Sire P7 Fretless 4 String Bass - The Player's Fretless Bass - LowEndLobster Review

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Hey everyone! Today we're going to be reviewing the Sire P7 Fretless Alder 4 String Bass. We've looked at many Sire instruments, but one bass we haven't checked out was the P7. I had a tough time deciding WHICH P7 to review, and I'm very happy I chose the fretless 4 string. The P7 Fretless is absolutely one of the most flexible fretless instruments you can get at the sub $1000 price point. Let's check it out!
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@RobVespa 4 месяца назад

This is one of my favorite sounding basses you've highlighted on the channel. I was a bit surprised that you "only" gave it 4 claws. Thanks for the commentary and playing. All the best!

@jonathanchevallier7046 Год назад

Nice review. Thank Lobster, this bass is a great value for the money I think.

@earlbrackett6508 Год назад

superb demo...I loves that punchy upright sound...

@k0brakai Год назад

Nice review !! Just purchased a fretless JB V7 and it it sounds absolutely awesome. I needed a not too expensive but good fretless and this Sire ticks all the boxes

@patrick-verheij Год назад

A great review once again, oh Mighty Lobster! It is amazing how affordable this bass is. No need to spend majestic amounts of cash on a great bass.

@Invictus13666 Год назад

I really enjoyed how much fun you were having with this beast. It made my heart happy to see you actually giggling. Thanks. And your playing really comes alive fretless too!

@godsinbox Год назад

you would be giggling too if you were wearing your pajamas, making videos for your only fans

@gatoyt3619 Год назад

I used to own this bass and i regret selling it. I am looking forward to buy the 5string fretted version because i really loved the PJ combination, its like having 2 basses in one. Keep up the good work and greetings from Greece!

@rodneyfritz3461 Год назад

I am so glad you finally got around to the P7. It was my first Sire, a 1st gen 4 string. I sold that to buy a 2nd gen 5-string. I couldn't agree more with your assessment of the build quality. It is top notch top to bottom (especially since I swapped out the tuners to Hipshot Ultra-lites). I nicknamed it Dowsky. My 5-string M5 is nicknamed Dera. Both inspired by your review comparisons. The 5-string P7 neck is super smooth satin, but a little thicker than the M5 and only 34" scale. However, the B string is killer on the P7. The 5-string tree at the neck and thru body stringing make it sustain for days. And the tonal flexibility is phenomenal (as you have demonstrated). The binding on the neck is beautiful and nice added touch. The noiseless J (Mwah!). It is a work of art.

@marlen2801 Год назад

Beautiful and sounds amazing...and looking that, the tone knop in this preamp make a good function in all positions..great Sire and great Lobster 🤗🤗

@markblackstad8705 Год назад

Great review (as usual) Lobster! That bass sure has a lot going on tonally, almost overwhelming, with P and J, active/passive and all the possible pre-amp permutations. I never really thought much about a fretless P tone but it really sounded cool. I'm still working on my fretless chops (which were at zero a couple months ago) with my HB JB-40FL. That sure is a fun instrument. I do miss Dale on your channel though. I say bring back "Transcription Tuesday"! Maybe a fretless project with this bass??!

@dramado Год назад

Love the bass face at 11:58! I have a Sire V5 fretless and that thing is an absolute beast! Great video again, Lobster!

@JoseAv-tx4yl 3 дня назад

Im getting mine this week, v5 24 frets, 5 strings in Dakota red 😮🫠

@poochiecheeks627 Год назад

Very cool bass and great review as always, though I wish they would make unlined versions of these as well

@faustinogarciabassplayer3174 Год назад

Very nice fretless playing there. Great intonation.

@mark-onthedl3890 Год назад

Great Review! I have a Sire v7 Fretless. Fantastic instrument! But realized I had to make 2 mods after taking it to my first gig. 1) the position markers on the side of the neck were impossible to see in a low light room. Fixed it by adding small strips of reflective tape. 2) The single coils were noisy when soloed. Swapped out the stock pickups with noiseless Aguileras. Def a keeper now.

@bassimprovjams3772 Год назад

They make some of the best fretless basses out there especially for the price, I love all the options they give you on the preamp they literally give you just about every option that’s out there

@iAutodidact Год назад

Every now and then I check for more reviews for this bass so I can eventually convince the wife that I *need* one. Nice to come across a 27-minute upload from LEL! I was hoping you’d get around to it :)

@LowEndLobster Год назад

Thank you and enjoy :)

@averagetim6190 Год назад

That's the most fretless sounding fretless I've ever heard

@davejones7475 Год назад

You nailed that A.T. Funny as your comment caught my attention, and then I knew in the first Note you were right on. So thank you from a completely different brother from a different mother

@jugglerj0e Год назад

No! The most fretless sounding fretless you've heard is an upright bass because they don't come with frets. Lol

@JoseAv-tx4yl 3 дня назад

@@jugglerj0e🦧

@sr80bassguy Год назад

My P7 has absolutely always been my favorite sire bass since it came out and definitely an everyday go to for me.

