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skekVar & skekUng the Skeksis Generals 

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Is skekVar the General also in The Dark Crystal film? Was that skekUng in Netflix's Age of Resistance? Am I the only one confused about this? We'll be looking at these two Skeksis and more on today's episode of The Dark Crystal Conjunction.

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@johnallen6254
@johnallen6254 4 года назад
I did spend the first two episodes thinking he was the same guy actually
@Ysckemia
@Ysckemia 4 года назад
same. then arrived at the last episode, i was confused, i started to think that the whole series was a "reboot prequel" of the movie.
@geegarcia7858
@geegarcia7858 4 года назад
Me too... I found a page online that listed every Skesis & every corresponding Mystics name that goes with it after they split from being UrSkeks. After I saw the titles of each, I kinda put two & two together and realized it was a different dude. He DID KINDA look like a younger version of the one from the movie tho...
@Ysckemia
@Ysckemia 4 года назад
@@geegarcia7858 true. that's why i also thought that the emperor was the same in the series and the movie.
@TheHexeract
@TheHexeract 4 года назад
I thought it was the same guy until the general died.
@carlycrays2831
@carlycrays2831 4 года назад
@@geegarcia7858 They certainly do look sort of similar, but they are a bit different.
@oceanblueheart1472
@oceanblueheart1472 4 года назад
No they aren't the same. Totally two different Skeksis. But you can count on SkekUng will make he's appearance soon & Chamberlain will be on high alert.
@AtaMarKat
@AtaMarKat 4 года назад
“HHMMMmmmm”
@Slaiter130
@Slaiter130 4 года назад
@@AtaMarKat *"I HATE YOUR WHIMPER!"*
@AtaMarKat
@AtaMarKat 4 года назад
Slaiter “MMMMmmmm...”
@Slaiter130
@Slaiter130 4 года назад
@@AtaMarKat *"QUIET!"*
@Rodan727
@Rodan727 4 года назад
Actually they look very similar
@animefan77
@animefan77 4 года назад
SkekUng has more of a hairier mane of hair on his head with prominent side-burns- a very early 19th British type look, his beak is thinner with a hook end. His mouth has fangs peering out in his upper jaw and has sharpened bony brows. His attire seems like organic with the back ridges extending upwards as an intimidation tactic. His personality is also very different from SkekVar- SkekUng seems more aware of the political game than SkekVar ever did and while SkekVar seems to be a proud warrior; SkekUng seems like a badly restrained mad dog who’s surprisingly charismatic amongst his peers; but seems more sadistic and violent than SkekVar.
@tornelysian
@tornelysian 4 года назад
BOLD Gurjin. You mean BOLD Gurjin. 💜
@DarkCrystalConjunction
@DarkCrystalConjunction 4 года назад
;P
@legokiller3579
@legokiller3579 4 года назад
And so he returns to Thra...
@DarkCrystalConjunction
@DarkCrystalConjunction 4 года назад
Yes, the steady stream of comments and subs I kept getting, even when putting out ZERO new content, plus having opportunity to carve out some time now... there was no way I couldn't. Plus, after the new show I had so much to talk about and there still isn't another place with so many great fans on RU-vid so I want to keep this alive. FOR THRA!
@sohft
@sohft 4 года назад
Very happy to see some new vids coming! Feels great to be in thra again.
@andyreacts
@andyreacts 4 года назад
@@DarkCrystalConjunction Most thankful for that!
@Thjorsson
@Thjorsson 4 года назад
This show was way better than I thought it would be. It exceeded all my expectations. Going to do a second marathon watching soon.
@oddthepodling3779
@oddthepodling3779 4 года назад
No, there are two completely different characters.
@houstoncox3070
@houstoncox3070 4 года назад
skekUng was mentioned by the master of ceremonies in episode 9 of age of resistance as a strong warrior. Since chamberlin killed the general in the season finale, it's likely that SkekUng will take the generals place and take command of the garthem in the next season, as well as try to take a seat at the emperors side
@superscaryguy01
@superscaryguy01 4 года назад
In episode 9, they mentioned skekUng by name, and how they should probably summon him along with some other travelling Skeksis to the castle for their war against the gelfling. Not to mention that his facial structure is actually not very similar to that of skekUng upon closer inspection. With that being said, skekVar and skekUng are not at all the same person. At the time skekVar was still alive, skekUng had been away from the castle
@5ecretcode
@5ecretcode 4 года назад
Yeah, I remember this as well and chamberlain was like nooooooooooooooooooooooooo to bringing in more Skeksis lol
@DarkCrystalConjunction
@DarkCrystalConjunction 4 года назад
Yup, nail on the head! (Not in the Heretic manner :P) I should also note you answered that before watching the vid. This is why I love this RU-vid community. By Aughra's eye!
@DarkCrystalConjunction
@DarkCrystalConjunction 4 года назад
@@5ecretcode Ya, he was dealing with enough drama at that moment :D
@superscaryguy01
@superscaryguy01 4 года назад
@@DarkCrystalConjunction Thanks. ;)
@carlycrays2831
@carlycrays2831 4 года назад
It also explains why skekUng didn't know much about the essense in the movie. By the time he comes back to the castle, the other Skeksis will be out.
