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SIZE MATTERS | Super ISU-152-2 vs TIGER II | 152mm BL-10 Armour Penetration Simulation 

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The ISU-152-2 was a prototype tank destroyer from WWII, armed with one of the most powerful tank cannons in history, the 152mm BL-10.
Compared to the standard ISU-152's gun/howitzer, which was already considered a "beast slayer", the BL-10 launched its AP projectiles with around DOUBLE the kinetic energy.
In the simulation, the Tiger II's UFP had been modelled as good quality 240BHN rolled homogenous armour (RHA). The BR-540B armour piercing high explosive ballistic cap (APHEBC) projectile has been modelled to follow the hardening profile of similar Soviet rounds of the era (250-300BHN lower body progressing up to ~450BHN at the nose).
It should be noted that various sources provide conflicting information on the muzzle velocity, with it being taken as 850m/s for the simulation. The range of 750m was derived from this muzzle velocity.
Also, while 150mm @50° 750m may seem more than the experimental ~200mm @0° 1000m, the penetration criteria is much different, with the experimental data requiring a significant amount of the projectile's mass to pass through the target. (which evidently would require a lot less than 150mm @50° to happen, as nearly none passes through in the simulation)
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@reptilesarecool9763
@reptilesarecool9763 Год назад
Rest in pieces driver
@EfEX_15
@EfEX_15 Год назад
​@@kanalegrande831wdym?
@contemptordreadnought
@contemptordreadnought Год назад
Not just the driver but the machine gunner too and the feet of all the turret crew
@BARelement
@BARelement Год назад
And loader
@williamzk9083
@williamzk9083 Год назад
@@kanalegrande831 Precisely. The Tiger-2 would have a rate of fire of at least 6 to 7.5 rounds per minute (10 seconds to 8 seconds between shots on average including time for re-aiming). The ISU-152 only 2 to 3.(30 seconds to 20 seconds rather optimistically they are two piece rounds). so the ISU-152 can fire at best one round every 20 seconds but more likely 30 seconds. The Tiger 2 can fire a second round after only 5.7 seconds for the first few easy to reach rounds so long as the loader drops the rounds on the floor rather than throwing them out the roof discharge hatch. -The range finder of the day was and stedometric range finder but in reality is to observe the fall of shot and then adjust for the second shot which would be the one that stood a good chance of hitting. The Tiger 2 could get of 3 shots before the ISU-152 could get of its secondhand it would have 4 seconds to spare. Of course it could use the time to move under cover.. Ballistics is probably the same after 2000m. The Tiger 2 will win this duel on most occasions due to 'soft factors'. No Tiger 2 was ever penetrated from the front.
@Snifferoftheglue
@Snifferoftheglue 11 месяцев назад
Rest in paste*
@tommeakin1732
@tommeakin1732 Год назад
Just for reference, that gun is actually getting quite close to the kind of muzzle energies of actual light cruiser guns of the era. The shell's on the light end for the calibre, but still, it's no joke
@rare_kumiko
@rare_kumiko Год назад
At 48kg and 850 m/s it actually beats the American 6"/47 and almost beats the British 6"/50 (both were on the low end of muzzle energy but were great, combat-proven guns), although it falls short of the German 150 mm and the Japanese 155 mm guns.
@yoshineitor
@yoshineitor Год назад
Soviets really liked the idea of mounting Naval guns, they did it on the IS-7 too, 900m/s on a 130mm shell.
@MrKenny175
@MrKenny175 Год назад
@@yoshineitor They mounted one 130mm on a prototype SPG called SU-100Y which was actually used in the Battle of Moscow
@sicstar
@sicstar Год назад
@@MrKenny175 The infamous boxtank and the infamous IS-7. I actually adore the simplicty behind the idea, instead of inventing a whole new gun just slap on what is already proven and works and where ammunition is not problem to come by.
