Tony tried to seem neutral, until Daniel squeezed the biases out of him. Tony tried so hard to fight his moral compass. Why do these people delude them self so much, I would never understand
Truly can’t wrap my head around how living in such a world of contradiction and hypocrisy is even tolerable. It must take a toll on their mental health.
@@keyboardmouse7699 Their media lie to them and they lie to themselves "covering the truth" you'd be surprised at how many humies do that. cognitive dissonance in a nutshell.
@@homtanks7259 one of the pillars of Eman (Faith) is to believe in all the prophets of God, so Israel is one of the prophets that’s why you have to respect it unless if you don’t believe in this prophet, then you don’t believe in Islam!!
Glad this tony guy has been finally exposed. Funny how this subject has done that to many people. Imagine arguing the occupier is the victim, that the oppresser is bullied by the oppressed. My toaster than you tony!
Tony intellectually is not capable to keep up the conversation. He just changes the topic and he gets destroyed everytime. As soon as he said Statue of limitation he realized he was done. If you can tell the truth because of your partner, why are you here?
It is not difficult to understand why the western governments, who are themselves pioneers of imperialism, colonization, ethnic cleansing and apartheid rush to support a similar regime. That is because they share similar ‘values’.
@@blingcicero6570 yea of course, what's your point? Since we live in the present I would suggest to condemn death and misery TODAY which comes with imperialism. Since we haven't invented a time machine.
Tony in his quest to void his arguments of emotion ends up voiding them of moral logic and common sense - historic injustices, genocide, and ethnic cleansing are legitimate causes for military aggression and de facto creates a state of war - in which Hamas are military, not terrorist actors
His moral logic is sound. On an individual level, it is impossible to justify the actions taken by Hamas on 7th oct. Every serial killer, every pedophile, every psychopath in the world would be given more lenient prison sentences if their actions were contextualised by their backgrounds and upbringing and hardships in life. While this might be true in explaining things, society still ultimately holds people individually responsible for their actions. Same applies in this case.
How can the world close their eyes when they see Palestinian lands have been taken away and they have been kicked out from their own land and they are put under an open prison? How can the world allow such atrocities and support it? Has humanity died? When the native people fight for their land they are called Terrorists! Remember, every tyranny had a brutal end. One day...
Tony, Liberte, Egerlite (France), Give me life or give me death (America). Finally, oppression is worse than killing. Palestinians are oppressed; some are in refugee camps outside Palestine. Many many are niw citizens of Jordan, Lenanon, Kuwait, Egypt, Tunisia, etc even Nigeria. Suffering for 75 years is a greater horror.
Increasingly, the West's double standards are becoming more apparent. Individuals often unwittingly depend on biased media outlets and government sources for information, which is not entirely their fault. However, we can assist in illuminating reality by presenting factual information. When engaging in discussions, it is crucial to approach the interaction with empathy and understanding in order to foster constructive dialogue that leads to mutual understanding and growth
May Allah (SWT) aid the 50,000 (as of the day before yesterday) pregnant women to be able to deliver in safety their innocent babies.. Ameen. 'Then your hearts hardened after that, so that they were like rocks, rather worse in hardness; and surely there are some rocks from which streams burst forth, and there are some of them which split asunder so water issues out of them, and there are some of them which fall down for fear of Allah, and Allah is not at all heedless of what you do.' The Noble Quran: Sura al-Baqarah, 2:74
Ah, the quintessential middleman, the one who is actually the worst yet strives to present a facade of moral equilibrium. Despite their adverse actions or motives, they craftily position themselves as the voice of reason or the balanced mediator, attempting to veil their true nature under a guise of ethical moderation. Their efforts to appear morally sound often belies an underlying agenda, making their stance not only disingenuous but potentially more harmful as it's veiled in a cloak of impartiality. Through this facade, they seek to gain trust and avoid scrutiny, all while perpetuating their self-serving objectives under a veneer of moral balance.
Brother Daniel calmly and eloquently destroyed his arguments with great anologies. May God bless Daniel and give him strength to continue to defend the oppressed.
Oh I forgot he is the chap who is jealous of Muslims because of their certainty in Allah (SWT)... This is the legacy that comes from the knowledge in the early years of anything except that Allah is Ahad......