@TheVeyZ
@TheVeyZ 4 года назад
I also noticed that SkekVar has big teeth on his lower jaw while SkekUng doesn't
@Ozraptor4
@Ozraptor4 4 года назад
Also skekVar's nostrils are positioned on his beak, while skekUng's are behind his beak. Var's upper-teeth are mostly hidden when his mouth is closed, while Ung's are visible as if he is permanently snarling. The top of Var's head is mostly bald (although we only see this when he removes his helmet) while Ung has more hair on his head.
@carlycrays2831
@carlycrays2831 4 года назад
@@Ozraptor4 His face is a bit skinnier too. And he has more hair on his puppet.
@GreaterGrievobeast55
@GreaterGrievobeast55 4 года назад
Now I wanna see a prequel comic of skekung skekvar and skekgra doing stuff together. Two generals and a conquerer! Each one taking on different titles of which include garthim master, ambassador and heretic. I don’t know it seems similar enough to be interesting!
@DarkCrystalConjunction
@DarkCrystalConjunction 4 года назад
I'd sub to that instantly! So much storytelling potential.
@magnus5918
@magnus5918 4 года назад
Doubt it. It is likely that not all Skeksis live in the castle. SkekNa and SkekShod from the movie has not appeared either. It is possible that the 3 missing skeksis lives in a residence somewhere else. There should also be two more skeksis somewhere out there.
@carlycrays2831
@carlycrays2831 4 года назад
This is why everyone is sort of wondering what his role is, why he is away?
@oldaccount546
@oldaccount546 4 года назад
I think the greatest skeksi warrior is Skekmal the hunter. He is the fastest and most active of all of them.
@cockmastaflex6996
@cockmastaflex6996 4 года назад
Plasmazing ' it can’t be, since he is gone later.
@mrgaudy1954
@mrgaudy1954 4 года назад
I mean it’s not really a contest based on what we’ve seen, he could probably take on all of the other Skeksis combined.
@DragonQueen78
@DragonQueen78 4 года назад
SkekUng is my favorite and he better be in season 2! AND HIS VOICE BETTER BE THE SAME!!
@DarkCrystalConjunction
@DarkCrystalConjunction 4 года назад
I HATE YOUR WHIMPER!
@Chocobear555
@Chocobear555 4 года назад
The answer should be blatantly obvious to people if they're truly paying attention.
@pixelmayhem1143
@pixelmayhem1143 4 года назад
Agreed, I fear the attention span of most is sadly lacking these days.
@brycecarroll9665
@brycecarroll9665 4 года назад
I knew the Age of Resistance General was skekVar this whole time and fans were completely wrong that he was skekUng. When season 2 is announced, I look forward to seeing skekUng with Andy Serkis or Clancy Brown providing his loud, commanding voice.
@easygrin1127
@easygrin1127 4 года назад
The original is stil alive i think..
@carlycrays2831
@carlycrays2831 4 года назад
@@easygrin1127 And he has apparently said that he would be happy to return. I guess I would have to hear him to decide which would be best.
@tysargent9647
@tysargent9647 4 года назад
And what about Tim Curry?
@carlycrays2831
@carlycrays2831 4 года назад
@@tysargent9647 He's too old and it's the same problems.
@tysargent9647
@tysargent9647 4 года назад
Then what about Jeffrey Tambor?
@SteadyPeach
@SteadyPeach 4 года назад
Hi, Would you explain in a video why at the end of the series, the Gelfing and Aughra told the Skeksis to retreat back to the castle? I was confused about why they seemed happy with that option since they knew the Skesis would still have control of the crystal and could keep harming and experimenting on it. Thanks!
@autisticautomaton
@autisticautomaton 4 года назад
They thought they could win a war against them. Because while they are considerably stronger 1 to 1 against gelfling and Arathim, they would be 10 against an army of the entire gelfling race. They would likely have no problem winning if not for the Garthim
@romualdcaffeserre6230
@romualdcaffeserre6230 4 года назад
They were expecting a spanking, and spanked them instead, with 3skekses dead. Of course they are happy
@toradora1439
@toradora1439 4 года назад
I never agreed with that decision either, should have finished them when they had the chance, bu that is not the Gelfling way. You have to understand that the Gelfling are innocent and mostly docile and very gentle natured creatures, I would even describe their warriors as "soft". So they assumed the Skeksis would go back to their castle and just remain there and accept their defeat, but as we all know, that is not how the Skeksis are. Atleast thats how I see how and why they made that choice.
@romualdcaffeserre6230
@romualdcaffeserre6230 4 года назад
@@toradora1439 the way i see it, skeses are bigger, stronger and faster than gelfling, so if they decide to run, the gelfling can not hope to outrun them. I mean think about skekmal...that dude was fast af
@toradora1439
@toradora1439 4 года назад
@@romualdcaffeserre6230 Yes, (SPOILER ALERT) but at thr end of AoR the 7 Gelfling tribes, as well as the Aracnids (cant remember their name) and Ahgrah have the chance to destroy almost all of the Skeksis, but opt not to do so. Rather they just allow them to retreat back to their castle and escape.
