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sizing ( POWDER COATED BULLETS ) or NOT!!!!? 

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Sizing powdercoated bullerts using Lee sizing die, Question, size before or after powdercoating? or do you powder coat the bullets and not size them at all. another good reason to size the powder coated bullet is you won't have to flair the case as much and or risk shaving your powder coating off as you seat the bullet...
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@ekim000
@ekim000 3 года назад
Thanks for putting in the effort in putting out this info for our benefit.
@drice847
@drice847 3 года назад
I had forgotten how much I missed Elvis Ammo being on RU-vid or UgeTube on a regular basis...I was excited when I had seen you posted another video, short or not. Thanks for what you do for this community Elvis....You and Full Lead Taco are the reason I got into casting and power coating my own bullets..
@wetwriterrr
@wetwriterrr 5 лет назад
Thanks Elvis, you clarified this issue and it makes sense just to resize after powder coating. And any time spent in your reloading cave is good time. The grass mowing can wait.
@keith9875
@keith9875 2 года назад
Performed my first successful powder coating on 9mm LEE bullet today. Much, much easier than I was expecting. Loaded about 100 rounds with the new bullet and I can’t wait to start again tomorrow. Thanks Elvis for your fine instructions.
@jetvalmonte4742
@jetvalmonte4742 7 лет назад
Thank you Elvis, for putting up your powder coating videos. Your videos are down to earth and takes away the mystery from powder coating. Looks like its bye bye messy alox for me from now on.
@elvisammo
@elvisammo 7 лет назад
hey Jet Valmonte... glad to help my friend. ... thanks for taking the time to comment! !!!
@JaredHempfield
@JaredHempfield 4 года назад
Getting that same setup and press delivered tomorrow! Powdercoating mine in neon green so I can harvest them out of the dirt easier. The sizing process is even fun to watch, good video, thanks!
@bidkid2020
@bidkid2020 5 лет назад
Great video look forward to hearing more Lee thank you
@l.a.3887
@l.a.3887 2 года назад
You do a great job of teaching I size after powder coating and I size all of my cast bullets I learn something on all of your videos always I really like the little c press a lot. GRATE VIDEO THANKS ELVIS
@l.a.3887
@l.a.3887 2 года назад
Thanks for the info Elvis
@mickmoriarty5442
@mickmoriarty5442 6 лет назад
Great video, thanks,, lots of questions I didn't know I had have been answered by this vid.
@TRPack
@TRPack 7 лет назад
You have made some great points Thank You
@olreprobate4777
@olreprobate4777 4 года назад
I’ve been experimenting with different powders. Super Chrome being the latest. Amazing accuracy with my .40. Older fellows at the range are impressed. Adds .003-.005”. I size after powder coat. Keeps everything uniform. Thanks sooo much
@l.a.3887
@l.a.3887 2 года назад
Thank you just makes sense to size after powder coating
@emnhw1comcastnet
@emnhw1comcastnet 8 лет назад
I haven't commented before, but you make great vids!!!
@hardybirch3630
@hardybirch3630 6 лет назад
Watching your classes (videos) should earn continuing education credits for reloaders. Thank you sir.
@elvisammo
@elvisammo 6 лет назад
Hey Hardy Birch.. hehe.. thank ya sir! : )
@crackerstorm112
@crackerstorm112 7 лет назад
a pleasure to watch. thanks.
@elvisammo
@elvisammo 7 лет назад
hey enoreach007... Im glad ya like the videos! Thank you for your comments and thanks for watching!
@brandonlopez5855
@brandonlopez5855 4 года назад
Awesome info learned a lot!
@bgufford
@bgufford 2 года назад
Elvis just found your site and watched this video. I've been casting for 50 years. I especially tuned in to your comments regarding bullet diameter. I have always slugged my bores for cast bullets. Then I size two thousands over bore diameter on average using a Lyman #2 alloy. If I am using hard cast bullets that are 18+ brinell above 1600 then I go one thousands over bore diameter with a gas check design bullet or I use a plain base bullet with a custom plain base gas check. The objective is to have the bullet seal the bore with proper bullet obturation which is dependent on alloy, diameter, velocity. Casting is a science but can be simple of all you are doing is pistol bullets under 1500 fps. But even then, proper diameter is very important. Thanks for the videos!