I thought I came here to watch an academic debate, but it turns out to be a comedic show and the guy in white surely a great comidian. Where can I watch his stand out comedic show next?
Of all things, I like this Tony guy. He is a gentleman, who is in a moral quandary between choosing the side of his wife vs his moral conscious. May Allah guide him.
Nah, he’s a spineless coward who’s afraid of his zionist, ethnic-cleansing supporting wife, and trying to do mental gymnastics so that he doesn’t seem like a biased supporter of criminals, while very “compassionately” and “thoughtfully” calling the victims of settler-colonialist violence “mad dogs”, all so that the coward isn’t made to sleep on the sofa by his wife.
Just read this excerpt to understand "the level of malicious intent" even before israel was formed: (Excerpt From "Going Solo" , chapter entitled "Palestine and Syria" the memoirs of Roald Dahl, Who was in the RAF during WW 2. Just read his interaction with a Jewish refugee, and see what they intended from the very beginning. By the way, this man was allowed by a Palestinian to live on his land): The man and I sat down on stools at a plain table. There was a loaf of what looked like home-baked bread on the table, and a knife. ‘You seem surprised to find us here,’ the man said. ‘I am,’ I said. ‘I wasn’t expecting to find anyone.’ ‘We are everywhere,’ the man said. ‘We are all over the country.’ ‘Forgive me,’ I said, ‘but I don’t understand. Who do you mean by we?’ ‘Jewish refugees.’ I really didn’t know what he was talking about. I had been living in East Africa for the past two years and in those times the British colonies were parochial and isolated. The local newspaper, which was all we got to read, had not mentioned anything about Hitler’s persecution of the Jews in 1938 and 1939. Nor did I have the faintest idea that the greatest mass murder in the history of the world was actually taking place in Germany at that moment. ‘Is this your land?’ I asked him. ‘Not yet,’ he said. ‘You mean you are hoping to buy it?’ He looked at me in silence for a while. Then he said, ‘The land is at present owned by a Palestinian farmer but he has given us permission to live here. He has also allowed us some fields so that we can grow our own food.’ ‘So where do you go from here?’ I asked him. ‘You and all your orphans?’ ‘We don’t go anywhere,’ he said, smiling through his black beard. ‘We stay here.’ ‘Then you will all become Palestinians,’ I said. ‘Or perhaps you are that already.’ He smiled again, presumably at the naïvety of my questions. ‘No,’ the man said, ‘I do not think we will become Palestinians.’ ‘Then what will you do?’ ‘You are a young man who is flying aeroplanes,’ he said, ‘and I do not expect you to understand our problems.’ ‘What problems?’ I asked him. The young woman put two mugs of coffee on the table as well as a tin of condensed milk that had two holes punctured in the top. The man dripped some milk from the tin into my mug and stirred it for me with the only spoon. He did the same for his own coffee and then took a sip. ‘You have a country to live in and it is called England,’ he said. ‘Therefore you have no problems.’ ‘No problems!’ I cried. ‘England is fighting for her life all by herself against virtually the whole of Europe! We’re even fighting the Vichy French and that’s why we’re in Palestine right now! Oh, we’ve got problems all right!’ I was getting rather worked up. I resented the fact that this man sitting in his fig grove said that I had no problems when I was getting shot at every day. ‘I’ve got problems myself’, I said, ‘in just trying to stay alive.’ ‘That is a very small problem,’ the man said. ‘Ours is much bigger.’ I was flabbergasted by what he was saying. He didn’t seem to care one bit about the war we were fighting. He appeared to be totally absorbed in something he called ‘his problem’ and I couldn’t for the life of me make it out. ‘Don’t you care whether we beat Hitler or not?’ I asked him. ‘Of course I care. It is essential that Hitler be defeated. But that is only a matter of months and years. Historically, it will be a very short battle. Also it happens to be England’s battle. It is not mine. My battle is one that has been going on since the time of Christ.’ ‘I am not with you at all,’ I said. I was beginning to wonder whether he was some sort of a nut. He seemed to have a war of his own going on which was quite different to ours. I still have a very clear picture of the inside of that hut and of the bearded man with the bright fiery eyes who kept talking to me in riddles. ‘We need a homeland,’ the man was saying. ‘We need a country of our own. Even the Zulus have Zululand. But we have nothing.’ ‘You mean the Jews have no country?’ ‘That’s exactly what I mean,’ he said. ‘It’s time we had one.’ ‘But how in the world are you going to get yourselves a country?’ I asked him. ‘They are all occupied. Norway belongs to the Norwegians and Nicaragua belongs to the Nicaraguans. It’s the same all over.’ ‘We shall see,’ the man said, sipping his coffee. The dark-haired woman was washing up some plates in a basin of water on another small table and she had her back to us. ‘You could have Germany,’ I said brightly. ‘When we have beaten Hitler then perhaps England would give you Germany.’ ‘We don’t want Germany,’ the man said. ‘Then which country did you have in mind?’ I asked him, displaying more ignorance than ever. ‘If you want something badly enough,’ he said, ‘and if you need something badly enough, you can always get it.’ He stood up and slapped me on the back. ‘You have a lot to learn,’ he said. ‘But you are a good boy. You are fighting for freedom. So am I.’ He led me out of the hut and through the grove of fig trees that were covered with small unripe fruit, and all the children were still clustered around my Hurricane, gazing at it in absolute wonder. I had bought another Zeiss camera in Cairo to replace the one lost in Greece, and I stopped and took a quick photograph of some of the children around the plane. The bearded man gently made a path through the throng of youngsters, tousling the hair of several of them in an affectionate way as he went by and smiling at them all. Then he shook my hand once again and said, ‘Do not think we are not grateful. You are doing a fine job. I wish you luck.’ ‘You too,’ I said and I climbed into the cockpit and started the engine. I flew back to Haifa and reported that the landing strip seemed quite serviceable and that there were lots of children for the pilots to play with should we ever have to go there. Three days later, the Ju 88s began bombing Haifa in earnest so we flew our Hurricanes out to the cornfield and a large tent was put up in the fig grove for us to live in. We were only there for a few days and we got on fine with the children, but the tall bearded man, when confronted with so many of us, seemed to close up completely and became very distant. He never spoke intimately to me again as he had done on our first meeting, nor did he have much to say to anyone else. The name of that tiny settlement of Jewish orphans was Ramat David. It is written in my Log Book. Whether or not anything exists on the site today I do not know. The only name close to it I can find in my atlas is Ramat Dawid, but that is not the same place. It is too far south.
That's right, the policies of WW2 Germany were policies of the state, ergo legal from their perspectives. Also the current persecution of Muslims in France is state sanctioned. Two examples that objective observers can clearly see. Also the 'Right of return' can be exercised by people that have never laid eyes on the Holy land whereas those that even have deeds to property in occupied areas are prohibited from that right.
Tony is a pseudo wannabe intellectual. He's not genuine and basically anything that's Islamic or Muslim he sees that being wrong. When someone says its complicated they're talking rubbish
32:11Disingeous actor. He knew whats up but he just didnt want to admit it. He didnt want Palestinians (and the Muslims rep by Daniel) to be on the right.
How do you expect these people to care when they ignored all of those native American men who died alone, while the women from their own communities were taught that their men were weak?… I’m pretty sure there was a lot of men who are being told that everything was gonna be OK ….
Why? Non Muslims watch and find Daniel’s lack of morals hugely alarming. He basically admits he would have executed innocent unarmed people on 7th oct. And this a man of god?!?
Colonization and decolonisation are armed struggles only that, colonizations is oppression and decolonization is liberation from oppression.Decolonization is a right when colonizations occur
actually that is good point, why do you(settlers) bring ur kids to the active war-zone... how is this even human action from responsible, sane parent? good point from Daniel
How easy to spout sweet ideas when you at a park surounded by green trees in a suny day, let's see you in a battle field tony then let's hear your wonderful ideas again.
The guy turned into a pretzel trying everything he can to sound "neutral" for the sake of not condemning the apartheid state of Israel's horrific actions
11:42 If it takes 1 hour to cook a batch of cookies and the cookie monster has 15 ovens working 24 hours a day every day for 5 years, how long does it take the cookie monster to make 6000000 batches of cookies?
20:30 How arrogant... how about the fact that Daniel is somehow managing to hang in there with someone who clearly cannot see the wood for the trees... Daniel should have left by now but he is a visitor and doesn't know how disingenuous this chap is...