@tommeakin1732
@tommeakin1732 Год назад
@@yoshineitor Just to clarify, I'm not saying this 152mm gun is actually a naval gun btw - I assumed it had been built from scratch. Also, was the IS-7's gun actually a modified naval gun? I'm well aware 130mm was a common calibre for soviet destroyer main guns, but that doesn't necessarily mean it is a naval gun of course. I think it's generally fair to say that most naval guns are built too heavy to really work well in armoured vehicles. Most tank guns are actually very light if you compare them to naval guns of the same overall qualities
@georgivanev7466
@georgivanev7466 Год назад
Jesus, thats a real brutal force 💀
@thiagorodrigues5211
@thiagorodrigues5211 Год назад
it's impressive how sloped armor was a real game changer for the time. Imagine this gun's energy would be more than enough to go through 250mm if it was flat
@Niitroxyde
@Niitroxyde 10 месяцев назад
What do you mean "for the time" ? Slopped armor has been around since before tanks even existed.
@thiagorodrigues5211
@thiagorodrigues5211 10 месяцев назад
@@Niitroxyde Because slopped armor died as soon as HEAT weapons became effective. And no, slopped armor became a real thing during Operation Barbarossa
@Niitroxyde
@Niitroxyde 10 месяцев назад
@@thiagorodrigues5211 What are you talking about. How could sloped armor disappear because of HEAT when slopped was just as good against HEAT since it increases the effective thickness of the plate and thus the amount of steel the jet has to go through. Only difference is that HEAT projectile can't really ricochet (unless the warhead doesn't properly go off). Sloped armor was already used on most WW1 tanks you could think of, was used on Ironclad warships in the 19th century and was even used on that Da Vinci's tank design from the 15th century. I'm sure you could find even earlier examples if you dig deep enough.
@thiagorodrigues5211
@thiagorodrigues5211 10 месяцев назад
@@Niitroxyde Because HEAT didn't just penetrate 100mm anymore. It penetrated 400mm which means it was impossible for any tank to carry as much armor as needed. So Tanks became light and fast after WWII until the development of Compositve armor against HEAT. Then, back to kinetic weapons, now an upgraded version of the APDS which again made Tanks vulnerable. Now tanks are useless
@Niitroxyde
@Niitroxyde 10 месяцев назад
@@thiagorodrigues5211 And how is that related to sloped armor ? HEAT was defeating RH armor, sloped or not. But sloped armor was still the most effective way to deter HEAT (save for a few spaced armor ideas like the Schürzen) until the apparition of composite armor. So again, how was HEAT the downfall of sloped armor in particular ? And how are tanks "useless" ? People have been calling tanks obsolete since the end of World War I, yet they're still here and further designs are being worked on in militaries around the world, so they're definitely here to stay for at least this century still. Not to sound too pompous but you need to open a book or two on the matter, bud.
@MegaJani
@MegaJani 11 месяцев назад
I did the math, a round fired from this gun has approximately 55% more kinetic energy than one fired from the M103's, which had the most powerful tank cannon ever fielded.
@cunicularius2064
@cunicularius2064 9 месяцев назад
Maybe if War Thunder finally introduced it, they'd feel compelled to implement post pen damage for partial penetrations
@wotwott2319
@wotwott2319 6 месяцев назад
​@@cunicularius2064finally, yellow indicators have a purpose
@ignacio3890
@ignacio3890 4 месяца назад
Nope was the 152 mm 2a82 of the obj195
@lorenzz2010
@lorenzz2010 3 месяца назад
​@@ignacio3890 not fielded though
@messinberver4683
@messinberver4683 11 месяцев назад
Now imagine an AP round with no filler going at the same velocity as this APHE. It would be completely devastating
@k-osmonaut8807
@k-osmonaut8807 9 месяцев назад
Imagine if they somehow made an APDS shell for this gun (also the m103's)
@vunguyenxuanhoang7422
@vunguyenxuanhoang7422 7 месяцев назад
@@k-osmonaut8807 Just a lighter AP round with better design, metallurgy, and no filler is enough. Imagine if they managed to make an AP projectile that just weight around 30 kg, this cannon can push it to reach the speed of some mid-war APCR projectile
@madmexican1761
@madmexican1761 7 месяцев назад
@@k-osmonaut8807 this technically already exists(ed) as the obj120, which was one of the first tanks with apfsds at a caliber of 152mm and 9.45 meters long barrel, shot out a steel apfsds projectile at mach fuck, assuming i did the math correctly, the cannon on the m103 has 10.1 megajoules of energy, the su-152-2 has 17.34 megajoules, and the obj-120 taran has 18.49 megajoules, although i would assume the isu-152-2 would have a much more devastating effect on the armor overall due to its more massive shell weight
@Rendell001
@Rendell001 4 месяца назад
@@madmexican1761 upvoted for the use of the term "Mach Fuck" - you a fan of Brandon Herrara by any chance?