@3gracing
@3gracing 5 лет назад
Good info, thanks again!
@bibbyman2
@bibbyman2 5 лет назад
I use a small C press mounted upside down and have a plastic gallon jug that is set up so the exit end of the sizing die sets inside the mouth of the jug. Drop bullet in die and ram it down. Size bullet "poops" out the bottom into the jug. MUCH faster progress.
@jamesowens2781
@jamesowens2781 4 года назад
You got me into powder coating I size my PC bullets and if it is a hot round I gas check it. If it is subsonic probably not depends on Chrono the shot group and the holes in target if it is key hole then maybe gets a gas check
@robertpaasch6343
@robertpaasch6343 4 года назад
THANK YOU!!!
@Billbobaker
@Billbobaker 3 года назад
I often size after casting and then lightly powder coat them and then load for the Lee 95 TC cast bullets. they are so tiny for 9mm that they drop right in the tube. But I think you are right sizing after because having to clean off the lube to powder coat is a wasted step.
@nivesknight
@nivesknight 3 года назад
Great video. I dont think the bullets are getting stronger or harder. I have done a lot of metal work the more you work a metal the more fatigued the metal tends to get. In the end if it fits properly and is not over pressurized the barrel will resize it and will fit perfectly. If you sized a 357 bullet down to say 9mm it will increase the spread on target. Leaving them a thousand over is a good idea. As a example a 9mm barrel may be .355 but the bullets typically are .356 or even .357. In the end it is what works the best for you and your firearm. Be safe. Ask questions and have fun
@theeasternfront6436
@theeasternfront6436 6 лет назад
You da man Elvis.
@ericlaird7508
@ericlaird7508 5 лет назад
Elvis, I am fixing to get into powder coating 9MM's that I cast up in the LEE 2 cavity 124 grain tc mold and thank's to you and FortuneCookie45LC , I will be powder coating all my cast bullet's now,I really enjoy saving moolah and shooting more...I dig it, KEEP ON ROCKIN IT !!!...
@sablahedning
@sablahedning 7 лет назад
thank you i value your advice and your videos
@elvisammo
@elvisammo 7 лет назад
Thank ya sablahedning..... Thanks for watching! : )
@richwilcox9564
@richwilcox9564 4 года назад
Thank you. I was wondering that as well.
@Gunmonkey5
@Gunmonkey5 Месяц назад
I do both, size after casting and size after every powder coat. I also buy the custom sizing dies from Lee specific to my barrel size
@werre2
@werre2 8 лет назад
First powdercoat, then size. This is a must because I use molds that have been dremeled to gain some extra diameter and get rid of the wax groove.
@rohawaha
@rohawaha 7 лет назад
Back in the stone age " 40 yrs ago " I learned to cast from an old guy who was very well known , he casted bullets for the US Olympic Bulls eye team for many years. I though sizing was a pain in the rear, but I was also an accuracy fanatic. The wise old fellow explained it to me like this. He said " Yes you can shoot unsized bullets , but think of it in terms of s 6 cylinder car engine, if each cylinder had a different size piston the dam thing would never run right " well it made sense to me then and I still size all my bullets and I almost always have very good accuracy.
@elvisammo
@elvisammo 7 лет назад
Hey Roha Waha... He sounds like a smart man! I tend to size everything but the 223. the lee 223 seems to make such little contact with the rifling .. only the thin driving bands.. But I am looking into getting a custom mold to change that... good to hear from ya!!!!
@jimvac77
@jimvac77 2 года назад
Ok Boomer. :) That car analogy is just not good, sorry.
@w.rustylane5650
@w.rustylane5650 2 года назад
I use my 9mm cast bullets straight from the mould as they drop at .356. After tumble lubing them I load them. I've never got into powder coating as of yet. I see a lot of reloaders using powder coating but I've got too much lube to use up before I ever need any more lube. Rusty, K9POW in eastern Tennessee.
@Leatherbark
@Leatherbark 3 года назад
Good Information E.A. ..........I am getting ready to cast some C.312 -185 Lee rifle bullets for my 1909 Argentine Mauser. It has a .315 groove diamter. Hopefulley the Lee bullets will come out of the mold at .313 and the powder coating will add enough so that when I use my .316 sizer I wont have to beagle the mold.
