Skyrim - The SECRET Plan of the Thalmor? - Elder Scrolls Lore 

My God..... Does this mean Heimskr's preaching/ranting is actually....VALID?!?!?

The notched pick axe is the stone for the throats of the world

Protecting the remaining towers against the thalmor and reactivating the destroyed ones could be an awesome story for the elder scrolls 6.

I can't believe you, Fudgemuppets! You said we were speaking in confidence..

Sounds like an incredibly rich main questline for TES VI, protecting the last tower from the Thalmor

WOW! WOW! WAIT!!!! Wait! I've just understand something: it is because the Thalmor had messed up the tower in Skyrim that Alduin was released from the time loop he was casted into, because if the towers hold the sky and the current situation of the world, they could have an influence on time. Think about it, peoples. Do you remember the prophecy on Alduin's wall? "When misrule takes its place at the eight corners of the world When the Brass Tower walks and Time is reshaped When the thrice-blessed fail and the Red Tower trembles When the Dragonborn Ruler loses his throne, and the White Tower falls When the Snow Tower lies sundered, kingless, bleeding The World-Eater wakes, and the Wheel turns upon the Last Dragonborn." ........................Oh my.

I love how we have such a lore filled world and game to enjoy, that even nearly 6 years after its release we can still discuss theories on faction motives or learn new things about the world

The brass god was meant to be able to shift between realities, and for a while when it was powered by the heart of lorcan, it disappeared for many years before reappearing, so the real brass god may still be in a different dimension, along with the dwemer

I wonder what Paarthanax would do if a Thalmor group came to the Throat of the World?

What if the plot to destoy all these towers is just a deadra, manipulation to break the barrier between the realms so they can gain unlimited power from their worshippers?

Bush did crystal tower

Gonna suck for the Thalmor when destroying all this crap and killing all these people doesn't give them immortality and they end up in The Shivering Isles for their madness,

I would REALLY like this theory to be true, because imagine the possibility of the Thalmor succeeding being the opening of Elder Scrolls 6 with the main character somehow trying to reverse everything through the game!

What if the stone for the snow tower is Parthanaax, so if you killed him the tower is deactivated

Hypothisis: FudgeMuppet is the king of the dominion he's acting like he isn't but really he is reeling you away by making builds and theries but why has he told us there secret of the thalmor? because that's not the secret. under that mask of his is a boney yellow Thalmor.

Sooo talmor wants to become Dwemer v2?

The eye of Magnus could be used as a shortcut to destroying reality. Arcano, the high ranking thalmor from the college of winterhold questline, says that the power to unmake the world is his when he begins messing with the eye. I think that is basically a confirmation that the thalmor want to destroy mortal reality. A side note: what if Alduin was the stone of the snow tower.

"Was the crystal tower an inside job?" HAHAHAHAHAHAHA ooooohhhhh zeitgeist

Sometimes I wish the Elder Scrolls Lore replaced History in schools lol

What if the Dwemer come back to stop the Altmer and it starts a three way war?

I've been waiting for this video!!! The first time I read about the Towers and how they relate to the Thalmor I was blown away. Such an interesting plot/conspiracy and I love how it ties current events to far-back lore.

Holy shit, I truly hate the Thalmor now

It would make sense for there to only be 8 towers, 8 is a very important number in the series, 8 original aedra and when you look at what happens when you achieve "Chim" it is said that you remove the 8 spokes of the wheel and see the truth, perhaps when the towers deactivate you awake the god dream? perhaps it'll be our job to create a new 9th tower in a future game just as tiber septim created a new 9th god in him self as talos(even if there was some mantling with lorkhan and everything with Stormcrown, Zurin Arctus) And I know snow throat's stone is supposed to be "The cave" but maybe the stone is paarthunax, he's been with the tower for centuries and you have a track record of deactivating towers in main quest lines, this would follow the Red Mountain- White Gold trend set by the previous games.

And in the ashes of both factions, one will rise. One to rule the grounds blood used to be spilled on. THE SLOADS... REALLY THO, I HAVE FULL TRUST IN EXTREME SLOAD DOMINATION

If this is true then without doubt, the TES VI would be High Rock

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I really hope the conflict between the empire and thalmor is a big part of the next game, if not the main focus. Feels like we missed out on such an epic moment by hopping right past the last war from TES IV to V. I'd like to see the next one in person.

So IF the snow tower was all of skyrim and the thalmor knew, that can probably explain why they made the white gold concordant so the empire can go to war with the stormcloaks and leave the tower kingless and bleeding.

Will Elder Scrolls VI include a war between the Thalmor and all of Tameriel?

"If the laws of physic no longer apply in the future, God help you." -The Announcer, Portal 2. A fitting for the 14:02 timestamp.

