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Skyrim Got A NEW UPDATE? Payed Mods! Ruined Mods for 2024 Again!? 

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@SkyrimExplorer
@SkyrimExplorer 4 месяца назад
The main advantage of SE version is that it is the 64bit application what means that it can access to much much more memory than 2GB that LE can. If also has better performance in most locations compared to LE. I personally stick to the last version of SE before they started doing constant AE updates (1.5.97) and I'm all set.
@crazyjamez2360
@crazyjamez2360 4 месяца назад
That’s awesome and very good to know the details of exactly what has improved, but I must say did you know there are mods that can tweak how memory and improve performance to that of the SE version?
@SkyrimExplorer
@SkyrimExplorer 4 месяца назад
@@crazyjamez2360 When I was still playing the LE I remember mod improving memory usage but for 32bit app the hard limit is still 2 or - if you try very hard - 3GB. Getting closer to that limit will crash the game. So 64bit app having access to ALL system memory out of the box is much harder to crash unless you are modding very badly. [Edit] Unless my knowledge is outdated to a few years back.
@crazyjamez2360
@crazyjamez2360 4 месяца назад
@@SkyrimExplorer indeed most folks don’t have time to learn how to properly mod. however I don’t really need more than 4gb worth or even less to be happy since I figured out work arounds. you can do a lot with third party applications I have three currently that allow higher memory and performance than normal however there are quite tricky to get running properly took me around a year to set it up properly. 🤣😅
@SkyrimExplorer
@SkyrimExplorer 4 месяца назад
@@crazyjamez2360 So my knowledge is not quite up do date as for memory usage. There are mods requiring lots of memory, for example Beyond Skyrim Cyrodil and from what I know there will not be a LE version of this mod once it comes out (there is just a Bruma demo for LE). I value my time so if I have one less problem to solve, like memory usage, I prefer simpler solutions, like SE. Btw I think that Skyrim deserved 64bit version. But what's happening now with all those updates is insanity. I play with steam set to offline not worrying about updates.
@crazyjamez2360
@crazyjamez2360 4 месяца назад
@@SkyrimExplorer very valid points. Too me personally I might switch just to play it unless of course someone makes a port which there are so many people that still use LE so I look for someone to actually do it eventually XD.
@jimcalhoun361
@jimcalhoun361 4 месяца назад
I am not updating past 1.6.640. Generally every mod through that (in SE) still works. I moved from LE to SE from pure laziness, having gotten tired of all the work involved to get the older game to run on newer systems. I survived the modpocalypse of 2019 with minimal problems and technically AE is not a new version, just another bug fix patch with some added content (useless content IMHO). All of that said, 1.6.1130 was just a step too far. Beth said that it wouldn't be another modpocalypse, that only a handful of mods would be effected. And they were right it only broke the ones that a huge number of other mods depend on and whose authors have left the modding community. Just losing SkyUI busted over 25% of my non-graphics mods.
@crazyjamez2360
@crazyjamez2360 4 месяца назад
Yep and that’s why me personally I’m sticking with LE no broken mods for me plz XD
@PowerfulRift
@PowerfulRift 4 месяца назад
They won’t even let us disable creation club content on console.
@crazyjamez2360
@crazyjamez2360 4 месяца назад
I’m aware it really sucks that they are doing that.
@thedarkdojo5115
@thedarkdojo5115 10 дней назад
Won't even let us play on consoles, without updating... Edit: I STILL CANNOT PLAY because I refuse to update it, it's frustrating...
@paran0ia7
@paran0ia7 3 месяца назад
I'd barely touched the game again since the initial release until very recently, and yeah it's a bit of a headache to get set up these days. SE definitely seems to be the optimal version; at least for all the (relatively tame, mostly just QoL) mods that interest me personally. Basically every one I remember using has been ported up to it in some capacity, and quite a few that claim to be specifically for AE seem to work just fine too. Mod-loaders have gotten SO much better though, so that really helps as well.
@dwarflord420
@dwarflord420 4 месяца назад
Technically 8 if count the very special edition for Amazon Alexa.
@crazyjamez2360
@crazyjamez2360 4 месяца назад
🤣 yeah I actually forgot about that one.
@dwarflord420
@dwarflord420 4 месяца назад
​@@crazyjamez2360Regarding memory optimization and engine proformance,I'm a part of the software development community. Let's just say some of us feel that if zenimax/bethesda want to treat LE like abandonware (it's not,technically,but ticks alot of the boxes) is them giving us in the dev community carte blanche to,say create a fork of OpenMW use it as a framework and build a new Open Source Engine port for LE. I promise nothing,but give it a couple years.
@stephenriggs8177
@stephenriggs8177 3 месяца назад
Fortunately, I'm playing the VR version, which Bethesda never touches.