@h82bporgmail
@h82bporgmail 7 лет назад
Great vid, I have been reloading for a bit now, just started casting..
@elvisammo
@elvisammo 7 лет назад
thanks H82bpor... best of luck to ya with the casting bug!!! : )
@wtom100
@wtom100 4 года назад
It really is necessary to lightly spray lube the bullets after they are powder coated and before they are sized. Makes it so much better. I boil some water and dunk the bullets in it to get the lube off. Soapy water would probably work just as well. Absolutely perfect results. Home made lanolin/alcohol spray lube.
@edadpops1709
@edadpops1709 8 лет назад
Thanks for the answer.ive got to slug my Marlin,but suspect it to be over sized.
@Goldenkryptonite999
@Goldenkryptonite999 6 месяцев назад
I had my cast bullets come out of the Lee mold closer to .360?!! Thank you for this video because I was having trouble chambering in my semiautomatic pistols.
@richardkut3976
@richardkut3976 10 месяцев назад
Excellent.
@archangel20031
@archangel20031 2 года назад
I have done powder-coating professionally and the cured powder should be rather thick (could be anywhere from .010 to .040 thick) if applied in the traditional way, so I'd want to size before coating to get it sized correctly, then after to bring it back down. The shake and bake method Elvis uses obvoiusly ends up being a much thinner coating. And no matter the thickness, as long as there is some coating thickness, it should act as a lubricant preventing lead contacting and sticking to the barrel.
@PyroRob69
@PyroRob69 4 года назад
How the hell did I miss this video? Keep it up!
@rodneyhardee2527
@rodneyhardee2527 4 года назад
You are the man
@gradytharpe8757
@gradytharpe8757 Год назад
Curtis depends on what you from your bullets. If they are not hard enough - try dropping them in water and they will over 6-8+ hours harden. If that is not enough, then you can look at adding other metals
@loboel264mag7
@loboel264mag7 7 лет назад
Elvis Ammo I need to give you a thank you for teaching me powder coated bullets. I didn't like the mess of lubing cast bullets. I have a suggestion for a good video for you. Use the same bullet weight with a jacketed bullet vs a lubed cast bullet vs powder coated with the same powder charge and primer across your crony. Thank you again Sir
@patrickbelongea6896
@patrickbelongea6896 6 месяцев назад
I like to size after powder coating. Sizing first would require lubing, sizing, then cleaning off lube before powder coating can be done.
@MrCharley201
@MrCharley201 8 лет назад
Powder coated my first 9mm bullets today they were .361, .362 after coating. I like you thought that was a little big, so I ran them through the sizing die. Good video.
@elvisammo
@elvisammo 8 лет назад
Cool deal Mr Lawson! !! that's awesome. . thanks so much for getting back and letting me know how it went!! feels pretty good huh?
@T.A.B.Videos
@T.A.B.Videos 8 лет назад
Thanks for the info
@elvisammo
@elvisammo 8 лет назад
your welcome, treesablowin!
@archangel20031
@archangel20031 3 года назад
To size your bullets before or after, that is the question, and I'm betting the answer is yes to both, because if the bullet is already oversized, it's going to be even more so with the powder coat, and at least if you size it before you powder coat it, you bring it down to the appropriate size, then you only need to resize it the thickness of the newly added powder.
@comodice905
@comodice905 2 года назад
ur on the right track just got trim up the losseys crimp hard run through resizin dye bust them bulges out v duct um barrel them bang down range into water tank recover perfect bullet reload it pow boom goes the dynomo
@geraldf.1222
@geraldf.1222 Год назад
You have to stick to SAAMI Specs on loaded ammo, to make sure it will function. If you're casting the right mix of alloy, you should get close enough to maybe not need to size, but you should lube. Powder coating or lubricating and correct bullet size are both essential.
@jonbrausa6205
@jonbrausa6205 5 лет назад
The for this video, big help.
@georgeriedel9357
@georgeriedel9357 8 месяцев назад
GOOD STUFF THANKS
@SuperFlatrock
@SuperFlatrock Год назад
I've cranked out 1,000s of 9mm bullets using MP Molds (.356/125g and 130g). I powder coat and size using a .356 lee sizer kit. After reloading, there is always a slight bulge in the 9mm case which is designed to accept .355 9mm bullets. As long as the OAL is acceptable for your gun, the rounds will chamber and fire just fine.