@JaHail-oy6vq
@JaHail-oy6vq 4 месяца назад
This is simulation remember, In real life it depends on accuracy which ISU-152 never had
@dn2064
@dn2064 11 месяцев назад
It already got mentioned, but the fact that at this point, it's basically deflecting a light cruiser is pretty insane
@Sildrim234
@Sildrim234 9 месяцев назад
That was not a deflection. That Tank Crew is gone for good
@Rendell001
@Rendell001 4 месяца назад
@@Sildrim234 imagine a similar test with the target being an M4 Sherman, M26 Pershing or even a Centurion... I imagine the results would be worse than this.
@kdesikdosi5900
@kdesikdosi5900 4 месяца назад
@@Rendell001 yeah they would've been very dead instead of just dead, makes a considerable difference
@Onobody
@Onobody 2 месяца назад
Disabled tank/ dead crew is not good, lol
@ole993
@ole993 Месяц назад
Even if the round did not pen the crew would die at impact either way.
@runrun7649
@runrun7649 Год назад
Love the content man keep it up!
@SYsimulations
@SYsimulations Год назад
Appreciate it!
@sicstar
@sicstar Год назад
Thanks for all the computation time put into that and making videos of it and giving some explanation.
@SYsimulations
@SYsimulations Год назад
Thanks! I appreciate the appreciation :)
@mikeromney4712
@mikeromney4712 11 месяцев назад
Never put your hand on a Tiger II's frontal armor, when an ISU-152-2 is about to fire at it.
@ivan5595
@ivan5595 Год назад
The issue seems to be shell design. That's why Soviet switched to a different design in their later APCBC rounds (BR-472, BR-367 etc) based on PzGr 39 design (or at least inspired by it)
@SYsimulations
@SYsimulations Год назад
imo, it was more about the metallurgy...which was also later inspired/based off german shells
@mootpointjones8488
@mootpointjones8488 Год назад
I can imagine many fittings inside any AFV struck by the BL-10 gun would be dislodged and the crew concussed causing the AFV to be a casualty.
@Ralphieboy
@Ralphieboy 11 месяцев назад
these are dead interesting little studies, greatly appreciated
@TheIzroda
@TheIzroda 11 месяцев назад
Held up much better than I thought it would.
@lukasnagel4492
@lukasnagel4492 10 месяцев назад
That's what she said.
@MrSquirrelys
@MrSquirrelys Год назад
Holy shit that spalling l, I would like to see the rounds hit at real time
@Lemard77
@Lemard77 Год назад
It problably would happen entirely within 1 or 2 frames of a 60 fps video (16 to 32ms), way too fast to visualize it.
@revolrz22
@revolrz22 Год назад
Could you do a comparative piece on the American 76.2-MM M1A1, German KwK 40, and Soviet 85 ZiS S-53 against the same plate? To compare these otherwise very comparable guns.
@mr.waffentrager4400
@mr.waffentrager4400 Год назад
85mm>76.2mm>75mm l48
@r.j.dunnill1465
@r.j.dunnill1465 Год назад
@@mr.waffentrager4400 Soviet tests conducted against captured King Tigers concluded otherwise.
@mr.waffentrager4400
@mr.waffentrager4400 Год назад
@@r.j.dunnill1465 what did it conclude
@raketny_hvost
@raketny_hvost 11 месяцев назад
​@@mr.waffentrager4400American 76mm was slightly better than Soviet 85 in terms of flat piercing. Same with 75mm m3 against Soviet F-34
@mr.waffentrager4400
@mr.waffentrager4400 11 месяцев назад
@@raketny_hvost and in angled pen, the 85mm and zis 76mm was better because flat head
@user-fv4pj3mq5x
@user-fv4pj3mq5x 11 месяцев назад
А где ВЗРЫВ этого 152 мм снаряда, ведь это бронебойный осколочный снаряд. Он не просто пробивает броню, но, ещё и силой взрыва своего ВВ заряда поражает броне защиту, дополнительно проламывая уже повреждённый участок брони.
