coat the outside panel like a Zip sheathing panel? Or use a roll on liquid WRB?

@kadmow 9 месяцев назад

- SIPS is a system (Typically the second S) of Insulated Panels forming the Structure of the entire building... (The system part matters most) As (I think the questioner means) asked below, is there a SIP manufacturer where the external sheathing has pressure activated adhesive backed building wrap preinstalled?? (we don't need Huber branding per-se). Add solar to the roof and the build easily approaches some energy parity over an expected sub-unit lifetime.

@pappafritto 4 месяца назад

A great video

@Lilmiket1000 5 месяцев назад

It would be nice to take a normal stick frame house and add a second story using the sips panel for the walls and roof. It would make adding a second story much more effortless and hopefully lower the cost as well.

@bilbowoodshop 2 месяца назад

There is a thermal bridge between the top of the wall and the bottom of the roof. That triangle needs some insulation.

@sladeoriginal 9 месяцев назад

would be awesome for Extreme Panel to offer a WRB adhered to the external OSB from the factory.

@stevehoge 3 месяца назад

@sladeoriginal And they ought to install those splines into at least one panel edge at the factory as well instead of delivering them loose, would save half the labor on the onsite adhesive application.

@JamesSmith-wh4xe 10 месяцев назад

I’m curious if you couldn’t use Zip Board for the exterior skin and forego the wrap. Reading another comment has me curious about curved panels. I’m really getting excited about this product. Thanks guys!

@briansavery 10 месяцев назад

There are some manufacturers that use this "Eco Panels" is one.

@Blazer-fp8fo 9 месяцев назад

I don't know if the company in the video does (I don't see why they wouldn't), but other companies do offer Zip for the outer sheeting.

@wingslevel 8 месяцев назад

Check out the Greenstone Ice Panels. They are made to fit for any building including multi-storey apt buildings. No waste in manufacturing and fully recyclable.

@wildtwindad 10 месяцев назад

Would love to see Matt do a deep dive in Ted Benson and where his company is at now

@brik2716 Месяц назад

Did I miss it in the video, was there a discussion about fire rating and wind shear. How would this withstand high winds compared to a stick home build?

@zobenn2833 3 месяца назад

Could please talk about using SIPS with basement foundation.

@kevinstenger4334 10 месяцев назад

I was waiting to hear about termites and SIPs. I planned for a long time to build a SIP house but after retiring ended up with a spec house in The Chattanooga area. My builder was above average for the area but since the vast majority of people working in construction in this area are illegal immigrants 1970’s technology is cutting edge for them. People from Guatemala just can’t wrap their head around energy efficiency and our inspectors really just don’t care, my friend that’s a builder here has to show the inspectors things that are wrong and ask them to fail the inspection so they can force the subs to fix it.

@mefobills279 9 месяцев назад

Illegal immigration also short circuits the generational learning cycle. Historic Americans are cut out of apprentice work by low wage illegal labor.

@ParkourHiggiE 10 месяцев назад

I'd like to know the details for what the finish surface options are for the interior. Really, any surface could be attached to the interiar.

@sladeoriginal 9 месяцев назад

educating the subs is important. sure hope their training teams speaks spanish.

@dewholdingsllc1050 10 месяцев назад

It would be interesting to see a side by side comparison between a BFS ready frame building and an identical extreme sip building.

@stevehoge 3 месяца назад

What is BFS?

@JustStuffAndThings 8 месяцев назад

How to you add reinforced areas for, lets say, toilet & shower grab bars, wide curain rods ect...? Is that done when they are manufactured?

@lukashattingh7238 9 месяцев назад

Cool!

@ritste1654 10 месяцев назад

I could not find any info on wind ratings. Growing up in Florida, we worry about Hurricanes in construction. I heard you are traveling to Mississippi to build on the coast, but many of the houses I see built in Mississippi don't have the same wind codes Florida uses. I like ICF but the cost is limiting, but a Hurricane not destroy it. At the end you were talking of building one of these. If at all possible, I would love to see two homes built, near each other (same codes) one with SIPS and the other traditional. If the two homes were the same floor plans, you could compare apple to oranges for a real comparison. Maybe we as a community could team up with a charity like folds of honor to build two homes for them. The other advantage of this system I did not see mentioned, is the labor shortages. This faster build time would make a big difference on the shortage of help.

@jameslange6928 9 месяцев назад

I am in Chicago were you have to use conduit for your electrical, how do you do that in sips panel's

@walthanek6502 4 месяца назад

What is the fire rating? How can different heat (electric, wood, gas) / air conditioning /heated flooring be used and installed all the systems have different requirements for ducting and air exchange? Does all this come as part of the purchase?

@dagnabit29 Месяц назад

I would love to know what info or study’s have been done on off gassing of all these products

@andyivancic 9 месяцев назад

I’d be curious to find out if people with chemical sensitivity would fine it tolerable with envelope off-gassing?

@getyourbone 9 месяцев назад

So can/should a spray on vapor barrier be applied prior to or after erected? …think prosoco? Or similar…?

@robertduffy5805 3 месяца назад

I wonder if they could cut a licensing deal with Zip or another system to use for the exterior instead of untreated OSB. That would really cut down on the concerns with OSB.

@mylifeintexas 10 месяцев назад

Hey Matt, where can we buy your Build shirts? I didn’t realize that you had fitted T’s. I want one now more than ever 😆

@jamesjensen5000 5 месяцев назад

My son built and lives in a sips house in St. Paul Minnesota in a historic district.

@MarkGregg89 10 месяцев назад

Besides the obvious detriment to the environment of toxic foam, how do you get the structural hold down integrity?

@pcatful 9 месяцев назад

We had a cottage built like this years ago and see very few buildings using this since. Why, if it seems so good, is it so little used? The building definitely went up very fast.