@chknlyps2373
@chknlyps2373 Год назад
I like to call that bulge the bullets panty line... lol
@robertpowell2746
@robertpowell2746 2 года назад
Elvis I quench when they come out of the mold and I also quench after I power coat and they come out of the oven. Don't know whether that's the correct way of doing it but it seems like they always come out pretty nice.
@Iceberg050
@Iceberg050 4 года назад
I size all PC’d 9mm bullets to 356 and they shoot well!
@way2gorule521
@way2gorule521 8 лет назад
Good idea😎
@elvisammo
@elvisammo 8 лет назад
thanks again Way2gorule! so glad you liked that! happy shooten!
@mpccenturion
@mpccenturion 5 лет назад
Well - this is most interesting. I load for 303 Brit. I have 5 rifles and they run from .312 to .316. So powder coating would make sense for me, as I load brass for individual rifles. Thank you.
@hartstudebakerkid
@hartstudebakerkid 6 лет назад
I use a Lee 105 grain trunicated cone 9mm mold for 9mm I size after powder coating but for .38, 357 magnum and .38 S&W I do not run them though the sizer.
@battalion151R
@battalion151R 3 года назад
Holy Crap! With the price of ammo skyrocketing, and all us newbies powdercoating, the price of old used countertop ovens has exploded. I had to spend $10.00 on a used convection! 😆 With this liberal congress, we may have to worry about a countertop oven ban. Thanks for the tips Elvis. I "accidentally" got a .357 sizer. I stuck one in my cart, to research, and my wife ordered it. I've been sizing 9's and .38's with it, post powdercoating. Haven't had any accuracy problems out of the .38's. And, I tried running a factory 9mm jacketed through it. It wouldn't drop free.
@kirkboswell2575
@kirkboswell2575 7 лет назад
And in case you wonder about black powder rifles and cartridges, they were "patched" with either pillow ticking, or paper, both acting as a form of "jacket" that prevented leading.
@elvisammo
@elvisammo 7 лет назад
hey kirk. .. that's what makes what we're doing here so exciting. . it a whole new world so far.. and lots more to discover!
@prebaned
@prebaned Год назад
Your far better served sizing all after coating. You really need consistency for accuracy. Larger/smaller bullets give higher /lower pressure in turn faster/slower FPS. Letting the rifiling throat leade in size oversized bullets will compromise the coating also, inducing leading. Revolvers are a whole nother issue with proper size. The cylinder throats determine the size basee on the barrel groove diameter.
@OriginalFallofMind
@OriginalFallofMind 4 года назад
Mine was not doing so hot @3 thousandths over. .357 &.358 was causing a Lot of leading after 100 rnds one pistol and 1 pcc. Accuracy was fine in close and at 100 yards until the leading started. Ordered a lee sizer and different powdercoat
@segarza
@segarza 3 года назад
Try a harder alloy. Your velocity may be too high for the alloy you are using.
@TerryLooft
@TerryLooft 3 года назад
I'm ready to try this, I've been powder coating for quite a few years on automotive restoration parts. My question is why do you not get paint fouling in the barrel from the heat re-melting the paint?
@lestergillis8171
@lestergillis8171 Год назад
I DO have a LEE press just like that one. I use it for:Bullet swaging, Ram Prime, separate de-priming, and rifle reloading. It serves multiple roles for me now.
@ASwordoftheLordGod
@ASwordoftheLordGod Год назад
MY QUESTION IS WAS IT $25? IS IT AS CHEAP AS THIS GUY CLAIMS IT IS SO FOR THE WHOLE KIT 50 BUCKS.? AND WHERE DID YOU GET IT AT WHAT'S THE NAME OF IT....???
@lestergillis8171
@lestergillis8171 Год назад
@@ASwordoftheLordGod If memory serves me right, I bought it as a "stand alone" item about 20 yrs ago or more. It also works well for single stage rifle case reloading, de-priming, priming, ect.
@lestergillis8171
@lestergillis8171 Год назад
@@ASwordoftheLordGod Yes... it was about that price. Not any more though...
@lestergillis8171
@lestergillis8171 Год назад
@@ASwordoftheLordGod I didn't buy it as a "kit" as I already had a turret press from several years prior. I bought as a "stand alone" because I needed it for "other" utility work.