During the mage quests, when you have to find the synod members, paratus decimuis says the following, It was the inspiration for this idea. Instead of projecting the sky, we project all of Tamriel, and then harness the latent energies to overlay the positions of... What's important is that all of this work was designed to reveal to us sources of great magical power. Purely to help safeguard the Empire, of course. And yet, in the end, only two locations have been revealed to us. One is your College. The other... Well, that can only be Labyrinthian." I believe this is tied Into the towers theory. The synod was originally looking for the towers as they are powerful magical sources however the eye of magus interferes with their plan. But even then the eye of magus might be able to help with locating the towers

Theory: the Dwemer are still alive... they all just got super skinny and dumb by their standards, becoming the Thalmor

In my skyrim game the thalmor are all my sex slaves

As cool as this theory sounds. I've read the infernal city, and this theory makes sense too. But the closer we approach elder scrolls VI I fear Bethesda will botch this, or just not use this bit of lore.

I wondered about that. The only places the Thalmor ever seem to focus their attacks on are places within reach of the towers, but it was their interest in the Eye of Magnus and the desire to unmake the world that got me to actually think about it. Nice job digging.

Well let's destroy the last tower in TES 6 so that we can finally get to TES 7: c0da

In case of the 'throat of the world' I see the possibility that Paarthurnax was the Stone. Not by objective reasons but imagine the tragedy of the story. What Esbern did was to force the Dragonborn to kill Paarthurnax and in this he fulfilled the aim of the Thalmor, their greatest enemies, because he deactivated the Tower. Esbern in fact helped his persecutors so much in getting immortal, because they never could have reached the top of the mountain, because the are not able to use the voice to get through the snow storm behind the cloister of the greybeards.

I tried playing a high elf playthru for the first time and people really don't hate you that much, wood elves who are being purged by elf in mass call you their brother, the Nords kind of don't like you but really everyone else accepts you racially and the Thalmor except you with open arms. Compared to my imperial and argonian playthrus I'm more loved than ever.

Wait, so one of the towers was Optimus Prime?

What if Skyrims tower was in Winterhold when the Great Collapse occurred?

I love these videos. Your commentary always keeps me laughing or face-palming! lol This theory should be the setting of the next game.

#NotAllHighEvlesAreThalmor

*Thalmor destroy final tower* thalmor soldier: YES!!!! WE DID IT!!! wait? Sheogorath: Thanks for helping us win!!!!!! Have some cheese!!!!!!!

Damn the Thalmors are salty af

One thing that keeps me coming back to videos like this? the wrench that could still be thrown into this all if we were to account for the other lands outside tamriel the whole understanding could begin to change

Isn't the main reason for abolishing Talos in the Empire is to provoke and spark a civil war thus Skyrim likely breaking off from the Empire thus making the Empire weaker and easier to defeat?

My theory is that Alduin is the stone of the Snow Tower, and in defeating him your character deactivates it

Daedra can't melt stone beams

I was playing Skyrim while listening to this and I had a sudden realization that Aventus Aretino will be either an assassin or the leader of the dark brotherhood in TES:6 Mark my words people!

This is likely the main story of the next Elder Scrolls or at least one of them. Even Bethesda themselves gave a huge nod to it in Skyrim. When you rescue Esbern from the Thalmor in the ratway. Asking him certain questions about them and Alduin ending the world will result in him saying something like "I suppose even the Thalmor don't want the world to end or at least they would want to do it on their own accord" that is pretty much confirmation of this theory right there for me.

I think the Snow Tower is actually the College of Winterhold, or the college is at least a tower. We don't actually know what catastrophe hit Winterhold, but if the tower was deactivated, then it could be the result. Perhaps the Cave stone it speaks of is related to the Midden beneath the college, or perhaps the Auger of Dunlain plays into it somehow.

if the throat of the world is one of the towers, then the notched pickaxe is its stone

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What if the snow tower is the throat of the world and the stone is the notched pickaxe or paarthurnax?

This makes me wonder if somehow Alduin's appearance is tied to this theory... He isn't quite powerful enough to devour the world in the Fourth Era, but he could have conquered it.

You should do a video specifically looking into the snow tower and go through all the theories on what the cave is.

The Thalmor having conquered Tamriel trying to abolish Talos and deactivate the Adamantine Tower to unmake the world would actually be an awesome plot for an Elder Scrolls VI... It might need to be set in High Rock, though, which was already featured in Daggerfall...

Seems to be the overall plot of the series as a whole. Each game seems to focus around the fall of the towers. Skyrims being the throat of the world, Oblivions being the White Gold and the Amulet, Morrowind being the Red Mountain, in Daggerfall the Brass Tower, bet the 6th game will focus on the Adamant Tower witch would be crazy cool maybe we can actually witness the events of the World Creation.

