Wavesfactory ImpromptEQ (a portmanteau play of words on "impromptu eq") Wavesfactory DynRecalibrator (" " " " " on "dynamic eq auto recalibrator") Wavesfactory Adhoc as a third option.
The dev answered the pink noise question at Gearspace, quote: "To elaborate, the plugin doesn't strive to mimic a predetermined curve. The algorithm, a product of my own design, calculates the gain to apply to each band in reference to itself; it doesn't rely on any external reference"
Which is funny because The Mars Citizen (which helped in the development of the plugin) said on his channel that the tilt knob goes from pink noise to brown noise as a target
@josealbertoum5149 to add more to the confusion: the developer also mentions in that gearspace thread that the plugin was not developed to use pink noise but the plugin seems to favor adjustments which resemble pink noise 😅
The good thing about Wavesfactory is that the developer listens to the community. Subsequently, they update their plugins based on feedback. Its good to get in on their plugins early with the intro prices.
I downloaded a trial version and applied it to several already mixed tracks. I particularly focussed on strummed acoustic steel string guitars that I had trouble sitting properly in the mix and vocals. I was very surprised with the results. They were subtle but perfect. It took me little tweaking to get the exact result I was seeking. Very impressive. I also Use Gullfoss, Soothe2, Reso and Smooth Operator. This is different to me. Very nice. I will be purchasing it.
I want moar of these, not those lazy analog emulations bs Analog Emus are not bad but they bring nothing more to the table :v If they want to do analog emu plugins just add a twist to it like how Arturia or SSL do it
Looks quite useful. I really like that you can draw in your own curve. I'll watch your reviews of the comparable plug-ins to see how they measure up. Thanks!
I like simple solutions like Reso and Smooth Operator so i immediately bought this one today. And its great. Stuff like Soothe2 or Gulfoss i find overpriced and stuff like Teote and DSEQ3 i find too complicated. So Equalizer is just right!
The 'eq drawing' bit is, as far as I can tell, like a multi-band version of the intensity knob, allowing you to control how much processing is done per band. The wet/dry mix is interesting too, allowing for something akin to parallel compression. I'm impressed that this plugin is looking to do something different, and by the fact that it isn't an automated, machine-learning, fix-it-for-you device. It does something - the equalising, based on the source signal (not pink noise, apparently) - that the user cannot; but then the user controls how that is deployed in considerable detail. As your spitting vocal example shows, though, it has to be used carefully and could make things worse. So, the usual rule applies: never put on a plugin except to achieve a specific objective (excepting playtime and learning/practice). Of course, I break that rule all the time; but I'm an eejit, as well as a beginner!
Yeah EQ drawing is sort of a sidechain filter, sensitivity dial or alike which you have in for instance soothe 2. Yeah it's not pink noise, but something alike, shrouded in mystery. My assumption is simply it does have sort of curve and the plugin decides on the fly if it needs an increase or decrease on that band. Maybe the minimum attack of 10ms plays into that as well.
Tried it out today. Hated it. It's actually counterintuitive to what is needed for mixing. Individual tracks sound clear, yes, but cold and sterile, but bring the tracks into a mix and the pointlessness of the plugin becomes clear. Everything is masked by everything else because that curve is applied to everything. Mastering is cold and sterile also. People, just learn how to mix. I love Wavesfactory's Spectre but this is just gimmick
Of course you need to learn to mix ;-) I can see the usefulness for a plugin like this to help sculpting stuff. You can adjust the curve to your liking as well. The best usecase would be audio which has many changing resonant frequencies which are hard to many with a regular eq.
@@whitenoisestudio I suppose the marketing is not right though. A problem solver (de essing and such), yes, it might be useful, but using it as they recommend, it's not much good for me. Gulfoss is still the king!