@lestergillis8171
@lestergillis8171 Год назад
@@ASwordoftheLordGod They WERE about that price, once upon a time. NOT any more...🤔
@michael184272
@michael184272 3 года назад
Another very informative video..thanks Question..How is that LEE single stage press working out for you? I would like to get a single stage press to resize on and wasn't sure which Lee to purchase.. any information would be greatly appreciated..thanks
@bigjj974
@bigjj974 3 месяца назад
When loading for lever guns (,357 or 38 special) you need to size your bullets. Reasoning is simple, out of the molds they are .358. That is fine for a revolver as the cylinder chambers are usually ,358 to .359 and the forcing cone to the barrel will size them correctly when fired. However, if you try to use those .358 bullets in the lever gun they can hang up when they try to chamber as the lever gun has to make a turn at the top to accept the round. If you lube and size the rounds for lever gun they will usually accept the same rounds as the revolver.
@stephenalibozek1058
@stephenalibozek1058 2 года назад
Yes that answered most of my questions but the last one is do you still lube them with the liquid Alex after you coat them and size them
@robertrivasarroyo1174
@robertrivasarroyo1174 2 года назад
From what I've heard, you don't need to size cast bullets but it makes sense to size powder coated bullets because your adding thickness to the surface of the lead.
@elvisammo
@elvisammo 2 года назад
It is a subject that gets some scrutiny. In my experience sizing is always best. Even in the old Luber Sizer‘s the bullet was lubed and sized. Just my thoughts and my experience
@wkelley4127
@wkelley4127 4 года назад
At the beginning of this video I thought the question was 'should I size before or after I powder coat bullets" Gee, I don't think that question was really answered except for Elvis' example is sizing after powder coating. I tried sizing after powder coating and I see what appears to be bare lead on the sides of the bullets after sizing. Maybe size before and after, however that is a lot more effort and time. Is it worth sizing twice or maybe once before powder coating ?
@theeasternfront6436
@theeasternfront6436 6 лет назад
Wish I could find em for $20! Odd note, just bought a .358 and it DIDN'T come with alox. Come to think of it I should leave a review on those jokers.
@kirkboswell2575
@kirkboswell2575 7 лет назад
H82Bpor, the reason for gas checks is because of speed limitations of cast bullets. Pure lead can't be fired faster than 900 fps without leading the barrel. Casting harder alloys allows speeds up to 1200-1300 fps. For anything faster than that, you needed both a hard alloy, and gas checks to prevent leading the barrel. Even so, even with gas checks, cast bullet speeds are mostly limited to 2200-2300 fps although a few of the old timers could get 2500 fps or thereabouts. With this "new fangled" powder coating, it is starting to look like gas checks will become a thing of the past (although I'm still investigating - not converted yet).
@elvisammo
@elvisammo 7 лет назад
hey kirk... we will be learning a little more coming up pretty soon.
@richmiller6284
@richmiller6284 8 месяцев назад
Something I didn't hear mentioned.. From my understanding, the bullet should be .001" over the diameter of the groove measurement.. This would be the size you want your sizer to be.
@dwradford
@dwradford 5 лет назад
I just did my first batch of cast PC 9mm using a Lee TL356-124-TC mold. I needed to size before and after powder coating because some of the rounds were coming in at ~362+ out of the mold. Not sure what the issue is as most were perfect (~5% are way too big). What is the issue causing some to be so oversized out of the mold? On another note, I used your low heat method for PC. I put them in the oven at 275 for 15 minutes. Then let them cool and toss them in a cardboard box. They broke apart perfectly.
@mdlanor5414
@mdlanor5414 7 лет назад
I always size my lead alloy cast Projectiles before and after powder coating. A little extra work, and knowing that the cast lead alloy projectiles are correct and uniform in size.
@elvisammo
@elvisammo 7 лет назад
hey M dlanor... It's a little OCD.. But I got some of that myself.... It Definitely gets em tuned up right!
@mdlanor5414
@mdlanor5414 7 лет назад
elvis ammo It's absolutely OCD. Reloading is excellent therapy for me.
@kw2798
@kw2798 7 лет назад
I also size before AND after powdercoating. After-sizing cuts off any plastic dags from the base of the bullet and is quick and easy.