@Halobro747
@Halobro747 3 месяца назад
Can’t even load the mod page on Xbox without resetting reserved space and all downloaded mods. When I then go to re-download the mods it eventually causes the game to crash and now it won’t even open
@crazyjamez2360
@crazyjamez2360 3 месяца назад
Sounds rough man dang
@luckyrelic
@luckyrelic 4 месяца назад
sorry to say, but this is somewhat a misleading video... LE advantages: - yes it is no longer going to be updated again by Beth; which means DLL/skse based mods are safe from being ruined - ENB feels superior compared to SE/AE variants SE/AE advantages: - more stable, and as the first poster said, it uses 64bit windows so u can have more than 2gigs of system memory - i know u can merge mods in LE, but the espl/esl system is symply a QOL that allows you to have 1k+ STABLE plugin load orders... - superior mod selection: Precision, MCO, combat overhaul mods, OAR(yes i know there is DAR in LE, but OAR is simply superior in every way), community shaders, light limit fix, wheeler(i know LE has a wheelmenu, but wheeler is superior to it in every way) yes i know u can circumvent the forced updates for SE and their are alot of guides on how to do it. as long as you run the game with the script extender and have the game not auto update on steam, you should be good to go for SE...
@crazyjamez2360
@crazyjamez2360 4 месяца назад
Well it is my opinion after all it is a rant, and not miss leading considering I show my sources, and literally show my modded game. If your opinion differs that’s totally fine everyone is in titled to their own opinion.
@luckyrelic
@luckyrelic 4 месяца назад
@@crazyjamez2360 which is why i said somewhat misleading... specifically the part where LE is more stable.. i didn't say it was all a lie you just said..
@crazyjamez2360
@crazyjamez2360 4 месяца назад
@@luckyrelic opinion isn’t misleading its a opinion meaning something that can change from a person point of view like rn you think it’s misleading when in reality it isn’t at all???? And LE actually is hence why they are still needing to update because they have made it unstable over the years. Which when I said more stable I was comparing the two games without mods at all. Ik from hours of testing both versions and I found LE to be far more stable. Don’t believe me you can test it yourself if you like too.
@SkyrimExplorer
@SkyrimExplorer 4 месяца назад
@@crazyjamez2360 Current updates of SE(AE) are not because over the years they bugged the game, but because since AE came out they started tinkering with creation content, eventually converting list of those creations to 'Creations' menu and the bugs in it are the main reason of recent updates. The last official version of SE was released in 2019 I think. And then in 2021 AE madness started and all the mess with updates.
@crazyjamez2360
@crazyjamez2360 4 месяца назад
@@SkyrimExplorer exactly my point over many years they have been doing this and it’s getting extremely stupid with all the different versions and updates since they started doing this update crap.
@user-wr6dj4ib9o
@user-wr6dj4ib9o 4 месяца назад
you forgot alexa skyrim
@brialapoint2608
@brialapoint2608 4 месяца назад
I bought skyrim three times. The gsme was scratched and old after years of playing.
@brialapoint2608
@brialapoint2608 4 месяца назад
I also bought the vr skyrim for ps4 it was worth it. Hard but fun
@montymartin2932
@montymartin2932 4 месяца назад
So glad that I have OG Skyrim
@Arasteele
@Arasteele 4 месяца назад
People who bought this game more than once really baffle me. I bought the original Skyrim and that's it. I got a free upgrade from Steam a few years back which I put off installing until about 2023, then played it for a while before seeing the AE on sale for $13 on Steam... so I bought it on a "what the hell" just to see what's different. In all those years I don't feel like I missed out. The rest of the iterations of the game were just blatant cash grabs.
@crazyjamez2360
@crazyjamez2360 4 месяца назад
Yeah the new “dlcs” aren’t really official dlc they are just creation club packed into one pretty package. The base game and official dlcs are the exact same just one has modded weapons, armor, houses, and items and the other is just regular that’s the only difference and it’s sad.
@gigasoftgaming
@gigasoftgaming 4 месяца назад
If you have le on pc it was a free upgrade to pc Also le is still 32 bit so yes, way more crashes when you have lots of mods
@crazyjamez2360
@crazyjamez2360 4 месяца назад
Only if you mod it wrong and don’t know what your doing. I can indeed confidently say that. Also LE being free only if you pirate it. It has never been completely free to my knowledge sadly enough.
@gigasoftgaming
@gigasoftgaming 4 месяца назад
@@crazyjamez2360 I meant SE was a free upgrade from le, lol sorry sick this morning lol Try open cities in LE with Interesting NPCs and other mods that adds much more NPC's to cities, no matter how good you are, there is more ctd's trust me on this, I been modding since the beginning. One more thing, if your new to Skyrim, I would always get AE because stuff like the Unofficial Skyrim Patch doesn't even get updates no more in SE and can't even download it in SE, no sure about LE / Original Skyrim as I haven't checked in a while but you won't get any more support for it, and that is just 1 mod out of many.