@sneople
@sneople 4 года назад
Long story short, no. He's a different character. He's mentioned to have been away from the castle during the events of the the series.
@samrizzardi2213
@samrizzardi2213 4 года назад
Here's a question I'd like answered. Aughra clearly distrusts the Skeksis in Creation Myths, but it is established in AOR that she entrusted them with the Crystal. I wonder if this is in reference to the fact that in CM volume 2 Aughra mentions losing her faculties after the crystal cracks: "A hole grows inside of me. I felt the Crystal crack in my very heart. Where once was great knowledge. Like smoke. It slips away." Could the cracking of the crystal have given her Alzheimer's-like symptoms, and she simply forgot that the Skeksis were evil?
@DarkCrystalConjunction
@DarkCrystalConjunction 4 года назад
Creation Myths also makes the point time and time again that there are some things she is blind to. Raunip could see things from a very different perspective, probably cause he was a little more on the malicious side in his younger years. It definitely does seem like Aughra forgets things and especially when distracted by the stars (not to mention when she begins astral projection).
@MrsBestiaAzul
@MrsBestiaAzul 4 года назад
I don't think so, I believe this is just something they (the producers) changer for the sake of the story. It's not true to canon in many, many details. Also, they said the skeksis gave Aughra the observatory, when in fact it was the Urskeks, many many maaaany thrines ago, whey they first appeared.
@boyzing
@boyzing 4 года назад
@@MrsBestiaAzul Aughra also did mention to the skeksis that they arent anything like they were when she entrusted the crystal to them so i wonder if she actually entrusted it to them while they were still urskeks
@MrsBestiaAzul
@MrsBestiaAzul 4 года назад
@@boyzing That's true. She entrusted the crystal to the urskeks! And sure enough, they ate nothing like the skeksis.
@samrizzardi2213
@samrizzardi2213 4 года назад
@@MrsBestiaAzul That is a distortion by the Myth Speaker. SkekGra later clarifies that it was the urSkeks who built the observatory.
@czarinastrough5768
@czarinastrough5768 4 года назад
Thank you for returning with more vids!!!!❤️
@AROBASPARK
@AROBASPARK 4 года назад
What I really want to know is what was skekUng's title during the lifetime of skekVar as General? Thanks to the show, the Garthim didn't exist until after skekVar died and they used Gelfling as Warriors. My believe is he was title the Warrior, based on the conversations the Skeksis have in Ep.8 to call the rest of their number back to the castle, or he took the title of Conqueror after skekGra was banished.
@carlycrays2831
@carlycrays2831 4 года назад
I think it would make more sense to call him the Ambassador. It would explain why he's been away. Plus, as this pointed out, he was still pretty brutal.
@CosplayCore
@CosplayCore 4 года назад
1:22 Gurjin: WHY DOES EVERYONE JUST KEEP CALLING ME "GURJIN"?! /rage quit/ :,D
@ZatoichiBattousai
@ZatoichiBattousai 4 года назад
In the movie, SkekUng is The General in the end credits. This is where most of the confusion comes from.
@DarkCrystalConjunction
@DarkCrystalConjunction 4 года назад
Indeed, I pinned that info here with screenshots. He is also called "General" several times in the film: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-KAgEUYpR_RI.html&lc=Ugyab-Ce6Dh0anhSXYt4AaABAg
@abpeters4832
@abpeters4832 4 года назад
Keep up the videos! I'm so glad to see someone diving into such an underrated Jim Henson classic, and the addition of a new series. Edit: I'd love to see a video on the Heretic and the Wanderer
@kimberlys.8513
@kimberlys.8513 4 года назад
Please talk about The Hunter and The Archer and Augrah as the next topic!!!! I have so many questions. Why did the Archer disappear when falling to his death? Was he going back to Thra? (the skeksis, and by reason the mystics, can’t cause they aren’t part of Thra, but Augrah was involved...) Was that the moment he was reunited as one with the Hunter? How did that happen mid fall? How did their deaths result in Augrah’s rebirth? I haven’t seen these moments talked about. I would also like more info about The Heretic and the Wander’s background, if there is any past what they give in the series. I haven’t read any of the books, so I don’t have info from those sources yet.
@DarkCrystalConjunction
@DarkCrystalConjunction 4 года назад
I got the same questions! With all the works we currently have out there is no newer info, so it would all be conjecture. But we got three new books coming out in November, two specifically on Age of Resistance, so once I get my hands on those I'll be digging for answers. :)
@ShirohebiGirl
@ShirohebiGirl 4 года назад
I got a romantic vibe between archer and aughra, she even called the hunter the most beautiful skeksi
@CharlieCharlieProduxtions
@CharlieCharlieProduxtions 4 года назад
So glad your back! 🤗
@ShadeMeadows
@ShadeMeadows 4 года назад
I wonder what SkekUng's title is... before Garthim Master i mean, "The Warrior"?
@DarkCrystalConjunction
@DarkCrystalConjunction 4 года назад
That is the same question I have now.