@malwinhamm358
@malwinhamm358 10 месяцев назад
According to original shooting tables of the testing of the bl-10 gun, the muzzle velocity of the APHEBC was 900m/s, not 800m/s.
@koi_krapfen
@koi_krapfen 6 месяцев назад
Range is part of the simulation. I would guess 800m/s at 750m distance could be correct.
@JuanMota780
@JuanMota780 Год назад
Bro the driver just need a medkit and is full hp again
@jablon1500
@jablon1500 Год назад
I think he need a necromancer tbh
@Imzeboss
@Imzeboss Год назад
Idiot. Driver would not survive a large chunk of Tiger 2 ufp even with medkit, if a medkit can save that driver, there would be no casualties in ww2.
@manface43
@manface43 Месяц назад
nah he just need a plaster and hes good again
@moosiemoose1337
@moosiemoose1337 Год назад
Great simulation thanks
@petrkdn8224
@petrkdn8224 Год назад
BTW guys, this is 750m... and also, the BR 540B round is in War Thunder, except its fired at a lower velocity, 4.7 ISU 152 600m/s and 6.7 OBJ 268 760m/s. ... everyone always tells me im just feeding onto gaijins russian bias, but even these lower velocity rounds are extremly powerful. ISU 152 can pen Jumbo and Panther UFP up to around 3.3km + a slight angle of 20deg OBJ 268 can about 50% of the time penetrate a TIGER 2 through the UFP at 10m at no angle, which is extremly unlikely scenario, but its possible, and if the ISU 152 2 were to be added, it would be like 7.0 or 7.3.
@carlblack8574
@carlblack8574 Год назад
The OBJ 268 152mm APHEBC is amazing against Tiger II's and Jagdtigers. Even at 1000 meters, you can easily one shot them if you manage to hit the LFP. If i'm not mistaken, the LFP is only 100mm thick, so your massive 152mm APHEBC shell has no issues overmatching that armor.
@nitonono4143
@nitonono4143 Год назад
@@carlblack8574 so ISU 152 > T30 with 155mm, other sims suggest that T30 155mm will just bounce on Tiger II ufp.
@Einheit101
@Einheit101 11 месяцев назад
They WILL add the BL-10. I Am surprised they didnt yet.
@carlblack8574
@carlblack8574 11 месяцев назад
@@Einheit101 I hope they add the ISU-152-2. It wouldn't be a META vehicle, but who cares! I want a 152mm APHEBC railgun of doom.
@tankistrazumist
@tankistrazumist 11 месяцев назад
The ISU-152-2 should be 6.0-6.3, not 7.0 - 7.3. On 6.3 there is already a Su-100P with a 100mm gun with a much faster reload and a turret. And the Su-100 on 6.0. On 6.7 there is a Su-122-54 with APDS and excellent armor.
@Riotlight
@Riotlight Год назад
Shoot an enemy in WT with this shell: Penetrates, hits drivers head, driver turns yellow, shell disappears....
@petrkdn8224
@petrkdn8224 Год назад
huh what? clearly youve never used this round
@Imzeboss
@Imzeboss Год назад
Never has the 152mm shell disappeared on me. Even a shot to enemy's engine would knock them out due to spalling and 1kg of tnt
@IronWarrior86
@IronWarrior86 Год назад
This Russian tank destroyer was nicknamed Zveroboy, which translates into 'Beastkiller'.
@raketny_hvost
@raketny_hvost 11 месяцев назад
Exactly it was name of SU-152 after Kursk, mostly because it was main SPG which killed cats. But it's not too good honestly
@TheIzroda
@TheIzroda 11 месяцев назад
@@raketny_hvost Didn't kill that many of them either. It was always my impression they named it like that because they felt most confident in its ability to destroy the Panthers and Tigers, but it didn't do that much better than anything else they fielded. Fun fact. They used some of the stored ISU-152 made after the war in the liquidation of the Chernobyl zone. They drove them through buildings they needed to level.
