Size Matters: Four BIG Lever Guns with the RARE .50 Alaskan! 

Being 1 state over I do the same type of hunting. Though I use different ammo the results are the same.

It does have it's purposes still within its limitations.

45-70G is the only "Government" I trust.😁

@@dr.burtgummerfan439 🤣

It's not relevant there are better choices ballistically speaking for every purpose except for one. Putting a smile on your face.

@@soreloser6018 Up to 100 yards it works well on most big game. And yes big smiles

I bet those rounds cost over $10 each, lol.

That 50-110 is fixing to have some stout competition. It's out in the BFR Revolver it's called the 500 Bushwhacker and the beast of all handguns and BFR Magnum Research is talking to Big Horn Armory seeing if they will make a lever action rifle for the round. BHR makes the 500 S&W Spike Driver now hopefully they will make one so I can purchase one. I'd love to have one like yours that 50-110 that's everyone's Holy Grail rifle. You are fortunate enough to own two holy grail guns the 50-110 and 45-100. You ever need anyone to take them off of your hands ✋️ I'm down.

The 450 Marlin has nothing in common with the 458-win mag and you can't even take a 458-win mag case then changes it into a 450 Marlin. You are sure doing your best to be another PUNK ASS RU-vid groupie liar. I am an advanced reloader of wildcat cartridges.

The belt dimensions of the .450 Marlin are different from the H&H and its derivatives. Cases cannot be formed from the belted magnums.

@@Rivercane22 While that is true, it was derived from the .458 Win Mag, not the .45-70 Gov't. Further modifications may be required if you wish to repurpose cases.

@@Rivercane22 You are a RU-vid fraud like to many that post all these liars garage videos spoofing everyone to believe you are some kind of world-renowned expert.

348 case with .458 bullet is 450 Alaskan.

The .450 Alaskan was developed on the Winchester Model 1886 and later the model 71 rifles by Harold Johnson of Cooper Landing, AK. Johnson later sold his gunsmithing business to William Fuller. Fuller developed the .50 Alaskan. The .450 Alaskan rifles built by Johnson were called Johnson Kenai Rifles. They used Buhmiller barrels.

Me too. Love lovers. Got one in .375 Winchester too..along with others

I'll add in the 356 Winchester . . .

@@leebaker2588 nice !

I had one it was a model marlin444 in 444marlin wish I still had to it

@@warrengreen3217 been down that road . . .

Sounds just like the old antique cash registers you had to pull the handle forward and down. We had one like that in our family owned and operated country grocery store.

Same with the 450 Marlin, those are about $9 each.

I have and H&R single shot, breech loader with 32 inch barrel . . . you are correct

We didn't have one on hand at that time.

@MurphysGuns you can get a replica or have one recalibrate for the 50-110 at Turnbull Mfg. Model 1886

Bought by FN 10 years ago

Some say FN has done good w Winchester some say it’s a better rifle to me it doesn’t matter any more if I buy European I’ll get a tikka or sako cz in 22 s

My Winchesters are the 9422m and m70 re barrel in 300 wsm only parts original is the action and bottom metal

Ruger and savage is it I like to see savage bring back the 99 I don’t think cost is a big deal people will pay for the 99 2 k plus just to have one again if done right

All of these lever guns on the table are weak and short-range cartridges that lose energy very quietly. As an Alaskan Hunting guide since 1989 rarely have I seen a 45-70 being used in Alaska because for large and dangerous bears there is far superior rifle cartridges to be used when your life is on the line against large bears that mean to kill you. I have been using a Winchester Mod - 70 in 338 win mag loaded with 225 grain Barns TSX bullets and a CZ 550 in 9.3x62 Mauser loaded with the 286 grain Barns TSX bullets to match the commercial loads of the 375 H&H magnum. My next hunts I will be using my AR 10 I have chambered a Pac Nor super match barrel in 375 - 300 WSM so I am able to get semi auto rifle in the magnum 375 - 300 WSM cartridge for fast cycling of all cartridges when speed is a must have. I build to sell AR 10 uppers in all of the commercial WSM cartridges and in WSM wildcat cartridges. The largest is a 458 WSM AR 10 upper.