I'm a bit confused by this plugin. What's the difference between Equalizer and a dynamic EQ like MAutoDynamicEQ or EQuivocate assigned a custom curve to match (from either pink noise or a reference track)? Or something like Gullfoss / Teote, which have their own built-in curves? All four of these plugins can already shape / "optimize" a track's curve to a target, and the first two have a lot of options / customization for reaching or choosing that target. While it's probably competing in price and workflow, I'm still trying to figure out whether Equalizer brings something new to the table.
I'd say it's timing and a slightly different approach. But it is mostly an alternative to Teote and Gullfoss, which is something we should applaud. Competition between brands is good for us as customers.
AYAIC's mix monolith does soemthing like that to an extend, but it can be involved. It uses LUFS based levels for certain instruments which you can set.
Played with the demo on a full mix, didn't really like it. Too much pumping and adjusting the bands didn't really effect the overall cuts or boosts. The tilt was useful but I can do that with other eqs. Might be better on individual tracks. I can see this being useful on acoustic guitars, maybe vocals.
Great video! I've been using Newfangled Audio's Equivocate plugin with a pink noise generator equalized with a specific curve, and then using Equivocate's Match EQ feature with the pink noise fed into the side chain. The results are supposed to be much more listenable. I'm not sure how this works or why, but I admit the results are pleasing. So much I still don't know...
Pink noise is a noise curve which has a Frequency distribution which happens to match what we humans like to hear in generally. More lows with a slope downward to less highs.
Why it’s trying to boost at the edges? Who really needs information below 30 hz or above 15 khz on vocal ie? Thats wierd…. It’s definitely needs big knobs to easily limit edges reduction .
that was some valuable content! didn't know yet that it uses pink noise. smart finding! however i'd like to tell you that you probably use the word "time domain" wrong. a lot of filters are implemented in the time domain and can be picked up by plugin doctor easily. actually most filters. the real reason why plugin doctor and eq curve analyzer are quite useless on this plugin is, because there are nonlinear processes (compression) in it that interfere with the attempt to just try to measure what the filters are doing. about your other finding with the laggy visuals: that's probably due to the plugin not using openGL for graphics rendering. openGL uses the graphics card, which saves CPU, but it was also discontinued by Apple a few years ago, is extremely hard to implement and often crashes on very specific systems, so developers sometimes avoid it entirely. a JUCE based plugin, that doesn't use openGL typically renders all GUI aspects on the so-called message thread, which is a shared thread across all JUCE plugins of your project. So I wouldn't be surprised if those lags were different in each new project depending on how many JUCE plugins run at the same time.
I wouldn’t claim it uses pink noise, but it’s something along those curves it seems. Plugin Doctor is extremely bad at detecting anything which is later in actual time. Most likely because small short clicks are used in PD and with plugin like this, it is too short to measure. Try split eq for fun as example as well.
@@whitenoisestudio yeah it's definitely a time-thing, but not a time domain thing. sry if i'm being nitpicky, but time domain just refers to dsp processors that directly process the input signal as a waveform, and that's contrasted by frequency domain dsp processors, which convert that wave into something spectral before going on. filters can be both time- and spectral domain, it doesn't matter. plugin doctor catches all of that, because all filters have in common that when they are run on a single impulse, you get the impulse response of that filter. that's how plugin doctor and eq curve analyzer work. but again, it's just a term. you definitely meant the right thing and i think your message came across perfectly well
Without actually comparing and from memory, I'd say this plugin is more transparent than Gullfoss, that one can sound somewhat hyped at times. But take this with a grain of salt, I didn't compare them side by side.
I bought it yesternight. Haven’t installed it yet. Now I saw your video and before I saw the one by Folia Studio. It’s weird but this is a rare case where even though I love some of their plug-ins in this case, I don’t feel I need it and it might have been a premature purchase
Ceilings of sound pro is very clear to what curves it adjusts the audio, but it is a static ''fix''. The WavesFactory is constantly adjusting and quite vague on what the target curves are. COS is also rather complex.