@dancassidy7471 8 месяцев назад

❤ wish I could say the same . My p7 is a 5 string neck diver weighing in at 9.6 lbs

@ewetoo Год назад

I've been waiting for you to do this one, now do the 5er hahaha! Very impressed with the passive sound, this is a lot like the Yamaha basses in that respect, they hold up well.

@PhullyNo1 Год назад

Sire is such a good value, I wish I ran into more of their product line in the wild.

@erollf1972 Год назад

Very nice. My first bass was a fretless Fender p bass with an epoxy coated fingerboard (still have it). I recently aquired an Ernie Ball big Al fretless that has had some sort of finish added to it. The pickups were replaced with custum Nordstrand big blade warm and wooly. Both of my basses were customized with the finish, so it is nice to see that Sire does this standard on their fretless instruments.

@LowEndLobster Год назад

Hell yeah! I've seen pics of that build, most excellent!

@erollf1972 Год назад

@LowEndLobster Only problem with it is the nut is a bit low. Open strings buzz across all 4 strings and the G chokes out compared to the rest of the bass. I do love the sound and feel though.

@sebastiancabrol2014 Год назад

Looks killer and sounds great, even with flatwounds. Amazing bass.

@richardkrainak2106 Год назад

With flat wounds? What would you use??

@sebastiancabrol2014 Год назад

@@richardkrainak2106 roundwounds, as usual. it sounds better, even ruining the fretboard.

@michelecrescenzo6547 Год назад

Hi, just for the sake of talking, there are basses from Eko, a very known Italian brand, for your cheap bass reviews; for what concerns the video, I quite like the way you review the instruments, even as far as the transparency with which you talk; this is a great bass and a great sounding instrument

@rqkeating Год назад

At 16:40 the bass really started to sound more like an upright bass with a pickup. Nice to find that tone mixed in with all the others.

@ramshaar2597 Год назад

Just sound real good!

@pwokaren Год назад

These Sires are great. They offer better much better value and tones than other Basses that even cost a lot more. Looking forward to seeing another Sandberg on the channel (hopefully 😉). 🦞 ⭐️💯 📺 🇦🇺

@davejones7475 Год назад

He's having a Ton O Fun. I tip my hat 🤠

@eskilseter Год назад

I have a P5 5-string fretless; such a great bass. And the P thing really sets it apart from the typical (dare I say overused?) J and Ray fretless tones, which really inspires a different approach.

@SplitHairz 9 месяцев назад

Can you explain your interpretation of the p5 vs p7 tone in passive mode?

@eskilseter 9 месяцев назад

@@SplitHairzI haven't tested the P7 (or any active Sires), so I can't comment on that

@aminahmed2220 Год назад

The video is fantastic

@Chris-uu7oz Год назад

I have the V9 fretless and indeed the knobs feel and are cheap. I swapped them with black metallic ones. This was the only thing I didn't like. Other than that it is a great bass. Great review!

@michaelblaney4461 Год назад

Cool bass great fretless P bass tone.

@frodo911 Год назад

Hi Lobster, great and enthuaiastic video - I am intrigued by this video to pull the trigger on Sire P7 fretless (5 string). Would you choose it over Sadowsky RSD MetroExpress Hybrid PJ Fretless or not?

@pjmuck Год назад

Great thorough review as always. Personal preference, but I've never cared for the PJ combo in general (unless the P pickup is reversed). You always think you're getting a J and a P in theory, but in combo I just don't care for the tone compared to a JJ, for example. (especially when slapping). But there's no question Sire's delivering the best bang for the buck out there.

@joethebar1 Год назад

The PJ sound is perfect for a pick or to get close to an upright with foam mutes. All the tones in a PJ are useful for me

@kevin.caudle2185 Год назад

Yeah that's a bass lobster the tone is beautiful

@migodrums957 Месяц назад

I watched your Sire V5 fretless review looking for my first fretless and you had totally convinced me. Then I saw this one and... You totally convinced me again! So what now? I never owned a P-bass and I like the neck on this one a lot so I am very intrigued, but the V5 is passive (which I prefer) and costs a little less... I need help here 🤣 PS your reviews are awesome!