@AROBASPARK
@AROBASPARK 4 года назад
I assume the same, but also the Conqueror: taking the title from skekGra following his fall from grace and banishment.
@MrsBestiaAzul
@MrsBestiaAzul 4 года назад
The novelization says that the Garthim Master has been forever the Garthim Master. He's never taken another name, unlike some other skeksis.
@AROBASPARK
@AROBASPARK 4 года назад
@@MrsBestiaAzul How can he be the Garthim Master, if none existed at the time?
@MrsBestiaAzul
@MrsBestiaAzul 4 года назад
The thing is... They were meant to exist way earlier, based on the novel.
@JuanBautista-fx3rh
@JuanBautista-fx3rh 4 года назад
Sir! You never cease to amaze me! It is an authentic privilege to learn this much about Skeksis, Gelflings, Aughra, Thra! Thank you very much and greetings from Mexico City.
@martinlynn4733
@martinlynn4733 4 года назад
I don't think he is as there's also 2 skekis missing in the first series the slave keeper and another one I think the movie general is with them
@magnus5918
@magnus5918 4 года назад
You’re right. skekNa (Slavemaster) and skekShod (Treasurer) from the, movie has yet to appear in the prequel. It’s likely that not all skekSis live in the castle. I believe that skekEkt (Ornamentalist) was not present during the first episodes but arrived later. It’s possible that the 3 missing skeksis from the movie lives in some other residence in Thra.
@martinlynn4733
@martinlynn4733 4 года назад
@@magnus5918 or out traveling thra its possible we see them in series 2 the gathem wars
@magnus5918
@magnus5918 4 года назад
martin lynn Hope so. It would suck if we wouldn’t get to see how they were like.
@DarkCrystalConjunction
@DarkCrystalConjunction 4 года назад
@@martinlynn4733 if season 2 is Garthim Wars then they gotta have the Garthim-Master!
@martinlynn4733
@martinlynn4733 4 года назад
@@DarkCrystalConjunction and thats were the general comes in
@MrBooone
@MrBooone 4 года назад
glad you're making content dude!
@jamiepeterson2230
@jamiepeterson2230 4 года назад
I'm glad your back hope you have everything straightened out now
@misshobbity
@misshobbity 4 года назад
Just found your channel today and I'm so happy to find a source for this wonderful fantasy that has a place in my heart. Really hope you continue to make vids and for the new Netflix prequel perhaps because its hard to find good informative vids. Jim Henson films have always been special to me and its wonderful to see his visions and imaginations embraced. Thank you for the vids look forward to more!
@DarkCrystalConjunction
@DarkCrystalConjunction 4 года назад
I plan to make more. Feel free to check out all the ones I've done,... no shortage of info :)
@notsusan
@notsusan 4 года назад
oh holy shit welcome back dude! This is your time to shine! I just figured the Skeksis were running by Empire Strikes Back rules and every important person is a General by default
@briangudino3424
@briangudino3424 4 года назад
YOUR ALIVE YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS
@neoatlas3364
@neoatlas3364 4 года назад
Dude I'm just glad this channel isn't dead. So nice to have the conjunction back.
@bobkob
@bobkob 4 года назад
And is the Gelfling species aside from Jen & Kira completely extinct ? I wondered because I’ve heard of a ova or something like that featuring an older Jen & Kira ruling over a Gelfling civilization ,but how’d they get all the other Gelflings ?
@DarkCrystalConjunction
@DarkCrystalConjunction 4 года назад
That happens in the sequel, which came out in comic book form. On the timeline, note that it says "Jen & Kira restore the Gelfling across Thra". The comic doesn't show you how they do that (was it Adam and Eve style, cause the film does say Jen is the last of his kind, then surprise, there is Kira!) makes you wonder... I explain that series briefly, with no spoiler here: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-H8Kv63cj_n4.html
@bobkob
@bobkob 4 года назад
The Dark Crystal Conjunction thanks !
@angiederrett6100
@angiederrett6100 4 года назад
I'm glad I'm not the only one wondering this! Thanks for clarifying!
@oyonan
@oyonan 4 года назад
It’s so good to see you return! I always stayed subscribed, because I knew you’d eventually find your way back when you had a bit more time for it. Even if the videos are going to be just you talking to the camera, they would be worthwhile! Nobody does fancy editing like you do, your previous videos were outstanding. However, even if they had to be scaled down, they’re worth making!
@DarkCrystalConjunction
@DarkCrystalConjunction 4 года назад
Truly appreciate it. I am trying to make it work out as best with what I have,... and the perfectionist in me makes me want to keep bumping up the quality, I just gotta make it work with a decade old Mac. :D
@oyonan
@oyonan 4 года назад
The Dark Crystal Conjunction I can definitely feel your perfectionist side coming through. I use a mid-2010 Mac Pro. I’ve given it some upgrades over the years but it’s never given me a bit of trouble. Next thing to upgrade should be a video card that can use metal, but other than that she’s good as gold. I bought it new hoping it would last me ten years like my old mirror drive door G4 tower did. What do you use?
@thoughtfuldevil6069
@thoughtfuldevil6069 4 года назад
I thought it was the same guy until literally just now. TIME FOR A REWATCH! WOOOOOHOOOOOOO!