@mdlanor5414
@mdlanor5414 7 лет назад
kw2798 Sizing before and after powder coating lead alloy projectiles that I cast, is great therapy for my OCD. Doing this is very important for me, it helps me relax. There is nothing wrong with going through process of resizing twice. Some would say it's not necessary to resize before and after powder coating. It probably isn't necessary.Better safe than sorry. My grandchildren shoot my reloads with the cast lead alloy projectiles. I have never had a misfire or any problems with my reloads. Plus I use the minimum amount of gun powder in my reloads, that allows my semi automatic pistols to cycle properly. In my revolvers, I use the minimal amount of gun powder in my reloads. These reloads that my grandchildren shoot ate for basic target practice. What sucks is it is cheaper to reload most pistol bullets, than purchase .22LR ammunition. I purchased 25,000 rounds of .22LR from an estate sale in 1995. There were 50 bricks,500 rounds per brick,10 boxes of 50 rounds of the 22LR. I paid $20.00 for the lot. In 2015 I was getting to the point of having to purchase more .22LR Ammo. I could not believe that the .22LR Ammo was not easily obtained, and the ridiculous prices.I refuse to pay the ridiculous prices for 22LR. Ammo. There are people who hoard .22 LR Ammo. If this Ammo is not stored properly, the primers can and will go bad. I didn't hoard the 25,000 rounds of the .22LR Ammo that I purchased at an estate sale. I sold over half to my friends at the actual price I paid. No profit made!!. My children and grandchildren shot the rest.
@journeyquest1
@journeyquest1 2 года назад
I powder coat and then resize to remove the powder coat.
@denniswilliams5402
@denniswilliams5402 Год назад
12-15-22. If i want to wind up with .358 bullets do i use a .357 mold and powdercoat and size to .358. Or do i use a .358 powdercoat and size to .358. Which would be best?
@ammoadam6902
@ammoadam6902 4 года назад
So, if you quench the bullet after powder coating. Especially since you've got your new method you said you do that. Does the powder coat sink into the bullet better still? I know you said after you bake them you go ahead and size. So I'm wondering do you do that bc they're warm? Seems like a trade off bit very interesting..?? 🤔🤔
@gregc1749
@gregc1749 3 года назад
logic would tell u the last step before u load them would be to resize. thats the way ive heard its always been done
@Dwohman
@Dwohman 4 года назад
I size then powder coat and after. Its easier on the coating, and I clean my die every 200 bullets
@robbiekipping1124
@robbiekipping1124 4 года назад
If they load and shoot cool
@mikelwalters6505
@mikelwalters6505 Год назад
Hello Elvis, I'm a novice reloader. When casting your bullets with wheel weights do you add any other metal or not. thanks
@ronaldfutch508
@ronaldfutch508 5 месяцев назад
Around the 380 time, you said the bullet you measured was .370", a 9mm should be around .356" ?
@curtislong1987
@curtislong1987 Год назад
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@Prepare2Survive
@Prepare2Survive 8 лет назад
I size my 9mm to 356 before powder coating them and then to 357 after powder coating. For 223 I size to 224 before coating and 225 after coating. For 300 BLK I size to 308 before coating and 309 after coating. For 38/357 mag I size to 357 before coating and 358 after coating. The 2nd sizing is probably not needed because most of the time they easily push though the sizer after coating them.
@elvisammo
@elvisammo 8 лет назад
hey prepare2survive, yhea that works, I have done some of that myself. my question is why wouldn't you just size to 357 on the 9mm instead of sizing 356 first? on the 223 I like the idea, I just worry that the sizing softens the bullet what are your thoughts on that? and don't tell me OCD ; )
@Prepare2Survive
@Prepare2Survive 8 лет назад
+elvis ammo I used to size the 9mm to 357 at first and then to 358 after coating for my Ruger pistol, but I started going down to 356 followed by 357 after coating because the lone wolf barrel for my glock is tight and I just figured I might as well keep the bullets smaller to avoid any feeding problems or higher pressure. I probably shouldn't worry because the lee factory crimp die makes it work fine regardless. I don't get a lot of resistance pushing through the 223 bullets in the sizer so it probably doesn't effect the internal hardness and probably just the sides a little, but because they are getting powder coated that shouldn't matter. Yesterday I just tested a batch of powder coated 223 bullets sized to 225 without gas checks using IMR 4227 powder and I got a max velocity of 2800 fps with 17.9 grains. The primers didn't look flat and I didn't see any other signs of excessive pressure so I might even be able to go higher, but first I want to test for accuracy up to that point because if I see the accuracy getting progressively worse the faster the bullets go I'll just stop and find the most accurate load below that. When working up a load like this it's probably better to have consistent sized bullets so you wont get fluctuations in pressure.