@alanhearne6733 Год назад

Don't you mean "Jaco" of all trades? Great bass and great review

@sergiocolmenares9482 Год назад

13:19 what an eastern egg. Such beautiful melody

@Bassdriver Год назад

I'd prefer roundwounds but overall a sweet bass! I'd wanted a fretless PJ for a long time - for 2 separate pickup tones (I don't really dig P and J together, and in a fretless bass I prefer soloing one of the pickups anyway). I might think of one of those some time in the future :-)

@johngeddes7894 Год назад

What I notice is that we are given a limited demo of pickup tone. By making the right hand more mobile, we could get a full range sample of the basses to be played. That means plucking not only at the bridge, but from the bridge to the neck. If you want to play like a pro, that’s one way. This is just an option. I won’t lose any sleep over it, but just sayin’ it would be nice to get some nuance from these reviews; as it means adjusting how hard you pluck moving toward the fretboard. It would also facilitate a little more speed effortlessly, , lightening the attack toward the headstock, as opposed to struggling when trying to get jiggy when the occasion calls for it. Not that anything’s bad. I’m always looking where my own playing could be better; mostly any direction I turn.

@groseromedia Год назад

That sounds very classy & sassy 🐱 ... Beautiful too 😍

@TheDarkKnight73 Год назад

Nice one

@kuslers Год назад

I wonder if it can be had as a passive???Also like my Modern Player Plus Precision can it be played with the batteries out of it.I hate unplugging between sets.

@georgeraindog 6 месяцев назад

I would love to see a review of Cort B4FL MHPZ fretless

@Mr.Goldbar Год назад

I absolutely dislike PJ on fretted basses, but it sounds just godly on a fretless bass! I'm a guitar playing imposter but I'd love to have a P7 5 string fretless :)

@PowaInTheDungeon Год назад

I was wondering if you ever had a chance to try the ibanez ehb1265 ms, and if so, what are your thoughts on it, is it that similar to the ehb1005?

@leesbassment6393 Год назад

I'd like to see how the finish on the fingerboard handles roundwound strings. Chromes are pretty bright for flats, but still lack the zing and growl of rounds.

@lummond Год назад

Tony Franklin uses DR Sunbeams which are quite gentle as far as roundwound strings go. I use them for fretless too and theyre great. But on a poly finished ebony fingerboard, you could probably go full rotosound

@tonyaccouche9807 Год назад

Hi Lobster, I need your HELP. The active/passive switch on my sire m5 is broken. How can I connect the wires to by-pass the switch so I can play only in active? Your help will be much appreciated. Thanks

@ilbassodellamorte2563 Год назад

Not a fan of active electronics or flats but, damn(!), that sounds great.

@cliffords2315 Год назад

would love to hear that through an old Acoustic 360, those amps seem made for a fretless.

@tonycarel1785 Год назад

Well done review. I want one now. Have two question who makes the multi-scale bass behind you?what the difference between the M5 and the M7 looking at buying one of them. Thanks in advance

@LowEndLobster Год назад

Dingwall NG3 and M7 review coming next weekend :)

@tonycarel1785 Год назад

@@LowEndLobster thank you!! For your response. Can't wait to see the review. I was sounding if I could suggest something. rarely does anyone talk about neck dive whether a bass has some, None, or a lot? I just believe that it's a consideration when players are looking at buying a new bass. What do you think? is something that you could add or talk about in your reviews?

@oldasrocks9121 Год назад

So when you mod this one put a set of Klein's '62s in it please! Please please!

@EvertAlbers 6 месяцев назад

How would you compare it to your Fender TF sig?

@HapyLLIuTeJIb Год назад

I guess the switch on the preamp is the active-passive switch rather than frequency selector. and the mid-frequency is selected by stacked knob at mid-eq location. Also interesting that the P5 has a roasted maple neck, while the P7 doesn't..

@LowEndLobster Год назад

Correct. I should have chose my words better and said it was a mid sweep instead of selector.

@Ronofthedead07 Год назад

The P7 is one of their original models, so it came out before they started doing the roasted necks. The P5 is a newer model (2020 I believe). The swamp ash P7 has been discontinued and succeeded by the P8, which does have a roasted neck. :) Personally I wish the P5 had a PJ configuration, but oh well…

@HapyLLIuTeJIb Год назад

@@Ronofthedead07 they might have another P-number free for that :) I like a P-bass just with a P pickup.

@time.5316 Год назад

I have one of these and I think Lobster is mostly spot-on with his evaluation. I'd disagree a bit about the neck dive however - it isn't so much that it can't be offset by proper choice of strap. I use a leather strap that has a "rough" side with a lot of friction. Also, he suggests offhand at the end of the review that he'd like to see more fretless Sire basses, and I think he probably ought not to hold his breath waiting. I had a fretless U5 on preorder and after waiting six months with no show I gave up and cancelled the order. I'd really prefer a medium scale with PJ pickups and a passive circuit, but not much hope I'll ever see one.