@Harvey-krishna
@Harvey-krishna 4 года назад
you remind me of ‘the star wars theory.’ Dead informative and well spoken. Thanks for clearing this up 👍🏻
@cynicalbanter
@cynicalbanter 4 года назад
yey! so glad u made a new video! 😸
@Apollomilktea
@Apollomilktea 4 года назад
Welcome back! Keep up the videos finally someone that is getting information right other RU-vid channels in their ending explained say Skekvar is the same as skekUng but I knew it wasn’t and that he will be coming back in the next season which is also false love the videos please don’t stop! Keep it up for Thra!
@natebush8217
@natebush8217 4 года назад
SkekUng is my favorite Skeksis! I can't wait to see him in Season 2! Woohoo! :D
@sparky3574
@sparky3574 4 года назад
Skeung is going tear a part season 2 when he comes.
@AntoMene
@AntoMene 4 года назад
i Found your channel today , i love it
@DarkCrystalConjunction
@DarkCrystalConjunction 4 года назад
Happy to have y'all along!
@DarkCrystalConjunction
@DarkCrystalConjunction 4 года назад
Enjoy exploring Thra with this wonderful RU-vid community.
@Tinrs80
@Tinrs80 4 года назад
The woman skeksis mentions in the throne room to get the others back to the castle.
@pontiacaztec917
@pontiacaztec917 4 года назад
Thanks for sharing love movie it's great that guy's bringing it back!.
@c0l1n_m45
@c0l1n_m45 4 года назад
This confused me so much I thought that he just looked a little different since he had a helmet on for the majority of the show, but when I saw him without it on he looked a lot different. Thanks for clearing this up.
@andyreacts
@andyreacts 4 года назад
Thank you. I was wondering about this. Please keep making videos, at least from time to time.
@DarkCrystalConjunction
@DarkCrystalConjunction 4 года назад
My pleasure. I plan to.
@theprahphet2697
@theprahphet2697 4 года назад
Great vid, with out the brian froud books I would have had a similar thought, keep the vids coming
@tomokogrey7825
@tomokogrey7825 4 года назад
i really want to see skekUng in age of resistance, maybe next season
@DarkCrystalConjunction
@DarkCrystalConjunction 4 года назад
Ya, I'd love to see him in a more warrior type role, dawning some epic battle armor, leading the Garthim! www.deviantart.com/bmacsmith/art/skekUng-The-Garthim-Master-502734417
@PhoenixPhire22
@PhoenixPhire22 4 года назад
Where was SkekUng in this season? He should of been on the show
@tomokogrey7825
@tomokogrey7825 4 года назад
@@PhoenixPhire22 he isnt in season 1, which really sucks as i would have loved to have seen him
@tomokogrey7825
@tomokogrey7825 4 года назад
@@DarkCrystalConjunction and if next season is the garthim wars, then would be the perfect time to introduce him!
@bobkob
@bobkob 4 года назад
Thanks for clearing this up, and great video. - If I may ask, what is the info of the Gruenaks ? did they fight Gelflings in wars and why did the Skeksis exterminate (or try to ) the Gruenaks ?
@DarkCrystalConjunction
@DarkCrystalConjunction 4 года назад
You are very very welcome. I have the same questions about their past, they are completely new from the series, but as you heard they definitely have some history. I hope we get some info on them in the upcoming "A Guide to the Characters of The Dark Crystal: Age of Resistance" dropping in Nov. If we do you can be sure I'll highlight them. They broke my little Gelfling heart :( 💔
@chasformer3091
@chasformer3091 2 года назад
SkekUng will go from Torturer, to General, to Gathim Master, to Emperor. The only Skeksis who had the most development in terms of job title. If there were s season 2, The Emperor would promote SkekUng to general. I can also see SkekUng suspecting that SkekSil had something to do with SkekVars death, but doesn't have any proof. So he will keep is hey on SkekSil, and make sure he doesn't try anything sneaky.
@jordanelza8806
@jordanelza8806 2 месяца назад
Thank you for explaining. Personally, I always knew SkekVar and SkekUng were completely different Skeksis, but I can understand how some fans may be confused. It’s interesting how similar SkekUng is to SkekVar. They are both very (yet fittingly) opposite to their UrRu Counterparts: UrIm the Healer is SkekUng’s counterpart, and SkekVar’s counterpart is UrMa the Peacemaker. It’s interesting that both generals love to shed blood, while their counterparts try to heal and bring peace. Both pairs are a perfect representation of light and dark balance. I know most of the UrRu/Skeksis pairs are very and fittingly opposite, but it’s almost ironic in the case of these two. The only pair that is very opposite but not fittingly so is SkekNa with UrNol. Their counterpart relation is perhaps the most interesting, given that their roles as a Slave Master and an Herb Tender have absolutely nothing to do with each other, opposite or otherwise.
@Funckle73
@Funckle73 4 года назад
Thank you for the clarification
@Gingersnaps_the_pumpkin_kitty
@Gingersnaps_the_pumpkin_kitty 4 года назад
I'm so happy I saw how recent this upload is, I found this channel when I found my fellow dark crystal lovers on RU-vid and I was kinda sad as it seemed like I came across another dead channel I liked.