@elvisammo
@elvisammo 8 лет назад
+Prepare2Survive yhea 357 is about right for these pc bullets. I will probably try that. just to see if there is any difference or benefits. originally I think I changed back to 356 for easier bullet seating, less flair. .. let me know how the new powder works for ya.. I have my eye on that one! I have a 1-8 16" barrel.
@MasterChief0093
@MasterChief0093 5 лет назад
How do you deal with clay pigeons in your range scrap? How do you remove them from the mix? They melt into something terrible
@meesterp
@meesterp 6 лет назад
Have you ever turned that press with the sizing lubricating die in it upside down. Feeds pretty quick. You can put a clear plastic tube on it and feed it over to a bucket and really crank out a pile. The problem though is you're going through nose first. You can go pretty darn fast but the problem I see is when I powder coat or high-tech coat if I go through knows first and I'm running fat it drags coding and lead off the base of the bullet makes like a little apron.
@connergdaniel
@connergdaniel 6 лет назад
that sounds like a good idea
@jungleno.
@jungleno. 5 лет назад
That sounds like a solution to a non-existing problem.
@archangel20031
@archangel20031 3 года назад
September 2020, they are going for about $50 on EBay. The powder is melted onto the surface of the bullet, so it's already one with the bullet, but sizing should not effect it one way or the other. Take a hammer and smash one and you can see that it will conform to the new smooshed shape.
@johnjohnson7576
@johnjohnson7576 3 года назад
I just bought a sizing die on ebay for 31 bucks. It does not come with the liquid alox.
@jimbrady3652
@jimbrady3652 6 лет назад
I think I saw you spray a lubricant on your powder coated bullets before you sized them, what was it?
@independentthinker8930
@independentthinker8930 5 лет назад
If I don't, they won't chamber in my 9. I want to get the lee size kit, faster and easier than my lyman 45 lubesizer
@stonekold
@stonekold 5 лет назад
Did you try Thor's Axe Cast Bullet Lubrication and Rooster Jacket floor wax hack?
@goinglt3
@goinglt3 3 года назад
Thank for all your videos. I use 'em as almost as the reloading bible. I have a off the wall question. I power coated, went great. I bought the Lee Precision - 90046 SIZING DIE KIT .356 now here is the question. After resizing the lead and load them to boolits. Can I use the same die to resize the brass to lessen the "bulge" or do I need to buy to buy the factory crimp die?
@JamesS.254
@JamesS.254 3 года назад
Crimp dies are designed to put a tighter grip from the brass to bullet, they will not take any bulge out as they mostly crimp the very top edge of the brass, maybe only the top 1/16 of an inch or so. Just make sure your brass is properly trimmed and sized with a sizing die before loading the bullets. Too tight of a crimp will give it a fat guy with a tight belt kind of look, like an hourglass. This is no goodies.
@gregoryvanek9038
@gregoryvanek9038 3 года назад
@@JamesS.254 Lee’s Carbide Factory Crimp Die will resize the brass after loading. It will remove bulges.
@JamesS.254
@JamesS.254 3 года назад
@@gregoryvanek9038 After re-reading the original post, I see where I made my mistake. But wouldn't you want to remove the bulge before you load it?
@christopherpeterson1400
@christopherpeterson1400 3 года назад
What about gas checks ? Do powder coat bullets still need gas checks ? Some say no, some say yes?
@edadpops1709
@edadpops1709 7 лет назад
Is there any noticable accuracy difference of cast PC bullets with grease grooves tumble grooves or no grooves? I have some of each? Also can i PC over greese grooves. Or whats the best way toget rid of wax lube, so i can PC.