Would the "power" imbued into Mundus to actually create it be freed as well. Could the Aedra reabsorb their power or maybe just one could to enhance their power beyond anything before? In fact, it could all be a plot by a single Daedra to allow then to gain all that power. I wouldn't be surprised if it was a Daedra manipulating Thalmor leadership to start that event.

Side note: Hammerfell as 6? If you go with the idea of the towers and the Thalmor desire to deactivate them (which also really fits with their attempted conquest of Hammerfell) that could form an interesting plot for a sixth game

If the towers are protecting Mundus from the Oblivion, where the DAEDRA are, then I doubt the Thalmor will get their desired immortality. They would get something very, very HORRIBLE and unforseen.

And this is why I always side with the stormcloaks and go out of my way to slaughter every Thalmor I come across.

i hope the 6th elder scrolls game will involve destroying the thalmor, i hate them

And know i just realised how great "the wheels of lull" reallly is

"Secret plan" *25k views* yep still secret

If I had to guess, I'd say that the snow tower is high hrothgar, and that the stone was the tear in time wherein alduin was sealed. These towers falling is always followed by incredible calamity. Alduin escaped from his prison of time at that moment. Doesnt get much more calamitous. Plus, pretty much the only two other towers unspoken for are within reasonable distance, both of eachother, and of the official setting of tes 6.

The Elder Scrolls 6: Infinity War I’m ready for it.

Maybe since the only confirmed active tower is the Adamantine tower, the main plot of Tes6 is going to be protecting that from the Thalmor.

I think the next ES game will involve Tamriel being 100% ruled by a Thalmor and you have to join a rebel group to stop them from destroying the world

"... Michael Kirk..." *closes video*

FudgeMuppet: mentions the towers Me: YOU ARE ABOUT TO WITNESS THE STRENGTH OF KIRKBRIDE HEADCANON

Wanna know something? I used to think High Elves worship Sheograth in his realm of the summerset isles

The Eye of Magnus seems like a good substitute stone.

TES VI main villain is Thanos confirmed he's collecting all the Tower stones

this is almost exactly like the Dark Tower. The villains are trying to bring down the "spokes" of the wheel of existence, with the center spoke being the dark tower.

Another theory I would LOVE for you guys possibly discuss in a video or at least think about, is the concept of the Shezarrine. elderscrolls.wikia.com/wiki/Shezarrine I like the idea that the DragonBorn is one just like Tiber Septim, Wulfharth, Zurin Arctus or possibly Pelinal Whitestrake. They are all potentially mortal manifestations of Lorkhan and many more are likely out there. ( Explaining why he appears in every culture due to a god not being limited to any one form or place) It's likely (To me at least) that the Dragon Born is not just restricted to being some almighty dragon-slayer but has said abilities and most likely more because he is an Avatar. Just think by end game you are unstoppable like a demi-god. The three things that prove this to me ultimately is 1.You cannot see Shor (Nordic Lorkhan) In Sovengarde because you are his physical form while his other godly power is outside and formless (thus why he can still tell them to stand down) 2. Alduin states this "Do not forget that it was Heaven itself that shed you from me." Meaning essentially "We were both two sides of the same coin." Lorkhan and Akatosh are both inverses (See the similarities?) Alduin is born from Akatosh, You from Lorkhan... 3.Every main character embodies the characteristics of Lorkhan; Freedom, Growth, Conflict, Mortality, Adventuring. Thus I find it likely that the "Missing God" in every game is YOU. Plus you are always in a divine intervention like predicament early on.

The Crystal Tower had a stone. Nocturnal tried to use it in Elder Scrolls Online to take over the Summerset Isles. The stone was bonded to two high elves who were it's keepers.

Soon, very soon, the lines now blurred will be erased. The world shall be remade. The new age shall rise from the ashes of the old. Our vision shall be realized. Weakness will be purged from the world, and beast and man alike purified in the refiner's fire.

It wouldn't surprise me if there was a hist tower in blackarsh we just don't know about because of how mysterious it is

The Thalmor are an Empire of Peace.

My biggest problem with the towers theory is that several of these 'towers' have not always existed since the beginning of time and were built by mortal hands. The Crystal Tower, White-Gold Tower, and Brass Tower being perfect examples. It seems highly unlikely to me that objects built by mortals many centuries or even millennia after the creation and subsequent stabilization of the mortal plane would have anything to do with the stability of that plane.

0:00 WHAT!? No! Really!? I mean... I'm just, shocked... I didn't know that evil pricks in games only want power...