@alexanderwolf8766
@alexanderwolf8766 11 месяцев назад
@@TheIzroda Of course, bro, they give names and nicknames for nothing. Just for a second, look out of the eyes of your German great-grandfather sitting in a panther or tiger, along which a high-explosive 152mm flies
@MrKenny175
@MrKenny175 Год назад
It turned the armor into projectiles. It's as if the shell phased through the plate and split into 2 projectiles
@andrewwastell6657
@andrewwastell6657 11 месяцев назад
I like it being narrated 👍
@deennice6035
@deennice6035 4 месяца назад
I like the faster playback towards the end.
@artyomgunard4491
@artyomgunard4491 Год назад
That's the embodiment of everything will be works if you put more force to it.
@phoenix-2467
@phoenix-2467 11 месяцев назад
This video is awsome can you do the king tigers hull vs the gun of the super Pershing?
@Serbian-Templar
@Serbian-Templar 11 месяцев назад
I'm pretty sure that that thing is gonna destroy even a modern mbt,I think the energy release will be so immense that all sensitive components and the crew will be toast
@user-om7zv8ey2z
@user-om7zv8ey2z 11 месяцев назад
Безусловно, что экипаж получит тяжёлую контузию и будет выведен из строя.
@Klovaneer
@Klovaneer 11 месяцев назад
Composite arrays will neatly redirect the energy sideways - it might have about 3 times the power of a 120mm APFDS but it's also a really wide shell. Bare metal like hull sides though? Those are still susceptible even to 57mm.
@Dondolini94
@Dondolini94 Месяц назад
I remember the old days of WoT, really enjoyed this TD
@nou9918
@nou9918 Год назад
love it!!!!!
@o-hogameplay185
@o-hogameplay185 Год назад
suggestion: swedish 37mm APDS vs a T-34 front unagled at 400m
@dominuslogik484
@dominuslogik484 2 месяца назад
can we see this tested against the old abrams hull? I really want to see this like how you tested the 128mm from the jagdtiger on the abrams.
@rafalt.8998
@rafalt.8998 3 месяца назад
Impressive
@reji1495
@reji1495 11 месяцев назад
On WoT the tiger would've taken a hefty 750~ damage 👌🏽
@tin9759
@tin9759 Год назад
Can you do 120mm T53 APBC shell vs tiger 2 armor ?
@Molag-balsDeep_
@Molag-balsDeep_ 3 месяца назад
This goes away as soon as you add that ballistic cap. It looses a bunch of its velocity with distance, it’s pretty weird how you’d pick and choose something that would never be used in such a way
@HistoryShell1786
@HistoryShell1786 8 месяцев назад
Not only is that tiger 2 driver dead as shit, the sheer kinetic energy transferred to the hull from that shell would be enough to severely stun or knock out the crew… maybe even break bones
@gabrielpetre3569
@gabrielpetre3569 Год назад
Oooh, can you test a direct hit perfectly frontal on the gun barrel to see if it mushrooms?
@angelcarvajal8637
@angelcarvajal8637 Месяц назад
Question, if that projectile hit the turret, would it have a catastrophic failure like the Su152 and Isu152 are supposed to have on the Panzer4 and Tigers 1?
@suchandaghosh9064
@suchandaghosh9064 2 месяца назад
I also remember about the 122mm BL-9S is simulation possible for that ?
@paulcadden4967
@paulcadden4967 Год назад
Not strictly tank, but after a little back and forth on FB, how about the 12lb gun of the Surprise Vs the 1inch 'special super strong steel' (as the commentator put it) hull of the Ford class carrier?
@JoakimfromAnka
@JoakimfromAnka Месяц назад
Nobody makes them adiabatic shear bands as beautiful as you do.
@unterhau1102
@unterhau1102 5 месяцев назад
Pretty sure it'd just straight up knock out the crew from the kinetic impact alone even without penning or the welds spitting
@ThatOneMan830
@ThatOneMan830 5 месяцев назад
The thing is, this is still good enough for the job. Even with the shell breaking here the driver is dead, the armor’s got a huge hole, and there’s spalling flying everywhere. Nobody is going to stay inside and wait for another hostile to come and pick them off at their leisure, even if they kill the ISU-152 quickly. It’s a mission kill.