@lummond Год назад

Re: the friction strap back thing, you can't defeat physics. If you get a grippy strap, besides your shirt bunching up all the time, you're just going to have the headstock swing farther to the left and have the bridge side of the bass stick out forward. I tried this with the most extreme example of them all, the Warwick Thumb 5 string, and the headstock would almost be behind my left shoulder if I didn't hold the bass still.

@time.5316 Год назад

@@lummond That hasn't been my experience with my shoulder strap, but YMMV. Funny you should mention physics, though, because you can put physics to your advantage to counter-act a diving neck by just moving the back-end strap pin up and forward a bit so your shoulder fulcrum for your strap is farther forward wrt to the bass center of gravity. I've also countered neck-diving by gluing fishing weights in the control cavity, but that's only if there's room and your bass has a fairly light body to start with.

@lummond Год назад

@@time.5316 Oh at one point I even resorted to tucking a hammer between the strap button and the strap! On an older 22 fret American Deluxe Fender Jazz V, I ended up installing the Dunlop dual function strap lock/strap button on the horn and the Dunlop flushmount countersunk strap lock at the butt end. It basically shifted the entire bass an inch to the left (lengthening the horn and making the strap flush with the butt end), which helped too!

@willardtweedy1572 Год назад

Is the mid frequency selector knob notched for the different settings or do you have to go by feel?

@LowEndLobster Год назад

Great question! No notches, you have to go by feel. I believe there's a detent but that's it

@willardtweedy1572 Год назад

@@LowEndLobster I see. That's a little bit of a letdown for me personally but thank you for the answer Lobster!

@handybunny Год назад

If you had to pick between the fretless V5 stock or the fretless P7 stock … which would you choose?

@LowEndLobster Год назад

Oof, if it were my only bass then probably the P7

@revlewisrees9880 Год назад

Very Pino Palladino sounding.

@NC-cf7kl Месяц назад

Please review the Ibanez Acoustic Fretless that is about $500 USD.

@bjamminsincebirth3494 Год назад

Do you think this one is better than the Squier Fretless Bass?

@LowEndLobster Год назад

Yes

@eveidam Год назад

Hi, what's the type of the neck shape? Is it a P shape or... ? Tnx

@LowEndLobster Год назад

J shape

@paulhamer7431 Год назад

Its alright

@michaelx5093 10 месяцев назад

This or the M5/M7?

@michaelb.42112 Год назад

SIRE is the best company to come around since USA Peavey, in my opinion. It seems that for the most part, SIRE can't make a bad bass.

@LowEndLobster Год назад

I think that their greatest strength is listening, which allows them to pivot and make adjustments to meet the needs of players. Because of this, they have basses at all tiers that compete with the biggest names.

@Alfura11 Год назад

I bet this things sounds great with rounds.

@50beowulf Год назад

Poor man's Fender Tony Franklin fretless? That's a comparison I would loce tonsee. The TF signature is probably the best bass fender currently offers.

@Shwarzencofmenmozer Год назад

Hmm maybe next bass for me…

@michaelblaney4461 Год назад

You could have waited a bit and bought a P8 and V8 with a new Fender like high mass bridge and Roasted Maple neck at about $30 - $40 more then the older model ( a way to make the old models instantly worth less on resale😤😵😕😪)

@LowEndLobster Год назад

You don't think I have a slew of new Sire basses en route ;P?

@michaelblaney4461 Год назад

Yeah I figured your up to Something 😏

@michaelblaney4461 Год назад

I still have a v7 ash 1st generation ( not getting rid of it)😊

@erikavery8569 Год назад

I’d get it… if it were passive. Otherwise, nice bass.

@wren23_bass-synths Год назад

Really nice tones from this bass, I wish they made a P5 fretless. I do prefer passive electronics but I can see if you have one bass this can work for you. Excellent review Lobster 🦞

@LowEndLobster Год назад

They make a P5 fretless. You can order all their models in fretless from what I understand.

@wren23_bass-synths Год назад

@@LowEndLobster cool. I’ll check their website out.

@braddietzmusic2429 Год назад

It’s 98% great. But those lined fretless fretboard markers (which I can’t fix) and flatwounds (which I can fix)… Those are just not my thing.

@lummond Год назад

A set of Dr Sun Beams on that thing and it will sing

@eljapel Год назад

someone has been playing zelda lately?

@George-kx6ej 8 месяцев назад

It sounds awesome,but i will never buy it, because i hate when someone steals "know how". Leo Fender invented jazz bass and if i don't want to pay for it, because it is too expensive i will buy cheaper version of Squire by Fender . What i like in american culture is that they are pioneers and what i dislike in Chinese culture is low quality copy/paste .Even if it is not low quality it's still stolen..I respect Marcus Miller and his music.I think musicians like him must be paid , because of making bass guitars popular,but that is not the right way...