@djack8139
@djack8139 6 лет назад
Hey elvis ammo im completley new to reloading just invested in a press and all the works to reload. Looks like buying components is almost as much. I have acess to lead and dont want to sound stupid but does powder coating kind of replace fmj and help with leading, would you recomend just jumping into casting or buy premade bullets. Looking for cheapest most affective method. Also does it matter if using pure lead or should i use antamony to harden. Sorry for all the questions
@Silidons91
@Silidons91 6 лет назад
powder coating doesn't really "replace" fmj, but it does help reduce fouling due to lead greatly. you can shoot powder coated lead through a glock barrel without much fouling occurring. hell, some people just shoot their cast lead through the glock barrel without powder coating, but it's not recommended at all. it might be easier at first to just buy bullets, i have had great success with xtreme bullets. i don't cast myself yet, but i believe i am going to start because you save the most money. casting your own is definitely cheaper than buying bullets.
@mitchdickson254
@mitchdickson254 4 года назад
Son, just use a new Lee Mold and you do not need to size or powder coat. Just put some seizing on em and load and shoot! I watched you wearing your barrel out the other day shooting zinc bullets. Zinc is 10 times harder than lead! That is super-duper SHTF last ditch stuff :)
@rocknraptor3195
@rocknraptor3195 3 года назад
ALL barrels are different. Plus he says you don't have to size all rounds several times! Did you watch the video or just not a good listener? Lots of people powder coat bullets too bc it has benefits, that's why we do it. Different powders & molds will produce different diameters. In some cases you will need to size!!!
@TheChero6
@TheChero6 7 лет назад
Mr. Elivs, Plan to cast some of your 160 gr. supersonic blackout. I have checked with FS and Titan reloading and all they have is the 2 cavity moulds. Where did you purchase Lee CTL-312-160-2R?Appreciate your help.
@elvisammo
@elvisammo 7 лет назад
Hey TheChero6.. I get a lot of stuff from Midway USA, Midsouth Shooting and Optic Planet. My Favorite Super is the Lee C 312-155-2R Seems to be my most accurate in my rifle.. The 160 is really good too though! Thanks for watching!
@Adwrigh
@Adwrigh 8 лет назад
Wow there are some great reloading videos! Is there a substantial difference between bullet specific powder coats and the commercial ones?
@elvisammo
@elvisammo 8 лет назад
Hey, Antonio. .. I really don't think there is a difference between commercial polymer and powdercoat as far as performance goes. now when it comes to rifle calibers, reasonable lead hardness still applies for the amount of pressure you put on it. Hope I answered your question? thanks for watching and commenting! !!!
@DonBradway
@DonBradway Год назад
In looking at the Lee catalog, I don't see a press like you're using. What is that press? I don't need a full press set up, I like your setup with the sized bullet going up and in to the container.
@chknlyps2373
@chknlyps2373 Год назад
Look up Lee sizing die kit. It has a die, a punch and the red container it comes in that collects the sized bullets. It fits most single stage presses
@DonBradway
@DonBradway Год назад
@@chknlyps2373 Thank you!
@Pabcio
@Pabcio 5 лет назад
How about .365 Makarov? There is none of resizing die, everything is custom. I read a posts of people says it's OK to shoot "as cast", for example in poligonal barrel in CZ 82. Pressure will rise about 1000 psi which is much lower than I thought, accuracy will suffer a bit, but not much when you are plinking.
@3eightiesopinion524
@3eightiesopinion524 4 года назад
Will you even get leading with polyganal rifling
@Pabcio
@Pabcio 4 года назад
@@3eightiesopinion524 a lot changed from my comment. I started reloading, sometimes I see some smeared dirt in barrel but I am not sure if its lead. My first loads were successful and very accurate.
@3eightiesopinion524
@3eightiesopinion524 4 года назад
@@Pabcio it could be carbon or it could be lead, not sure how to tell. Glad the loads worked. I love my cz's
@robertdonnelly7897
@robertdonnelly7897 3 года назад
What digital measurer is that?
@jimpels5388
@jimpels5388 8 лет назад
do you still use the cast bullet loading recipes or do you use jacketed bullet recipes..great videos .
@elvisammo
@elvisammo 8 лет назад
hey Mr Pels, I lean towards the jacketed data. the only difference is the bullet tolerance itself. this usually only applies to rifle loads. how much pressure they can withstand. ... thanks for watching!
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