@@lurebenson7722 I don't doubt what you say. However, the .45-70 is no pushover and with correct loads (the key), it's about as good as anything and as handy as anything up close for bear defense (not as a main hunting choice). There are .458 diameter bullets for the .45-70 that penetrate beyond belief and you don't need to spit a piece of lead at the speed of light to get the job done. No bear can run faster than even a .22 short rimfire. Crushing tissue, deep penetration, and a decent sized hole is all that is necessary to get the job done on any animal, regardless of how fearful and imposing that animal is. There's bigger and badder cartridges yes, but get something loaded stoutly and .45-70 will penetrate through large sized maple trees. Besides, large high pressure magnums aren't something a lot of people can handle, shoot well, and achieve the sort of followup-shots like a lever action can deliver. Semi-autos take some tuning to function correctly and they are prone to difficulties. .338 magnums, the .375 H&H, even some speedy .30 cal stuff is fine. But a .458 sized hole and a 500gr hunk of crushing hardcast lead isn't going to stop at a couple of bones.

@@exothermal.sprocket You believe you know far more than I do, and you believe these cheap crap lead bullets are some kinds of never fail Mirical bullets far superior to the Barns TSX bullets of Hornaday GMX and CX and now all the other brains of copper expanding bullets? When you write RU-vid teenager groupie BS like that you rat yourself out that you haven't a clue about anything and have zero experiences in Hunting - ammo - bullets. More of how you show your own ignorance and personal experiences of life experiences with guns - ammo- bullets when you talk this BS auto loaders are inferiors to lever guns and the refer to auto loaders jam. I build to sell to shops in Anchorage Alaska the specialized AR 10 uppers in dangerous game wildcat cartridge 358 WSM and a 375 -300 WSM then a large bore 458 WSM with these uppers never fail. The 375 - 300 WSM pushes a 300 grain bullets at 3600 feet per second and both the 375 - 300 WSM and 458 WSM I am sure can do 5000 Foot pound of energy which am sure like all the rest of the teenager RU-vid groupies you believe the 45-70 has more power than a 50 BMG or more power than a 30 mm auto cannon in the noise of the A-10. You believe you know far more than I do at 63 years old and a professional hunting guide with offered hunts in Alaska - Pacific NW - Romania plus a custom rifle builder and advanced reloader and let me remind you these wildcat cartridges I develop have NO load data I have to work up the loadings for the cartridges which I am sure you have NO idea about. I have had dumb asses tell me it can't be done to have the AR 10 chambered for WSM cartridges then want to argue with me even when a company Arsenal decent building and selling AR 10 finished rifles have RU-vid videos on these WSM chambered AR 10 rifles or KAK Industries sells AR 10 rifles in 300 WSM. If I asked you to show how a 358 WSM - 375 - 300 WSM - 458 WSM cartridges are made you couldn't begin to say how even the cartridges are made. But you want to talk crap how powerful the 45-70 is and lead bullets are superior to today's copper expanding bullets Because of your own RU-vid brain washed BS. Let's have a photo's sharing to show you knows more? Let's see you in photos with dead Alaska brown bears or European red stag or Roe Buck and let's see the guns you have built then I can open my Instagram of my photos to compare who knows more so man you PUNK ! let's see what you know in photos! If you can't man up to what you been saying, then you are talking crap out your ass common to all RU-vidr groupies and today's millennials woke gay losers. I have my photos to prove what I say so anyone else want to talk crap me better have photos to back up what they are talking crap to me about.

​@lurebenson7722 I wouldn't call them weak. I've been carrying a 45-70 for years in Montana and Alaska up until 2 years ago when I finally got a 50 Alaskan. They have done the job as designed. I'm sure you have a ton of experience, but I think you missed the mark with the weak claim.

i think Rossi made one sometime ago and Bighorn armory has one that will do 454 and 460sw

@@Perry2186 you are correct. Rossi R92, very cool

we caught that when we first edited the video. Look for the correct velocity in the green box. 1950FPS

@@MurphysGuns thank you. I’m getting 1950-2100 fps in my 25 gr 45-70 handloads, and I was wondering what I am doing wrong.

Yup

You ain’t Jeremiah Johnson…..but watch your top notch anyhow pilgrim….

@@woodrowcall3269 Ever read Jerimiah Johnson? The guy was an idiot. Always singing. Running from an Indian war party but stops to sing in an ice cave because he liked the accoustics

Not really 4570 better for longer range and higher sectional density and a 12 gauge slug 1 oz is down to 900 or a little lower foot pounds once it gets to 100 yards

Disagreed.