Gonna rant about the Snow Tower for a bit. I think the main thing that's holding everyone up with this tower is when it was created. In my eyes, it was either created with the crowning of the first High King of Skyrim, or with the sealing of Alduin. "When the Snow Tower lies sundered, kingless, bleeding" In the first theory, the Jagged Crown is the stone. We've already seen how royal artifacts can be stones, such as with the Amulet of Kings. In addition, Galmar mentions that the Crown supposedly holds part of the power of each king who wore it, also like the Amulet. The cave that is supposedly the stone could be the burial site that the Crown is found in. The Crown not being in use anymore would be a pretty easy explanation for the line on the wall, since the stone is separate from the tower, there is no king, and Skyrim's at war. I don't think this is likely, but it is possible, and interesting at the very least. I do think Alduin being the stone is much more likely. In every mention of Alduin, he's always described as a world eater. Even in the Dragonborn song, it says he has a hunger to swallow the world. What if the cave that's the stone is representative of his stomach, or his hunger? Or whatever power it is that he uses to devour everything? He could be the "king" in this scenario that left the tower, with the sundering and the bleeding being effects from the time wound. That's all contingent on the last two lines of the prophecy occurring at the same time, which may not be possible. Or the cave could be the time wound itself. Another thing I'll spitball is that the Snow Tower could be fulfilling "holding reality together" simply by keeping Alduin at bay within the time wound. I don't know. I don't think either of these are quite right. If the stone is the Crown, when was the tower made? That'd also make it inactive since 1E, which doesn't sit right. However, Alduin as the stone doesn't line up as well with the prophecy. I can't wait to find out what it actually is, though.

Plot for Elder Scrolls 6 Set in Valenwood and Elsewyre the Thalmor have reignited the war with man by invading hammerfell and destroying their tower triggering thr second great war. The events of Skryim deactivated the throat of the world tower. Reality still exists so that must mean the Thalmor have been unable to destroy the tower in Valenwood where Bosmer resistance fighters have been trying to prevent it, but they're running out of time. The new war has the races of man and beast unite against the thalmor to try and push them back out of Valenwood before they can destroy it. The tower is actually hidden in the moving trees, and only the Bosmer can locate it. When the game takes place the empire, Skyrim and hammerfell forces have invaded Valenwood and mostly pushed the Thalmor out. Not ones to give up when theyre so close though the Thalmor are still operating behind enemy lines to locate the tower. They control most of the vast forests but the roads and cities (now reestablished by the empire) are in control of man. Thats where the player character comes in. He must navigate the second great war and unravel the mystery of the last tower. Inform the empire of the true plan. Finding the stone and thwarting the Thalmor conspiracy to save the world. It all comes to a head when the final stone for the tower is found and destroyed at the very end. The world descends into chaos and reality breaks down. At the very end Talos appears as a representative of the 9 divines who have decided to take pity on mankind. The player character is converted into the new stone, Talos gives up his divinity to you for the sake of humanity so that you become an immortal being and the Thalmor can never achieve their goal. Where Oblivion left the player character as one of the Deadric princes Elder Scrolls VI: Valenwood will leave the PC as a living God, one of the 9 divines. The savior of humanity and unbreakable stone holding reality itself together DLC is busting up a skooma distribution network in Elswyer and running down crackhead cats

The Snow Tower stone might possibly be the Time-Wound at the top of the mountain, as it connected to the Dragon Break. And if it's true, that means the stone has been deactivated when we use it with an Elder Scroll to summon Alduin.

Stormcloaks aren't perfect, but I'd rather them win then let the empire continue this.

I don't know why I haven't checked these lore videos sooner, awesome work

2:28 I hate to contradict but he mastered the principle and power of CHIM, he doesn't need prayer power he is more of a god than the other beings in he story with ease, he also might have mantled another god so he isn't going away at all.

I have also read that the world Thalmor want to return is no longer possible, and have also read that the state they used to be was a prison of it's own and that Lorkhan actually freed all souls by creating Mundus.

Thalmor want to weaken talos to weaken man(talos is the god of war and men)

I just thought of something, could the Silver Hand be at least slightly connected to the Aldmeri Dominion? The Companions are well known across Skyrim and the have the axe Wuuthrad, or Elf Slayer. I'm pretty sure that the Aldmeri Dominion would want that axe gone..

Stormcloaks having skyrim is the way to go. If hammerfall could defend against the thalmor, then so can skyrim and it's nords!

I can see the next ES game Me: Become a High Elf .... save the world ... and watch the face of irony when it comes to the thalmor xD

These Thalmors are so salty

The heavens be thanked for lore nerds like you! The amount of research you must have done to make this video...

I asked you to go to the Green Day concert

I think it would be so neat if you were to do a video about the Eye of Magnus. It is such a neat thing and it's so mysterious. Anyone in the comments have any thoughts?

Elder Scrolls 6 in High Rock, goal is to stop the Thalmor from destroying the Adamantine Tower--I`m calling it right now, if this happens I demand props, if not then this never happened.

Any videos about the college of winterhold? Really curious what they would do in the civil war and in the event of a Thalmor invasion.

If it's suggested that The Throat of the World is a tower what powers it exactly?