@DarkCrystalConjunction
@DarkCrystalConjunction 4 года назад
Hey, if they can bring skekMal & Aughra back, then why not this channel!?!? Must be vliyaya. ;P
@Satrina777
@Satrina777 4 года назад
There truly is a channel for everything..
@nathantaylor6759
@nathantaylor6759 4 года назад
I am hoping for a season two of DC: AOR and definitely going that SkekUng will make his appearance then!
@TheTacoBros
@TheTacoBros 2 года назад
there isn't coming an s2 :'(
@justsomeokami8867
@justsomeokami8867 4 года назад
Good to see you back😊 I hope you share your thoughts about the show too
@pyropsycho1977
@pyropsycho1977 4 года назад
1) An army can have more than 1 general. 2) SkekVar is the General while SkekUng is the Cooler General.
@l0necroc
@l0necroc 2 года назад
I love them both
@NerdyBlurbTV
@NerdyBlurbTV 4 года назад
You're back!! Yes!!! Plus this has been a huge question in our house and you have settled a lot of debate. Thank you sir. Not gonna lie, i was the one wrong here... don't tell my wife lol
@DarkCrystalConjunction
@DarkCrystalConjunction 4 года назад
:D
@megamanx8566
@megamanx8566 4 года назад
No it's not the same one eventually he'll show up in season 2 when he becomes the garthim Master
@keadonboze968
@keadonboze968 4 года назад
He’s back!
@jhon1406
@jhon1406 4 года назад
skekUng is mentioned in the show too when they are talking about the 4 Skeksis outside of the caste: skekSa, skekNa, skekUng, + skekLi.
@GemmaSheree
@GemmaSheree 4 года назад
Very helpful, thank you
@vgernyc
@vgernyc 4 года назад
SkekGra must have been the original General as he used to have the title of "Conqueror"
@carlycrays2831
@carlycrays2831 4 года назад
It seems like the Skeksis had multiple Skeksis in military roles, which is why it was so easy to exile skekGra while Skeksis who aren't so easy to replace, like the Scientist, are just sort of beaten into staying. Someone was also probably happy to take his job.
@vgernyc
@vgernyc 4 года назад
Also seems to be a cast system in place. Those who are Keepers of the Crystal and then everyone else and then exiles.
@carlycrays2831
@carlycrays2831 4 года назад
@@vgernyc I'm not sure it's a true caste system so much as it is one based around specific jobs. But yes, I was rather surprised to see such a division between all of the Skeksis.
@dethdealr5709
@dethdealr5709 4 года назад
I legit thought they were the same character, they both had a hatred for SkekSil so . Confusing af but I eventually figured it out .
@JeffKarlKonorNicNack
@JeffKarlKonorNicNack 3 года назад
I like how furry SkekUng is.
@HistoryUnwound
@HistoryUnwound 4 года назад
THANK YOU for explaining to me why everyone got the two confused. To me, they don't look anything alike. I actually heard someone create a theory about how SkekVar will come back from the dead to become emperor in the movie, and I facepalmed so hard.
@Halpin2006
@Halpin2006 4 года назад
To all of you hardcore Muppet fans. Look very close at SkekSil the Chamberlain. Look closely at his facial features. He looks like Grover Monster of Sesame Street, and sounds a lot like Grover too!
@carlycrays2831
@carlycrays2831 4 года назад
I've been thinking about this and given skekUng's size in the movie, that is going to be one massive puppet.
@cosmocosmoton
@cosmocosmoton 4 года назад
I knew it wasn’t SkekUng when the General didn’t put his hands on his hips and grunt. Anyway, great video!
@ThePmbstudios
@ThePmbstudios 4 года назад
It's quite interesting that the skeksis in age of resistance are the political ones than the more violent ones. Hinting that skekung and others like him were banished to make the skeksis look more divine to the gelflings and other 'lesser creatures'. When you think about it skekvar is a glorified security guard for the emperor. That's my opinion.
@alexh6767
@alexh6767 4 года назад
I noticed SkekVar's puppet doesn't look detailed as the rest of the Skeksis. Perhaps because he wasn't going to live into future seasons and he was just a character to build up tension with chamberlain and ultimately to his demise. SkekVar's brutality is setting the bar low and when SkekUng appears, we will probably feel as though killing SkekVar was a bad decision
@juanelorriaga2840
@juanelorriaga2840 11 месяцев назад
What a great show and didn’t go CGI they used puppets.It’s a shame Netflix didn’t go for future installments as they didn’t do as welll as Thry thought.I hope someone gets this show and continue it
@KNSweetness
@KNSweetness 4 года назад
HE'S BACK!!!