It seems sorry of like a multi-band dynamic EQ version of vocal rider (not just applied to vocals obviously). Maybe it would work well for certain kinds of electronic dance music..... But it doesn't really feel organic enough for my purposes. Gulfoss seems more subtly tuned to sound more natural. I think I'll pass. Thanks for the video.
I wouldnt use this. Especially not as a go to Problemsolver at the Start. I would use this as few as i can.. I mean if you already have Fabfilter MB, i find that one easyer to just focus on one specific Frequency.. lol Having the whole Spectrum doing just something ... all at once.. no.. not for me.
@@whitenoisestudio yes ive seen you did draw the "treshold" Curve.. , i just thought i make a bit of critical Comment, cause this is just one of the Things that sound "cool" in the first moment, and later on you discover that it sounds a bit boring. Many folks who send their Mix further later might incoporate suboptimal dulled Mixes with that Plugin. So, people be aware that just leaving this Plugin on Full spectrum, man it may sound cool, but a pro, well... i dont think he would use this on full spectrum that often.. Pros sometimes use like mentioned a Multiband Compressor.. You crgue this is also Multiband, yes it is, but this uses like 40 Bands, whera a normal Multiband Compressor uses like 4, or 5.. And sometimes yes, you would turn all 5 Bands on..But you wuld adjust each of the 5 bands by hand.. A bit too much, and you easily end up with a wishy washy sound.. And i see this one just as hard to adjust 40 bands each.. Also, my feeling says , the wishy whashy sound- mistacke may result faster the more BAnds you have.. Im just meaning: im sceptical.. i would not even touch this.. Use your Fabfilter Multiband thigy if youre beginner, so you can learn.. from this i have problems to dig what happens to the sound.. (i work since 7 years in mastering) . i just think for newbies its difficult to use this.. all good. peace
...Just as I thought - thanks for analyzing this. Pink noise curve, which is the Gullfoss approach as well. But is Soothe2's dynamics smoothing also a part of this? Gullfoss doesn't expose an attack/release whereas this does, which leads me to think this may be a blend between the function and philosophy of Gullfoss, and the effort to allow the relative control of this function at each of its 32 bands, like with Soothe2, for de-cymbalizing, for brittle dynamics smoothing and for de-essing for example. Gullfoss has the high/low thing, but its limited to on/off (by dragging the extremities to make a cutoff at the top and bottom. Whereas you can use this on drums or vocals and control the effect relative to transients, by shortening or lengthening the attack and/or release.
@@whitenoisestudio Yeah, totally different end result, but comparable in terms of complexity of process - Do you use a spreadsheet to compare these things? It gets pretty intense to make some of your excellent comparison videos I imagine. I mean, much is hidden to the user, but there are a staggering number of variables that could be analyzed - with some upgrade to Plugin Doctor.
What i thought was most interesting that the dev said was. All the calculations and adjustments are made for every single sample at zero latency. I tried the demo and sounded good to me. I dont own Soothe, Gulfoss or SmartEQ3 like a lot are comparing it too. Any recommendations in that department? They all seems quite different or for different purposes to me but not 100% sure Edit: nvm. Watching the video you already made on it. Haha
Wrong message mate !!!! Wrong message !!!. As a mixing engineer yourself which I'm obviously assuming from the type of content you put out on RU-vid, you shouldn't be advocating for plugins that would mix the song for us. I haven't watched the whole video. Just a 40 seconds of it. But that's what you said in the beginning. "What if there was a plugin that would mix the song for you". NOPE. Thanks. !!!
@@whitenoisestudio I'll be honest I'm not triggered cuz honestly I don't care. I open RU-vid only for plugin demos that channels like yours do and not for mixing tuts. But some of your videos are really good. And I know your channel's growing fast. The last thing you'd want to convince your viewers would be that, a plugin can mix the song for on their way to a Grammy award.
Give me a break. As if any plugin could mix a whole song properly for you. In the wrong hands, this plugin would be useless. These plugins are just tools, not mixing replacements. I don't think any real mixing/mastering engineer right now is fearing losing their job because this plugin was released.