@tankenjoyer9175
@tankenjoyer9175 10 месяцев назад
Thats why it is good to have spall armor inside the tanks
@MrPezsgess
@MrPezsgess 11 месяцев назад
This gun was a pretty big overkill. I love it. I want this in War Thunder.
@rdraider11
@rdraider11 11 месяцев назад
it is in war thunder, it's mounted on the object 268
@MrPezsgess
@MrPezsgess 11 месяцев назад
@@rdraider11 It's not the same. The BL-10 gun is much stronger and longer. The in-game one is 152 mm M-64. There is a 100 mm difference in penetration. But that doesn't matter because, in reality, the sheer force could destroy any tank.
@nicm.z9868
@nicm.z9868 2 месяца назад
Imagine getting hit by a 50 kg projectile travelling at mach jesus and you just see the ufp becoming your enemy instead of your protection
@darshilkhairnar6625
@darshilkhairnar6625 Год назад
Love this gun
@The_Curious_Cat
@The_Curious_Cat 5 месяцев назад
This could be countered by adding a thinner plate of armour with a slight space in between them to disperse just enough energy so when it reaches the main armour, it doesn't penetrate. (if the ISU-152 did become available in numbers to encounter Tiger 2's regularly). But by the time Tiger 2's were a problem, the war was already in a phase that Germans had to look up rather then in front when it comes to things that could destroy their heavy tanks (fighter-bombers). And of course, with so little fuel around, Tiger 2's barely moved around to be a real problem to the allies. And if they did... Here comes a fighter-bomber and there goes another German tank blown to bits.
@user-xp1gh3zk8y
@user-xp1gh3zk8y Год назад
ISU 152 ❤
@Panzer_Craze
@Panzer_Craze 11 месяцев назад
The thumbnail shows the ISU-152-1 BL-8 it’s just a longer version
@leon-ks9yn
@leon-ks9yn 7 месяцев назад
"even a non-penetrating hit would have a good chance of splitting the welds or disabling the tiger ii" dude, just IMAGINE that
@t10god
@t10god Год назад
Soviet 3BM25 APFSDS versus Chieftain tank's front turret cheek at 500 meters?
@M551_Sheridan
@M551_Sheridan 9 месяцев назад
What simulation software do you use
@RT-mm8rq
@RT-mm8rq 11 месяцев назад
Would like to see this simulation against the Maus
@chasebh89
@chasebh89 Год назад
cold you do a flatter target with the same gun?
@d9720267
@d9720267 Год назад
Pressumably it's steel and not tungsten? Would be good to include this information by default. Still, great work! 👍
@SYsimulations
@SYsimulations Год назад
Yes, hardened steel, for future reference, I specifically mention when the projectile/core is made of anything but steel
@janflorovic5880
@janflorovic5880 4 месяца назад
**152.4mm BL-10** **BR-540 APHE (48.78kg at 880m/s)** Penetration: 300mm @ 0m at 0 ° - 880m/s 169mm @ 0m at 55 ° 139mm @ 0m at 60 ° - **BR-540B FN-APHEBC (48.96kg at 880m/s)** Penetration: 254mm @ 0m at 0 ° - 880m/s 168mm @ 0m at 55 ° 138mm @ 0m at 60 °
@basedjorts
@basedjorts 8 месяцев назад
I'd like to see the 120mm M358 against the Tiger II glacis.
@georgefloyd7629
@georgefloyd7629 6 месяцев назад
Didn't russian aphe have better angled performance than aphebc, I remeber hearing that somewhere but idk if its tru3
@VictorLarsen-fy9ls
@VictorLarsen-fy9ls 11 месяцев назад
So there is still no explosion of the projectile itself after the hit.
@JoeyBoyle-jv9vr
@JoeyBoyle-jv9vr 6 месяцев назад
Can you do the tiger lls upper plate vs its own gun?
@wandal7032
@wandal7032 Год назад
I'm curious if it would be possible to show simulation at realistic speed for comparation?
@SYsimulations
@SYsimulations Год назад
It would be
@wandal7032
@wandal7032 Год назад
@@SYsimulations but what if simplify simulation as much as possible and show it few times with different speed?