@DarkCrystalConjunction
@DarkCrystalConjunction 4 года назад
More facts that didn't make the vid. In the film skekUng is called "General" thrice, (even shown in subtitles.) End credits say "General (Garthim Master), and the callsheet just has "General"! :D Pics: twitter.com/DarkCrystalConj/status/1174690871469588483 Info from @the_darkcrystalproject on Instragram & @NathanTaylor
@vl1006
@vl1006 4 года назад
Question for you...Regarding the original movie, was the puppeteer performer Swee Lim's Mystic character retconned after the movie to then become the Mystic Herbalist named UrNol? Because as I watched the movie credits rolling, I saw the character named "Hunter" under the list of Mystics. [Whaat?? Not a Skeksis?] I researched the performer Swee Lim online... sources all state he was the Herbalist, even though the movie credits show his name next to the character "Hunter". Was there ever a "Mystic Hunter" in supplemental books? Or was it only in the Dark Crystal movie rolling credits? BTW, I thought the Skeksis Hunter character in AoR was fantastic! Just wondering about the name changes from movie to series. Great vid here about the General(s)
@sasailic3006
@sasailic3006 4 года назад
Trivia fact...original Podling and Kira language was Russian or another Eastern European language. Since I know Serbo-Croatian I could understand Kira saying "sit" and "be good" to the Fizzgig. As well as "Thank you" at the Podling tavern. The show, however, uses some gibberish.
@nathantaylor6759
@nathantaylor6759 4 года назад
During the Trial by Stone scene the Skeksis in the background can be heard referring to SkekUng as "general". "General's really mad now" and SkekAyuk says something like "The general's the champion!".
@DarkCrystalConjunction
@DarkCrystalConjunction 4 года назад
@@vl1006 That is the only place that urRu is listed as "Hunter", they changed it to "Herbalist" as they felt the prior name was too aggressive for an urRu. (That info via @the_darkcrystalproject as well)
@anubiswitch4172
@anubiswitch4172 4 года назад
Maybe do a character lore of skekmal? He's my favorite UuU
@Wyrmwould
@Wyrmwould 4 года назад
You asked about the feathers (or whatever they are) moving on their backs. In the film, when the Chamberlain is disrobed, there is a quick shot of him where you can see little arms curled up on his back. Even though the Skeksis don't seem to use their secondary arms (except for the Hunter), perhaps their costumes are constructed in a way that permits their secondary arms to manipulate them. Maybe those little arms pull handles and cause the costumes to move like a peacock's tail feathers.
@DarkCrystalConjunction
@DarkCrystalConjunction 4 года назад
Ya, that very well could be. It is mentioned elsewhere that since they kept decorating themselves with more and more robes they made their other pair of arms atrophy, basically. The hunter could care less about that and he obliviously stays in better shape and dresses more practically for THE HUNT! Also, if you look at Creation Myths you can see young Skeksis with all arms nice and limber.
@Lordoftheapes79
@Lordoftheapes79 4 года назад
They definitely left things like this for future seasons. I suspect this will be a 3-5 season show.
@jonathandye5923
@jonathandye5923 4 года назад
I think it very big of u to admit your mistake. I also got confused. Great video.
@koolgool
@koolgool 4 года назад
I at first thought they must have been different skeksis, but then just thought there was a poor execution with its design or something, because I remember the general being a little less oafish in the movie. It made for an interesting subversion in the show, though, when the general meets his fate. Didn’t see it coming, but realized I must have been right the first time: it’s a different skeksis.
@raxelleon8189
@raxelleon8189 4 года назад
This is actually very reassuring because I was both confused and disappointed by how different the General is in the Netflix series. I'm glad they're not the same person because IMO SkekUng is much scarier than SkekVar.
@DarkCrystalConjunction
@DarkCrystalConjunction 4 года назад
Ya, SkekVar is just a shadow of, what the true brute, SkekUng is!
@ashiraecho2039
@ashiraecho2039 4 года назад
Thank you! I was so confused. I was afraid the series broke cannon.
@SkepticalChris
@SkepticalChris 4 года назад
I think it was a good reason not to use SkekUng, and introduce SkekVar first, because essentially the two skeksis perform similar functions. They are more brute force advisers to the Emperor and it would also give the SkekUng a reason to return to the castle in Season 2 to replace SkekVar. Interestingly enough, this could also work for SkekShod, the Treasurer, and SkekLach the Collector. SkekLach essentially fulfilled the same function as SkekShod. SkekLach was responsible for keeping track of the tithes collected, and it would only seem logical that a Treasurer would perform a very similar function, so again, you would have two skeksis doing the same role, making it redundant. And because SkekLach and SkekVar were not seen in the original film, it was wise of them to introduce them first. Interestingly enough they were also the two skeksis to be killed in Age of Resistance, giving SkekShod and SkekUng reasons to be introduced in Season 2.
@freemanlane
@freemanlane 4 года назад
I was wondering the same thing since I saw the first trailer
@Helbore
@Helbore 4 года назад
I really had no idea there was so much material surrounding The Dark Crystal. I loved the film back when I was a child in the 80s, but I hadn't seen it for years and thought that was all there was. I watched it again after watching the TV show and was surprised as to how barebones the lore was. I don't think they even called the planet Thra once. Time was all stated in years. The Skeksis only seemed to have titles and no names. So I thought they'd gone and made all the rest up for the TV show. THEN I find videos like this and find out there's tons of supplementary material out there! Characters like Gurjin AREN'T original to the TV show? Are all the characters in the show from existing books/comics/etc?