@crazyjamez2360
@crazyjamez2360 4 месяца назад
@@gigasoftgaming interesting might make a video covering those mods cuz yes actually I can run those mods with no crashes. Open cities been a hot minute since I’ve used it cuz I don’t like it much tbh, but I’ll definitely consider it for a video idea would be interesting to see people’s reactions.
@crazyjamez2360
@crazyjamez2360 4 месяца назад
@@gigasoftgaming also you good, and I hope you feel better. Hope it ain’t anything too serious.
@gigasoftgaming
@gigasoftgaming 4 месяца назад
​@@crazyjamez2360 You know, I don't agree with this take, but I like you, you earned my subscription. Thanks for saying that, I think it is laryngitis, drinking lots of hot stuff. :D As for the other point, those mods work by them self but add open cities, it has to run more npc's at once because of open cities. Also, 1 question, how can you not like open cities? I never got that with some people? Anything that takes out loading screens are good, I hope TES 6 doesn't have any loading screens, but I am worried now with Starfield having so much lol I know you need patches but there is a patch for almost all city overhaul's and other mods, so I generally don't understand why you are other people don't like open cities? One more note, it crashes on LE with open cities because of the 32 bit memory thing and no mod author could fix that. I have 1,500 mods ion my game and am working on my own mod pack to release on wabbajack, not sure how it will turn out, but I could not do this on LE.
@Tkohr78
@Tkohr78 4 месяца назад
Any LE user will miss thousends of amazing mods, this mods are impossible on LE, not only because it is 32bit. When someone ask me, what Skyrim should i play, you can be sure, i will never never recommend SkyrimLE. Updates on SkyrimSE/AE are not so problematic how all think, most SKSE mods are now developt with universal compiler, mostly you need only updating SKSE and adress library, and you can block updates from steam too, so this is absolutly no point, to stay on LE. SE/AE is in any way far far more advanced and superior, the only reason to play LE, you have an old 32bit machine, you like crashes, outdated mods, stuttery gameplay and you do not like the dozens of new mods on SE. No offense, its more a joke, but when someone wants to explain, why LE is a good choice, i think he must have something on his mind ^^
@crazyjamez2360
@crazyjamez2360 4 месяца назад
Like I said in the video a lot of the new mods are getting back ported you can look for yourself not just textures, but quests followers and even big fixes LE mod space has actually only gotten more active. While it’s true people on LE will miss out on certain mods but the majority will be or already is on LE. Also to clarify I’m the type of gamer that doesn’t care about new updates unless it’s new official content which Bethesda no longer do cuz none of the dlc was actually made by them this time around. What I meant by basically the same game……… it is just can mod it a little more, and all the major features of the new versions can be modded or already has been modded in the old version. It being 32bit doesn’t matter when you get the same experience, and no one really needs hundreds of mods at a time to drastically change the game to their liking, and I assure you I can a test to that fact, and plan on making mod load out showcases in the future to really show people what LE is capable of doing now.
@crazyjamez2360
@crazyjamez2360 4 месяца назад
Also about the crashes not really much if you know what your doing I have a 84 bit actually and it runs LE better than my old acre that was only 32 to 64bit, and lastly players shouldn’t have to block updates just to enjoy an over decade old game I mean come on you have to see how problematic Bethesda is???
@Tkohr78
@Tkohr78 4 месяца назад
@@crazyjamez2360 Modding on LE is very limited, because you cannot use ESLs, my modlist is not even close to being possible in LE. MCO, true hud, true directional movement, open animation replacer, water for ENB, sky patcher, object swapper, parallax occlusion and parallax material...., the list is endless, any advanced mod that truly change your game to a next level is not on LE, and will never be on LE. Textures, Models, Followers, yes, but modding has far far gone beyond this, and you miss all this amazing absolutly incredible mods when you do not take the step, to go foward in the future ;) it is your choice,. And yes, the game is decade old, and yes dealing with this update shit goes me on my nerv, but i deal with it, because Skyrim is fantastic, the mods are fantastic, and it is a passion to mod and play this game ;)
@crazyjamez2360
@crazyjamez2360 4 месяца назад
@@Tkohr78your correct I can’t run those exact mods but I can make it very similar to yours. Like I said I’ll make a video showing the true extent of LE modding capabilities.
@crazyjamez2360
@crazyjamez2360 4 месяца назад
@@Tkohr78 serious question why do people like those performance heavy mods? I get it looks good but why not use other mods that basically do the same thing with less crashes and frame drops?
@chrispeng5502
@chrispeng5502 4 месяца назад
My most pleasant modding experience comes from Fallout: New Vegas. And what a surprise, as far as I know, it only has one version that all modders work on. I can sit my ass down and play it for a day without any crashes despite its buggy releases. It is still actively modded and no one needs to worry about Bethesda fucks you in the ass and updates this old gem. Ah the peace of mind.
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