@tongqualin
@tongqualin Год назад
Can you recreate the Panther shot to T-34-85 spare track in "T-34" movie
@Weblima
@Weblima Год назад
Please make Simulation: 203mm vs tiger 2
@jedizhawk
@jedizhawk Год назад
I would like to see in simulation the whole welded plate
@SYsimulations
@SYsimulations Год назад
So would i, but don't think the pc would be happy about it
@r.j.dunnill1465
@r.j.dunnill1465 Год назад
A declassified US Army Ordnance brochure stated that the 90mm M3 T30E16 round would defeat the Tiger II upper glacis out to 100 yards. Presumably they made that claim on the basis of firing tests.
@williamzk9083
@williamzk9083 Год назад
It's a very tiny glacis, very hard to hit.
@elpollo2805
@elpollo2805 11 месяцев назад
@@williamzk9083 The upper glacis is literally the entire front of the tank. If you can't hit that you couldn't hit anything.
@williamzk9083
@williamzk9083 11 месяцев назад
@@elpollo2805 sorry I meant the mantlet on the Tiger II which is tiny.
@danielgotler770
@danielgotler770 Год назад
How do you make these videos, with what program?
@SYsimulations
@SYsimulations Год назад
ansys :)
@nitonono4143
@nitonono4143 Год назад
can you make T30 155mm vs tiger II?
@bobgatewood5277
@bobgatewood5277 5 месяцев назад
What software is this?
@voce5042
@voce5042 5 месяцев назад
Here's hoping for Gaijin to implement something like this in their fucking game. I'm talking about the destruction of armour.
@International_Corn
@International_Corn 8 месяцев назад
*Black Gunner, Red Machine Gunner, Orange Gunner, Orange Gunner, Yellow Commander.*
@jeri_v2578
@jeri_v2578 Год назад
That is some NASTY spalling
@4T3hM4kr0n
@4T3hM4kr0n 10 месяцев назад
"If it had entered service it would have been the most powerful tank cannon ever fielded based on the kinetic energy of the projectile" M103: "good thing it didn't enter service then"
@ottovonbismarck2604
@ottovonbismarck2604 11 месяцев назад
Can you do it with T30 155mm HVAP?
@vanignis
@vanignis 4 месяца назад
Эта симуляция не отражает реальность. В 1943 году трофейные тигры были обстреляны различными калибрами советских пушек. От выстрела 152 калибра у тигра вырывало огромные куски брони, образуя дыры. Есть фотографии хроники.
@MrQuazar
@MrQuazar Год назад
Pls make video of Titan implosive above 4000m under water
@CMDRFandragon
@CMDRFandragon 11 месяцев назад
Germanys philosophy on tanks: Build it bigger Russia's philosophy on tank guns: Build it bigger Honestly, lets see this same test, but against the Maus...I wanna see what it'd do against even more dummy thicc armor. Then do it again against a modern tank.
@TheBigExclusive
@TheBigExclusive Год назад
Given the low quality metallury and rushed production of the Soviet Union, is it possible to assume that most ISU-152 projectiles were low quality and prone to falling apart? What kind of projectile was modeled for the simulation?
@user-vo4kc5xh3w
@user-vo4kc5xh3w Год назад
Хватило бы просто фугасного снаряда калибра 152 мм в лоб башни, там верх корпуса 40 мм толщины - его банально вдавит внутрь взрывной волной.
@BigSmartArmed
@BigSmartArmed Год назад
Rushed production and poor quality was due to relocation of industry behind Ural mountains. By 1944 poor quality metallurgy was in Germany due to shortages of resources and energy, while in USSR metallurgy quality became superior.
@petrkdn8224
@petrkdn8224 Год назад
you could counter that with poor quality german steel by the end of the war
@SYsimulations
@SYsimulations Год назад
The projectile followed the relatively soft hardening and brittleness of similar Soviet shells of the era, being ~250-300BHN at the base, going upto ~450BHN at the nose
@StandingHereI
@StandingHereI 5 месяцев назад
that same low-quality metallurgy made the most durable tank armor, while the Americans mastered armored steel by the end of the war and made their hulls casted and overweighted
@Ghostmaxi1337
@Ghostmaxi1337 Год назад
7,7 cm K. Gr. 15 m.P m.L from 7,7 cm FK 16 L/35 and the 7,5 cm K. Gr. Rot Pz at 650m/s from the 7,5 cm FK 16 n.A. L/36 would be nice.