@DarkCrystalConjunction
@DarkCrystalConjunction 4 года назад
Ya, Thra & Skeksis names are first mentioned in the Novelization that came out around the film. I tackle some of these questions in my trivia playlist: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-R9VzIJWZTPw.html Ya, and check out all the other playlist, especially the lore ones to learn lots more. The Netflix shows uses a lot of what was already out before and added so much more. Love it!
@Helbore
@Helbore 4 года назад
@@DarkCrystalConjunction Thanks, I will be ploughing my way through them all!
@PredatorAlienate
@PredatorAlienate 4 года назад
SkekUng is orders of magnitude cooler than skekVar, who seems clueless and careless by comparison. Even Emperor skekSo may find it rather difficult to intimidate the future Garthim Master. SkekUng is fiercely vigilant, whereas skekVar is too often oblivious in his bluster.
@MiyuSawai
@MiyuSawai 4 года назад
Skeksis and the their Mystic/UrRu counterparts: SkekSo the Emperor/UrSu the Master, Skeksil the Chamberlain/UrSol the Chanter, SkekUng the Garthim Master/UrIm the Healer, SkekZok the Ritual Master/UrZah the Ritual Guardian, SkekMal the Hunter/UrVa the Archer, SkekTek the Scientist/UrTih the Alchemist, SkekShod the Treasurer/UrYod the Numerologist, SkekOk the Scroll Keeper/UrAc the Scribe, SkekNa the Slave Master/UrNol the Herbalist, SkekAyuk the Gourmand/UrAmaj the Cook, SkekEkt the Ornamentlist/UrUtt the Weaver, SkekLach the Collector/UrSen the Monk, SkekVar the General/UrMa the Peacemaker, SkeGra the Conqueror/UrGoh the Wanderer/Heretic, SkekLi the Satirist/UrLii the Storyteller, SkekHak/UrHom the Carpenter, SkekSa the Mariner/UrSan the Swimmer, SkekYi/UrYa
@darlingjewel6938
@darlingjewel6938 4 года назад
Watch the last episode to answer the question.
@RedwoodTheElf
@RedwoodTheElf 4 года назад
The thing that raises up on their back when they're wearing their heavy robes or armor is their second set of arms. Unlike the Mystics (The UrDu) the Skeksis' secondary arms are smaller and somewhat weaker, and only the Hunter really uses them on a regular basis.
@DarkCrystalConjunction
@DarkCrystalConjunction 4 года назад
I'll have to look at that closer,... looks like several pieces (more than two more arms) raise... hm,.... but I could definitely see that those play a part.
@lordseelenfresserdemonking1168
@lordseelenfresserdemonking1168 4 года назад
I like skekvar more cause he looks way better then skekung
@metromelody18
@metromelody18 4 года назад
They aren’t the same because they clearly said in the show that skekung is away. Also garthim aren’t there till later
@Stray940
@Stray940 4 года назад
I'd suggest the rising along the backs of the Skeksis when angered are probably there quills rising beneath there clothes, I seem to recall the chamberlain had a row of them along his back and shoulders when he was disrobed.
@DarkCrystalConjunction
@DarkCrystalConjunction 4 года назад
Ah good point, he did, ya I could see that. Definitely something akin to when animals make themselves look bigger to be more threatening.
@ziljin
@ziljin 4 года назад
I thought you quit youtube, but good video.
@DarkCrystalConjunction
@DarkCrystalConjunction 4 года назад
I did, didn't think I could come back but I am now able to carve out some time.
@dragongamer2670
@dragongamer2670 4 года назад
Would be Cool if they did a Sequel to the First Film where the Gelflings become corrupt from the power of the crystal and have been watching over it for years and have the Skeksis come back as the Good Guys. Would be interesting to see what they looked like not corrupted. Just something for Hensons to think on and seeing the Gelflings evil forms would be really cool to see.
@anthonyrose2496
@anthonyrose2496 4 года назад
I believe the Emperor even mentioned SkekUng by name about him being away and returning to the castle.
@DarkCrystalConjunction
@DarkCrystalConjunction 4 года назад
I talk about that @ 6:14
@Faramous
@Faramous 4 года назад
Glad I found your channel. Finished the show and have a serious void to fill. You showed a model during the video. Where is that from? I’m looking to start a Dark Crystals collection.
@DarkCrystalConjunction
@DarkCrystalConjunction 4 года назад
What is the time mark? There are some out from Weta Workshop now,... I will actually talk more about them in the news round up that will either come out later today or early tomorrow.
@Firstborn0Raz
@Firstborn0Raz 4 года назад
One day you should do a video about the Urskeks and why they ended up split apart.
@DarkCrystalConjunction
@DarkCrystalConjunction 4 года назад
I will get to that point in Thra's history soon. I up to Raunip so almost there.
@yidneth
@yidneth 4 года назад
I was confused until realizing htye're not the same... It was a plot twist I didn't expect because I wasn't aware during the series they were not the same general I was all the time ohhh that will be the future emperor.
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