@nagmashot
@nagmashot 10 месяцев назад
fun fact there not a single Kingtiger frontal glacis plate penetration recorded during ww2
@tomlaker1344
@tomlaker1344 4 месяца назад
Mich würde interessieren, mit welcher Stahl-Qualität hier modelliert wird. Die Frontplatte des Tiger II war gewalzt und gehärtet und hatte damit eine deutlich höhere Härte und Zähigkeit als spröder russischer Stahl. Selbst die Sherman waren den unsäglichen T34 weit voraus und besaßen damals bereits Inliner.
@michaelbelonio3342
@michaelbelonio3342 Год назад
It doesn't penetrate but the spall can still inflict damage
@Rendell001
@Rendell001 11 месяцев назад
The spalling alone would be horific for the crew inside...
@thajackal9072
@thajackal9072 11 месяцев назад
Can you do t 34 ap Vs tiger 2 roof
@randonamedboosh
@randonamedboosh 3 месяца назад
bro when I was 6 I thought that I could out run this round
@santossteven97
@santossteven97 Год назад
Same vs Maus Armor Please
@KekusMagnus
@KekusMagnus 10 месяцев назад
Still waiting for the day they add this as a premium. Everyone loves soviet APHA mega derp guns
@Wiesel1a4
@Wiesel1a4 4 месяца назад
The driver is unconscious!
@Revnge7Fold
@Revnge7Fold Год назад
wow... the tiger II still "tanked" that shot quite well!!
@worldoftancraft
@worldoftancraft Год назад
If you call a ripping of a huge spot of skin plus cloud full of tiny splinters "tanking" then the hell is a tank?
@Aknayelth
@Aknayelth Год назад
​@@worldoftancraftcalm down buddy, we are just impressed that it didn't penetrate it completely
@TheAllKnowNoble
@TheAllKnowNoble Год назад
Very funny
@DaddysBelt92
@DaddysBelt92 Год назад
I dunno man it seems that those chunks leaving the armor aren't gonna be friendly to the crew Inside. No tanking at all. The tank got eviscerated simply
@Revnge7Fold
@Revnge7Fold Год назад
​@@DaddysBelt92 I meant it like for such a powerful round you would expect it to go though like a hot knife through butter, but it still bounced.
@progressorofbridgesman
@progressorofbridgesman 10 месяцев назад
Вы показываете идеальные условия.В реале к 1944 г.нацистов отрезали от источников никеля,берилия и вольфрама,поэтому броня их танков лопалась ,как стекло....
@sangomasmith
@sangomasmith Год назад
It would be interesting to see what this shell would do at range. Alternatively; I just checked, and I don't think you've done a 'normal' 152mm against a Tiger II UFP...
@SYsimulations
@SYsimulations Год назад
I think there's an image of a normal 152 impact on a tiger II on tank archives. It just leaves a massive scoop shaped dent
@chingiz_123
@chingiz_123 4 месяца назад
Вроде как использование фугасного 152 мм снаряда даёт больший эффект.
@piopiohon7415
@piopiohon7415 6 месяцев назад
holy BL-10
@ks29earl
@ks29earl Год назад
The regular 152 mm howitzer-gun M1937 (ML-20) of the SU-152/ISU-152 never penetrated the front glacis of the Tiger II. Its MV was 655m/s/ While the shock value was there, the penetration was not. Could the BL-20 at 800m/s (1946) penetrated? I dont know. 800m/sec was still not HV. I would think that it would concuss the crew and yes, crack some poor welds. Penetrate? Unless it had a different warhead/material, probably not.
@jamierabec7518
@jamierabec7518 10 месяцев назад
Does a shell that size even need an explosive filler?
@ganndeber1621
@ganndeber1621 11 месяцев назад
17pdr firing APDS could penetrate the Tiger 2 glacis according to the Tank musuem but the fight never happened
@Treblaine
@Treblaine Год назад
152mm? That's the same size as guns used on Cruisers!
@zaegustfen6085
@zaegustfen6085 Год назад
basically ISU-152K can obliterate the poor tiger 2
@JoeyBoyle-jv9vr
@JoeyBoyle-jv9vr 6 месяцев назад
Say your prayers for the driver.
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